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    Have you ever wondered why Disney World is located where it is? Or how it came to be such a massive, self-contained universe? Itโ€™s a story that involves secret land deals, special districts, and, now, a corporation and a government locked in a feud.
    The story of why Disney World is in Florida marries business and governmental concerns about the creation of the massive property. The engineering ranges from unique physical construction (like the creation of a lake) to unique legal construction (like the creation of a self-running government that could even build its own sewer system).
    Further Reading:
    Buying Disneyโ€™s World (www.amazon.com/Buying-Disneys...) by Aaron H. Goldberg is an authoritative work about the purchase of Disney. Drawing from corporate records, internal histories, and more, itโ€™s a comprehensive narrative about Disney Worldโ€™s creation and early years.
    There are a lot of great Disney fan websites out there that are obsessive in their Disney coverage. I found Jim Hillโ€™s history of Reedy Creek to be a good intro to the topic. (jimhillmedia.com/history-reed...)
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  • Vox
    Vox  3 months ago +1080

    Before deciding that year-round warm weather was a requirement, Disney considered two other East Coast locations: New Jerseyโ€™s Meadlowlands and a site near Washington DC.
    Thanks for watching!
    -Phil

    • ilovecats
      ilovecats 3 months ago +91

      Thank god they didnโ€™t choose the meadowlands. That wouldโ€™ve absolutely ruined the calming chemical wasteland aesthetic taking the train into the city

    • Tony Bourdain
      Tony Bourdain 3 months ago +4

      What information do you have about Disney considering West Haven, CT. Former site of Savin Rock amusement?
      Always heard growing up here that it was a possibility

    • Reggie VS Solace
      Reggie VS Solace 3 months ago +6

      The National Harbor Site was the proposed DC location. A small portion of the site is still undeveloped where the east coast Disney location was allotted.

    • CoolBoss999
      CoolBoss999 3 months ago +20

      Woah. Disney wanted to do it in NJ? That would have been really interesting

    • TheFatChicck
      TheFatChicck 3 months ago +8

      too bad he didn't factor in how climate change would make Disneyland part of the Atlantis district due to rising oceans :/

  • WDSimp
    WDSimp 3 months ago +1497

    I wonder how Epcot would look today if they had continued making it a futuristic city as opposed to a part of the theme park.

    • nath1303
      nath1303 3 months ago +68

      Have urban planners of today looked at the Epcot plans and judged it on its merits? I wonder how good the Epcot plans actually are given todays problems with car dependency and urban sprawl.

    • The Other OhlourdesPadua
      The Other OhlourdesPadua 3 months ago +55

      Depends in the economy. Despite the rhetoric, EPCOT is for all intents and purposes a massive company town owned and operated by Disney. He said it in the presentation film: nobody without a job with Disney can live there, and nobody own anything in there. Given Disney's seesaw of luck post Walt Disney, I doubt it will last long...

    • 1P_CONFIG
      1P_CONFIG 3 months ago +10

      @WDSimp watch the movie tomorrowland starring george clooney. I feel that is what they were going for

    • Hermosa Flor ๐ŸŒน
      Hermosa Flor ๐ŸŒน 3 months ago

      @1P_CONFIG is that what Disney what trying to build a futuristic city??

    • Tachie Billano
      Tachie Billano 3 months ago +11

      That's easy to answer. One word: Singapore. It would be like Singapore.

  • MustyMouse Stream Archive
    MustyMouse Stream Archive 3 months ago +2530

    It's almost comical that Florida has no idea how much they need Disney. Classic Florida-man right there

    • Ctasker5
      Ctasker5 3 months ago +98

      Yeah, but Disney isn't going anywhere from Florida. There may be short term consequences for DeSantis and maybe lack of expansion from Disney in Florida, but Disney would ultimately allow the state to do whatever it wants to it because of how deeply established it is in Florida currently.

    • MustyMouse Stream Archive
      MustyMouse Stream Archive 3 months ago +231

      @Ctasker5 I would actually say the exact opposite. Florida is going to let Disney do whatever they want (as is evidenced by this video) but may put on a strong face to appease certain voters.

    • Mfizzle
      Mfizzle 3 months ago +20

      @MustyMouse Stream Archive yeah they 100 percent know lol, as u said itโ€™s just politics nothing drastic gonna happen

    • Craigape
      Craigape 3 months ago +65

      Florida has the #4 highest GDP of all states. It has a GDP of well over $1 trillion. It's hard to measure the impact exactly, but studies have shown Disney World contributes up to $80 billion to Florida's economy annually (many say it is far lower, around $18 billion, but they probably don't account for tourism quite as well). That's a sizable amount of money, it's likely somewhere between 5-8% if you're being generous, but if you actually look at the numbers losing that money wouldn't even drop Florida down to #5 highest GDP.
      Disney helps, but Florida definitely doesn't need it like you claim. That's simply untrue.

  • Benjamin the Tortoise
    Benjamin the Tortoise 3 months ago +1758

    Interesting... I'm a native Floridian and local to the area, and I wasn't entirely clear on the politics involved that were highlighted in recent headlines. I also didn't truly realize just how flippin large the land was!! (Us locals avoid that area as much as we can... Far too much traffic) ๐Ÿ˜„ Great video, thanks!! ๐Ÿ’•

    • Eron
      Eron 3 months ago +34

      Traffic in Disney World is so manageable that I use it to avoid traffic elsewhere (I-4, 192, etc) on my commute home frome work

    • Tiger Abraham
      Tiger Abraham 3 months ago +5

      Why did it rain every day in Disney world?

    • Randy Smith
      Randy Smith 3 months ago +37

      @Tiger Abraham because thatโ€™s what happens in Florida during the summer.

    • TheFatChicck
      TheFatChicck 3 months ago +32

      too much traffic? then they SHOULD invest in public transportation. in the Anaheim park, the monorail is essentially a concept that most developed European and Asian countries made into high-speed rails.
      then again, America was duped into buying cars because the auto industry lobbied for dominance in the name of profit (and oppressinng marginalized communities for being poor and/or black. thaaaaat's hypercapitalism :/

  • Nick Byrd, Ph.D.
    Nick Byrd, Ph.D. 3 months ago +3513

    Is it weird that the conservative dream of a privately owned city with minimal government may be ended by people who call themselves conservative?

    • Prypiat Shadow
      Prypiat Shadow 3 months ago +84

      Thats not a conservative dream. I dont know what rock your living under.

    • Christopher Smith
      Christopher Smith 3 months ago +273

      @Prypiat Shadow It's definitely a libertarian or at least neoliberal dream...so conservative adjacent. Also, in the context you were using the word, it's "you're" not "your."

  • Rig- Zag
    Rig- Zag 3 months ago +373

    You missed one big thing- Walt Disney originally wanted Disney World to be in Daytona Beach. However the city voted it down, as it wasn't wholesome enough, which is hilarious given what Daytona would become synonymous with.

    • Rakeem Koroma
      Rakeem Koroma 3 months ago +13

      what is daytona synonymous with ?

    • Michael Lee
      Michael Lee 3 months ago +68

      โ€‹@Rakeem KoromaSpring Break

    • JustARegularRhino
      JustARegularRhino 3 months ago +21

      more specifically spring break for college and highschool students.

    • Rebirth Phoenix
      Rebirth Phoenix 3 months ago +15

      Thatโ€™s sad since I consider going to Daytona once a year so having Disney World right in the city wouldโ€™ve been really really good. Oh well itโ€™s just gonna be synonymous with goofball college kids and NASCAR.

    • Chad Leach
      Chad Leach 3 months ago +1

      Lgbt?

  • Peachywink
    Peachywink 3 months ago +132

    My momโ€™s family moved to Orlando in 1959 and my parents still live there. It feels like he is spitting on town history. Disney World is something generations of my family are proud of, they remember it being built my mom was employed there as a teen in the 60s and drove the monorail, myself, and my cousins worked summer jobs. My uncle was a full-time employee. I just want him to leave Orange county out of his simple bumpkin soundbite seeking mind. People like Disney more than politicians, and he needs to get over it.

  • Casually Stalled
    Casually Stalled 3 months ago +728

    Central Florida wouldn't be what it is today without Disney

    • DJ Gamera
      DJ Gamera 3 months ago +31

      True. Overcrowded, overpriced, and too much traffic.

    • Paul G
      Paul G 3 months ago +73

      @DJ Gamera NIMBY mentality. If not, it would have been like some parts of Lousiana under developed without proper water or sewage system

    • Lawn Man
      Lawn Man 3 months ago

      โ€‹@DJ Gamera Still a fun city to visit

    • Chad Leach
      Chad Leach 3 months ago +2

      Or SeaWorld, or universal, that doesn't justify unfair advantages given to one and not the others.

  • Mariah Olmstead
    Mariah Olmstead 3 months ago +63

    As a former disney world employee, the only thing we're told as to why it was built in Florida was due to it being warm all year round, and it had lots of open areas which was good for building a big theme park. I knew Disney was a Republican but I had no idea him building the parks involved politics. Definitely makes sense though.

    • Genius221
      Genius221 3 months ago

      Do you read what you are commenting!?

    • Ella Tignor
      Ella Tignor 3 months ago

      Your point?

    • Mariah Olmstead
      Mariah Olmstead 3 months ago +7

      @Ella Tignor my point is I was stating facts from someone who used to work for the corporation. Clearly you didn't read nor comprehend my comment.

  • schumanhuman
    schumanhuman 3 months ago +324

    One of the things Walt learned from Disneyland was how hotels were popping up miles out to capitalise on demand for the resort, the scale of Dsineyworld was explicitly to capture the externalties. Because of the scale however the land purchases had to be kept secet as long as possible to stop owners or land speculators from holding the land titles in expectation of the massive value the investment would create.
    However though Disney did unusually create a large amount of local land value (and this argument is sometimes used to discredit land value tax despite being a total outlier), the sites were not chosen at random but to capitalse on exisiting and new public goods, as wiki entry explains
    '. After witnessing the well-developed network of roads and taking the planned construction of both Interstate 4 and Florida's Turnpike into account, with McCoy Air Force Base (later Orlando International Airport) to the east, Disney selected a centrally located site near Bay Lake.'
    So the state should still capture that value via a land tax or equivalent methods of value capture.

  • Renaud Ally
    Renaud Ally 3 months ago +35

    I went to Disney World first week of June this year. It's shocking to see the influence they have over the area, and everyone knows about it. Even at Universal studios in the horror make-up show, a stage artist spilled water on an audience member (as part of the act). They asked them if they would like a towel, followed by "that will be $10. Welcome to Orlando!" Amazing experience.

  • nlpnt
    nlpnt 3 months ago +148

    The two big issues Walt had with the Anaheim location, which are still true today, are that out-of-towners could stay "off property" at completely non-Disney-affiliated hotels which are easy walking distance from the main gate and locals (particularly) could see traffic on I-5 from the top of the Ferris wheel and strategically time their exit based on that.

    • michaelch
      michaelch 3 months ago +10

      Disney wasn't in the hotel business in Walt's lifetime, the Disneyland Hotel was run by his Hollywood friend Jack Wrather. The company had no history as a lodging operator until after Walt died, when they took over Disney World's two hotels following visitor complaints about the outside operator they initially hired to staff them.

    • A H
      A H 3 months ago +1

      Now we canโ€™t afford to go at all๐Ÿ˜‚

  • Alex Luciano
    Alex Luciano 3 months ago +216

    They actually considered New Orleans at one point. Imagine if they got that economic boost like Florida did

    • william kaled
      william kaled 3 months ago +7

      God i wish they would have drained NOLA like they did those florida swamps xD

    • Allie Saizan
      Allie Saizan 3 months ago +10

      I am from New Orleans and I knew about this! I think they planned to use (or build?) an island in Lake Pontchartrain. If the multiverse exists, I would love to visit the universe where New Orleans got Disney World - it would have been such a different city haha

    • XEION
      XEION 3 months ago +11

      It would have been in the hotspot for hurricanes, which is where you would NOT want to build a multi-million dollar theme park.

    • william kaled
      william kaled 3 months ago +15

      @XEION So is florida ๐Ÿคจ

    • FigureFarter
      FigureFarter 3 months ago +17

      @XEION Central Florida is less on the hurricane pathway than sitting right on a gulf

  • You
    You 3 months ago +72

    I watched a documentary about Disneyland before. I think it was at Disney family museum. What happened with California Disneyland was that he wanted to whole area to be kid friendly. A lot of businesses nearby started to do whatever to benefit from the popularity of Disneyland that it started to become not so kid friendly. He bought a larger land in Florida to make sure that the surrounding areas will be Disneyland property in case he wants to expand and also to prevent businesses that will build things surrounding the park that will ruin the โ€œfantasyโ€ world that he wanted to build.

    • Jenny Rodriguez
      Jenny Rodriguez 3 months ago +7

      There's a movie called "The Florida Project" that shows this issue in particular, because it highlights a motel in Kissimmee having to cater to Disney tourists.

  • Reima
    Reima 3 months ago +1290

    Walt Disney would have been a great antagonist for a Bioshock game

    • Felipe Carvalho
      Felipe Carvalho 3 months ago +117

      No one can convince me that the antagonists we had weren't inspired by him

    • Jim Heeren
      Jim Heeren 3 months ago +65

      He already is. Who do you think Andrew Ryan is based of

    • lovely lip bones ouwwwwww wolvres.
      lovely lip bones ouwwwwww wolvres. 3 months ago +5

      Bioshock?

    • Jim Heeren
      Jim Heeren 3 months ago +31

      @lovely lip bones ouwwwwww wolvres. the video game from 2007. You know one of the best games of all time

    • Roy
      Roy 3 months ago +47

      I mean Andrew Ryan kinda looks like walt Disney

  • Walter Hill
    Walter Hill 3 months ago +131

    Fun fact. Walt Disney's parents were married in central Florida, 50 miles north of the land Walt Disney World was built on.

  • Amara Jordan Music
    Amara Jordan Music 3 months ago +93

    I wished this went into more of the feud going on, but when I looked back at the title, I realized it may need its own video for that. This video did a great job of explaining what the title promises, and thatโ€™s all I can ask for!

    • Michael Adkins
      Michael Adkins 3 months ago +10

      The feud is the governor with a massive ego, presidential ambitions and doesnt like being questioned.

    • Andre Montoya
      Andre Montoya 3 months ago +1

      It's still ongoing so maybe after the elections there will be a vid about it

    • duck
      duck 3 months ago

      ron desatan

  • ใ‚ใ‚
    ใ‚ใ‚ 3 months ago +115

    It's funny how corporations control municipalities. In Japan, the city where Toyota's headquarters is located was renamed from Koromo City to Toyota City.

    • Thomi Crisler
      Thomi Crisler 3 months ago +8

      Oh that's interesting. I always thought the company was named after the city.

    • DJ Gamera
      DJ Gamera 3 months ago +6

      @Thomi Crisler It's the same with Mitsubishi and Honda.

    • V95 Aaaap
      V95 Aaaap 2 months ago

      Money talks

  • FranklinThe1
    FranklinThe1 3 months ago +44

    There were also a lot of good Cuban artists and architects who worked on the project I would know because my grandfather was the one who owned the construction companyโ€™s and got the artists on the job. I believe most of his involvement was in the creation of itโ€™s a small world

  • rethinkOURreality
    rethinkOURreality 3 months ago +44

    Growing up in south GA, there was a rumor that Walt also considered placing WDW in Valdosta, GA. We share a lot of the same warm weather, and it's on I-75. But the owner of the land, Stafford, didn't want to sell. Not sure how much proof there is to say that's true. Today though, there is an amusement park in the area, Wild Adventures.

    • John 5
      John 5 3 months ago +2

      It is true

  • Jaime Q.
    Jaime Q. 3 months ago +1

    The DC project was just an hotel project in National Harbor. They purchased 11 acres back in 2009 but ended cancelling the project. However, the first DC-area site they saw was on Haymarket, VA proposed in the early 90s, to be called "Disney America" to which they decided to not go through due to climate, recession and the then-failure of the Euro Disney park (Disneyland Paris)

  • Jordan N Movies
    Jordan N Movies 3 months ago +1

    As a California nativeโ€ฆitโ€™s interesting that Florida gets so much more with their theme parks. Disney World + Universal Studios. Makes me wanna visit one day.

    • Mereana Wi
      Mereana Wi 3 months ago

      Same, let's go together ๐Ÿ˜Š

  • S1MPLY UND3RSTAND1NG NATUR3 [S.U.N]

    I always get the two 'land' and 'world' mixed up. Nevertheless, Walt's greatest investment was FL's Disney World

  • jj san
    jj san 2 months ago +1

    Thanks Vox! For always answering the questions we donโ€™t ask.

  • Hugo Morales
    Hugo Morales 3 months ago +186

    So basically Walt Disney was playing Cities Skylines IRL.

  • Alan J. Lopez
    Alan J. Lopez 3 months ago +7

    What a story!!! That continues to be unwritten. Letโ€™s go Disney, fight that hate! ๐Ÿ”ฅ

  • m
    m 3 months ago +129

    Florida was already a tourist state and the land near Orlando was very cheap at the time.

    • BOOZ
      BOOZ 3 months ago +1

      Make FLORIDA Great Again ๐Ÿ˜Ž Ron DeSantis

    • The Official Channel
      The Official Channel 3 months ago +6

      Why would tourist flock to Florida without disneyworld?

    • SupernovaXS
      SupernovaXS 3 months ago +18

      @The Official Channel Because of the coastline/beaches, kind of like California. Disney World added on to its appeal.

    • The Official Channel
      The Official Channel 3 months ago +8

      @SupernovaXS ohh Alligators and Swamps and Humid Air true , everyone would love to see that

    • The Official Channel
      The Official Channel 3 months ago +2

      @SupernovaXS sorry I meant like how was Florida before Disney was there? Like people really flew out there cause of the coastlines back then?

  • Rob Miller
    Rob Miller 3 months ago +6

    Great video, Phil! Thank you for all you do

  • Dwane Yocum
    Dwane Yocum 3 months ago +4

    Anyone who has ever visited the parks (I've visited both of them) knows what a special place it is and how kids and adults love it. Yes, it's expensive to plan a vacation that includes the parks, but if was free, the main problem would be over-crowding.

  • Damon Graham
    Damon Graham 3 months ago +23

    I can't remember when I first heard about Reedy Creek. I do remember I was against the idea of a corporation owning a city. Not enough to stop buying Disney products. Especially when Disney bought Marvel. Now the idea of siding with DeSantis turns my stomach. Corporations should not be in charge of counties or cities.

    • Gegi TheRein
      Gegi TheRein 3 months ago +2

      @Michael Smith The Taiwan part is actually flipped, the US made Taiwan a chip manufacturing economy to protect them financially and made them the best in the entire world at it.
      It's only recently where that's now a reason to protect Taiwan, because during the cold war as long as you were aligned with the US, they just threw money at you, they didn't care.

    • michaelch
      michaelch 3 months ago +1

      It's not officially a county. It's a Special Tax District because the property stretches across county lines and would have two dueling governments. The other theme parks don't have them because they are entirely in Orange County. Many cross-county agencies have similar districts (the Golden Gate Bridge in California, for example).

    • Damon Graham
      Damon Graham 3 months ago +1

      I stand corrected.

  • Sacto1654
    Sacto1654 2 months ago +1

    Well, I think Disney identified the fact land south of Orlando, Florida was literally dirt cheap. That's why the Walt Disney Company bought all that huge amount of land through a shell company between 1962 and 1966.

  • naerial
    naerial 3 months ago +109

    Itโ€™s sad that the only way for people to stop unpopular legislation is to have a corporation fight against it

    • AdAnalyst
      AdAnalyst 3 months ago +16

      The legislation you speak of was supported by the majority of Floridians

    • LeScratch89
      LeScratch89 3 months ago +34

      @AdAnalyst No, just the majority of northern transplants who moved to a tourist destination at 70 and then complain about the tourists.

    • Glass Card Productions
      Glass Card Productions 3 months ago +12

      *unethical legislation

    • Dark Kommissar
      Dark Kommissar 3 months ago +11

      Legislation is only unpopular if people vote against it. The definition of unpopular means that the majority of people donโ€™t like it. The legislation you speak of was, by definition, popular in Florida because the majority of people voted for it. What you want is for a corporation to step in and overturn legislation that you donโ€™t like.

    • 100c0c
      100c0c 3 months ago +2

      โ€‹@LeScratch89People who live there are Floridians too. Thats how it works.

  • M Carlson
    M Carlson 3 months ago

    this was put together so well!! thanks for sharing, the video is a lot of fun to watch!

  • Burn Lit
    Burn Lit 3 months ago +336

    If only DeSantis would actually fight Disney on things that actually matters, like how much Disney pays and treats it's 'cast members', then he might actually gain more support and may even win against the other republican candidates

    • Travis Collier
      Travis Collier 3 months ago +82

      Or maybe how Disney uses/abuses copyright laws and owns almost all the most profitable media rights now.

    • Glass Card Productions
      Glass Card Productions 3 months ago +48

      That man needs to lose before his head inflates to become the next Furher Hindenburg.

    • Scott Molnar
      Scott Molnar 3 months ago +12

      If cast members donโ€™t like their pay or treatment, they are free to quit

    • P. B. Foote
      P. B. Foote 3 months ago +55

      @Scott Molnar Why, so the next cast person can be treated unfairly?

  • Joey Matus
    Joey Matus 3 months ago +21

    I think that this argument between Disney and the state government is basically by my guess like changing the constitution to something else. I also think that if someone had rights for about 50 years they should keep those rights due to they did things good for many years

    • spicy bean
      spicy bean 3 months ago +10

      Ron's problem is the government constitutionally cannot break a contract. So he can blather all he wants but he's very limited

    • Joey Matus
      Joey Matus 3 months ago +3

      @spicy bean I get what you mean

  • Croissants & Coffee
    Croissants & Coffee 3 months ago +10

    Usually, Vox videos are shorter but get the point across in a very well-reasoned manner and very well. This one felt a bit rushed / incomplete.

    • PubSubDub
      PubSubDub 3 months ago +1

      I agree, leaving a lot out and felt incredibly rushed

  • Mauricio Uieda
    Mauricio Uieda 3 months ago

    Phil Edwards' videos are always great to watch. Great one!

  • Nagito Komaeda
    Nagito Komaeda 3 months ago +36

    Walt Disney almost became the real life equivalent of Andrew Ryan from Bioshock

    • Clint Stewart
      Clint Stewart 3 months ago +1

      Ryan was created by Ken Levine of Irrational Games based on figures including Ayn Rand, Howard Hughes, Charles Foster Kane, and Walt Disney. The character has received significant praise from critics, with Electronic Gaming Monthly ranking him ninth on their list of top ten video game politicians.

    • Manny Manuel
      Manny Manuel 3 months ago

      โ€œI chose the impossible m, I chose Disneyland ๐Ÿ˜คโ€

  • The Answer Hub
    The Answer Hub 3 months ago +1

    Perhaps the most powerful company within the state and country, providing many great jobs to their communities.

  • Nik Mohamed
    Nik Mohamed 3 months ago +75

    i'm most surprised by the fact that Disney have the legal right to operate a nuclear fission power plant right in the middle of florida

    • Michael Smith
      Michael Smith 3 months ago +30

      nuclear is a safe technology if you actually look into why the meltdowns happened

    • Corey Black
      Corey Black 3 months ago +16

      Yeah Nuclear is annihilation. I would much rather have a coal fire power plant because these are much better for the health and Climate of Florida! /s

    • Mister Banshee
      Mister Banshee 3 months ago +7

      Iโ€™m not sure how true it is but I heard Disney buys more explosives then US military cuz of all the fireworks lol

    • Science Bear
      Science Bear 3 months ago

      @Corey Black why not speed up the rate in which Florida goes underwater?

    • Corey Black
      Corey Black 3 months ago +1

      @Science Bear You've heard of property on the water, now get ready for property UNDER the water!

  • Joi Taylor
    Joi Taylor 3 months ago +16

    Local Floridian! Disney world is wild because now a million other amusement parks have built up in downtown central Florida just to mimic their success story. No local wants to go into the area because itโ€™s so overcrowded with tourists most of the time. I never go to Disney even though I live close by.

    • Ella Tignor
      Ella Tignor 3 months ago +1

      Haha, just like Times Square ๐Ÿ˜‚

    • Complex Ez
      Complex Ez 3 months ago +1

      Same with downtown DC

  • Mike B
    Mike B 3 months ago +4

    As a Florida who lives between the Villages and Disney. They both have been the main contributors of why Florida is starting to turn to garbage.

  • The Endless Daydream
    The Endless Daydream 3 months ago +4

    I just watched a video about an abandoned theme park in Europe. Imagine if Disneys massive parks were abandoned one day.

  • Mike C.
    Mike C. Month ago

    Walt did fly over Orlando 1:54. He did see I-4 & the FL turnpike intersect, (& barely any developments SW of that spot) But he(one) cannot see I-95 from Orlando. Its over 50+ miles away.
    -
    & you generalized too much about Central Florida being the only location considered.
    He did consider other places
    (as others have mentioned) and he did seriously look at Ocala, FL, because thatโ€™s where his mom was from.
    (And land was even cheaper there, than in Orlando)

  • Dave Hicks
    Dave Hicks 3 months ago +1

    Still waiting on that city. According to this video fewer than FIFTY people reside on the grounds. No massive rail system just the 1 monorail, sounds more like Disney failed to deliver, and anybody who lives here year round understand the issues this park causes daily. Drive I4 between mile marker 55 and 64 its less than 10 miles and often takes over an hour to get through. It's a 6 and 8 lane interstate that doubles as a parking lot 12 hours a day.

  • jk484
    jk484 3 months ago +8

    Any idea why thereโ€™s a huge gap in the land Disney purchased and the Reedy Creek district south of Route 530? The video uses both interchangeablely.

    • Jonathan Velez
      Jonathan Velez 3 months ago +5

      Celebration. It used to be owned by Disney as the company built the city, however they annexed it since residents wanted voting power and Disney was against it. Native Floridian and very local resident.

    • jk484
      jk484 2 months ago

      @Jonathan VelezI think you mean โ€œdeannexedโ€ it from the Reedy Creek District

  • Montana Burr
    Montana Burr 3 months ago

    About the bonds: What stops the state from deciding that the debts dissolved with the district, that neither the state nor Orange/Osceola counties nor Disney owes any money?

    • vincent412 l
      vincent412 l 3 months ago +1

      Florida could default on the bonds. Their credit-worthiness would plummet, and anytime they might need to issue bonds or borrow money would become much more expensive.

  • Juanita Ebbs
    Juanita Ebbs Month ago

    That steel drum cover of 'A Postcard to Henry Purcell' is so amazing! If anyone knows where I could find it I would really appreciate it.

  • Our Disney World Fix

    If only they would realize how much the two entities need each other and stop antagonizing the other.

  • Madame Livingston
    Madame Livingston Month ago

    Even if Disney does go out of business it doesn't matter because walt disney has already done what he wanted to do

  • StocksNSquats
    StocksNSquats 3 months ago +3

    Phil is too good for Vox. Every video he touches is instant gold....just sayin

  • Victor
    Victor 3 months ago +327

    That will teach them and other industries not to build in a swamp. Walt considered everything when he chose Florida, everything except the possibility that the swamp people might elect a tyrannical government.

    • MarioLouis64
      MarioLouis64 3 months ago +35

      A "tyrannical government" -Angry Liberal

    • Mateus Christopher
      Mateus Christopher 3 months ago +15

      As a swamp person I do not approve this message

    • Classy Demon Gaming
      Classy Demon Gaming 3 months ago +61

      โ€‹@MarioLouis64 "here we see the scaredy republican/conservative, watching the liberal herd with great fear" grow up

    • dilophosaurus king
      dilophosaurus king 3 months ago +6

      Yah i can confirm the recent conservative pushback in Florida has largely been fueled by less extreme left leaners deciding to vote for Ron after seeing the stuff folks in Cali. Have been getting up too

  • ElJefeDe Texas
    ElJefeDe Texas 3 months ago +4

    Florida depends on Tourism, without Tourism you really only have left is farming & fishing

  • Inscrutable Mungus
    Inscrutable Mungus 3 months ago +16

    I've got two words to describe the whole situation: "Who cares?"
    Yeah, a multi billion dollar company is having a little tiff with the local mob boss. Who would've thunk it?

  • Mikhail Abu Nidal
    Mikhail Abu Nidal Month ago

    Thanks for showing our ๐Ÿกstate of Florida! With this video

  • King Ace
    King Ace 3 months ago +6

    Well, Disney World may not be a futuristic utopia, but it is still an independent kingdom that is essential to Florida's economy. Checkmate.
    Wow, I did not know about the bond debt transferring to the counties. Nice one, Ron DeMeatball.

    • John Moore
      John Moore 3 months ago +1

      Ironic huh? The low taxes, keep government out, red party is doing the exact opposite of their own mission statement. Removing or dissolving Reedy Creek would cause massive tax increases in the surrounding, red voting counties. Makes no senseโ€ฆ but hey itโ€™s FL - Iโ€™ve lived here my whole life and canโ€™t explain it, must be the humidity.

    • vincent412 l
      vincent412 l 3 months ago

      The bond debt would go to the state. But Disney does pay the counties property tax without receiving services, so the counties would have to start providing those services to Disney.

  • Whip Splash
    Whip Splash 3 months ago +15

    I'm glad Governor Ron Disaster showed us who he is before running for president.

  • Isaac Martinez
    Isaac Martinez 3 months ago +67

    Itโ€™s sad that Walt Disney didnโ€™t live to see the opening of Disney World.

    • Jim Heeren
      Jim Heeren 3 months ago +15

      No itโ€™s not. He was a horrible man

    • Prince Valencia
      Prince Valencia 3 months ago +11

      @Jim Heeren You knew him? Cool!

    • laura
      laura 3 months ago +5

      โ€‹@Prince Valenciathe rumours are big

    • NE Patrul
      NE Patrul 3 months ago +6

      @Jim Heeren the single greatest individual ever to embody the โ€œAmerican Dreamโ€ was not actually a terrible person, but I understand thatโ€™s a popular thing to read on the internet.

    • cesar
      cesar 3 months ago

      @Jim Heeren how? elaborate (iโ€™m not being ignorant i just donโ€™t know what he did)

  • T
    T Month ago

    I would love for Disney to leave Florida! Iโ€™m excited for Disney. They could exit slowly. โค

  • Leeartlee
    Leeartlee 2 months ago +1

    Disney world being in Florida is the number one reason why i havenโ€™t been. Not going to that state unless required by law.

  • Jackson Ong
    Jackson Ong 3 months ago +4

    I wonder how the taxpayers of the local counties that all this debt will likely now fall onto feel about desantisโ€™ little war with Disney?

  • Italian Lifestyle
    Italian Lifestyle 3 months ago +10

    Hopefully I'll get to see this amazing place someday๐Ÿคฉ

  • Michael Smith
    Michael Smith 3 months ago +5

    the politics of this area was defined, before the 1st blade of soil was turned - that is after Gulf Oil donated the land.

  • Esteban Ossa Alarcรณn
    Esteban Ossa Alarcรณn 3 months ago +11

    For good or for bad Disney is Orlando and Orlando is Disney.
    Easy, half of the people I know in the area work in something related to them parks or hospitality.

  • Samantha Kops
    Samantha Kops 3 months ago +9

    Disney is building communities now in the Coachella Valley area in CA

  • Iron 451
    Iron 451 3 months ago +11

    walt disney is truly one of the absolute best

    • Victor Jordan
      Victor Jordan 3 months ago +3

      Except for the National Socialist support thing.
      Oh...and the racist and sexist thing.
      Other than that...a genius and by genius I mean he built his kingdom off someone else's idea

  • A Florida Son
    A Florida Son 3 months ago +57

    "Legal Mindset" is a great place to get all of the answers about "the feud".

  • ะะธะบะธั‚ะฐ ะ—ะฐะณะฒะพะทะดะบะธะฝ

    But wait, they did manage to build a city of future. A future controlled by giant corporations without any legal restrictions from the public, that is.

  • Renovator
    Renovator 3 months ago

    I think Texas would be a decent location. Doesn't get too cold and sees snow like 3 days out of the year.

  • Air Maka
    Air Maka 3 months ago +2

    I know Disney is from Illinois but how come he never tried doing something like a little tribute prototype area of the park in Chicago like make a Disney tower

  • Andrew Seaton
    Andrew Seaton 3 months ago

    You left out how the Reedy Creek District voted all of its powers over to Disney in their last meeting before the new DeSantis board took over.

    • Indiana1616
      Indiana1616 3 months ago

      I missed the part where that was illegal

  • Cole Freer
    Cole Freer 3 months ago +49

    Ron DeSantis should know not to pick a fight with Disneyโ€™s lawyers, theyโ€™ve single-handedly changed copyright law several times

    • BOOZ
      BOOZ 3 months ago +1

      Make FLORIDA Great Again ๐Ÿ˜Ž Ron DeSantis

    • GG-Private
      GG-Private 3 months ago +5

      @BOOZ Make Florida Lose Again ๐Ÿ˜ŽRon DeSterile

    • Thanos Patrick
      Thanos Patrick 3 months ago

      You'd prefer that Disney go unchecked then? Mickey Mouse should have been public domain like 30 years ago but they keep getting laws changed and you are chill with them having that level of influence? If I'm misreading you then just say so but that's how you are coming off

    • Casually Stalled
      Casually Stalled 3 months ago +3

      @Thanos Patrick i think his point is that it's pointless to fight against the freaking mouse. but yeah they shouldn't be so unchecked. Reedy Creek should still remain under disney otherwise us Floridians will legit have to pay for it as said in the video

  • armando sanchez
    armando sanchez 3 months ago +3

    Now we need a Disney vs Florida

  • Neil
    Neil 3 months ago +18

    Well done video. Good infographics and archival video

  • vincent412 l
    vincent412 l Month ago

    Wonder how much the RCID name change is costing Disney. Every sign must be changed, all buildings; especially the garbage bins. All stationary must be changed etc. Was there a legitamate reason for the name change?

  • Young Gandalf
    Young Gandalf 3 months ago +47

    Disney needs to expand to a space station, the moon or Mars.

    • BOOZ
      BOOZ 3 months ago

      or LAS VEGAS ๐Ÿ–๏ธโ›ฑ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿค”

  • Justin Bataille
    Justin Bataille 3 months ago

    As an European, I now know where the ideas for Epic Mickey came from

  • Daniel Gomez
    Daniel Gomez 3 months ago +3

    I hope Walt Disney World won't close and I hope it won't be abandon ?
    and I hope the Walt Disney company will not think of moving to another destination with humongous land, bigger than the Disneyland Resort

    • NATOist
      NATOist 3 months ago +2

      I donโ€™t know man Californiaโ€™s looking real attractive right about now

  • J Dyer
    J Dyer 3 months ago +4

    This built up the history really well and then just said 'somehow palpatine returned' and ended.

  • Alaska
    Alaska 3 months ago +28

    Lol 50-100% increase in tourism for Florida the governor had no idea how big his vision was I imagine it is more like X10 that ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Racher50
    Racher50 3 months ago +19

    This video just made me realise Iron man 2โ€™s stark expo was inspired by this EPCOT.

  • Upside Down Creative Media

    Florida is awesome. Iโ€™ve lived here for 15 years. I have lived in Monterey, CA, Virginia Beach, VA, Alabama, grew up in Memphis/Nashville, TN and I canโ€™t say enough about how awesome Florida is. Nothing compares.

    • Cities talk
      Cities talk 3 months ago

      What part of memphis

    • Johnny Manning
      Johnny Manning  3 months ago

      Agreed. Iโ€™m a part time resident here in the Orlando area and itโ€™s awesome. Best place ever.

  • Preston Val
    Preston Val 3 months ago +1

    So wasn't a site in Louisiana around New Orleans ( Near Slidell/ Lacombe) under strong consideration before Florida ??

    • Michael Taylor
      Michael Taylor 17 days ago

      Six Flags got flooded near Slidell. Disney likely knew NOLA was a bad choice because of flooding. Walt also liked existing interstate access in Florida.

  • Ma Rrii Mar
    Ma Rrii Mar 3 months ago

    The ending was a spectacular reference of the clause!

  • Par Sidhu
    Par Sidhu 3 months ago +5

    A municipality taxes it's residents. I feel like it's asking a lot for a corporation to do out of pocket

  • Bobby Ring
    Bobby Ring 3 months ago +1

    Does anyone know what condos/apartments are owned by Disney on Little Lake Bryan, that he was talking about?
    Thatโ€™s where the college housing used to be

  • vacafuega
    vacafuega 3 months ago +6

    Ah yes - the handpan, the official instrument of Fantasyland

  • Lil Monke
    Lil Monke 3 months ago +11

    Although I donโ€™t agree with Disneyโ€™s political views lately, I think itโ€™s wrong for DeSantis to clearly retaliate against the company for having a different political view.

    • Ella Tignor
      Ella Tignor 3 months ago

      Go woke go broke

    • Lil Monke
      Lil Monke 3 months ago +1

      @Ella Tignor Going broke because consumers donโ€™t agree with your political views is one thing, government retaliation because of your political views is another. Or is America not the land of the free?

    • Michael Adkins
      Michael Adkins 3 months ago +2

      @Ella Tignor Meaning what? Exactly.

  • Movieclips101
    Movieclips101 2 months ago +1

    Great video and information ๐Ÿ’ฏ

  • Brandon Deveraux
    Brandon Deveraux 3 months ago +95

    Desantis is comically bad to get me rooting for a megacorporation that owns practically everything.

    • Not Gordon Freeman
      Not Gordon Freeman 3 months ago +5

      Which is why I'm rooting for DeSantis, and not the corporation who sued a grieving father for putting an image of Spiderman on his son's grave. I've never heard any stories about DeSantis intentionally destroying a terminally ill child's final wish.

    • เคฎเคฎเค• เคฆเค• เค•เคฆเคตเคฆเคจ
      เคฎเคฎเค• เคฆเค• เค•เคฆเคตเคฆเคจ 3 months ago +7

      @Not Gordon Freemanwhich is worse, a transphobic politician or a corporation doing rainbow capitalism hmm๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

    • Equestria Guy
      Equestria Guy 3 months ago +8

      @Not Gordon Freeman DeSantis, who calls trans people mutants and think the whole group of people should be eradicated? Does it remind you of someone (hint - Hitler)?

    • The Chosen One
      The Chosen One 3 months ago +2

      @Equestria Guy he never said they should be eradicated, stop the hyperbole

  • Adorable Earth Angel
    Adorable Earth Angel 2 months ago +2

    Wow, the original blueprints looks like burning man's actual layout ๐Ÿ˜…

  • Daniel Jimenez
    Daniel Jimenez 3 months ago +1

    i really wish they were able to make his dream come true

  • Kaguyaa
    Kaguyaa 3 months ago +3

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
    Go Disney!

  • Harrison Jackson
    Harrison Jackson 3 months ago

    This has been very informative. Vox is worried about deSantos

  • Lalo Garcia
    Lalo Garcia 3 months ago

    Let's be honest Disneyworld is moving to Georgia sadly Desantis has officially destroyed Disney's presence there

  • Steve Salvesen
    Steve Salvesen 3 months ago +1

    Disney should move to southern Arizona...maybe Phoenix or Tucson area..weather is better year around without the humidity .

  • Dark Kommissar
    Dark Kommissar 3 months ago

    The Magic Kingdom should use some of itโ€™s magic to get rid of the humidity. If you like walking around wet, like you just got off a water ride, even though you havenโ€™t been on a water ride, then this place is for you. Your underwear will feel as swampy as the land that Disney World is built on.

  • Alifa Hafizah
    Alifa Hafizah 3 months ago +1

    Respect Disneyโค

  • Andrew J Queen
    Andrew J Queen 3 months ago

    Yea, I wish they had kept building up the Monorail system. At least it would've continued to feel like the city of tomorrow. Buses don't give that vibe.

  • Ray Bravo
    Ray Bravo 3 months ago

    Was Disney world segregated when it opened and why or why not? I'd like to see an investigative report on that.

    • R N
      R N 3 months ago +1

      No. Segregation was over by the time the park was built.

    • Ray Bravo
      Ray Bravo 3 months ago

      โ€‹@R Nwhat about Disneyland?