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Tank Chats #42 Elefant | The Tank Museum

  • Published on Aug 17, 2017 veröffentlicht
  • Tank Chats playlist • Tank Chats from T... Originally known as the Ferdinand, then later renamed Elefant, 90 of this heavily armed and armoured vehicle were built, seeing service in the Soviet Union, Italy and Germany.
    Although deployed as a tank destroyer, the Elefant had its origins in Ferdinand Porsche’s attempt to build what became the Tiger tank.
    This particular Elefant is part of The Tiger Collection at The Tank Museum, Bovington, on loan from the US Army Ordnance Training and Heritage Center, VA.
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  • Philipp Stetter
    Philipp Stetter 5 years ago +3608

    I'm glad you addressed the Elefant in the room.

    • wobotnik
      wobotnik 12 days ago

      Boom boom.

    • Boris Müller
      Boris Müller 18 days ago


    • Siege Tech Gaming
      Siege Tech Gaming 24 days ago

      How dare you

      PUBHEAD Month ago

      ​@Philipp Stetter the museum should put that in quotes on the information display placard. They would know visitors are actually reading the Information as they would hear the chuckles

    • Philipp Stetter
      Philipp Stetter Month ago +2

      @David Traywick Im glad that my pun from 5 years ago still makes people chuckle today

  • Methylimidazol
    Methylimidazol 5 years ago +811

    German tank engineers: "Let's build more turretless tank destroyers, they are faster and cheaper to produce." Also German tank engineers: "Of course we need three engines in it. What a question."

    • jsplicer9
      jsplicer9 11 months ago

      @French Guitar Guy I think the hulls cost a significant amount of money and manpower to produce in the first place, I think scrapping them to make different vehicles would have been even more of a waste.

    • HighlanderNorth1
      HighlanderNorth1 Year ago

      😏👍 Hey, at least the Germans didn't try anything stupid and counterproductive, like designing a single reliable diesel engine that could power these things with MUCH less problems, breakdowns, etc! In my past life, I was a top mechanical engineer in Germany, and I was the one who encouraged AGAINST developing a reliable, powerful diesel...
      In fact, I recommended they try using 12 interconnected Kettenkrad engines for the Porsche Tiger, Ferdinand, Panther II, Tiger II, and Elefant. But unfortunately I died during testing of the nitroglycerine powered rocket engine I was about to recommend for the Nazis V2 program...... 😭

    • TeTra
      TeTra 2 years ago

      For some reason I've been thinking over this on and off for a while.
      Can someone tell me which tank actually had the better armor
      the Elefant or the King Tiger?

    • Kyle
      Kyle 2 years ago +1

      @Mandernach Luca that was the Panthers biggest problem, it was alright until Hitler slapped on extra armour.

    • polygondwanaland
      polygondwanaland 2 years ago +3

      @Gene Garren OTOH Allied tankers thought every German tank was a Tiger and almost certainly never saw the inside of one. You might see a crew singing a different tune if they had to actually put up with a Tiger's flaws.

  • T. T.
    T. T. 3 years ago +213

    This tank was donated by the Aberdeeen proving grounds tank museum to the tank museum where it is being filmed here. The tank was actually lost in the woods of Aberdeen until a friend of mine, Joe Benson, while in the U.S. ARMY on a map exercise stumbles across THIS very tank in the woods. He notified his Sgt, who notified the 1st Sgt. and so on up the line. 2 days later there were crews with chain saws clearing around the tank to recover it from the woods, recovery took about a year.
    This tank was also featured on the TV series Tank Restoration. It's amazing to think that had Joe not stumbled across this tank it may very well be still lost in the woods of Aberdeen proving grounds.

    • Jack Girote
      Jack Girote 5 months ago

      Well done Joe Benson, where ever you are!

    • Richard Cowling
      Richard Cowling 6 months ago

      @Gruener Teufel Oh, they gave it back to Germany than?

    • Richard Cowling
      Richard Cowling 6 months ago

      @Robert Witt Jr Not that hard to believe when you remember the Americans forget where they parked the T28 prototype.

    • Pedal2Metal
      Pedal2Metal 11 months ago +1

      @Gruener Teufel correct

    • Pedal2Metal
      Pedal2Metal 11 months ago +1

      @Gruener Teufel Exactly.. it was never lost... just out back. I live near there and went there every few yrs from the 70s on up till it closed.

  • Tired Sloth
    Tired Sloth 5 years ago +834

    When you overengineer a vehicle to the point the henschel tiger is the simpler option..

    • MiNeRaLs
      MiNeRaLs 4 months ago

      @Tommy Seabee Not exactly 50,000.49,234…

    • Jan Haanstra
      Jan Haanstra 4 months ago

      @Michael Stark Trolls being people with a different opinion or more knowledge? Difficult, isn't it, getting feedback? Get an education.

    • Jan Haanstra
      Jan Haanstra 4 months ago +1

      @Michael Stark Shermans were reliable, easy to build and available in large numbers. Most German tanks were unreliable (especially the engines), hard and costly to build and not widely available. The fuel problems exacerbated this. The claim that allied aircraft wiped out German tanks is pure propaganda and is long laid to rest as such, right next to the myth that Shermans were just Tommy-cookers.
      Not the best gun wins the war, but the most reliable platform.

    • Charly Spor
      Charly Spor 7 months ago +2

      @Michael Stark never take those kill numbers too seriously. German commanders were known for inflating kill numbers so much
      There are instances of commanders claiming more kills than there were tanks present on the battlefield

    • Paavo Bergmann
      Paavo Bergmann Year ago +3

      @Michael Stark research 2 things, please: a) changing the gearbox on a Pz III; b) changing the gearbox on a Sherman.
      Then, and only then, come back.

  • Canuck_Gamer33
    Canuck_Gamer33 3 years ago +81

    This vehicle was featured on an episode of "Tank Overhaul" where the crew at the U.S. Ordinance Museum team at Aberdeen Proving Ground did a partial restoration. During the process, they discovered what they believed was a disabling shot to one of the front wheels, which likely knocked off the tread. Amazingly, they were able to recover a piece of a round still embedded in the wheel and matched it to an M61 anti tank round. This round was used by the Sherman tank with the 75mm gun as well as the M10 and others. As you can see in various frames of this video, the Aberdeen team did not repair battle damage but rather painted it with a silver paint to highlight those areas. It's a great piece of history and I thank all involved for their work!

    • Ed Pershing
      Ed Pershing 3 months ago

      I was taken on a tour of APG before it closed. That was the day the Elephant was in the paint booth during the restoration. I entered the booth while the staff were eating lunch. The tank was of course disassembled for painting. Seeing the massive size of the wheels, etc. was a thrill. You could clearly see where a shell hit the drive sprocket.

    • Lyndon CMP
      Lyndon CMP Year ago +1

      Hoodoo Texas
      This is probably the same Elephant that Karlheinz Munch details being lost in The Combat History of Schwere Panzerjager Abteilung 653, page 267. This Ferdinand was commanded by Uffz. Werner Kuhl. Kuhls Elephant came to a destroyed bridge and the driver tried to turn the Elephant around but it slid off the road into a ditch. A recovery attempt to toe it with a Tiger I of Schwere Panzer Abteilung 508 was tried but there was too much enemy firing going on so it had to be abandoned. One of the road wheels was shot up while the Germans were trying to recovery it.
      So it was definitely hit while already disabled.

    • Hoodoo Texas
      Hoodoo Texas Year ago +1

      Nice story but just as likely these hits were "is anybody home?" shots taken after the tank was abandoned by the Germans. The M61 was I believe only used in 75mm Shermans and the M10 used the M79 AP shell.

    • D S
      D S Year ago +1

      It’s on youtube. No interior restoration or engine rebuild though. Pitty.

  • The Red Elephant
    The Red Elephant 5 years ago +1694

    "I told mother we saw Panthers, Tigers and Elefants. She thought we were visiting the zoo!"

  • Matt
    Matt 3 years ago +11

    I could seriously listen to David Willey talk about what he ate for breakfast for 3 hours. He's both captivating and methodical in the way he presents these videos. It just works.

    • QqJcrsStbt
      QqJcrsStbt 3 years ago

      Shows that you do not need to add false excitement, distracting music and childish excitement to make a watchable docu. Perhaps it is for adults?

  • Matt C
    Matt C 8 months ago +7

    In 2003 I was a child living on Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, US and this EXACT tank was left next to a railroad track, grey and rusting. It was one of two left in the world. I'm so glad it got restored.

  • Steve Sheppard
    Steve Sheppard 5 years ago +24

    I love seeing battle scars on these tanks. Each one holding its own story. I wish I knew what it had been through.

  • Alexalan
    Alexalan 5 years ago +176

    >Mid Engine - Check
    >Rear Wheel Drive - Check
    >Hybrid Engine - Check
    Its basically a 1940's McLaren P1.

    • DampedFuzzball
      DampedFuzzball 2 years ago +2

      But it's even worse

    • Mitch From The Internet
      Mitch From The Internet 2 years ago +4

      The petrol engine isn’t connected to the drive sprockets, they only charge the battery, so it’s more like a BMW I3 actually.
      The 918 and P1’s engine are connected to the gearbox obviously.

    • R I
      R I 3 years ago +16


  • Daniel Jamison
    Daniel Jamison 5 years ago +4

    David Willey if you're reading this you are an excellent storyteller. I just joined Patreon to support the Tank Museum, and I look forward to your future videos!

  • Beathan Steele
    Beathan Steele 5 years ago +328

    Sometimes youre just having a bad day, sometimesyoure having a hard time getting past certain memories. sometimes you just need a semi soft spoken Englishmen to tell you about tanks

    • Matt W
      Matt W 2 years ago +5

      it's just the perfect accent for any kind of documentary

    • Thomas Hambly
      Thomas Hambly 2 years ago +4

      @Klobi for President I think that would be a bad day in 1945

    • Osiris1992
      Osiris1992 3 years ago +8

      I hope you're doing better these days mate :)

    • Klobi for President
      Klobi for President 4 years ago +9

      "Sometimes you're having a bad day. Sometimes you see this thing rolling up."

  • Voima-Vahtila
    Voima-Vahtila 5 years ago +42

    Only germans can think of the Henshel tiger as being simple and easier to product.

  • fw1421
    fw1421 5 years ago +222

    It’s too bad the Aberdeen restoration crew only stripped the exterior and gave it a new paint job. The interior has really deteriorated from being on outside display for so long. These are historical artifacts and should be taken better care of.

    • Richard Cowling
      Richard Cowling 6 months ago

      Some of these old tanks actually had significant amounts of asbestos inside them, not that easy to work on the insides.

    • CalzerDan
      CalzerDan 2 years ago

      Jim Goose Yeah, it's basically a hybrid tank with the only good thing to say about it being that it's a hybrid tank, and therefore ecologically conscious.

    • CalzerDan
      CalzerDan 2 years ago

      Jim Goose That was a joke to some extent.

    • CalzerDan
      CalzerDan 2 years ago

      @Bochi42 An outdated and ineffective one that only proves the Nazis were ecologically conscious and little else.

    • Bochi42
      Bochi42 2 years ago

      @CalzerDan Judging by the first attempt to audit the DoD enough could've been diverted to better restore it and nobody would know until 2025 or so. ; ) But seriously I do get your point and I'm going to assume there was quite the bias against spending money on and risking glorifying Nazi weapons in the Army for a long time after WW2.
      Hell it's 75 years on the dot since VE Day and we've still got neo-nazi punks around. Makes me sad to think about it.
      We can separate an interest in the equipment and history of it and hate the ideology but at the same time I can see why nobody in the US Army saw any purpose in preserving a nazi weapon that was in most respects an abysmal failure with nothing to be learned from except what not to do.

    BMG AUTOMOTIVE 7 months ago +4

    This is soooo good. So interesting. Love this history. Rest in peace all who fought.

  • Pete N
    Pete N Month ago +1

    This guy is very good. Factual, descriptive and interesting. Well done tank museum Bovington.

  • Atheist Orphan
    Atheist Orphan 5 years ago +3

    I was lucky enough to visit the museum in May. The Tiger exhibition is very impressive. Highly recommended!

  • Lyndon CMP
    Lyndon CMP Year ago +1

    Good example of something that was going to waste being turned into something very successful. Post Kursk the Ferdinands proved highly effective tank destroyers in the defensive warfare of late 1943 and through 1944, with many still being around at the end of 1944.
    The Combat History of Schwere Panzerjager Abteilung 653 by Karlheinz Munch is an excellent work, and an eye opener to those who think the Ferdinand was a dud. It certainly wasn't. It had a long successful combat life and was well liked by it's crews.

  • Mat Speedle
    Mat Speedle 5 years ago +3

    My grandfather was at the Anzio Landings, I wish he was still here to tell me more about what he did. I know he lost many friends there though, he would have loved to have seen this tank, he may well have seen it the day it was captured! Great Tank chat! Thanks David!

  • renster143
    renster143 Year ago +3

    This vehicle is now at fort lee VA on display very fortunate to see it in person. Always awesome to see old German technology in person

  • Paul Aslaksen
    Paul Aslaksen Year ago +4

    I saw this tank “in the flesh” at the Aberdeen Ordnance Museum in the early 1980’s. Very impressive vehicle. At that time, they also had a Tiger 1, King Tiger and JagdTiger on display.
    I would not have wanted to be an Allied infantryman and see any of these tanks coming towards me. I have an incredible amount of respect for those troopers.

  • Durin S. Bane
    Durin S. Bane 2 years ago +73

    Caveman Henschel "I have invented the wheel!"
    Caveman Porsche "Too simple, I don't like it"

    • Simon z Prahy
      Simon z Prahy 2 years ago +19

      Caveman Porsche: "It needs a petrol-electric engine"

  • Gotham Goon
    Gotham Goon 5 years ago +59

    The photo of the burning ferdinand at 14.58 wasn't knocked out. The engines overheated, caught fire and burned the tank out.

    • Harry Balzak
      Harry Balzak 5 years ago +18

      Disabling itself is worse than being knocked out by the enemy, IMO.

    • Invincible
      Invincible 5 years ago +3

      Joshua Ngau Ajang yes, as the tank will be either immobilized or on fire, both of which will cause the crew to evacuate and the vehicle to be disabled or destroyed

    • Invincible
      Invincible 5 years ago +10

      roger Rumble thus, knocking it out.

  • Panzer Raven
    Panzer Raven 5 years ago +76

    I spoke to a gunner of a Elefant in 1979 He served in Italy in 1943/44. He told me he got hit 16 times in one day. And it only got minor damage from it accept for the gun, they lost a track when they had to withdraw. They blew it up and surrendered to Italian partisans in 1944

    • Roy Chow
      Roy Chow Year ago

      @aaron schut No that was by Soviet AT guns and AT rifles

    • motorrebell
      motorrebell Year ago +4

      @Love of Mangos Dont forget that Mussolini led Hitler into Africa and Greece !

    • Q Ball
      Q Ball 3 years ago +4

      @Galf506 Agreed on all points. By 1943 it was obviously over, why keep dying and have your cities blasted with no chance of winning? Would have been a pointless waste.

  • Niinsa62
    Niinsa62 Year ago +6

    First saw this as a plastic model in a hobby shop when I was like 13 years old, a long time ago.I immediately bought and built it. No longer have it, but I still think this is some kind of steam punk super tank. It was just so overcomplicated and unreliable. Could have been totally fab, with that monster of a gun.

  • Paul Holloway
    Paul Holloway Year ago +5

    Love these chats .Wonderful museum.

  • CDR 80
    CDR 80 2 months ago

    One of my favourite tanks in rts and simulation games. Used it always as a huge sniper rifle surrounded and protected from infantery to pick of enemy tanks.

  • DB
    DB Month ago

    I saw this tank at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds. It was stored outside in the elements, and was in rough shape.
    I'm glad it has been restored and is being treated with more care.

  • B McG
    B McG Year ago

    OMG this would be my ultimate job for anyone who is interested in Warfare. And the technology difference from the first tank, to the ultra modern weapons today! What a beast of a tank. I’d never tire of looking at these vehicles.

  • TheFreaker86
    TheFreaker86 5 years ago +1

    David Willeys and David Fletchers knowledge is amazing. I hope to get to Bovington not too far in the future to meet one of them or even both.

  • Michael Emberley
    Michael Emberley 5 years ago +3

    Excellent! I really enjoyed this longer, more detailed Tank Chat. I usually find them to be far too short and this was a nice change. Keep up the good work.

  • Daniel Boone
    Daniel Boone 2 years ago +1

    Thanks for the work you put into these videos. I love this channel

  • Anton Leimbach
    Anton Leimbach Month ago

    Ferdinand Porsche was one of the best secret weapons the Allies had during the war. The amount of chaos he inflicted on Germanys armored divisions deserved a medal.

  • Marek Dohojda
    Marek Dohojda 4 years ago +14

    The statement that Germans chose Tiger because it was LESS complicated than this thing, is pretty much all one ever has to know.

    • Lyndon CMP
      Lyndon CMP Year ago +3

      But the Tigers performed well overall and had an operational average not much different to the Panzer IV.

  • Bobby Robert
    Bobby Robert 4 months ago

    I love your stuff. I suggest instead of the museum having white walls make the back ground like the terrain it fought in.

  • TheThirdMan
    TheThirdMan 5 years ago +74

    These things were terribly difficult to move around. Given the reliability problems, it placed even greater requirements on transport infrastructure. Its enormous weight meant that it was restricted in where it could go (that even applied to the KV-1, which was about 20 tonnes lighter). When it broke down, it required _five_ Mk IV Bergepanzers to rescue it. The whole point is that on paper, it looked good with a massive gun and very thick armour but that's of no value if you can't bring it to bear on the battlefield. I agree: it was something of a failure, even at Kursk.

    • TheThirdMan
      TheThirdMan 4 months ago +1

      @DavidtheNorseman The Panzer IV was intended to be the backbone of the German army tank arm but at Kursk it was actually the StuG III. The generals had been asking for a replacement for both for a number of years but instead got the Tiger and the Panther, which impressed senior Nazis but were of only limited use. They were never available in the numbers the army needed and were nowhere near as mobile, as you say.

    • DavidtheNorseman
      DavidtheNorseman 4 months ago

      @TheThirdMan Thanks! Yes, in part my understanding is that the German training was a large part of their success including figuring out just how to use their equipment to maximum effect. I'm used to it more from air power but the idea is the same. Interesting story of how Charles Lindberg showed the P38 pilots how to get more out of their equipment. Wasn't the Panther IV considerably more mobile than the Elefant? ...and just a tad more reliable? :-) Cheers!

    • TheThirdMan
      TheThirdMan 4 months ago +1

      @DavidtheNorseman Search for “Jagdpanther Tactics”. Admittedly, much of it is specific to the Jagdpanther but he does mention the Jagdpanther IV in the same context.

    • TheThirdMan
      TheThirdMan 4 months ago +1

      @DavidtheNorseman There is a video on how tank destroyers were used. I think it’s on Military History Visualized. Basically, tank destroyers were protected by other tanks and artillery and were not normally allowed to advance. I expect there was infantry protection too because, as you say, you can’t have one without the other in a major action anymore. The Germermans had quite strict rules about their use. They certainly weren’t given a wide ranging remit for just blundering around, knocking off Soviet tanks. To be honest, I don’t think too many people understand this. Not saying you don’t but if you can find that video, I think you’d find it interesting.

    • DavidtheNorseman
      DavidtheNorseman 4 months ago

      @TheThirdMan True, but even in the role of a tank destroyer it would need significant infantry support to protect it from enemy infantry, IMHO. It simply isn't fast enough to strike quickly then get out quickly. So in a defensive role where it waited then took out a bunch of enemy tanks it would still need infantry protection, I think. Beautiful looking machine and a fearsome cannon but as the presenter said, even the crews were begging for some time to figure out how to maximize use.

  • Pineaple Dracula
    Pineaple Dracula 5 years ago +323

    When germans had hybrid tanks with eco drive in ww2 😂😂😂😂

    • Kyle
      Kyle 2 years ago +3

      This kind of hybrid, like modern self charging hybrid is stupid from environmental point of view. Your still burning petrol but your doing it far less efficiently.

    • Car Sickness
      Car Sickness 2 years ago

      @MonsieurCorbusier I too am joking comrade.

    • FGP 003
      FGP 003 2 years ago +2

      @Mike K Heh, not point in arguing with you then

    • Mike K
      Mike K 2 years ago

      Sucklord 2448 no...its not

  • Halinspark
    Halinspark 5 years ago +345

    Most of what I took from this is that Porche shouldn't design tanks.

    • billigerfusel
      billigerfusel 13 days ago

      Excuse me, gentlemen, may I interest you in a petrol electric drive?

    • Bruce Lamberton
      Bruce Lamberton 5 months ago

      @ChickyChickyParmParm are you on drugs???

    • Bruce Lamberton
      Bruce Lamberton 5 months ago

      Or SUVs - stick with sports cars!

    • Rex Karrs
      Rex Karrs Year ago

      @DaGleese Austrian homeboys. Might've been from the same town.

    • Essess Nine
      Essess Nine 2 years ago +3

      @ricardo soto Porsche did design cars, such as most German light transports (namely, the Kübelwagen and Schwimmwagen) and the consumer Volkswagen.

  • Andre Herrmann
    Andre Herrmann 5 years ago +2

    Thank you very much for the very detailed and extended tank chat!

  • Chris Derochwr
    Chris Derochwr 4 years ago

    Saw this tank a few times over the years when it was at the APG Ordnance Museum. It was kept outside, so when I saw it as a kid it was a rusty, faded mess. Nevertheless, it was awesome and was one of my favorites. I took my own kids there years later just before they closed the museum and the old girl was back, newly restored, just the way she looks now. It is nice to see her out of storage and getting the attention she deserves.

  • Terrados1337
    Terrados1337 5 years ago

    This was amazingly detailed! Thank you so much for this Tank Chats series!

  • Trilobiteer
    Trilobiteer 5 years ago

    One of the best tank chats yet, great information and delivery, keep up the good work!

  • F. W. Sauerteig
    F. W. Sauerteig 5 years ago +6

    The Ferdinand/Elefant had a kill ratio of about 13.5 to 1. I believe this is the highest of any afv in the war.

    • Here Comes That Boy
      Here Comes That Boy 4 years ago

      yeah but at 90 tanks that's only 1,215 tanks (which is nothing compared to the amount the allies made)if every Ferdinand got 13.5 kills, and in reality most of those 90 didn't contribute either to tank kills or losses as they broke down before reaching the action.

  • Francisco Ramon Clerigues Rovira

    Me encanta vuestro canal y trabajo. Gracias por compartir…

  • STUthebomb
    STUthebomb 5 years ago +1

    I love this videos! So glad the Tank Museum does these

  • Kaz
    Kaz 5 years ago

    Awesome! I would love to see some 30+ min videos going further in depth with some of yalls collection. This one was the best to date

  • Budahbaba
    Budahbaba 2 years ago

    This is my favorite tank channel. The presentations here are so much more educational than the sensationalism offered on History Channel documentaries.

  • Marius Konrad
    Marius Konrad 2 years ago

    My Grandfather was driver of the recovery vehicle pulling the last Ferdinand out of italy. Actulay, i found a picture of him in a book about the unit 653. Tank You for this Video!

  • Cameron Boyce
    Cameron Boyce 5 years ago +7

    If you have a chance to go to the Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Grounds it is worth it. They have the very rare Pz IV hydro.

    • Roy Chow
      Roy Chow Year ago

      The "Mile of Tanks" at APG was moved in 2011. Nothing much there any longer.

  • Sharper
    Sharper 2 months ago

    VK 3601P is one of my favorite tanks in War Thunder. It was really hard to get it back then.

  • BrunoGunn
    BrunoGunn 5 years ago

    I was able to see this Ferdinand while it was at Aberdeen, it is very impressive in person.

  • Dave66
    Dave66 4 years ago

    A German infantryman (Gunter Koschorrek) describes these vehicles in action at the Nikopol bridgehead in his book Blood Red Snow. They were destroying T-34 tanks at extreme ranges.

  • Sawyer AWR
    Sawyer AWR 5 years ago +1

    My understanding was that a large part of the Elefant/Ferdinand's reputation of being let down by the lack of an MG was due to the units it was issued to: one was a former StuG unit and tended to keep the vehicles back, waiting in ambush, or at least not at the leading edge of the assault. the second was a former Panzerjeager unit...they literally went from 37mm AT guns strapped to the backs of trucks to these. As one might expect, this unit drove around like they were invincible, and paid for it.

  • Tony Maiullo
    Tony Maiullo 5 years ago

    The Tank Chats presentations are interesting and informative. Thanks for posting !!

  • TEGC Tom
    TEGC Tom 5 years ago +33

    I really hope that the Elefant is kept here instead of rotting outside in the US again

    • Doug Browne
      Doug Browne 9 months ago +2

      This vehicle, along with just about all in the US, will be stored inside from now on. They are at the Ft. Benning (soon to get a new "woke" name) Armor school.

    • Darren O'Connor
      Darren O'Connor 3 years ago +7

      He says it's on loan, not donated. Sure enough, it was returned to the US in 2019. Given that the US army restored it, I don't think there's any interest in letting it rot.

  • Tim Smith
    Tim Smith Year ago

    I got to see and crawl on this very tank in 2010 while it was parked along the railroad tracks with a long line of other tanks at Ft Lee, VA. My (then) wife was not thrilled that I spent an hour there taking so many pictures during our honeymoon. (She had gone to either basic training or AIT there so it was her idea to visit. I just happened to benefit more from that leg of the trip.)

  • richaur87
    richaur87 Year ago +1

    Yet another very interesting tank chat! However, I have a question concerning the crew. Since the Schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung 653 was formed out of the 197th Sturmgeschütz battalion, were the crews of the Ferdinand considered as tank crews (pink piping) or artillery crews (red piping)?

  • Chris Hiss
    Chris Hiss 5 years ago

    So awesome! Thanks! I was hoping someone would photograph the inside of it at some point!

  • Snowball042
    Snowball042 4 years ago

    Just checked and this is the vehicle that was on display here in the US at Aberdeen Maryland. Good to see it isn’t rusting outside anymore. I saw it quite a few times in the 80’s.

  • Royeaux
    Royeaux 5 years ago +2

    I've always wondered what happened to that single Tiger (P) command tank that was sent to the Eastern Front.

  • Taladar2003
    Taladar2003 5 years ago +114

    So back in the 1940s hybrids were very heavy, unreliable and had a horrible mileage? :-)

    • Kyle
      Kyle 2 years ago +2

      @N T *gallons per mile

    • N T
      N T 3 years ago +5

      All About smiles per gallon

    • French Guitar Guy
      French Guitar Guy 4 years ago

      Also the elephant couldn’t go up a hill without exploding its gearbox

    • ZB6 uk
      ZB6 uk 5 years ago +33

      Still better than a prius ☺

    • Antoliance
      Antoliance 5 years ago +15

      Yes but also alot more fun :D

  • TR LaValley
    TR LaValley 4 years ago

    As an ex Tanker myself, (M60) it seems like an almost perfect Tankers Nightmare. Cramped, over complex, not able to defend itself against earth pigs. (Oops) but the thing that really got me was those torsion bars, did anyone at Porche give a moments thought to field maintenance, or the fact this thing was supposed to be out in the dirt, probably getting shot at!. Thanks so much for the Series Dave; they are Magnificent machines. Fortunately I crewed my beast in the 80s and never fired a shot in anger.

  • StryderK
    StryderK 2 years ago

    I thought there was only one surviving elephant...Then looking at the drive sprocket ring...I realize this is the one that belonged to Aberdeen Proving Ground but like the Sturmtiger there, which is now on loan to the Germans and displayed at the Deutches Panzermuseum in Munster, this was shipped to Britain to be displayed.

  • Davey Chainz
    Davey Chainz 3 years ago

    When I started doing research on the Battle of Kursk I only read about Ferdinands. When I saw pics of it, it became one of my favorites.

  • the leveller
    the leveller 5 years ago

    the ferdinand had excellent opticics and firepower, really was a true tank destroyer from extreme range. downfall was the weight which according to accounts ive read, after a great performance from the ferds, they were scuttled as they couldnt mechanically make a fast retreat because of conditions and the retreating nature of the operating theatre of the time they were introduced.

  • Charles Flint
    Charles Flint 2 years ago

    Very interesting as always. It would be good to see the interior of this tank restored.

  • rooty tooty point and shooty exquisite

    That moment when you tell your freinds that you have a porsche and you roll up in this

    • polygondwanaland
      polygondwanaland 2 years ago

      A hybrid electric Porsche no less!

    • John Smith
      John Smith 2 years ago +1

      Keniso S. Well, it's wartime. Countries all over the world stopped car production in favor of war industry. Ford, General Motors, and Chrysler all made tanks for the U.S. during World War Two. It's not that they didn't know what they were doing. It's that they wanted to help win the war. Besides, at that point, the Porsche car company didn't even really exist. Sure, he created the original Volkswagen Beetle, but the Porsche we know didn't exist until the 50s.

    • Pine Cone
      Pine Cone 3 years ago +24

      This thing would be a thousand times more impressive than an overpriced sports car

    • Anton Chigurh
      Anton Chigurh 3 years ago +2

      Porsche built tractors in the 1960's

    • Colin Joyce
      Colin Joyce 3 years ago +41

      Bold of u to assume you’ll make it to ur friends house

  • Red Horse
    Red Horse 5 years ago

    I remember seeing this very tank when I was just a kid and we were stationed at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in the late 70s. That was long before they did this mild restoration and it was just sitting outside with the numerous other vehicles at the museum.

  • Trey Cookus
    Trey Cookus 5 years ago +3

    That particular tank behind you was indeed restored post war, there is a hole by the track which killed the tank

  • Robert Ascii
    Robert Ascii 3 years ago

    I really-really like this whole series. Thank you very much!

  • J van B
    J van B 5 years ago

    Nice long chat, love to hear about the history of these tanks\gun platforms

  • ZBARK31
    ZBARK31 Year ago +1

    Why did they make it so much more complicated than it needed to be it’s actually funny

  • Ståle Mahoney
    Ståle Mahoney 5 years ago +5

    man we can be glad this day that porsche really wanted electric drive, can you imagine if these things where more reliable and did not need work done to them and they could stay at the front lines continuously operating, things could have turned out very differently then...

  • Steven Thompson
    Steven Thompson 2 years ago

    I visited Aberdeen museum a few times in early 2000s but their elefant wasn't on display I think it was getting work done on it, I'd love to see it when it comes back to the states

  • monkey55500
    monkey55500 4 years ago

    loving your chats on the german tanks..i deffo want to come down and go see them for real next year :)

  • KingPoopybuttHitler
    KingPoopybuttHitler 5 years ago

    I want to see this tank run someday. I wonder if there's any of those repair kits out there.

  • Matt's Kaustic Komments

    This Elefant’s cosmetic resto is featured in History Channel doc. I still have the Tamiya model from the 80’s that is based on this very tank. Always thought it so unique & cool looking

  • Henrik H
    Henrik H 2 years ago

    Nice detail to mention that the Tiger I turret actual came from the Porche design. Next it could had been fun to mention that the turret designed for the Tiger I chassis actual was used on the Panter tank. Just a funny detail.

  • Gunter G
    Gunter G 5 years ago +23

    Seeing the inside of the tank made me heart sink

    • vtr0104
      vtr0104 Year ago

      Yeah, as I understand, this was left outside in a forest so the corrosion damage on the inside is pretty horrible :( ...

  • Gunner Time
    Gunner Time 5 years ago

    Great video as usual...always one of my favourites the ferdinand!

  • Krampus
    Krampus 5 years ago

    More German heavies and TD stories please!

    CAL OGDEN 4 years ago

    But the "Ferdinand" self propelled gun was really something. We really feared that beast. Because in terms of the power of that artillery piece it far outmatched us, we just could not reach them. Kalinenok Marat Alexandrovich

  • chelseachelseaboy
    chelseachelseaboy 2 years ago

    I love these tank chats... excellent.

  • Raphael Protti
    Raphael Protti 3 years ago

    Brilliant presentation. This is a man who knows his panzers.

  • Techpriest
    Techpriest 5 years ago +26

    Pretty good use of unused hulls. Objectively speaking it is a pretty good vehicle. Assault gun/tank destroyer role was fulfilled. A++ in that department. Problem was the German logistics and supply that were overstreched as always. Happens when you fight on 3-4 fronts. As for reliabilty issues...why do people act like tanks did not require daily if not hourly maintainance regardless of the nation? German reliability became a meme more than a statistic. War machines go through enormous amount of strain. Even jets and tanks of today have very short run time before next check up and repair. Even more so because of the high-end electronics and other systems that are very fragile.

    • julemanden uden gaver
      julemanden uden gaver 3 years ago

      The Germans didnt made enough spare parts to the tanks.. the factorys where pushed to make panzers so no really roam for the parts

    • Black Acid Gaming
      Black Acid Gaming 4 years ago +5

      this tank couldnt drive up a hill to get too a firing position lol

    • Daniel
      Daniel 4 years ago +5


    • Bazgoth Ar
      Bazgoth Ar 4 years ago

      Could still knock out enemy tanks very successfully.

  • Steve 131
    Steve 131 2 years ago

    Great chat , glad had the chance to see Elefant before it went back to the States .Shame Bovington couldn't keep it.

  • Haman Karn Gundam fan

    I guess one good thing from all these crazy variants is people who make models and put them together will have large collection of German vehicles lol

  • Frenda
    Frenda 4 years ago +1

    This is super informative. I am loving these videos, you got a new subscriber!
    The Elefant is the "super unit" from the Defensive Doctrine of the Germans in Company of Heroes. It's one of the slowest units and takes a good five minutes to get it to the front line, but when I go into Rapid Firing mode it can snipe enemy tanks in one shot. I prefer my Jagdpanzer IV though :)
    Thank you for the videos, I would love to visit this museum in my lifetime.

    • Frenchy’s Philosophy
      Frenchy’s Philosophy 2 months ago

      Company of heroes is such a great game, though I love the King Tiger the most, and videos like these make the experience of playing while knowing your history all the more rewarding.

  • B. O.
    B. O. 2 years ago

    When I saw this in ‘94 it was painted white and like most of the collection rusting badly. Good to see it’s been looked after better since then.

  • Joseph Glatz
    Joseph Glatz 2 years ago

    And then they looked at all the problems in the design, and said to themselves "what if we make all these problems way worse?" And then they made the Jagdtiger.

  • Bochi42
    Bochi42 2 years ago +3

    I really like the Ferdinand/Elephant in a way. The same way I like the Grant/Lee because they are just interesting expedients. Only thing I can say in the Elephant's defense is once they'd built the 90 hulls it only made sense to put them to some use.
    I do wonder if they'd gone lighter on the armor and even just put the 88L56 on it would they have been more reliable? Or was the whole drive system just so bad that they'd have had the same problems?

    • Lyndon CMP
      Lyndon CMP Year ago +1

      And they did well overall. Took a heavy toll of Soviet armour in the defensive fighting of late 1943 and through 1944. Many were still left by the end of 1944. It had a long and successful combat life.

  • SaraBear
    SaraBear 4 years ago +1

    Odd Story: We have a closeout/bargain outlet store here in the US called Ollies, it normally gets in shipments of liquidated or damaged goods that people are willing to get at reduced prices such as a shipment of DVD/blu-rays with damaged cases but perfectly good discs or foods that companies stop carrying but are still in date.
    One day i decide to stop in just to see whats new and in the toy section i find a bunch of model prepainted, preassembled model tanks in crystal display cases. All of them are for whatever reason are 1/72 scale Elefants, specifically Elefant 102 which was captured in Italy in '44 by the americans. Bought the little guy for $10.

  • wannahuckaloogy5
    wannahuckaloogy5 5 days ago

    In the series War Factories it is said the Germans could have had 1800 panzer 4's but switched production for only 90 elefants instead

  • solinvictus39
    solinvictus39 3 years ago

    In the 1990s I saw this exact vehicle at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds. I have a picture beside it... hard to believe it has been refurbished and is across the pond now!

  • 1joshjosh1
    1joshjosh1 5 years ago

    This guy is truly amazing in his knowledge

  • FD Mackey
    FD Mackey 5 years ago

    Having seen the TV episode that covered the (for lack of a better term) rehabilitation, at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, of the vehicle featured in this video from a "toasty" static display to one that looked, externally at least like it did in it's prime, I have long wondered what happened to it after the Ordinance Museum was moved to Ft. Lee, Virginia. I was sorely disappointed, upon moving to Aberdeen, Maryland to discover that the museum was being moved (much of it had already been relocated by the time I arrived in town in late July 2012). That the vehicle is no longer displayed outdoors is a major plus for it's survival. I would love to see the interior of the old girl refurbished at some point and the vehicle itself made drivable again though I realize that the cost would huge and most likely prohibitive. Excellent video as usual!

  • hl6306
    hl6306 5 years ago +6

    A classic porsche with mid-engine, offroad capacity like canyenne, and some scratches on the driverside windshield, i wonder how long it will stay at a local dealer

  • Tapajara
    Tapajara 4 years ago

    As expected, Posche was making the "luxury" version of the Tiger.

  • mavmanish
    mavmanish 3 years ago

    In Blood Red Snow it is said that the German infantrymen where amazed with how effective the vehicle was! It was stated that the Soviets were operating in the open thinking they were safely out of range but Mr. Ferdinand had something to say about that.

  • Maciej K
    Maciej K 2 years ago +1

    During the Battle of Kursk many tank crews reported that their tanks' engines were overheating and finally they lit up and the crews abandoned them before seeing any fight.