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    Would any of these Disney couples actually live happily ever after?
    Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright dive back into the world of Disney animation for round two of ranking Disney romances! They're taking a look at 5 more classic Disney couples to see what's good, what's bad, and what's ugly. This time we've got The Aristocats (Duchess and O'Malley), Hercules (Hercules and Meg), Mulan (Mulan and Shang), The Princess and the Frog (Tiana and Naveen), and Tarzan (Tarzan and Jane) to see which couples might be headed for tough times ahead, and which seem to be on pretty good footing to get to happily ever after. From lying about their identity or goals, to facing preconceived notions about people or life, to literally dying, there's some pretty big hurdles for some of these couples to overcome.
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    Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker, and Alan Seawright
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  • Cinema Therapy
    Cinema Therapy  2 months ago +421

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    • sabrina venti
      sabrina venti 2 days ago

      i really didn't need this boost to my lazyness xD xD

    • Shadowthedragon1278
      Shadowthedragon1278 21 day ago

      If you do a part 3 could you do Aurora and Prince Philip I think that's what her prince's name is

    • Jess Lee
      Jess Lee Month ago

      Anna and Kristoff next please

    • Riley Garraway
      Riley Garraway Month ago

      Love the video you guys are great and funny

    • LittleMissGamerGal
      LittleMissGamerGal Month ago

      I would like to see a video based on the relationships between parents and their children. Just watching Brave and seeing merida and her mums relationship better itself from their journey they go on through the film. I'm not sure if this happens in other Disney films, I can't think off the top of my head but I think exploring and looking at more parents and their kids in Disney movies and if their relationships get better or worse depending on the story. Not sure if that makes any sense but 🤷‍♀️ 😄 hope this sparks ideas :)

  • reira who
    reira who Month ago +10698

    watching two grown men contemplate on the similarities between their wifes and their disney princess crushes is the cutest thing i have seen in a long time.

    • Lilou Konjar
      Lilou Konjar 15 days ago +1

      Hey, just wanted to let you know that you now have 9879 likes on your post. Have a good one

    • no name
      no name Month ago

      @LizzyDizzyYo 😬

    • FunkyFreakyAndFabulous
      FunkyFreakyAndFabulous Month ago +18

      Watching them cry over Inside Out was pretty cute too lol

    • Everything
      Everything Month ago +4

      U just made my day 😂❤️

    • Rachael Brugmans
      Rachael Brugmans Month ago +3

      This

  • Persefoni Ajax
    Persefoni Ajax Month ago +2729

    I wish you would have commented on how Hercules handled Meg's false advances! He's very respectful of her, she puts her leg down and he looks away and respectfully puts her leg back down, she lets her strap fall off of her shoulder and he fixes it instead of letting it stay down or pulling it down further. I dunno, it just means something to me that he was very clearly attracted to her and yet he respected her instead of objectifying her and looking when he had a chance to.

    • Clara Catlady
      Clara Catlady 4 days ago +1

      Agreed

    • Mad Hatter
      Mad Hatter 12 days ago +1

      I get what you're saying, his immediate thoughts are not to just see her as a fun object to be used as soon as possible. Maybe it was all just a bit too fast for him, he may not have even been 'there' before, or maybe he prefers to have an emotional connection with someone first, or at least try to work out what their motivations are. Men like that exist, the fact we expect them all to be immediately up for it when we give them access, & that it's something to be praised when they are not, is a little bit sad. If anything it works out for him though as this leaves him less open to manipulation, by the time he has to make sacrifices for her at least he genuinely cares for her, & her for him, & they can save each other.

    • Pablo Ruiz
      Pablo Ruiz 19 days ago +8

      I don't know. I haven't seen the movie, but that scene they showed was predatory, with Meg being the predator and Hercules being the innocent prey. His body and his head kept pulling away as she kept advancing. The animators even had Hercules show way more skin than Meg, laying bare a crazy amount of leg, feminizing him to signal that he was the victim here. So Hercules being respectful was just the half of it--he honestly didn't want anything Meg was offering at that moment. He was deeply uncomfortable, if we go by his body language alone. His interest did change almost immediately, however, when Meg stopped chasing him by distancing herself and sitting by herself, showing her vulnerability. No longer was she the predator but just a simple human being displaying her weaknesses. That's when Hercules felt comfortable enough to take her hands and show some loving language.

    • Bailey Harris
      Bailey Harris 25 days ago +1

      Amen 👏👏

    • LeMay Gaming
      LeMay Gaming 26 days ago +21

      It’s objectifying to reciprocate someone’s advances? Also, she was making him very uncomfortable with her sexual advances and yet kept advancing. Switch the genders and Hercules would be irredeemable.

  • Adaline Harbert
    Adaline Harbert Month ago +4366

    When they said “Tarzan better build her a Swiss Family Robinson palace”, there was a TV show and they moved into his parents’ tree house. Also there was an episode I loved when Jane’s friends from England actually showed up in the jungle, and Jane is like “Tarzan please wear this suit we’re going to have a garden party” but he refuses, thinking she’s embarrassed of him. So Jane’s dad talks to him and is like “she lives in your jungle world everyday. Would it be so bad if you lived in her ‘civilized’ world for one?” And Tarzan finally gets it. Honestly so many moments in that show that address so many marriage issues lol.

    • Jessica Villar
      Jessica Villar 3 days ago

      I love how the show expanded the universe, like with the merchant, that brought some "civilization". So it doesn't look so crazy that Jane quit regular life to live between mosquitos and gorillas, because is more like a little colony or settlement.
      Adding to the dad thing. It shows that is good to have a third parties sometimes, to give perspective. And also support of the family. Imagining changing countries/life styles and your parents will refuse to visit you in Christmas or something. In real life I had meet old people moving to a country with a language they don't speak just to help their daughter/son with the grandchildren and be part of their lives.

    • KamOnKamCrime
      KamOnKamCrime 10 days ago

      you just unlocked a vivid childhood memory

    • Fiona Tsang
      Fiona Tsang 22 days ago +2

      @locabsgg94 it's the same thing, they actually stitched together a few episodes from the tv series so they could market it as The Sequel: Tarzan and Jane (or I guess they split the movie up into tv episodes so they could air alongside the rest of the series, depending on how you look at it :P)

    • Caidalee
      Caidalee Month ago +2

      I remember that movie! Looking back, it wasn’t very good, but I did love that moment you’re talking about. That was the only vignette I cared about.

    • Half_a_Lesbian
      Half_a_Lesbian Month ago +1

      @Lenny Cake The Legend of Tarzan

  • Elizabeth Athineu
    Elizabeth Athineu Month ago +2250

    Actually, Jonathan, Shang DID consider the why and that's what fueled his compassion. Watch the scene again and when Mulan mentions her father, there is absolute heartbreak in Shang's eyes since he knew the pain of worrying about his father at war all of his life but was powerless to save his life. If anything, Shang was angry, but saw her as an equal at least in motivation and truly admired that. Shang may not have been in love with her at the moment, but he respected and silently envied her sacrifice. Their bond is potentially the most powerful of any Disney couple.

    • Ericka Gilson
      Ericka Gilson 4 days ago

      Interesting fact; in the original story, Shang didn’t care that Mulan was a girl warrior, he actually admired how she sacrificed her life for her father.

    • CMM
      CMM 29 days ago

      @Nick Chavez Great points.

    • CMM
      CMM 29 days ago +1

      I agree. I love Mulan and Shang best of all. One thing I always noticed that I think is often overlooked: Shang spared her as a WARRIOR, not as a person he loved or felt sorry for, or as a woman or out of pity or weakness. He had to make it abundantly clear to his troops as well that you can't just disregard rules because you sympathize the rule-breaker. He told Mulan he would spare her life because she saved his: he respected her contributions as a warrior and the justice of her position. It was scary when he drew his sword, but liked that too because it showed Shang knew Mulan had courage and a sense of justice too; she didn't cower away from him. She understood and appreciated the position he was in too.
      They were both just great. ❤

    • Phoenix
      Phoenix Month ago +3

      I’ve watched this movie countless times (my all time favorite) and u just enlightened me with ur wisdom. I never thought about it. She took her father’s place to save him from dying in war (and to prove to herself that she worth more than what she is credited for by society) and Shang had just lost his father to war and couldn’t save him. How didn’t I think of that!

    • Lore Goblin
      Lore Goblin Month ago +5

      @Nick Chavez I think this take really misses the forest for the trees. the point of contrasting Mulan and Shang is that Mulan told a necessary lie in order to save her father's life, and Shang watched his father die due to his military career, and nearly followed in his footsteps right to the very end. Mulan is the reason why any of them lived, which is why Shang can't kill her. but more than that, Mulan emphasizes the flaws in the system that Shang feels obligated to fall in line and uphold. functionally speaking, yes, Mulan told Shang that she was a man named Ping. but every idiosyncrasy she expressed was still something she'd do, regardless of her name or assumed gender. the lie is only skin deep... and the greatest truth that is revealed about the identity of Mulan, is that she would throw away everything, even her ability to bring her family honor, for the sake of preserving the life and safety of the people who matter to her. she's one of the few people in the movie who treats military men as though they are people who deserve to have their lives preserved in a humane way. but, if not for this one lie, she wouldn't have even been there. not to save her father, not to save Shang's unit, and not to save Shang.
      and yes, Shang does have plenty of reason to feel deeply conflicted about that. it makes sense that kicking her out and leaving her is the best he can do in that moment. and it makes sense that it takes time, even after Mulan finds them again, before he can accept her narrative. but it also makes sense for his opinion to change the way it does by the end of the movie.

  • waterwindow
    waterwindow Month ago +834

    They forgot to mention that Tarzan chose to go back to England with her first before Clayton's betrayal changed his priorities towards protecting his family, where then Jane changed her mind near the end of the movie. So they both made the choice.

    • Emila
      Emila 13 days ago

      @Nuraini Arsad still as a man reised by monkeys he is way more human then most people

    • Nuraini Arsad
      Nuraini Arsad 19 days ago +45

      Also I think you need to take into consideration that he doesn’t really know the extent of what she sacrifices. He never lived it or really know much about what such a life might be like, even following her civilising efforts.

    • Kelsey Peterson
      Kelsey Peterson Month ago +40

      Yes! Exactly! I was surprised they didn't mention that part!

  • Kaitlin Keplinger
    Kaitlin Keplinger 2 months ago +4651

    With Shang, I noticed after a couple more watches that after Mulan told him about the Huns and before he meets the emperor, he does very subtly look around. So he did believe her. And as for Naveen, the very first time he meets Tiana, he flirts with her but she brushes him off. And rather than doing the cliche of pushing it, he just casually accepted the rejection and went on his way. I always liked that about him.

    • Sky Dragon
      Sky Dragon 14 days ago

      So he's a respectable playboy.

    • Ritaru
      Ritaru 24 days ago

      Iup, I always loves Naveen because of his personality

    • Kieran Stark
      Kieran Stark Month ago +3

      Not to mention the fact that while sometimes in fiction, even when the guys have thinner legs than the girls (whether they be extra or slim or just by comparison if not in general THICC), we’re going to have to make an exception with Tiana and Naveen (as frogs) because while Naveen was never EXTRA THICC, he, as a frog, certainly has wider legs than Tiana, who would be even more meaty as a human in the veins of the Disney Princesses who came before Moana, who is the most muscular one (especially the legs) alongside Mulan (THICC).

    • kyle ellis
      kyle ellis Month ago +12

      @happybunnyntx It was always clear DAvid would have been Nani's friend for life, even if they never dated.

    • Amar Amor Amei
      Amar Amor Amei Month ago +4

      @Gurgle Queen And his bass!! he already knew he had a super bass!!!

  • TriptoAddict
    TriptoAddict Month ago +513

    My favorite Disney couple is Rapunzel and Eugene. ESPECIALLY if you watch Tangled: The Series, when he tries to propose to her, and she ultimately says no ( which is shocking for everyone. ) But GOSH, the scene where Eugene talks to her about it, and he's so understanding, compassionate, and basically says he'll wait as long as he has to to make sure she is ready, and he's sorry for springing the question so early. Just, ugh, they're good.

    • s_napps
      s_napps 6 days ago +6

      I love that in that show the writers gave them problems, real couple problems. It wasn't happy ever after. There were doubts and fears and so many little things that everyday people live through.

    • Sky Dragon
      Sky Dragon 14 days ago +15

      She eventually decided to propose to him instead. Though things happened instead.

    • Simplenotion
      Simplenotion 20 days ago +29

      @Kristina Huchison You do know about the real story, right?

    • Kristina Huchison
      Kristina Huchison Month ago +13

      Yes! They’re definitely my favorite along with Pocahontas and John Smith! Both are very beautiful couples and are my favorite Disney movies too!

  • EmeraldSpirals
    EmeraldSpirals Month ago +919

    I think Ariel's willingness to throw away her life wasn't just because of Eric but because Triton had just committed a major betrayal of her trust and made her feel like she didn't really have a home where she could feel safe and be herself anymore. So at the time it didn't really feel like a sacrifice, it was like Luke Skywalker leaving Tatooine after the moisture farm was torched.

    • ᜑᜒᜋᜒᜋ Пинагод
      ᜑᜒᜋᜒᜋ Пинагод 10 days ago +2

      @Rocky Desert Flower I believe there already _was_ a long history of humans killing mermaids (more than likely accidentally due to boats). It was from a series under the Little Mermaid I believe, and Triton's wife was one of the victims.

    • ᜑᜒᜋᜒᜋ Пинагод
      ᜑᜒᜋᜒᜋ Пинагод 10 days ago +3

      @Nikki Pittman Did you think 'Go and follow a man you absolutely have no information of, trust a shady stranger to give you a journey you think you want, and go risk your life trying!' a better option? I'm aware that Triton was in no way a healthy father but risking everything you have, even the underlying love of your family, just to be with someone you don't know is just as unhealthy in itself.
      And I feel the need to mention this, but the reason why Triton is this strict is because their mother died due to humans - And they _saw_ it. The daughters knew about the dangers, everyone knew about the dangers, so it's not like this anger came out of nowhere. I mean have you seen the stuff humans do to sea creatures? If mermaids would actually exist, it's pretty understandable why they wouldn't have made themselves known to us by now.
      I can acknowledge that Ariel is a young soul, and she wants to get on adventures, but that doesn't mean her actions were justified.
      Edit: Found the link: clip-share.net/video/KYN1zyNLUfI/video.html

    • Mad Hatter
      Mad Hatter 12 days ago +2

      Yeah, she's pretty much a run away. It's not the best decision, but how many kids run away from home when things get really tough, controlling, or even abusive, & they see a simple way out & an opportunity to make it happen.

    • Mad Hatter
      Mad Hatter 12 days ago +5

      @AceLovesDIYs Christopher yes, especially when you are 16, don't know much about life, have hyper focused on one solution to your problems (such as running away or being with another person) & are not able to see when someone much older is manipulating your despair, offering you what you 'want' & a way out, when really they have their own agenda (which includes hurting you). It could work as a pretty good life lesson. Be careful when you are young, in the grips of 'first love', & despairing of family members toxic behaviours. This is when you are vulnerable to bad decisions & manipulation.

    • Posegativity
      Posegativity 12 days ago +3

      @Nikki Pittman that scene ALWAYS hurts me

  • A.m P.m
    A.m P.m Month ago +522

    Well actually coming from a Black woman I loved "Princess and The Frog." I loved how they went a totally different route rather than two people liking eachother off the bat because one was royalty. I loved how Tiana was an independent, hard working woman because that's who I am, my mother and my grandmother are. Also how much she loved and admired her father, making his dream her dream. She just had to understand that his dream was more than owning a restaurant. I also enjoyed how they showed her that there is more to life than just working hard that if you work too hard you'll miss out on life. I enjoyed Naveens WHOLE transformation from being a spoiled little rich boy to a unselfish husband. Both characters balanced one another out, Tiana the responsible one Naveen the one full of life. They rounded eachother out. So, personally I very much enjoyed this movie it's one of my favorites. Because other than her skin, I seen so much of me. People who only fixed on her being a frog missed the whole reason why she was a frog. But hey, others opinion. Also Soul, soul was just beautiful art wise. There was enough black people and black culture in that movie to look past the main character being a spirit. But hey, again my opinion.
    Edit: Lol yeah, I wrote this at the shame part. Didn't see what was said after yet.

    • Beatriz
      Beatriz Day ago

      i was looking for a fellow black woman talking about it and im happy i found it! The way they showed that she has to work harder bc she doesnt come from a privileged background and how unfamiliar she was with romance and someone wanting to take care of her always hits me very close to home and i think is a very black woman thing. its like: the girls who get it, get, and the one who dont, wont

    • Sky Dragon
      Sky Dragon 14 days ago

      I like that they didn't make Naveen a black person. He's different as well, with quite the accent.

    • mihlali ralarala
      mihlali ralarala 25 days ago

      @Sophie Tecle 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • ScarySara93
      ScarySara93 28 days ago

      @Nnenna
      Well “ungrateful” seemed to be the best way to put it for my point of veiw; I mean I could have gone with the word “whiney ” instead, now that would have been inappropriate.

    • Nnenna
      Nnenna 29 days ago

      @Nya R this is 100% valid

  • Khalexnet
    Khalexnet Month ago +350

    I think Milo and Kida from Atlantis: The Lost Empire would be a great addition to another Disney Couples episode! Their dynamic and the way their relationship progresses is really interesting; it feels like a cross between Tarzan/Jane (in the sense of Milo teaching Kida how to read her language) and Fix-it Felix/Sergeant Calhoun (in the sense of less physically strong but resourceful guy and strong woman).

    • Midnight Cassiopeia
      Midnight Cassiopeia 22 days ago +7

      PLEASE. The best relationship in Disney at all (ok caveat, David and Nani). There's no immediate kiss, no romance right off the bat, he's simply there to support and appreciate her and she's there to learn from and teach him. They're friends to start and they trust and respect each other. It's fantastic!

    • Nicole Estigarribia
      Nicole Estigarribia Month ago +4

      Yes! I would love to see them in your next video, they are my favorite Disney couple ❤️

  • snap my neck
    snap my neck 2 months ago +4126

    Alan: “Do they end in a healthy place or do they end at the beginning of a healthy place?”
    Me: *sweats in Greek mythology*

    • Dreamergal9
      Dreamergal9 Month ago +1

      Thankfully Disney ignored way more basic details of Greek Mythology, so I think within the Disney canon it’s safe to say things don’t end up like that

    • Irish DC 95
      Irish DC 95 Month ago +3

      At least Disney wasn't true to the myths. Probably the biggest inaccuracy was Zeus being in a committed monogamous marriage and not cheating on her

    • Yuri Oroku
      Yuri Oroku Month ago

      @Inoli316 ahhh

    • Inoli316
      Inoli316 Month ago +1

      @Yuri Oroku one of my favorite lines is “Unorthodox display of hubris, but very well.”

    • Yuri Oroku
      Yuri Oroku Month ago

      @Inoli316 that seems an interesting thing to watch! Thanks!

  • The Phantom Masquerade
    The Phantom Masquerade Month ago +314

    I'm so glad Duchess & O'Malley got the top spot, The Aristocat's is such an underrated film.

    • The Jade
      The Jade 15 days ago +1

      I haven't seen it but just based off what I've seen. Looks beautiful.

    • Olivetree
      Olivetree Month ago +11

      yeah, cause it came out during Disney's bronze age. It's so nostalgic for me, even though the story itself isn't epic or deep.

  • ForgottonPast
    ForgottonPast Month ago +748

    This is late and probably will be lost in the the thousands of comments but I honestly really like Tangled with Rapunzel and Eugene. Especially in their TV show (which is actually really good). They have a real and genuine relationship that I have never seen in any other Disney franchise. They also deal with Rapzunzel’s trauma in a way that many other shows shy away from.

    • Sky Dragon
      Sky Dragon 14 days ago

      And they work through any problems they have together. And Eugene is an official prince of Disney now. Not only because he married Rapunzel. (watch the series)

    • 89taklung
      89taklung 20 days ago

      Exactly what I wrote. They have so many opportunities to go the silly rom com route, like with the proposals or stallion etc instead both consider the position of the other, don'tget overly mad and they talk things through. They are the best role models ever

    • emma
      emma Month ago +7

      I looove how they handle Rapunzel's trauma in the show! So tasteful and it's still Rapunzel and Eugene

    • Angela Smith
      Angela Smith Month ago +5

      YESSS absolutely LOVE the series and movie-such a FAVE!

    • Alesha Williams
      Alesha Williams Month ago +7

      @LizzyDizzyYo yeah it was 👍

  • Rachel Esbenshade
    Rachel Esbenshade Month ago +164

    9:30 I used to think Shang just told Mulan to go home because he was angry at her for deceiving him too. And while I still think he was angry at her, I think he also was trying to protect her. He spared her life in the mountains, and here she comes, dressed in men's clothes, in a PARADE in the CAPITAL CITY. He knows he can't intimidate Chi-Fu into keeping his mouth shut like he did before. Not to mention his other soldiers. I think he believed her, or at least was open to the possibility, and was trying to make her leave before people started asking questions.

    • Jessica Villar
      Jessica Villar 3 days ago +1

      I not agreeing that much. But indeed, seconds before the enemies went out of the dragon costume, he was 'looking around', suspecting and wondering. So, if could be that he was suspecting because he took in consideration Mulan's words, or he was just thinking 'wtf this dragon so close, they are breathing in my neck '

    • FireDogBreads
      FireDogBreads 27 days ago +7

      While I see your reasoning and where you are coming from, I disagree. When I watch the parade scene, right after Mulan told Shang that the Huns were alive, he immediately dismissed it. He didn't even take a few seconds to think it over. He just disregarded what she was saying, and if he was truly open to the possibility that there was an ENEMY GROUP IN THE CITY, I think anyone in their right mind would take necessary precautions, especially considering it's his job. And even he was trying to protect her, that isn't doing justice to Mulan, to her character, or her accomplishments. She saved his life, even if he didn't trust her, he should at least take her seriously. I think where their relationship left off is a healthy place, but I wouldn't defend his actions. (Not hating on the movie, the characters, or where their relationship was at the end of the movie, BTW. Love Mulan!☺)

    • CMM
      CMM 29 days ago +16

      I agree. Especially because he showed up right away to help her and the friends out in the Emperor's palace. It was more 'Please, Mulan, are you REALLY not getting how much danger you and all of us will be in if you get caught . . . well, if you're going to go ahead anyway I'd better do all I can to help so we may have a chance of surviving this.'
      Coming from a military family, I loved so much of the nuance in Mulan and Shang's relationship and the realism of what it's like to be in the military and what you have to be prepared to sacrifice.

  • Deanna Davis
    Deanna Davis Month ago +349

    Glad you gave Tiana and Naveen the respect they deserve! They’re my favorite Disney couple because there was actual substance to why they fell in love. They both had something the other lacked. Tiana was hard working but never made time to have fun. Naveen only had fun and never made time for hard work. But by getting to know and understand one another, they learn that there needs to be a balance, ultimately, growing as both individuals and as a couple.

  • Trina Q
    Trina Q 2 months ago +10250

    I found it refreshing that Mulan and Shang aren't properly together by the end, but are taking it slow. They need time to know each other as themselves, and not as comrades.

    • Shaggyd00 Kale
      Shaggyd00 Kale 3 days ago

      No help for her grandma on the taking it slow part

    • Sky Dragon
      Sky Dragon 14 days ago

      Their relationship develops more in the second movie.

    • //PROJECT JT314
      //PROJECT JT314 21 day ago

      And then they made Mulan 2...

    • Bea A
      Bea A Month ago

      And that’s why we got Mulan 2!

    • Kaspleen
      Kaspleen Month ago

      The Chinese version made in 2009, the one I suppose you could call Shang, married someone else in the end due to political reasons. Mulan ends up back at her village alone. They liked each other but they could not be together. It was a very good film though

  • infinitekurosoul
    infinitekurosoul Month ago +137

    I wouldn't call Tarzan making Jane say she'll stay to the baby gorillas manipulative, considering he really thought that was the case. He was misled by Clayton, he was lied to that showing them the gorillas would allow them to stay. He doesn't understand how their world works, to him it made sense, he had no way of knowing what it actually meant. He genuinely thought he was just saying the truth.

    • Katie Rosenau
      Katie Rosenau Month ago +25

      Also something I like about that scene is that he viewed it as a very simple choice. If she wants to stay, she should stay. Essentially, Carpe Diem. We have as humans a gift for talking ourselves out of amazing experiences that are suddenly presented to us. We convince ourselves that it’s complicated, and a totally out of the question option. But sometimes when we encounter someone who actually voices something that we were afraid to dream about, it somehow becomes a REAL option. Sometimes it really IS as simple as saying, “yes, deep down I truly do want to take this chance.”

  • MuhsinFatih
    MuhsinFatih Month ago +96

    How on earth you haven't made a video about ATLA? No other show comes remotely close to catching my empathy. Absolutely insane character development. Focus on Appa's lost days please!!

    • TripleThreeCubed
      TripleThreeCubed 7 days ago

      Probably because it would take a long time to watch through the entire series. Plus, it’s a show, not a movie.

    • Donielle
      Donielle Month ago +7

      They only very recently started doing shows and I think those will still be few and far between. I think they’ve only done 2 so far.

  • Samantha Angelovich
    Samantha Angelovich Month ago +164

    You guys discussing the fact that your Disney princess crushes remind you of your wives is the most wholesome thing ever 😭

  • Emily Acevedo
    Emily Acevedo Month ago +115

    The older I get and the longer I’m married the more I appreciate Thomas and Duchess’ relationship. I find that scene on the rooftop so romantic!

  • Alphasnowbordergirl
    Alphasnowbordergirl Month ago +78

    i also think its unfair to call Tarzan manipulative for promising the gorillas. He was told (clayton insinuated) that if she saw the gorilla she would stay. So he thought now that she seen them, she would stay. He had not been taught the complexities of human interaction very well and would not understand that just because she saw them that would change her choice. He takes many things at face value with a simpler mindset.

  • Marjorie
    Marjorie Month ago +29

    I used to have a relationship with a boy who came from a completely different culture than I. In his culture, the woman is subservient and I was raised as an independent, western girl with her own wants and wishes. Our economic backgrounds didn't work either. I ended up paying for everything all the time since he would get himself in debt just to give me something nice. Besides that, he was super manically depressed and put all of his struggles in my lap to fix and that was never going to work at all. (note: if you or your partner suffer from mental health issues, please go find a professional to handle it, don't dump it all on your partner)

    • sama
      sama 21 day ago +1

      this is a classic arab man like

  • Julianne Loy
    Julianne Loy Month ago +93

    I know that Bluey isn't a movie, but I seriously would love to see if you two had a Top 5 Best Parenting/Relationship-Building Episode list! Kids are supposed to learn from Bluey, but parents are learning just as much. I also love that it's a series focusing a lot on a father that not only is involved with his children, but his daughters. And he doesn't complain about them constantly! 👍 He actually loves them and nowhere says he wished he had boys. As a girl who also had an older sister, I wish I saw that when I was little. Anyway, stay safe and keep making great videos! 💚

    • Julianne Loy
      Julianne Loy 8 days ago

      @April Hitchcock I agree! Especially Wagon Ride. How many times have you heard a kid relentlessly ask for their parent's attention and the parent just ignores them, or just yells at them in public? It's so sad, and in that episode when Bluey is impatient, Bandit teaches her to get his attention respectfully and I wish every parent could do that.

    • April Hitchcock
      April Hitchcock 9 days ago +1

      Bluey is an AMAZING show. As an “older” parent of young ones (we were in our 30s when we started having children), I absolutely love some of the things Mum and Dad say. Such a great family show that even adults can laugh with and enjoy.

    • Julianne Loy
      Julianne Loy Month ago +8

      @Rebecca Graminski Right! Like Fairly OddParents, Danny Phantom, The Simpsons--they can all be really funny, but they make families seem like they're all unhealthy or that no one is respectful to each other. Your family members should be your best friends, you know? Bluey doesn't even have sibling rivalry! That's huge for cartoons!

    • Rebecca Graminski
      Rebecca Graminski Month ago +14

      Yes! I personally don't know any parents of young kids that don't like Bluey. I love that Bluey portrays respectful parenting instead of snarky kids vs dumb/overly strict adults.

  • perevision
    perevision Month ago +103

    One of my favourite Disney relationships - actually Tarzan’s parents! We literally just see it for a few seconds but like the backstory in Up, they sure do tell a lot in an unbelievably short time.

  • L. G.
    L. G. Month ago +58

    I always kind of got the impression that O'Malley had had bad experiences with humans and that formed his opinions a lot. I always saw the ending as him getting something he needed, too.

  • Kei Leyk
    Kei Leyk 29 days ago +16

    Sometimes I forget you both have partners outside of this because you often give me the married for 30 years couple vibes AND THEN I remember that this is how actualy f*cking friendship looks like and apart from the amazing video I am very thankful to have you both on screen showing everyone that men CAN have very wholesome friendship with each other. I hope you get what I mean...

  • Hannah Rose Walz
    Hannah Rose Walz 18 days ago +4

    This is such an awesome series
    If you guys ever want to rank Harry Potter couples I'd love to see it!

  • TeenTraveler 17
    TeenTraveler 17 Month ago +4

    The alley cat one reminds me a lot of my dad's first family.
    He also genuinely loved them, but sadly, through misunderstandings and outsourced manipulations, it didn't work out in the end.
    And it's been heartbreaking whenever I catch rare moments of him reminiscing what he lost.
    And thankfully, I never took it personally that I wasn't his _first_ kid once I learned about it at two yrs old.
    All I ever wished was for him to be happy.

  • Trina Q
    Trina Q 2 months ago +8547

    Nani and David from "Lilo and Stitch" could also be an Honourable Mention. David clearly has feelings for her, and doesn't rush Nani into anything, knowing how hard it is for her to find a job and raise Lilo. He also treats Lilo like a little sister.

    • Anna Bourbon
      Anna Bourbon Month ago

      @Jennifer Gerry 😭 your comment made me laugh so hard. It has that Mulan's granny vibe all the way. 💀💕

    • Scarlet Nishimoto
      Scarlet Nishimoto Month ago +1

      @RoseOfTheNight4444 he would be her brother in law/legal guardian

    • Damie O
      Damie O Month ago +1

      I disagree, it was not a good relationship for David. It must have been painful for him just lingering and hoping that she notices. Not healthy at all.

    • Kadija Hamad
      Kadija Hamad Month ago +3

      Honestly David, Hercules and Flynn are the epitome of the most amazing Disney men

    • MrFelblood
      MrFelblood Month ago +5

      @Liam Isaac Yeah, it's real tough when your best isn't good enough, especially when you know that kids in institutions usually don't have it good enough either. A lot of desperate parents will take the devil they know, and a lot of social workers will do the same. Trouble is the parent knows their self, and the social worker knows the system. It's a hard thing all around.

  • Akashiachan
    Akashiachan Month ago +36

    LISTEN. re: the little mermaid. what does have to be understood is not just the context of ariel previously having a dream of going up to the surface, but that her decision to trust ursula (and ursula's decision to swoop in and prey on ariel when she did) came DIRECTLY after her father had just absolutely destroyed her secret, sacred place. triton blew up her entire grotto full of things, and it was FULL of things, meaning she had dedicated years of her life to this collection. she has twenty whole thingamabobs and her dad invades her safe space and destroys them. that's scary, that's invasive, and that's a HUGE factor in why she's able to make the decision to abandon everything in the moment. i'm sure your issues also lie in her leaving the sea ultimately in the end, and that's a little more fair, but also, i mean... they aren't dead to her. the merfolk all show up to ariel's wedding at the end of the film, meaning they aren't a secret to be hidden, and eric lives right on the beach, so ariel's family can always visit her. at the end of the day i think ariel always felt alienated by the society she grew up in, and it does make sense to me that she would make the penultimate decision to stay on land, even if she and eric do wind up breaking up, you know? like i think she will still feel more fulfilled with legs on the shore regardless of if they work out.

  • Margaret Schaufele
    Margaret Schaufele Month ago +51

    Thank you for rating Aristocats the best. Growing up it was my favorite movie, just because I love cats! I actually wore out our copy of the videotape, so we got a DVD copy. When I was older and better able to appreciate story and animation and all that, I loved it even more. My dad pointed out that the kittens are named after famous people who were French or associated with France: Marie Antionette is rather obvious, but Berlioz was a famous composer and Toulouse was a famous painter, and they even included those influences in the movie!

  • Claudia Lawdorn
    Claudia Lawdorn Month ago +38

    Can we talk about how Jane and Tarzan's relationship mirrors interracial relationships and mixed race marriages (being a mixed race child myself, especially in the aspect of sacrificing family and your home/previous way of life for your significant other)
    Also please do Sophie and Howl for one of these, especially after the My Neighbor Totoro video

  • Quartz
    Quartz Month ago +45

    What I love about Tiana and Naveen the most is how they both improve each other and themselves. And I think it was summed up best when I met the pair at Disney World years ago and Naveen said to me, 'Do you know how it's true love? She's the only one who can make me wash the dishes.'

  • Gabrielle Duplessis
    Gabrielle Duplessis 2 months ago +1929

    What I loved about Tarzan’s ending is Jane’s father not only gave her his blessing, but stayed with her. You don’t always see that in films. It is always the parent letting go versus deciding to stay.

    • Dog God
      Dog God Month ago +34

      @Mister Muffinut Probably because Lady Tremaine's name is only mentioned once in the Cinderella film, and Grimhilde's name is never mentioned in the film or any other media that has her in it. She's literally only ever called "Evil Queen."

    • Celia Nunn
      Celia Nunn Month ago +28

      @Mister Muffinut While I did know Lady Tremaine's name, I never heard of Queen Grimhilde before. Ive only ever heard her be referred to as "The Queen" or "Evil Queen" (or Regina) So maybe that's why

    • Ohood
      Ohood Month ago +21

      @Jennifer Gerry That would've sucked for Ariel. I'm sure she very much appreciated the distance from him considering he's a terrible parent.

    • Mister Muffinut
      Mister Muffinut Month ago +24

      @Celia Nunn Why does nobody know their names are Lady Tremaine (Cinderella) and Queen Grimhilde (Snow White)

    • Celia Nunn
      Celia Nunn Month ago +39

      @Jennifer Gerry Well I mean that one makes sense as its a physical change, land or sea, it isn't just about a parent holding on or letting go. And honestly, a parent sticking around TOO long (Cinderellas stepmom, The Evil Queen from Snow White etc) can be a negative.

  • fromthelostdays
    fromthelostdays Month ago +16

    If you do another one of these I would love to see where you rank Captain Amelia and Doppler from Treasure Planet (in good part because it makes me happy to see people remember it exists, lol).
    Or platonic relationships, there were a good hunk of their movies near the turn of the century where the focal relationship wasn't romantic, like Jim and Silver from the same movie, or Kuzco and Pacha from Emperor's New Groove, Lilo and Stitch, the two kids from Meet the Robinsons, Bolt and Penny or Bolt and Mittens from Bolt... Or some of the classics like Pinocchio, Dumbo, The Jungle Book, Oliver and Company more between eras.

  • SarahandtheStory
    SarahandtheStory Month ago +6

    I think the one part you guys really missed on Shang and Mulan was the motive behind Shang trying to send Mulan away after they find out she's a woman. He was supposed to kill her, the penalty for what she did was death. He very well could have been trying to send her away for her own good, and the guilt during the parade is knowing that everyone is alive because of Mulan.

  • Beth Garden
    Beth Garden Month ago +7

    Can we also appreciate the fact that from the word "go" Megara was being manipulated by Hades? It was not her decision to deceive Herc; she didn't have a choice. Even then, she stands up to Hades after getting to know Hercules: "I don't care, I'm not going to help you hurt him". And her character growth is amazing - she goes from resenting men because she was so deeply hurt by one to sacrificing her own life to save Hercules.

  • Jack Whittaker
    Jack Whittaker Month ago +113

    Great video, I was in a beautiful marriage before my now ex wife left me, i still love her and most times i cant stop thinking about her, i am doing my very best to get rid of the thought of her, but i just cant, i love her so much, i don't know why i am bring this here for, i cant stop thinking about her.

    • Black Swan
      Black Swan Month ago +3

      @Jack Whittaker make sure it isn’t a scam

    • Jack Whittaker
      Jack Whittaker Month ago

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    • Juande Ruano
      Juande Ruano Month ago

      @Jack Whittaker her name SHELLY RENEE WHITE, she is the best spiritual adviser she helped out in such a difficult situation

    • Jack Whittaker
      Jack Whittaker Month ago

      @Juande Ruano wow, how did you get a spiritual adviser, and how do i reach her?.

    • Juande Ruano
      Juande Ruano Month ago +5

      its always difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation my wife for 12 years left me, i couldnt just let her go i did all i could to get her back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual adviser who helped me bring her back

  • Abbe Winter
    Abbe Winter 2 months ago +1813

    I've always adored The Princess and the Frog because it was one of the first movies in which I personally could ever identify character growth on *both* sides. It wasn't just "Oh, the guy decided he could give up his free wheeling ways," or "The hard working girl realized she had to cut loose once in a while." There was a middle ground that they discovered together. And then you throw in Lotti, who was willing to pass on her dream of marrying a prince so that she could save her friend. There is so much selfless love in this movie, and it remains a favorite of mine to this day.

    • Kelsey Peterson
      Kelsey Peterson Month ago +2

      @reikun86you're welcome. And yeah I mean they were helping her but help doesn't mean do it all for her. Help is just that. Help. Alongside. Not for. And I'm sure there were times when lottie wished she could just swoop in and fix it so Tiana had her restaurant sooner, but she knew tia well enough to know she wouldn't have wanted that.

    • reikun86
      reikun86 Month ago +1

      @Kelsey Peterson Thank you for saying that. It really grinds my gears when people say that Lotte and Big Daddy should’ve gave Tiana the money or bought the mill for her.
      It would negate everything her dad taught her about working for the things in life.

    • Kelsey Peterson
      Kelsey Peterson Month ago +3

      Lottie and Tiana are an awesome example of best friends being there for each other. I agree with one of the other comments in here about lottie having that blue dress just waiting on hand for whenever Tiana would need it. She really was there for Tiana any way she could be. If Tiana hadn't been so determined to do things herself I guarantee you that restaurant would have been open long ago. I've been in both situations myself, being the one down and needing help but not wanting to just let someone else do it all for you, and being the one trying to help and getting the "you can help but I Don't want charity" attitude. They really are a great example of true friendship and I love them for that.

    • Alleee
      Alleee Month ago

      I adore their relationship.

    • A.m P.m
      A.m P.m Month ago +13

      When I tell you it irks me that this movie doesn't get enough praise. Honestly you ask most people why they didn't like the movie and usually the ONLY reason is because she was a frog. That's it.

  • Jane Heyer
    Jane Heyer Month ago +20

    there's something to be said for couples therapy at the very end; it helped me a lot when I was about to leave my ex to have that therapy with him. I was hoping that therapy might help us to communicate some difficult things with each other - tbh, I hoped it would help me to get him to see some things that he seemed unwilling to see. couples therapy helped me to see that the conversation I wanted was a non-starter.

  • OnigiriVal
    OnigiriVal Month ago +13

    The Aristocats is one of my favorite Disney movies, I'm so glad it's up there!!! u< Thank you for all the amazing videos!!!

  • Killer Penguin
    Killer Penguin Month ago +5

    Is it weird to say that I never actually thought of Shang as a romantic partner for Mulan? Even when I was a kid, I just thought of them as a group of guy friends and one happened to be a girl

  • Shipper-Of-Heart
    Shipper-Of-Heart Month ago +15

    Tarzan and Jane are one of my favorite (or even my favorite) Disney couple since their relationship develops over time and, even if its a montage, we get to see it bloom. Most disney couples have the '3 day' trope where they fall in love over a short period of time, but iirc its stated in Tarzan that the group had been in the jungle for several weeks. and the romance wasn't immediate, it started as curious friendship and there was a lot of mutual between them- she showed him human society/reading/writing, etc, and he would show her parts of the jungle (also the look they give one another in the montage where she looks away shyly and he just stares at her is so aaaaaaa)

  • NightTheKitten
    NightTheKitten Month ago +1897

    I love Aristocats so much. I love how even though Thomas is like "Oh shit kids???" for a second he immediately after gets this big grin on his face and starts doting on them, too. And Duchess isn't shamed for being a single mom ONCE throughout the whole movie.

    • ellen scofield
      ellen scofield Month ago +26

      Yeah, it’s definitely more progressive for its time and the owner herself is a happy bachelorette and not pining for a man. It’s too bad my 4 year daughter mover got into the movie 😔

    • Katlyn Dobransky
      Katlyn Dobransky Month ago +46

      @Lore Catan no yeah I totally agree, but I feel like this theme would stand out a lot more if it was about an actual human single mom with children. I think this story’s message is mostly the fact that a single mother can still fall in love with a guy that loves her and her kids equally. I never questioned the fact that she was a single mother as a kid because they’re cats, and I knew that with animals, being a single parent is normal. Ofc changing the cats to humans would make the story really boring for a child, and I still love it non the less. But I feel like the idea of Duchess not being shamed for being a single mom falls flat just because she’s cat. However in all cases, single parents should NEVER be shamed. People change, and sometimes tragic things happen that we cannot control. Which is why I love the Aristocats’ message that some strangers can become family

    • Lore Catan
      Lore Catan Month ago +205

      @Katlyn Dobransky yeah obviously but it's a cat love story depicting human themes for humans to watch. The fact that the "single mom" theme wasn't shown in a negative light still counts for a lot.

    • Katlyn Dobransky
      Katlyn Dobransky Month ago +47

      Their cats though, being a single parent is normal lol

  • Gabrielle Elizabeth
    Gabrielle Elizabeth Month ago +9

    Mulan and Shang are my favorite because they have a relationship built on mutual respect. He doesn’t do a 180 when he finds out she’s a woman he already has a trust and respect but now that feeling can grow in an unexpected way. It’s the best because there was zero chance of romance when they met which means any emotions and impressions are pure and I uninfluenced by lust and romance. I think he’s allowed to feel a little betrayed by the lie but he comes around quickly and sheds an entire cultural norm and bias in less than ten minutes. He approaches the romance after with respect and no expectations. I don’t know I just think they are the gold standard of the Disney princess line up

  • Hannah Bryson
    Hannah Bryson Month ago +14

    Meg and Hercules being compared to Delilah and Samson is hilarious and validates my feelings of that couple exactly.

  • Eva K
    Eva K Month ago +1

    I want to point out how Naveen specifically says as he is practicing his proposal, “I can get a job, maybe two!” This says a LOT about how much he respects Tiana and her desires and dreams. He comes from royalty and could probably win his parents over to get them money, but no. He is excited at the thought of supporting her through genuine hard work, just like she has always done. It shows he is willing to make sacrifices for her and that he now shares her dreams and aspirations. And the best part is that, in the end, they find happiness and a comfortable lifestyle in the middle.

  • _ItzLynn_
    _ItzLynn_ 20 days ago +2

    now that i think about it, mulan and shang's relationship were actually toxic, it was even more so visible in "Mulan 2" where it focused more on their relationship, they always had misunderstandings and it was shown that they didn't have trust for each other, but of course it's disney so in the end, everything works out.

  • Joyful Sorrow
    Joyful Sorrow Month ago +3311

    I love it when cats are portrayed respectfully, well... not as villains. Aristocats is one of those rare stories where I feel cats really get done good. So often they are villified and that hurts.

    • Day
      Day Month ago

      Sorry, kitty.

    • One-One’s Sad Half
      One-One’s Sad Half Month ago

      Additionally, 101 Dalmatians

    • ScarySara93
      ScarySara93 Month ago

      @GunnerSG2 You're a DOG PERSON, aren't you?

    • GunnerSG2
      GunnerSG2 Month ago +1

      But everyone knows that cats are the devil. Then again, the cute cat videos all over the internet indicate otherwise

    • Ametrine Ambrosia
      Ametrine Ambrosia Month ago +4

      As a crazy cat person I feel that hurt deeply. Cats can be such loyal creatures.

  • Taylor C
    Taylor C Month ago +3

    When you gave the initial list I thought “well duchess and Thomas are clearly the most healthy couple here” he immediately is down to sacrifice it all for her kittens 🙌🏻

  • Hard-Boiled
    Hard-Boiled Month ago +2

    I'd love to see a third followup to the Disney Romances. You still have Aurora and Philip from Sleeping Beauty, Robin Hood and Maid Marian, Pongo and Perdita from 101 Dalmatians, Bernard and Bianca from The Rescuers/The Rescuers Down Under, Pocahontas and John Smith or even tackle Anastasia and Dimitri since they're owned by Disney now!

  • Neon Wave
    Neon Wave Month ago +1

    When it comes to conflict of interest, it's one of the reasons long distance relationships don't work out. For example: I met someone online who I got along with very well, totally compatible, but she was never gonna be willing to leave her country or city and I was in the same boat. We each had everything we knew and loved in our respective locations and would see no point in moving to unfamiliar territory. So, I didn't pursue since I knew the outcome.

  • Jessica Ebenhaezer
    Jessica Ebenhaezer Month ago +15

    It would be great if you dissected the family dynamics in “The Haunting of Hill House” or the relationship dynamics in “The Haunting of Bly Manor”! In honor of spooky season :D

  • Isobel Duncan
    Isobel Duncan Month ago +8

    I'd love to see you review Megara's journey because I feel her character is very overlooked. Plus she's Disney only anitheroine which makes her a more interesting character study.

  • Jay Tin
    Jay Tin Month ago +7

    I've been dating a girl for about 6 months now, I love her to pieces! Although, a thought came to my mind, I believe we are in the "honeymoon phase". So I started watching your videos to prepare for when we leave this phase! Thank you so much for making these videos! :D

  • AGirlNamedChester
    AGirlNamedChester Month ago +15

    I love the gratuitous focus on Tarzan and Shang so much. You're doing the Lord's work. 😂
    But also, yes I agree. Thomas is a TOP TIER man.

  • Phoenix
    Phoenix Month ago +1

    You talked about how in Hercules, Aladdin and Mulan the relationship starts with a lie. But Hercules and Aladdin’s respective relationships had started with a lie on the purpose to base their romantic relationship on it, while Mulan lied to be drafted to the military, not to seduce Shang to a romantic relationship. They had created a relationship based on a lie but it was a commander-soldier relationship. Mulan is the first Disney princess movie that didn’t center around romance but around feminism and self worth.

  • GraffitiTurtle
    GraffitiTurtle 2 months ago +1632

    I know Anastasia isn’t technically a Disney movie, but it still has one of my favorite animated couples in it so I’d love it if they talked about them. Or even the movie in general lol

    • Come Nerd with me!
      Come Nerd with me! Month ago +1

      @reikun86 Agreed.

    • reikun86
      reikun86 Month ago +2

      @I am no one John Cusack has a really nice voice. 🥰

    • I am no one
      I am no one Month ago +1

      I’m in love with dimitri
      Like that voice god 😩

    • reikun86
      reikun86 Month ago

      @Merry Christmas It's true. It happened after the Fox merger.

    • Come Nerd with me!
      Come Nerd with me! Month ago

      Technically speaking though with Dimitri scamming Anya into being Anastasia, technically she did it willingly so that she could get the other ride to Paris where she hoped to find her family. Yes I think he should have told her about his actual goal to get the money. Also I'm a little surprised that she doesn't know of his plan since the Grandmother knows and she lives in/around Paris and Anya/Dimitri are from Russia but I agree they would probably be like a mid-higher mid ranking.

  • dolita windo
    dolita windo Month ago +5

    I love that the more animalistic the relationship, the better it was ranked

  • esther589
    esther589 9 days ago

    The Aristocats is one of my favorite Disney movies! Im glad to see it get the love it deserves ❤️❤️ As an adult I definitely appreciate their relationship more but I always viewed this movie as a family coming together in all sorts of ways. It was nice to hear everything put into words.

  • Morrow Morrow
    Morrow Morrow Month ago +9

    It's always a good time when there's new content from Cinema Therapy. Really love and appreciate the work you do. Helps me think more critically about more than I normally would, and better understand what''s healthy and what's unhealthy and why. All delivered in an easy to digest way.

  • Ellary Rose
    Ellary Rose Month ago +5

    I'd love to see you two do a reaction to the movie "Ever After". It's my favorite retelling of the Cinderella story and just such a great movie with wonderful characters. I hope you see this comment! 😊

  • BeautifullyFalling
    BeautifullyFalling Month ago +1636

    Okay but Wall-E and Eve are another great couple for people who come from different worlds (literally lol) but they come together and learn to accept each other. Plus Wall-E is such a sweetie

    • Efeu see
      Efeu see Month ago +1

      they are so cute

    • Cyclonado Thunderclaw
      Cyclonado Thunderclaw Month ago +2

      @JJ's Stikbot Videos They're Disney but they definitely should be in a video!

    • JJ's Stikbot Videos
      JJ's Stikbot Videos Month ago +1

      @Cyclonado Thunderclaw Oh and David and Nani too!! 100%

    • Megan Lynn
      Megan Lynn Month ago +4

      Yasss! They need to include WALL·E and eve in their ranks!

    • Cyclonado Thunderclaw
      Cyclonado Thunderclaw Month ago +29

      ooh have they done a ranking Pixar couples video yet? Because them, Carl and Ellie, Buzz and Jessie, Woody and Jessie, Bob and Helen Parr of course, Colette and Linguini, Lightning McQueen and Sally, and Atta and Flik make for some interesting looks at relationships all 'round! (I think I got all the main relationships in Pixar films?? I guess Violet and Tony count too??)

  • Maëlle Burban
    Maëlle Burban 10 days ago +1

    I stille firmly believe that Bernard and Bianca from The Rescuers are the best couple in Disney animated movies :D I haven't watch Down Under in a hot second so I can't really tell if they keep it that way but in the first movie they're just **chef's kiss** muah ! Sweet and cute and perfect

  • Jamassi
    Jamassi Month ago +4

    Bruh Jane and Tarzan are literally the most underrated couple ever.

  • VMJMW
    VMJMW Month ago +1

    9:05 taking the time to meet someone's perspective after hurting you and being even more mad at them than before it's a magical feeling that I get. It's like reading a book with a protagonist that you don't like: see and understand their perspective yet disagree with their ideals (except for me is more easy to hate a character because real people have more dimensions than that).
    So yeah, that's basically how I work with people.

  • Rune Ru'unkur
    Rune Ru'unkur Month ago +8

    I would love to see yall do a discussion on Little Miss Sunshine. Family dynamics, parents relationship, how they started to where they end up.
    I love all your content and your family videos hit so hard for me

    • Ailsa Ni
      Ailsa Ni Month ago +1

      Could you do American Psycho, I'm actually interested in ASPD side of mental illness, Thank you so much!

  • Sophie Amanda Leiton Toomey

    I think Shang is more compassionate for Mulan and the why in that moment than you give him credit for. The very second Mulan reveals she did all of it to save her Dad, he immediately looks up in shock. Because he gets it. The war took his own father from him and he didn’t even get a chance to try to save him whereas Mulan sacrificed everything to save hers, fully accepting even the possibility of either dying in war or being caught and killed. You can see the conflict on his face as he considers whether or not to go through with the law of killing Mulan which eventually leads to his decision to let her go. There is compassion here even if Shang is putting up a front to keep his pride in tact and his soldiers still under his command. They both loved their fathers so much and as a result, they understood each other.
    Even if Shang is hurt about the deception, he still has to maintain his composure and have no outward compassion to keep pride and not look weak in front of his soldiers.

    • Rebecca GeekyGirl
      Rebecca GeekyGirl Month ago +1

      @Lore Goblin your comment is undervalued, it's gold and i love that detailed description of their relationship

    • Lore Goblin
      Lore Goblin Month ago +7

      @Warrior Maiden Mulan has a hard role in this too, because just by virtue of what she's chosen up to this point, her existence is in opposition to what Shang has chosen to do in his life. by the standards of their society, Mulan was supposed to bring honor to her family by leaning into her prescribed role, and becoming a better woman. instead, she broke the rules at great personal risk and would've ended up dying, sacrificing literally everything she had to give, if it weren't for the fact that it's Shang's call, and Shang identifies with her.
      and Mulan's method worked. she didn't just save her father... she saved all the soldiers on that mountainside, and Shang personally. she literally took an arrow for him, which was what blew her cover in the first place. everybody that Mulan has decided to protect has lived. and that ability was only accessible to her because she was non-compliant. meanwhile, everything Shang has done so far has been an attempt to lean in, and be a better man... and what does he have to show for it? it is really painful, because it critiques conformity as a strategy for achieving your desired ends, and potentially recontextualizes his whole life path as a wrong move. but if that is true... then he needs to know.
      that is the difficult role that Mulan has taken up, just by being who she is. she's the one who makes this difficult truth apparent. and instead of hating her for it... he loves her. of course he's not at liberty to pivot his opinion on her immediately, but you can tell that he wasn't entirely alright with leaving her behind. the other soldiers aren't either. they just won against the Huns, as far as they know, but nobody is celebrating. because the person who deserves the credit for that victory was mercilessly ejected from their midst due to an arbitrary standard that really doesn't feel like it should matter. but it has to... doesn't it?
      well, no, it doesn't. Mulan shows up again, with new information, capable as she's ever been and unwilling to back down. she's still got people to protect, and disrupting the status quo hasn't been a wrong move for her yet. the real question is... can she convince the others to break the mold with her? she can't do this alone... they all became capable together. the confrontation in the mountain wasn't where they used what they'd learned, it's here. the real test starts then, and it mostly hinges on whether Shang can recognize and utilize the skills of one of his best soldiers.
      their relationship goes far beyond romance... honestly, it probably wasn't even a romance until the last couple minutes of the movie. but the relationship that was there is really interesting, and very important for them both.

    • Ladywizard
      Ladywizard Month ago +15

      especially with the blustering pencil pusher that was going to get Shang court martialed for sparing her

    • Ca
      Ca Month ago +44

      I think the law part is very very important. As a high ranked militar, Shang had the duty to kill her, but he didn't; he said it's bc she saved her life, but it's clearly not a difficult choice for him to take (let Mulan alive). So he shows he has values that are more important than just follow the laws of his nation and also that he actually liked her (as a person, not romantically).

    • Devious Nate
      Devious Nate Month ago +8

      Thank you for making this reply so I didn't have to.

  • Ra'Chelle Banks
    Ra'Chelle Banks Month ago +6

    We just watched The Aristocats the other week with our online Classic Musicals Club and I must say, they had a GROWN folks/cats relationship arc. It was a great discussion catalyst.

  • Steven Neiman
    Steven Neiman Month ago

    7:55 When it's done well, I think that AS A PLOT "start the relationship with a lie, then grow past it" works great. A relationship which just starts off functional because both partners are wise and emotionally mature enough to handle it is obviously ideal in real life and can be soothing and pleasant to watch in fiction, but it's generally not intrinsically interesting like one where character flaws, misjudgements, or circumstances force the relationship to start out in a bad place and we can root for the characters to fix it and end the movie at least in a healthy place to start a relationship. My personal favorite version is the one where one partner goes to dramatic lengths trying to impress the other when it's completely unnecessary and counterproductive.
    8:55 honestly, this applies to a lot more than just romantic relationships. I honestly think it's one of the biggest things wrong with American business culture, that patterns of failure are seen as misbehavior to be punished rather than a problem to be solved, which means that often the people who are valued most and therefore promoted to leadership roles aren't people who are qualified or able to improve, they're people who are good at sweeping things under the rug and who refuse to admit that they made a bad call even if it means doubling down and making things worse.
    15:25 The way I'd put it is that a healthy relationship means that all involved should benefit overall. Sure sometimes one partner gets their way and the other has to make a sacrifice, but that should generally be a balance of fairness and optimization, not just one person sacrificing by default. And sacrifice also shouldn't be the focus of a relationship, because if it's actually working most of your interactions should be ones that leave you both happier, with willing and reasonable sacrifices being how you handle the rare cases where that's not feasible.

  • Last Dreamer
    Last Dreamer Month ago +6

    I would say my husband and I have an 'opposite side of the tracks' relationship. In the beginning we always said I was his uptown girl and he was my downtown man 🥰It was something that we both just had to recognize early on that there were going to be parts of each others' worlds that were new to us, and we had to decide whether we would be open to and expand our world or not. It has been the greatest joy of my life being with him.

    • Gentlemanly Geeky
      Gentlemanly Geeky Month ago

      On behalf of Billy Joel:
      🎵 Uptown girl
      She's been living in her uptown world
      I bet she's never had a backstreet guy
      I bet her momma never told her why
      I'm gonna try for an uptown girl
      She's been living in her white-bred world
      As long as anyone with hot blood can
      And now she's looking for a downtown man🎵

  • Kate 2 Create
    Kate 2 Create Month ago +2

    Really like Tom O’Malley and Duchess, they have a charming relationship that isn’t too gushy but not dramatic. The story focuses on the adventure, and through that adventure Duchess enchants Tom while Duchess is smitten by O’Malley. The kittens are a part of the story, not like side characters we see in typical cartoon romance, but active participants. I think Tom shows up roughly 15 minutes in the film, giving Duchess and the kittens time to know the characters and see the problems they face before O’Malley shows up. So we as the audience enjoy Tom and Duchess both individually and see them blossom their relationship naturally, it’s not a forced relationship.
    However, with Tiana and Navine I personally would switch them with Shang and Mulan. Shang and Mulan are interesting in that Shang knew nothing about Mulan as a female till later in the film, but by then he learned to trust Mulan because he unusual methods turned into an asset. He learned to respect her, not because she was a female who potentially could be his bride, but she earned that respect in his eyes. In the meantime, even while trying to portray as a male soldier, Mulan did reach out to Shang to give him support, whether it was encouragement or when he realized he lost his father in the war. Both eventually learned to care about each other, Shang was hesitant to listen to Mulan when she was trying to warn him because she did break his trust. We was coming around to admiring her before it was revealed she was a woman the whole time. Most people validly will be upset when they feel duped. But push comes to shove, when Shang was at his wits end of saving the emperor, Mulan still came through and it likely showed Shang that Mulan is the same even though she is a woman. She gained his trust and admiration back, but in a new context, for the fact that now he knew she was still going to find ways to solve the problems of even though she was a woman. He ends up appreciating her efforts more than the woman who saved China, keep in mind he witnessed her struggle as a soldier. By the end of the movie he was fighting her honor when the annoying documenter was upset that they let a woman fight the enemy. When in the beginning and through out the story, Mulan was trying to find honor for her family, specifically her father. It’s Shang who ends up looking after fighting for Milan’s honor.
    Just personally see more respect from Mulan and Shang than I do with Tiana and Navine, both don’t have chemistry, but the film ends Mulan on a starting path with Shang in their romance. When we see the Princess and the Frog, sure there’s growth, but there seems to be a rushed growth when we got two characters that have little in common. Navine branches out to Tiana’s interests, but what way did Navine help her grow in character? The relationship just doesn’t show balance for personalities that seem to strain when together. Just think the story could have found a different way to help develop their characters while balancing falling in love. Just imo.

  • ChrissyPlus
    ChrissyPlus Month ago +2

    You guys have talked about putting your partner first, but not instead, and how your partner's happiness/needs should be the most important thing to you in a healthy partnership many times! Would you be able to explain what you mean by putting your partner first, versus instead, and what those things may look like? What does healthy self-care and esteem look like when you're putting your partner's needs and happiness ahead of your own? I ask because I've seen people disagree and I've seen people say 'you need to put on your own oxygen mask first' multiple times. This strikes me as a a misunderstanding of what healthy relationships are meant to be, but I can't articulate why. I'd love to see you go more into examples of this idea!

  • Emerald The Robin Hood lover♌

    Suggestions for part 3:
    Lady & Tramp (Lady And The Tramp)
    Milo & Kida (Atlantis: The Lost Empire)
    Robin Hood & Maid Marian (Robin Hood)
    Aurora & Prince Philip (Sleeping Beauty)
    David & Nani (Lilo And Stitch)
    Your welcome!

  • Daulah Iftitah
    Daulah Iftitah Month ago +5

    If "The Princess and the Frog" gets a live-action adaptation, Disney better put New Orleans in full-blown. I've never been there (or any part of the USA land, for that matter), but I definitely want to see it.

  • FantasyAddict95
    FantasyAddict95 Month ago +2

    I still laugh at Naveen casually playing off the vocal sac bit. "That's new." ͡ ° ︶ ͡ °

  • just a smøl tøwn gir
    just a smøl tøwn gir 2 months ago +2013

    YESSSS I’M SO GLAD THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT O’MALLEY AND DUCHESS. Aristocats was one of my favorites as a kid. I have a feeling they’re going to get a good rating because he’s all in, not just for her (even though that would be understandable, duchess is so dreamy), but for the kittens too.

    • lukedalton
      lukedalton Month ago +5

      and the movie must be seen in Italian where he become 'Romeo er mejo del colosseo' (Romeo, the best cat of the Colosseum) with a very thick roman accent

    • Lucia 2060
      Lucia 2060 2 months ago +9

      Their relationship is sooo sweet amd pure, they are adorable

    • Fighting Faerie
      Fighting Faerie 2 months ago +24

      Idk if it’s because I have a stepdad (though I’ve never thought of him that way, he’s just my dad) but I love O’Malley. A guy who isn’t just into a woman, but also falls in love with her kids, and wants to be a father to them. That’s the most romantic shit ever.
      Kinda funny thinking about it. My middle name is Marie so I’ve loved this movie since I was little. I was Marie for Halloween when I was 3 or 4. Then my mom and “step”dad got married when I was 7. And his last name is even Irish too!

    • RedRoseSeptember22
      RedRoseSeptember22 2 months ago +4

      @HexxiDelux Nothing wrong with furries dear, I used to be one as well, just now it's all been corrupted by the current trend and has become a joke.

    • Film Fangirls
      Film Fangirls 2 months ago +14

      I find the animal romances more romantic than the human ones lol like Bernard and Bianca.

  • Amethyst Bennett
    Amethyst Bennett Month ago +1

    DUCHESS AND O'MALLY FOREVER!!! My favorite Disney couple ever!!! Me and my husband are opposite sides of the tracks, so to speak. But we're ten years in and have ended up closer to the poor side (where he grew up). We spent a lot of time early relationship talking about life experiences and visiting each other's childhood haunts. We have a seven-month-old daughter now and are trying to pull on our combined wisdom to be the best parents we can be!!

  • indigowulf
    indigowulf Month ago +1

    Thomas O'Malley was the MAN! Ran across a damsel in distress and her children, takes the time out of his life to not only get them home safe, but also show them a great time and help take their mind off their problems, with zero expectation for anything in return. Then he stepped up even more to help save them again. Duchess is just an angel, sweet and devoted mother. Their love, including the kittens, seems like it develops naturally, with nobody trying to make it happen.

  • April Hitchcock
    April Hitchcock 9 days ago

    Shang and Mulan will always be my favorite. I love that Shang loved “Peng” as a friend, and then loves Mulan too. He sees her for her. It’s a wonderful relationship. Mulan is the best Princess. And Shang is by far the hottest Prince.

  • Trent Hutson
    Trent Hutson Month ago +1

    I had a small millisecond-long panic attack when they said "I know some of you get mad that we have a problem with the Little Mermaid."
    I actually almost thought they were talking about the casting of the new one lol. Thank god they just meant the plot of the original movie itself, which I don't blame them for.
    I'm gonna get bad comments now, aren't I?

  • VidralliaArchives
    VidralliaArchives Month ago +1660

    As someone who adores cats, I always loved Duchess' line of "Oh no no, we mean FAR more to her than that." I would think to myself, "you're damn right."

    • An Error Has Occurred
      An Error Has Occurred Month ago +16

      @Xehanort10 but the money would go to the cat’s _caretaker_ AKA him! All Edgar had to do was wait and he would have gotten the fortune anyway! Duchess can’t exactly take him to court over what he spends the money on 😭💀

    • Dual Kitsune
      Dual Kitsune Month ago +15

      @Xehanort10 to be fair, this is an education issue. No one ever told him cats DON'T have nine lives.

    • Xehanort10
      Xehanort10 Month ago +26

      I can understand Edgar being pissed off though. He worked for the old woman for years but she leaves her money to her cats. Doesn't excuse him trying to kill them though.

    • Katelynn Peters
      Katelynn Peters Month ago +32

      My cat is named Berlioz. Love the aristocats.

    • Giyu's Friend
      Giyu's Friend Month ago +59

      They are most definitely our fur babies

  • Art
    Art 4 days ago

    I totally agree that Dutchess and Thomas O'Malley is a great couple ❤️

  • Ra'Chelle Banks
    Ra'Chelle Banks Month ago +1

    Fabulously done *again*, gentlemen. You all, your insight, your experiences, your reverent levity, your authenticity, and your vulnerability are doing something special and important.
    We appreciate your work.

  • Sara
    Sara Month ago +1

    The Mulan/Shang conversation was very relevant to something going on in my own marriage right now. Thank you.

  • Z byous
    Z byous  Month ago +1

    "Looks that kill" seems like a somewhat decent movie about hard times in a relationship? It's a simple movie and it feels like the writers could've gone into more things that they didn't. But it's still one of my favorites

  • Stacey B
    Stacey B 2 months ago +1205

    Tarzan *was* planning to go to England with Jane first. Situations changed after his gorilla-dad died, so he had to change his mind, but I think it makes her decision a little more equal in context. She knew he was willing to sacrifice everything he knew to stay with her, then he had to sacrifice his future happiness with her to help out at home, so it makes sense for her to be like "you know what, I like this guy, I think it's my turn to give something up".
    ((I also think that her dad immediately deciding to stay in the jungle with them takes away some of the impact of her sacrifice, since she doesn't have to give up her family any more, but she didn't know he was going to do that so it doesn't impact the scale of *her* choice))

    • Michaeljefferson9000
      Michaeljefferson9000 Month ago

      @kalef It's been about three years since I've binged the series (thanks to a lack of availability), but I thought the treehouse was a new one built together in middle the jungle? As far as I recall, they never really leave for that clearing where his Parent's house is. Now I need to re-watch the series again.

    • Stacey B
      Stacey B Month ago +1

      @Lunar Siren I guess he's a gorilla-adoptive father, since he didn't gorilla-marry Kala *after* she adopted Tarzan. Or he's a gorilla-estranged parent, who Tarzan desperately wants to be a father figure.
      I will say, I called him a gorilla-dad to differentiate between Tarzan's human-dad, who we also see die during the movie. Tarzan is a special Disney character, we see three of his parents die during the course of the film. Quite the overachiever.

    • Ashley Horowitz
      Ashley Horowitz Month ago +6

      @Andrew p His life’s work was studying gorillas so it isn’t that much of a stretch for him to stay with his daughter in the place he has always wanted to go around the creatures that he cares about the most and sees his daughter in love and happy with a man who connects them all.

    • Ashley Horowitz
      Ashley Horowitz Month ago +1

      @Lunar Siren *adopted dad

    • Katie Lee
      Katie Lee Month ago +1

      There’s a cartoon series of Tarzan as well, and Jane does live in a Swiss family like treehouse.

  • Brian Spiegel
    Brian Spiegel Month ago +2

    I think you are both good role models for how all men, fathers, and responsible people should be. Keep on going fellas

  • Lara's Castle
    Lara's Castle Month ago

    I'm really happy I watcherd this one. I'm in a relationship with another person of a rich background and for some time it was fine but with the years our econonomic differences have grown and it's beeing challenging. I didn't think to look for counselling but now I believe if we want to keep together and get back on track it is the best start. Thank you for the help!

  • Alice JieYi
    Alice JieYi 16 days ago

    From my pov, Shang was especially hard on Ping from the beginning because ‘he’ is weaker and a lot smaller compared to other males there. If he continues on, chances are he would only end in death so he tries to intimidate him away same as he might to any other ‘weak’ man. (Though leaving would bring utmost dishonor so most would actually choose to die on the battle field instead.)
    And the fact that Shang spared Mulan is actually him understanding her reasons for why she did what she did (though expressed differently) and respecting her for doing so even though it is a crime at the time. What she did at the time was undoubtedly a death sentence and if worse, even her whole family could be involved in the punishment to warn others not to disobey the law. By sparing her and keeping it hush, he is also committing a crime himself.
    As for his response at the capital, yes I do feel like he is just hurt and mad that he was deceived and throwing a slight tantrum, but I find it normal as it’s only human that we feel hurt and need time to process and get over the ‘betrayal’ of others.
    Just my opinion.

  • PRIM Moore
    PRIM Moore Month ago +2

    You might compare Shang discovering the truth about Mulan to "Yentl" when Avigdor learned that Anshel was actually Yentl.

  • Zechariah Judy
    Zechariah Judy 2 months ago +893

    Okay, Romances. But could you relationship rank some parent/child ones? Goofy Movie, Lion King, Maybe Long John Silver and Jim Hawkins from Treasure Planet?

    • K *
      K * Month ago +1

      Would love to see more parent-child relationships/parenting styles, friendship relationships, and even sibling (or step-sibling) relationships as Disney portrays them

    • Maria Cargille
      Maria Cargille Month ago +1

      I would also /love/ to see this!!

    • Eva H
      Eva H 2 months ago

      YESSSS TREASURE PLANETTTTTTTT!!!!

    • Capuchino Sofia
      Capuchino Sofia 2 months ago

      @KryptoFreak405 oh id love to see a Fox n the Hound analysis

    • Capuchino Sofia
      Capuchino Sofia 2 months ago +1

      Yes please!!! More family dynamics!! And also maybe some friendship ones?

  • Olive Nmeso
    Olive Nmeso 17 days ago

    I really loved this video and talking about your wives in relation to your cartoon crushes, I actually learnt a few things from that. Thank you.
    Please can you do more of these? They are so awesome and educative. Thanks a lot

  • Krizzia Perilla
    Krizzia Perilla 24 days ago +1

    “Shirtless Shang covers a multitude of sins. SO MANY” I CAN’T WITH THESE TWO 😂

  • Hunniebare
    Hunniebare Month ago +4

    What I love about Hercules and Meg, is that he has orange hair and wears a red headband and she has red hair and wears an orange headband. It symbolises the fact that they complete each other 🧶🧡🍊🧣

  • letigra86
    letigra86 10 days ago

    My husband is silver spoon and I am of the lower class single mom area. He ended up still loving me. It was super hard and painful for the first few years. It took a lot of arguments, figuring out boundaries, learning habits. Then the day happened. We just, clicked! The willingness to bend for eachother, the willingness to let little things just slide. Man, was that amazing. Here we are now, finally not arguing once every other day. We have a spat or two, but they end so quickly. The only arguments we do have are about raising my babies. Well, our babies, because I still need to release the need to be the only one. He is so up lifting, and never puts me down. He is super amazing in all he does. He is an active father and loves all the kids dearly. He is a great man. Now for me to be willing to let him be a father more. Ever wake up, after years married, and think, "I can't believe how lucky I am" and know, this feeling you had as newlyweds never died? Man... It wasn't easy, but talking, counseling, and learning was very important. All you need is love! With love, you will want to take the steps to succeed. You have to love someone to even want to salvage a dying one, let alone one with 2 completely different points of views. (No, my relationship was not dying it was just a culture and class shock)

  • Jordan Allen
    Jordan Allen Month ago +4

    This was great as usual! Is it possible for ya'll to do a ranking on friendships instead of relationships?

  • TJRune
    TJRune 15 days ago

    The Aristocats was one of the few movies I recall from early childhood. Being hyper active, I would disengage from stories and miss pieces and I'm not sure there were movies that kept me engaged long enough to land until Aristocats, The Fox and the Hound, and Fivel (sp? I was like 4 or 5?) Goes West: An American Journey. I do very much mean I could literally not sit still long enough to not walk away from everything else. To this day, I have still not seen the entirety of the Little Mermaid, or almost any other Disney classic (exception: The Lion King, which also landed enough to watch dozens of times later in life, when I could settle in) But Aristocats was definitely an oddity in my early years.

  • Marcella Brittl
    Marcella Brittl Month ago +1

    Ever since I watched these romantic Disney movies back in my childhood, sometimes I want love & want to be loved for my whole life but now in this real world just became full of cruelty, rejection, cheaters/affairs, etc.... which means it's not like in the Disney romance movies anymore.
    Sometimes I wish I met my true love but then none of them see me cuz of my quiet/shy personality & my condition: Autism.
    I never had a boyfriend for my whole life, some rejected me, left me, disowned me, hurt me, bully me, & unaccepted me for who I am as a shy quiet autistic artist.
    But u know what men are not worth it anyway, the important things in my life is my friends & family who loved me, accepted me & supported me for who I am more.
    I'm happy to be single & enjoy my freedom, my life, my artistic career, my positivity, my friends & my family.

    • onei jike
      onei jike Month ago

      Can you do klaus for Christmas?