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Russian forces are a complete mess but will they learn from their blunders? | Lord Alan West
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- Published on Feb 13, 2023 veröffentlicht
- "It's extraordinary how poorly supported the Russian forces are. Their logistics were a complete mess there's been corruption. They'd been buying bad equipment. They didn't have spares. They didn't have enough ammunition. They had equipment that wasn't properly maintained."
Russia will be learning from their mistakes for their next offensive and Ukraine must be well prepared, Former First Sea, Lord Alan West on Frontline with Lucy Fisher.
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Zelenski is the definition of the right man in the place at the right time.
But folks, send the equipment NOW please. They need it right now. Not in a year....
Ukraine needed this military equipment yesterday! Never let your enemy time to regroup when you have him on the run, and regtretfully Ukraine had to do this because of wishy washy Germans.
Zelensky should have declared neutrality two years ago. Lives would have been saved if he'd done that.
@Johann Johann Russia really did a number on their initial inventory for Ukraine to be begging and be constantly backordered on guns.
I think the frustrations of other NATO countries over the German reluctance to give permission to supply Leopards were building to a pitch where Germany was in grave danger of being cut out as a future supplier to NATO. Also Erdogan's playing both sides and apparently attempting to hinder Finnish and Swedish accession, could lead others to ask "Who is more valuable to NATO - the untrustworthy anti-democratic dictator, or the two committed Scandinavian democracies?"
Turkey is the 2nd most powerful military in NATO, the Scandinavians don’t offer much military, compared to Turkey anyway
@Chez Falcini "anyway"??
@Chez Falcini Not quite true: They offer even more security over the Baltic Sea, and counter Russian troops and aircraft from the Kola Peninsula to Saint Petersburg and Kaliningrad. Before then the Baltic States were always at risk of being overrun.
Finland and Sweden also have good sized militaries with plenty of modern equipment. Combined they're almost a match for Turkey.
Turkey is within its rights to deny membership to Sweden and Finland. Turkey is also the bulwark of NATO's southern flank and in the Black Sea region. Turkey is also very strong militarily. These are all sound reasons for Turkey to be in NATO, but there is another solution to the Turkey problem.
There is no good reason for a new alliance be formed along the similar lines as NATO. Such an alliance could exclude countries such as Turkey and Hungary. It might include all other NATO nations. The very threat of such an alliance could give the Turks and Hungarians to rethink their positions. Such talks could begin now, but first Ukraine must be given enough support to win its war decisively.
The more valuable one to NATO is the one that controls the entrance to the Black Sea, the eastern Mediterranean and the demarcation between Europe and Asia. From either a military or strategic geographical view it isn’t remotely close. Turkey by a mile.
I really enjoy the analysis provided by Times of senior officials and interviewed by insightful journalists. I learn a lot, as a non-European, about the relationships and perspectives there. God bless Great Britain for its faithfulness, leadership and spine-and God bless Ukraine with victory soon.
We must give Ukraine what they need to defeat Russia . They are not only fighting for their own survival but on behalf of European democracy.
Indeed. Anyone in the EU who wants Russia to win or have the sanctions lifted wants to jeopardize his own security.
Thank you Lucy and Lord West. We appreciate everything you do to help Ukraine in their fight for freedom. Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 Glory to the heroes 🙏 🇺🇦
We stand united with Ukraine and the free world 🇬🇧❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦✌️
Great interview, very informative straight to the important points of the war in the Ukraine.very professional reporting.
I agree. It's a pleasure to hear both of them debate this. Much better than the opinionated, politicized claptrap on many channels. Again thank you.
I totally agree with your sentiments.
Russias slightly more tactical than they were at the beginning of this war, but they are heavily reliant on having superior numbers. Eventually russias army will dwindle down, and there human wave attacks will start to have no effect imo, but NATO needs to supply Ukraine with better equipment so that they can launch massive offensives this coming spring, if they take zaporizhia and crimea back this war will end.
There are no human waves.
Whoa, easy there, Patton!
Judging by the avg daily deaths reaching the initial disastrous invasion numbers again, I think it’s safe to say nothing substantial has been learned.
Of course Russia is learning from their mistakes. The problem is that it takes time and experienced personnel to change their military culture from the ground up. Failure to beat them now will not only put them closer to Poland, If not right on the border, but give them the time to train up. NATO will have a much tougher time five or ten years from now. Give Ukraine what they need NOW!!!
They are already on the Polish border - Kaliningrad.
Spot on! The same nuclear threats will apply. Also, see the demands towards NATO from December 2021. Price of stopping dictator always goes up! Poland is key to defeating Ukraine, so chances are Kremlin will try to disrupt it as well. Perhaps they will annex Belarus completely and strike from the north along the border to cut Ukraine off in the future conflict in 10 years time.
I really enjoy the British take on this crisis, thanks for your reporting!
Learn from your mistakes , get real ! unless they go right back to basics and spend a great deal of time and energy on a training area that resembles the actual ground that they are fighting on , which will also require them to rewrite their book on mechanised infantry battle skills , as for their leadership , enough said
Correct. It does not really matter what they do. If the military (and wagner) fighters are depending on undisciplined, untrained civilians, released prisoners, drug addicts etc- nothing they do will matter. We're really in a holding pattern waiting for russia to stop throwing money and people into the fight. I predict that when they run out of bodies to send haphazardly into battle, this will all come to a halt. BTW- many analysts believe that the spring offensive has already begun. They have sped up the process in order to get an advantage before the modern tanks arrive.
@A Rau It is common for countries to show military incompetence in war. It is also common for those that survive this period to develope much higher levels of military skill. Countries that come to mind were this was true in the past include my own Britain but also America and Russia. Consider also the nature of the men so obviously being used as cannon fodder: criminals. 300,000+ men who are a drain on society. Compare that to the Ukrainians who are dying: the flower of the nation. Even if the attrition rate is 2:1 it seems to me it favours Russia.
@Fibber 2U "Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison.
" Henry David Thoreau.
I like Lucy. She is intelligent, imaginative, a thoughtful listener and modest. I know she is not alone among your staff, but I wanted to mention it.
No. Russia has learned nothing new in this century from what they learned in the last century. Their army fights the exact same way today as it did in WWI. That's not an exaggeration, it's a fact.
The entire Russian military is capable of the following tactics: zombie style swarm attacks, carpet bombing territory that is relatively close to the front line, digging trenches and firing missiles at civilian targets.
Russia has enough trouble just keeping the army intact at this point because it can barely feed/supply the men it has on the front let alone hundreds of thousands of new mobiks.
@Shadow banned I love me some divide and conquer.
Not only is Russia fighting like in WW1 / WW2 but they love to reminisce about those glory days as if there's nothing more recent to celebrate (which there isn't so that explains everything)
Thank God the Russian army is such a mess. It's a real blessing.
What's amazing is how the Russians have convinced themselves to this day they single handedly defeated Germany in WW II! And what a bunch of "badasses" they are. It was Ukrainian soldiers that were the "badesses" during the Soviet Union, not Russian troops!
Just a fine and lovely conversation….. I much enjoyed it…. Thank you……
RU has been ramping up production and they have been learning as they go. RU goes into almost every war like this - for the first year they flounder and throw men at the problem but eventually they'll get properly mechanized and then just swarm UA with wave after wave until Putin loses support or the West gets tired.
We can't afford to get tired so a quick end is the only way out of this. Can't get a quick end without new weapons. No matter how you slice it, this war is going to drag on indefinitely unless UA can get the equipment it needs.
This is a war of attrition where Russia has more men than Ukraine and is prepared to squander them in large numbers and has the advantage of bombing Ukrainian cities back to the stone age knowing Ukraine cannot reciprocate. We need to help Ukraine with wholehearted material support now, or else sooner or later or later we will have to support them with more material and men as well. Do it once, do it right and do it quickly!
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Who says Ukraine cannot reciprocate on Russian soil. They can and they should.
@Corey Ham If Ukraine smashed a russia city, like russia has done plenty of times in Ukraine, they could use it as an excuse to use nukes !
The Abrams tank is named after the US General Creighton Abrams former Army Chief of Staff
Who is the Challenger 2 named after?
And the Brad.
LtCol during battle of bulge commanded battalion of Tanks under Patton relieved 101 at Bastogne
@CHAUNCEY GARDNER after Gen. Omar Bradley, once under Patton, then became the Corps Commander on D-Day and the Battle of Normandy and the rest of the war in Europe. Corrections requested.
@Jusk A Husk Mr Challengers son
If they were learning from their blunders they would have learnt it about 10 months ago. In fact they should have learned from the Chechen war. They are so intrenched in this Soviet era doctrine. Yes it worked to defend them from the Germans. But they didn't use the same tactics when they went on the offensive against the Germans. They idolize the defence too much and never give thought to the offence. In the UK we idolize both the defence in the form of the Battle of Britain, and the offence in the form of Operation Overlord.
The Russians took two years and three million KIA/Captured to learn the WW2 lessons. They had approximately 5,000,000 soldiers to Germans roughly 3,000,000 and they had the T-34 coming into combat by the thousands -80,000 in all. They are not going to be learning a lot from their current operations as the officers are hiding behind the lines and the forward troops don't even have a NCO corps.
The UK is frankly awesome.
A great question about the fragility of the Ukrainian advances so far. We must increase the training and the numbers of trained Ukrainian troops. The massed attacks that Russia will unleash, while extremely costly to them, will surely detect and exploit any weaknesses that the Ukraine has. Ukrainian Commander in Chief Zaluzhnyi knows Russian Chief of Staff Gerasimov very well. General Zaluzhnyi also knows and was trained in Russian tactics but has been retraining the Ukrainian army in western methods since 2014. Zaluzhnyi and Gerasimov are a good match like Von Manstein and Zhukov in WWII.
Ukrainian conscripts get 4 weeks training in UK before being sent back.
I think the glide bomb, GLSDB, which is launched from Himars, will be used much sooner than the tanks. Really curious about the JDAM kits announced a few weeks ago...those are dropped at high altitude from fighter jets....wonder if Ukraine can suppress Russian air defense enough to get those fighter jets in proper positions.
they have not even been manufactured yet.
To be delivered within 9 months from placing order. NATO was not interested in this weapon themselves, since they have an air force. It is very precise, but has a small warhead, more like hitting individual widows in the building, good for removing single targets.
@Pavel We will see if it is ever manufactured or delivered. I doubt many can be made. This is an industrial war and to have industries you need abundant materials and abundant cheap energy. We do not have those things in Europe but Russia has them.
We have an air force but how many of our planes are actually operational? I hear most of them are grounded in Europe for lack of parts and maintenance.
@Withnail1969 Energy doesn't matter. What matters is the will to act and decisiveness is lacking in the west. Russia has less than 1% of the NATO GDP, if I am not mistaken. F35 aircraft in Europe have very good combat readiness, 90% or so, but aircraft aren't available to Ukrainians. We need to start shipping adequate amounts of military aid to Ukraine or war will end in stalemate.
@Pavel Energy absolutely matters. Energy is everything. Russia's real economy is much larger than it appears. It has everything it needs to produce energy and weapons. We in Europe will not be able to produce more weapons and ammunition because we do not have the resources to do so. Europe in reality is extremely poor and vulnerable.
I find it interesting that Lord West is surprised Russia hasn't achieved air superiority, but isn't convinced Ukraine needs them to tip the balance in their favour on the grounds that GDAM has been highly effective! "Ukraine must win" he says, but how are they to do that if we wont give them the hardware to accelerate the road to victory?
Very interesting content, well worth listening to.
Glory to Ukraine, you have a great army that hoins up with the people, all in one towards victory. Slava Ukraini!!!
a very insightful and interesting conversation
Stop wasting time. Get the kit the Ukraine Army needs out there, train them up and get cracking. We are wasting the one thing we have not got.. TIME!
We don't have it to give.
Send the phalanx ... rows of phalanx around the cities and power stations and along the border.
Fisher is a good interviewer.
Victory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 🇬🇧
Learn from their mistakes? They haven't "learned" from their mistakes in Georgia or Checnya so far. They just do the same thing over and over again.
And win.
@Dale Crocker Bit different than bombing tents in Syria. And the Chechens bloodied their nose significantly. Also do you consider an 80% loss rate in the Wagner crowd a win? Or 60% of Russian deaths in Donbas being friendly fire?
@Helen McInerney They still win.
Big difference this time, the west not scared of schoolyard bullies. Say no to bullies. In less then a year they lost half if originally controlled area and half their equipment. The second half will go quicker.
Like Putin said from the beginning, "we are watching history being written" just not end as he thought.
Lord West played with a straight bat giving a well-rounded exposition of the West's viewpoint, justly held, I think.
It is rather difficult to at times to believe that class people who hold such a level of self satisfaction will ever be able to respond adequately to a national emergency.
No doubt about it Zelenski is the Ukrainian Churchill. GREAT VIDEO BTW, those were mindful questions.
He hates Indians?
@angrybatarian Rallying a nation
This man’s jowels are a national treasure for the UK, I must say.
Thank you Lucy, and Lord West.
Yes. Excellent interview! Both superbly informed in their own roles, both eloquent and intelligent. Look forward to the next time - and more from Ms Fisher.
@iggle talks are cheap
@Танечка Новчик Yes, you're right. I thoroughly understand that. I was commenting, as I said, on the competence of the two individuals, not on the practical content of their discussion. Generally, I've found Times radio to be a bit lacklustre in terms of interviewers and interviewees.
I like Lucy. She's excellent.
Clueless, you mean.
Russia will improve as time progresses. We have to supply the needed weapons for Ukraine asap. The Russians lost against Germany in 1917 because its armies disintegrated due to home front pressures. We need to counter any improvements in Russia's abilities by squeezing the Russian civilian population until the pips squeak. We cannot allow any third party nation to trade with Russia. Victory and long life to Ukraine.
Hmm, they've had a year, I don't see that much improvement other than having more bodies to throw at the Ukrainian lines.
As to WW1, Norman Stone, in his classic 'The Eastern Front', argues that Russian collapse in 1917 was due to a failure to adapt to rapid industrialisation more than anything else.
This type of stuff takes years, if not decades, to fix. The Ukrainians started this process after Russia's annexation of Crimea so they've had years working at it and they were really no where near being finished when the war started last year.
The harder Russia falls the longer it will take for another wannabe to try absorbing their neighbor.
Russia true definition of insanity 😳
Defending the democratic rights of the people in those four regions gives Russia the moral high ground in this war, Ukraine trying to suppress those democratic rights!
@MrThartofwar Democratic rights....🤣🤣🤣
@MrThartofwar Tellvthat to the UN.
This is a civil war turned international war. It's messy not insane. Maybe you are not capable of understanding it.
The issue is not only going to be the kit arriving in Ukraine for the use of, but manufacturing enough munitions / kit to keep Ukraine supplied. No point UKs reliance on other NATO members doing the job because uk sold its machinery / tooling to the far east? . The UK needs to now 'step up to the plate ' and get producing what's needed. From kit to bullets to shells because if we don't, IMO there is every possibility that Russia might take the areas it contests as its own and THEN at some point Russia knocks on another door. No point providing jets or tanks or guns if we can't keep them supplied with munitions. IMO Car companies now need to diversify and so too do other manufacturers of goods. We might even reduce inflation 🤔
Agreed. New ammunition factories would be a good thing now, and in the future. Even after the war, they can make small arms rounds for the US gun culture, especially since Soviet/Russian ammo is more difficult to find since they banned ammunition from Russia. During the war, make plenty of 5.56 and during peacetime simply change out the dies in the machines to accommodate other calibers like 7.62x39 for sale in the US. If things flare up again, the infrastructure is already in place and they can quickly change the dies back and produce wartime ammunition again.
This war is good for jobs back home and market for old kits
@lajoyalobos2009 5.56 is huge in usa.....civillians will change slowly. i think us military is moving to 6.5
There’s so much.. that is so good in this interview…….
If we were to send jets, I think we should send A10s. I think Ukraine has a target rich environment for which the A10 is perfectly suited for. Furthermore, it just might be a weapon platform that would not likely be used to strike into Russia souvenir territory as opposed to the Euro fighter or the F16 fighter jets.
@Withnail1969 the A10 is extremely battle damage resilient. It's made for this type of environment. But yes, likely a few will be lost. The amount of damage they will do to the opposing forces will far outweigh any losses.
We need to understand that being at the top of the pyramid of creation means that everything we do trickles down the structure, from top to bottom. When it reaches the bottom, the inanimate level of reality, from which everything grows, it changes it. If we ooze ill-will, it creates negative changes throughout the system, which manifest in increasingly extreme climatic and geological events.
In other words, when human relationships go out of balance, everything goes out of balance. When our relations become extreme, everything becomes extreme; when we become violent, everything becomes violent. Each summer, the ramifications of the linkage between our relations and our world become more extreme, until we acknowledge that everything that exists, exists in a connected, hierarchical system and that whoever is at the top determines the state of the rest of the system.
It is not as if previously, we were better people than we are today. It is simply that there were fewer people, and therefore fewer elements that exude ill will.
Also, relationships between people in the past were less toxic than they are today. While there are fewer wars today than ever, the levels of suspicion and alienation between people are skyrocketing, to the point where people can no longer trust their own family members. As a result, wars between countries are rarer than ever, but divorce rates, domestic violence, and violence in the community, are at an all-time high.
Even the internet, which we invented purportedly in order to connect people, is being used to abuse, deceive, and exploit people. The world-wide-web proves that everything we create, we use against others. When there is such a negative element in a system, and that element is at the top of the system, how can the entire system not go awry?
Therefore, if we want the weather to cool, the sea-level to drop, and the storms to subside, we must cool the fire and calm the storms between us. Mutual concern, mutual responsibility, or at least the knowledge that we are dependent on each other, are necessary in order to restore balance in our world at all levels, from the ground we walk on to the hatred in our hearts.
Who says we are at the top? Who says we are created?
If enough in the upper chain of command are gone, maybe they learn... maybe..
It seems that Russia is a little bit GRANDIOUS in thinking and a bit old style in methods.
Not saying that they are not brutal, but any win for them comes at a huge price!
I'd say more like it's ironic that Zalenski has turned from comedian to politician where as many of the world's politicians are f*ckin comedians, or rather they would be if it was funny...
Russia doesn't seem to have learnt very much from its mistakes over the last year.
To change Russian military culture and attitudes will not be easy, it means changing doctrine, changing officer training etc., we'll see but I think it will take a long time.
Mystery Rosebud Indeed, but if it is possible it will take a long time.
Considering that Putin is a great admirer of Stalin, I suspect Russia is incapable of change.
But If Putin goes they may be someone worse than Putin, worse and capable, in which case he, and it probably will be a he, will start to seriously prepare the Russian army.
We have to be aware, I don't want my young grandson, aged five, when he is older having to defend Western Europe if some new Russian nationalist tries this again in the years to come. I want Russia seriously defeated now.
Lord West very good and interviewer exceptional
An International Brigade of Special Forces should be assembled to take out the wagner mercenaries, as they are not Russian troops eliminate them then let the opposing armies get on with it! Just a thought from an ex UK Squady !
lol, I like your thinking.
Can we stop calling it a spring offensive like we've still got time to prepare for it
And he was the first Human to buy a suit it fits everywhere but not on the shoulders! :)
I think it’s an overcoat. Remember it is cold in the UK. He may be cutting back on heating like the rest of the population. Unlike a certain politician heating his stables.
Can we agree that there are two wars in parallel
The landwar, also the war against defenseless civilians using war naval units
Long range missiles to sink those ships
For the life of me, I can't comprehend how each and every British military expert on Times Radio refers to the American main battle tank as "Abrahams." It's ABRAMS. It's named after an actual person, Creighton Abrams, who spearheaded Patton's drive on the Bulge in World War 2 and commanded U.S. forces in Vietnam. ABRAMS, not "Abrahams!!!"
Who is the Challenger 2 named after?
Eengleesh not our first language. We so solly.
@Jusk A Husk duolingo?
🤣🤣🤣
Lord West once offered Michael Gove out for a fight...
I'd have paid good money to watch that.
Ground based anti aircraft missiles is why high speed anti radar missiles were invented. That clears the way for military aircraft
The issue here is that a lot of the S-300/400 sites Russia uses are actually based in Russia and Belarus. In order to destroy or supress those, Ukraine would have to fire into Russia, something they are reluctant to do (for obvious reasons). From what I can see right now, neither side has any kind of air superiority which is why the war has degenerated into a 1914-17 style conflict.
They have been using the HARM missiles but without success.
you need a stealth platform to reach a s300 s400
@Peet Ky Ukrainians have been routinely taking out the S300s with AGM88Ds fired from Mig 29. There are only a few S400s and they are well protected with separate GPS blockers that can each block 4 missiles - The Ukrainians need to swarm any AA systems protected by that blocker - they don't need stealth fighters to take out the S300s or S400s (first S300 was taken out last August)
SLAVA UKRAINI HEROES DEFENDERS OF FREEDOM 🇺🇦✌️
Send The Goods yesterday.....
Since when has Ukraine had democracy do some research.
@CRAIG TOMKINSON Since 1996
@CRAIG TOMKINSON It is a fledging and still very imperfect democracy, but definitely a democracy! The Ukrainian people has demonstrated on several dramatic occasions that it is their will!
And, BTW, how long did any "modern democracy" take to become what it is today? Multiple decades, sometimes a century or two! And how perfect are our western democracies... well... it varies quite a lot, doesn't it?!
Wow, that russian "spring offensive" went over about as well as _"KYIV IN THREE DAYYYYSS!!"_
We need to give Ukraine everything they need ❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🙏
Lord West speaks a lot of sense
What a lovely man👏🏻🇬🇧💛💙
A large group of Russian soldiers in Ukraine are moving down a road when they hear a voice calling from behind a small hill:
"One Ukrainian soldier is better than ten Russians!".
The Russian commander quickly orders 10 of his best men over the hill, whereupon the gunfire breaks out and continues - then silence.
The voice once again calls out "One Ukrainian is better than one hundred Russians".
Furiously, the Russian commander sends his next best 100 troops over the hill and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, then again silence.
The calm Ukrainian voice calls out again: "One Ukrainian is better than one thousand Russians".
The enraged Russian commander musters 1000 fighters and sends them to the other side of the hill. Rifles, machine guns, grenades, rockets and missiles ring out, a terrible battle is being fought...
Then silence.
Eventually one badly wounded Russian fighter crawls back over the hill and his dying words to his commander are: "Stop sending us... it's a trap. There are two of them".
I’m frustrated with how western media and leaders only talk about how much Russia suffered during WW2, which is true. However, Ukraine and Belarus suffered considerably more. That’s the story that should be told. While we’re revisiting WW2 why don’t we hear more about how the west kept the Soviet Union alive during the early part of the war when things were darkest for them.
Pray for warmer weather in Ukraine
We have to help Ukraine win this war, we must send enough weapons for them to win or maybe have the next fight on our doorstep!
Oh oh, it's Lucy! I love ❤️ her. She's the best! HI LUCY!😺. All my Lucy excitement aside, while it's a major war, I believe this war is going to get more out of hand with some surprising destruction that will leave the world shocked.
A wise man one said: "Predictions are very, very difficult. Especially about the future."
What an impressive resume. LOL. This guy…
Wings for Victory!
I am sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling any kind of compassion towards those Russian primitives...
There are a lot of young Russians forced or manipulated by the Kremlin into squandering their lives for a narrow elite. They deserve compassion, even if they also need to be defeated.
Poor you, 2 uni degrees and PhD, I believe, to feel so superior 😤
@Танечка Новчик And what is your PhD on, please?
@A. A. medicine. Thank you, for asking ♥️
@Танечка Новчик How is a Ph.D. in medicine related to feeling superior in the context of a conflict? It might as well be as important as a Ph.D. in philosophy or history... A PhD from a Russian university? That figures...
Germany should provide the really excellent diesel submarine that they manufacture.
USSR lost millions in WW2, not russia. Including millions of Ukrainians.
I'm glad he corrected his resume. That was essential to the conversation! Typical Peer.
Effing ridiculous....
I love people who love themselves 😅
Yes, he is a bit on the pompous side, and is certainly not short of a meal or two.
He’s a “Lord” and not of the rings type either. He wants to drive his pompous sword up your ask!
By all means.
It is so EXTREMELY important to talk about all of his achievements when introduced.
Talk about a man totally full of himself.
He should be proud of his accomplishments, and should be recognized. I want to hear from an expert, not a clever man with an opinion. Brexit was sold to the UK by people who made fun of and ridiculed experts, and now regret listening to "opinions" and not experts.
Th best strategy for Russia is to lose 1,000 men a day until the end of the war. The best strategy for the West is to isolate China, Iran, NK and Russia and double down on support for Ukraine.
Bloody marvelous interview.
Don
It will not take as long as you think to train experienced Ukrainian fighter pilots.
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
Give zelenski an oscar
Ukraine lost more lives per capita during WW2 than Russia, as did Poland. Belarus lost a lot more people per capita.
No, not all wars end in negotiation. These clichés are so pervasive, and come even from military people. Some wars, and important ones, ended in unconditional surrender of the aggressors. WWII, remember that one?
Right now Ukrainians planing to retrain experienced pilots on new jets. So the process will not take a long time. And to use those jets in limited role: high altitude, far from front line just to launch long range precision munitions.
Listen to Brian Berletic on New Atlas channel, he can educate you on systems.
@Richie I can throw you more channels to educate. Take it easy))
US M1A2 tanks are already in transit. Same with the M2A2 Bradly's.
The USSR was not just Russia! It was not Russia alone that won the war. Most people forget that Ukraine contributed with 6 million soldiers!! Thanks to them and thanks to the USA and the other alied they won WW2.
Very few know that USA supplied USSR through the whole WW2 (as they did with UK). Convoys were assembled in the East coast of USA and reached Russia through the sea north of England/Scandinavia.
Germany assembled a fleet (warships and U boots) homed in Narvik (Norway) to intercept the convoys. On the hills around the bay of Narvik still today can be seen the bunkers/flak emplacements used to defend the port from air raids from UK (which was not far away).
That's like complaining when people say Great Britain instead of the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).
We all know what they mean. Don't be a pedant. It's a commonly understood substitution, which in most circumstances causes no element of confusion at all.
@Hookah Smoking Caterpillar It's very much relevant in the current situation. Russia is claiming the USSR WW2 suffering as justification for a war against a people who suffered similarly as part of the USSR.
Your analogy is way off the mark.
@Aw F No, it's not. If you say Russia in the context of WW2 nobody thinks of the 15 republics that comprised the USSR, it's taken as a substitute.
If somebody then tries to translate that usage of Russia for the modern day usage of Russia you point out the deliberate equivocation. But in the context of WW2, Russia and USSR mean the same thing.
@Hookah Smoking Caterpillar Sigh. We're talking about the modern context here, and people who repeat Russian propaganda and ascribe the USSR casualties to Russians and ignore the Ukrainians need to be corrected.
That's like making *me* a general. I won't learn from my blunders because I don't know I'm making blunders.
8:03 did this man just pass wind on camera?
Thank god the Russians tell this man all of their plans then isn't it!
Not all wars end with a political settlement.
some end with genocide
Which is why Ukraine MUST win
Some end with unconditional surrender... WW2
What would a Russian win look like in his opinion? Full occupation of Ukraine? There's no way in the world Russia could fight one of the greatest insurgencies in military history AND attack a NATO member. I don't think Lord West thought that through.
Russia is rather deluded and emotionally driven. I wouldn't hold your breath for rational decision-making.
It was Poland & Ukraine SSR which suffered the highest per capita losses of any nations in WWII, so let's not shed too many tears for Russia.
Rewriting history now.
The UK 14 Challenger 2 MBTs is a political joke. The UK should send at least 87 to fill out 1 Brigade Armored Team. The UK could also add 120 Warrior IFVs to fill out the other side of the Brigade. Some of Canada’s 200 Senators APCs and the UK 1 Regiment Artillery SP will make it a full Anglo Brigade!!!
I really wish the people they interview as military experts would at least know the names of what they're confidently talking about. It's "Abrams", not "Abram Tanks" or "Abrahams".
The So called Great Patriotic War was fought predominately in Ukraine without pause. It hardly touches Ruzzia. The human losses were not just Ruzzian. The Ukrainian people paid the price price for that war together wiith the Belarus with millions in the Soviet military and enormouse human losses.
3:50 he makes a good point about the Russians not using air superiority as a tool should raise some flags how are we sure he would use them en mass at all? I doubt at this point he would throw in the best of what he has into another country. He, in my opinion, needs to keep them for his massive country that looks like a global target now. Just my idiot opinion tho. Ww3 looking spicy. Bunch of old heads yelling at cameras. Fun times yeah? 😒
i like lucy....good interviewer, nice voice.
If you read about the russian performance during ww1 and ww2 you will find the same lack of consern for their own soldiers well being.
Give them 80 himars systems and some ATACMS to go along with the shorter range missiles.
Lucy Fisher sounds like a university radio interviewer. She is shockingly inarticulate and at times just vapid in her responses. Lord West, however, was wise, measured, and eloquent.
I do agree with Lord Wests remarks on the Wagner group long term. Prigozhin is a brute whose glory is in his own power. He has lost his humanity.
They are certainly learning how to lose.