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We do know in the books that ned says he would of died if reed wasn't there
Where's my Ned?
Qhorin halfhand should be in the list. At least honourable mentions.
Lyle Crakehall is literally said by Jaime to be one of like the 4 people in Westeros who could possibly beat him in a fight (the other being the Cleganes and Selmy). Criminal he was left out.
@Alex Kwiatek i agree with your list, just cant put Jaime above Arthur specially since he lost his hand but given time, yes he could've bested Arthur
Barristan Selmy can be pretty much described with a single quote "Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young"
@iianmitchelldub as long as the fight is on ground level, he's unstoppable.
@bigdaddytarkus you think black iron Tarkus would make the list? Some say tarkus slew a giant golem. Some say he slipped on a banana peel that a painted guardian ate earlier in the day.
Reminds me of a factoid. Once in Ancient Greece, an old man was attending a play, and there were no free seats. He picked his way through the rows, but no one was willing to give up their seat for him. Then he came to a row of Spartans, and every single man stood up and offered him their seat. Spartans had the utmost respect for the elderly, because growing old was a tremendous feat in Sparta.
Barristan Selmy is Mike Ehrmantraut of ASOIAF.
I’m glad Ser Pounce has gotten the recognition he deserves.
Yeah but, honorable mention? I don't know.. I'd put Ser Pounce ahead of Loras.
One of my favourite scenes in the show (which is taken straight from the books) is when Ser Barristan is dismissed from the Kingsguard. He is understandably furious and draws his sword, saying “Even now I could cut through the five of you as easy as a dagger cuts cheese.” The whole room goes silent and still. This happens because they know Ser Barristan is right. They KNOW that if he wanted to kill anyone in that room, there would be nothing they could do to stop him. So good!
The look on Joffery's face is priceless, he's shaking like a jelly and may have needed a change of hose afterwards. He's very clearly realizing he could have just died right on the throne.
Then he throws the sword down and says "melt it down and add it to the others." And remember, those are the swords of the kings ENEMIES. He just openly admitted to being Joffreys enemy IN THE THRONE ROOM and walked out untouched because everyone knew he could fuck them all up if he wanted to. Then, (although it happens off page) Barristan kills a bunch of city watchmen armed only with a staff and flees to Essos. Douche and Dumbass did him DIRTY in the show and I'm still pissed about that. He's still alive in the books.
@Brent historically, in The Song of Ice and Fire, the Kingsguard were usually pretty well known for their battle prowess. Most were battle hardened at one point. Very few were taken on due to politics as they had to renounce everything in order to join. The ones that were put there due to some political reason were still great warriors.
@tyson thornton he did immediately. He also had a slight look of "oh sh!t" on his face lol. Outside of the flames, that may have been there only other time he looked like he didn't want a fight at all.
Tywin later scolds Cersei for doing it
Robert Baratheon for me is #1. Guy fought more large-scale battles than everyone else in the list combined as barely a late teen, (won 3 in a day, that's insane) he defeated one of the greatest warriors of his time and then personally crushed the Greyjoy Rebellion like a Lvl. 100 Boss doing side missions. An older, obese, drunk Robert manhandled a prime Jaime Lannister like he was a toddler and he even managed to kill the boar that got him with a puny knife while being pissdrunk and disemboweled. His was the Fury.
@Leo97 I didn’t say rhaegar was bad. Rhaegar beat dayne and barristan in JOUSTING, not swordplay, JOUSTING. He was never on their level with the sword.
@LegendInThaMakin If Rhaegar was that bad it only means Robert wasn't that great as well. Rhaegar beat both Arthur and Barristan in tourniescall him tourney knight all you want, but he injured Robert seriously after that 1 on 1, to the point that Ned had to go to Kingslanding himself.
@J K. Robert was a beast but why is "crushed a Targaryen in single combat" a feat?
Equipped with a breastplate stretcher, he is unstoppable.
@LegendInThaMakin it’s also available on Audible, narrated by Elton John
I'm surprised the Smiling Knight didn't appear at the top, considering that, according to Jaime Lannister, everyone dreamed of killing him. In fact, defeating the Smiling Knight is considered one of Arthur Dayne's greatest feats. Also, in the book, he recounts that he had a long exchange of swords against him, which leaves me with the conclusion that he was very adept at holding Arthur Dayne to the point that his sword would break, basically a bandit that could kill you too easily.
You're forgetting the part where Arthur Dayne allowed him to take a fresh sword
@bait Whoops. I’m an idiot. Yeah for some reason I was think Knight of the Laughing Tree. I honestly think that Tourney story with the Knight of the Laughing Tree would make an excellent pilot episode for a robert’s rebellion series. Such a classical fantasy story.
@CruzaderKnight you are confusing smiling knight with someone else bruhEdit : the knight you are referring to is the knight of the laughing tree. Which was Imo lyanna stark.The smiling knight was like the mountain
Whether the Smiling Knight was a mystical powered Howland Reed, or just a very skilled Lyanna Stark, would mean they both are alive during the rebellion and thus qualify for the list
He chose the time line during and after rebellion
I think you're unfair towards Oberyn. He does "lose" the one fight that we see, but that had nothing to do with fighting prowess. He absolutely dismantles Gregor, and has him at his mercy. He could've easily finished the job if he wanted, but he deliberately delayed the kill in order to extract a confession. A fatal mistake, sure, but that was down to unusual circumstances and not his lack of ability.
agreed completely, he should be one of the best fighters in the show
In a real combat situation oberyn would have struggled as the mountain broke like 2 of his spears I doubt hed have spares in the middle of a battlefield
When Oberyn decides to take the fight mote seriously he downs the mountain quickly and efficiently. He's smiles the whole fight, he knew he could win whenever he wanted
@Sterling Tolman I don't know that it's ever stated that it's cheating to use poison. If it was, surely someone as smart as Tywin would have had the sense to check for poison on the weapons of a man nicknamed "The Red Viper" because of his affinity for poison.
Oberyn cheated with poison, though. “His mercy” was a lie.
Arthur was 100% that good. Jamie doesn't mess around when giving praise and he knows what elites like Selmy are capable of and yet he still puts Arthur above without question.
@Leo97 the source is the books, read it. During the fight with brienne, you read it through Jaimes pov. He said that dayne was physically stronger than him but he himself (jaime) was faster and more skilled and because of that, he could have beaten Arthur Dayne.This is not my take, this is not my opinion, this is just what was written in the books. I didn’t say I agreed with it or disagreed with it, I simply quoted what was written, you’re going to have to argue with Jaime Lannister himself about that, not me.
@LegendInThaMakin Lol! Martin claimed Arthur and Barristanare tied in terms of skills, but Arthur could beat him because of Dawn.Jaime is nowhere near this 2, potential isn't everything, Loras got crazy potential as well but never get to fulfill it, just like Jaime.There are also a lot of knights in Westeros' history who could beatJaime, both Daemon, Ser Duncan the tall,Aegon...Even in Jaime's timeline, he wasn't the best, the Hound and Mountain could beat him and he knew it. He said it himself he won't fight Gregor even with both his hands, he could win, but with one false move, he's gone.
Jaime claimed he could have beaten Arthur dayne though. He says dayne was stronger but that he himself was faster and more skilled.
I think the show handled ned and Howland Reed's fight with Arthur Dayne pretty well honestly. It fits with neds arch and why he is so quiet about the whole affair. Noble myths aside Ned was always going to protect his family, even if it meant an unchivalrous kill
@Josh Windeler he didn't beat him lol. Meeras father stabbed h in the back
@Matthew Burdick agreed. Had he whipped out a blowdart and hit him with a poison dart it would've been ridiculous but understandable. Some trickery or something was required.
@Josh Windeler At one point they list a whole bunch of tricks the crannogmen use in combat, and I was hoping one of those is how Howland beat Arthur Dane. I was hoping it would be a poison dart, personally.
But since he did beat him. How can he be number one when ned isn’t even on the list? Not my number one.
I also think it's a good explanation of how they could beat him when he's basically legendary.
Some other honourable mentions:-Jorah Mormont: fights in Robert's rebellion, then is one of the most recognized warriors during the siege of Pyke, then he wins the tourney at lannisport and after his exile he fights as a sellsword for years. After that comes Dany and all he did for her. -Jason Mallister: A renowned tourney night, like Jorah he did great in the Greyjoy's rebellion (he killed one of Theon's brothers) and even better at the trident, in more recent times he accomplished great results fighting for Robb. -Harras Harlaw: A knight who has a valyrian steel sword, during the taking of the shields he defeats seven men to claim Greyshield. Victarion says he used to thrash him when they were young, but who knows if the same would happen now.-Qhorin Halfhand: Considered a living legend by NW members and wildlings alike, who ventured outside the wall for decades, making it farer than anyone else. When he lost half of his right hand he managed to get as good with his left. -Areo Hotah: Trained with the bearded priests for about a decade, then served as a guard for Mellario and house Martell for the rest of his life, he hasn't done much in the story but he killed a kingsguard without a sweat.
@Compatible with Love i am another country, you listent something knows phone corrector
@Compatible with Love Jon umber os strogest swordsman Alive in westeros
@Arthur Goes I guess you don't either since you can't spell Umber correctly, btw Greatjon is already listed in the video's mentions. 😅
Jon amber is the strogest swordsman in westeros and is not mencioned, the guy dont read the book
Also Jorah killed a dothraki warrior in a single combat
Someone not mentioned here is Cregan Stark. He's regarded by Prince Aemon the Dragoknight (a legendary warrior who should probably be on this list as well) as being the most skilled swordsmen he's ever faced. I'm a little hopeful that we get to see something of him in action in HOTD as he is the current Warden of the North. We'll probably meet him anyway in the first episode of season 2 as Jacaerys is flying to meet him.
Yep n daemon blackfyre is definitely close to arthur with morning blade.
I think Cregan or one of his sons will be invoved. The show is really playing into Aegon's prophecy and that would involve the Starks.
time period: Robert's Rebellion and the main series
The fact that Barristan lived to his 60s is proof alone that he was/is an incredible fighter. The amount of fights and battles he must have survived is incredible.
Kingsguard usually dont die young, they are the last line of protection for the king
Age does take its toll but clearly not enough to hamper Barristan.
@Anatol de Nevers still, he always was respected but nobody called him to be god of war reincarnated, very thing Daemon was. He was unrivaled in jousting, melee and in battle. If not for cowardly move from Bloodraven, Daemon would win the first Blackfyre rebellion an sit on the Iron Throne as a new king.
@Lx Dead Barristan was put in some pretty crazy situations. In the War Of The Ninepenny Kings, he slaughtered his way through the Golden Company and killed Maelys Blackfyre, a man who was strong enough to rip people's heads off and kill a warhorse with a punch. At Duskendale he snuck into the city alone and rescued the King singlehandedly, killing anyone who got in his way and protecting Aerys despite taking an arrow in the back.
@adipsous Dayne has all the hype, but Barristan's list of accomplishments is completely unrivaled. So I agree.
I feel like you should've mentioned that Brienne fought a literal bear with nothing but a short dress and a wooden sword and survived long enough without major wounds till she got rescued
Leonardo Dicaprio could never
Aragorn is 87 years young and was trained by immortal elves (among others) and is incredibly experiencedI find it hard to believe Jaime could be better than him
I think Euron greyjoy deserves an honorable mention as well, purely through inference. The man is a cunning manipulator and capable of immense cruelty, not to mention he braved the doom of Valyria to retrieve a number of artifacts, and nearly every Ironman is afraid of him to the extent that even victarion wouldn't dare try to fight him (though the sorcery might have something to do with that)
Ser Barristan standing in front of the Kingsguard after being excised, insulted, drawing his sword, knowing he could kill them all but staying his hand for his honor's sake... yet still letting them know, "Even now, I could cut through the five of you like carving a damn cake."That has to be the most badass thing ever written. Even if he's not the best fighter, he definitely wins on style.
Even if he could beat all the kingsguard, there were dozens of Lannister soldiers still there, so the odds someone gets him are very high.
One moment I definitely love about the TV series is when Barristan is fired, and he draws his sword. All of the other kings guard, Trant, Blount, Moore, Greenfield, and Oakheart don’t take him that seriously, but Sandor Clegane very cautiously loosens his sword in its sheath, because Clegane knows you don’t mess with Barristan the Bold. When he says he could cut through the five of them like cake, he means it.
The Hound was shitting himself at that moment - like right there and then I feel like he would have rather met Guy Fawks on a night out than be in a scenario where Barristan is coming toward him
@Joseph Conway Dayne lost largely due to loss of plot armor to serve the stories narrative. The stories and legends and personal (anecdotal, but I don't think Barristan is one to lie) account of how skilled Arthur was are pretty astonishing. It makes one thing extremely clear; no one, living or dead likely could hold a candle to Arthur in a duel or even a 2 on 1 with skilled combatants. As someone who grew up in New Orleans and having been jumped a lot as a matter of course, I can assure you; that is simple ***INSANE***. To be able to defensively adapt and press the offense when an opening presents itself against TWO PEOPLE AT ONCE is...well its pretty incredible.TL;DR People seriously don't understand how ridiculously strong the force multiplier (literally lol) is play against you if you are having to fight more than one person at the same time.
Only fire scared Clegane. Grew up with the mountain. And Barristan obviously loses that fight. Even Dayne lost against numbers.
white ppl are so slow on the draw
@Flokoba it isn't, it shows that even the best are only humans. Even Dayne The Sword of Dawn, best swordsman of his era in his prime got killed because someone stabbed him in the back while he was occupied.
Qhorin halfhand deserved an honorable mention based on how John describes him in the books. He lost his sword hand and learned how to fight with his other hand and was still considered the watches most renowned ranger and fighter
Ser Brynden Tully “The Blackfish” in the books and the show he is greatly revered for his feats in battle. Syrio Forel another greatly renowned swordsman, unfortunately he is unarmed and unarmored, and well past his prime the only fight we get to see.
This conversation reminds me of arguments about the greatest wide receiver ever. Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson are likely the most talented ever if looked at in a time capsule, but clearly the greatest was Jerry Rice due to his longevity, consist production, and championships. Or think of Mike Tyson absolutely annihilating his opponents for a few years meanwhile the longevity, level of competition, and resilience of Muhammed Ali easily overshadows him. Is the greatest really who is the deadliest is at their peak (see Jon Jones in MMA), or is it who fought the best for longest (see Mighty Mouse, George St-Pierre, and Khabib), or who accomplished the most (even if they never were actually the very best at any one time - see Daniel Cormier), or is it who left the greatest legacy and trained the next generation most? George is completely right, "the greatest" generally depends on context and circumstances, as it is rare that someone clearly stands above the rest, like Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, or Usain Bolt, and it always takes defeat to forge the very best since they need to learn from their mistakes (even the undefeated have all lost in practice). In the end, the true ultimate warrior is Time, as it eventually defeats us all.
I'd put Ser Pounce slightly behind Ser Barriston. Sure, his fighting record is lacking, but managing to not die to Joffrey? That's really impressive.
"the only time we see Oberyn fight" we actually see him dismantle and humiliate one of the most feared warriors in Westeros. He basically made the Mountain his bitch, just with a spear and a buckler.Meanwhile, we mainly see Gregor shred random nobodies, and most of them shit themselves just at the sight of him regardless.Against competent opponents of great skill -like his bro or Oberyn- that don't get intimidated, he can barely hold his own.
Everyone for dorn can fight even the women. Aegon couldn't even conquer dorn. Arthur dayne was from dorn no one is stronger than him
@Nad Stock but using all skills available to you is part of fighting. He's noted to be an extremely skilled poisoner, utilising that shouldn't take away from his fighting ability, it should add to it. Preparation is a key part of fighting.
@ben1ben2ben1 Not so sure. We know the Mountain was fighting and pillaging all the time, but we don't know any of that about Oberyn. Even if he did train - which is nothing compared to a real fight - how do you prepare to beat someone like Gregor? By finding similar sparring partners? Good luck with that xD
@Anonymous Wombat The Mountain is a better warrior. Oberyn won using tactics that would not work in a battle
@Tj Anderson Its been stated many times The Mountain is shockingly fast for his size
Some honorable mentions that should be on the Top 10- Oberyn Martel was really dangerous with his agility combat skills and venemous weapons. I just lost against the Mountain because of it's proud.- Daemon Targaryen was also a snake at battle he was also very intelligent and sneaky at combat.- Criston Cole was pure warrior. I think I could beat in a good day the top3 listed.
"Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young"That line being said for Barristan the Bold.
It was mentioned in the books that Areo Hotah is one of the best warriors, along with Barristan, Jaime, Cleganes, Victarion and Jhon Umber
No love for Areo Hotah? Kills Arys Oakheart with a SINGLE move. Doran, Oberyn and Darkstar all have reverence for him, and are grateful he serves House Martell loyally. Displays UNCANNY levels of discipline, functioning like some kind of sentinel killing machine that follows orders to the tee. Can't WAIT to see if he's unleashed more in 'TWOW' and 'ATOS' 😁Bonus mentions:- Randyll Tarly. Yeah, we don't 'see' much of him, but he's an infamous fighter with a badass sword. Quorin Halfhand.
This is such a good video concept. You should do top 10 commanders/generals next!
i want a top 10 worst commanders to see Elend Venture.
@TG Lake Hell yea
oohhh, yes!! or top 10 diplomats, schemers, or magicians. lots of comparisons/rankings to be done by one with such a comprehensive understanding of the world.
rob stark won every battle but lost to the horny
Finally ranking I can agree with. (no Arya or Jon etc). Maybe I would add Oberyn in top 5 because he was the second most impressive fighter we had a chance to see in the show (after Dayne). He lost (and died) only because of wanting a confession from Mountain so I would rank him top 5. Otherwise I can not agree more!
Kind of weird Jon was never mentioned considering he is generally regarded as the greatest Sword in the North
Why not pay attention to the video? It says this list is based on the books.
Finally someone said it!!! 👏
@KAAN GÜNHAN Jon Snow in the show is one of the best. Why? Because of Kit Harington, who was the best actor at sword fighting, so they made the character a far better swordsman. They have some minor changes in story because of actors. In the books Jon is still quite young but he is training a lot, he will likely become quite good in the books as well. He thinks to himself that he has to be good enough to wield a blade such as Longclaw.
This vid is about the books only...which is prob why we don't get Arya either
@Chandan Kumar chand This video talking about the books, not shitty show. Whitewalker is a joke anyway, any man with basic swordmanship could defeat them, it is their army that so dangerous
"George says Jaime could beat Aragorn in a fight" Listen, I love GoT, I've read the books multiple times and watched the show 3 times from start to finish as well. But ain't no way in hell is Jaime Lannister, a mere mortal, gonna beat the Dúnedain ranger, heir to the throne of Gondor and Arnor, King of the Dúnedain, descendent of Isildur and Elendil, and one of the greatest and most skilled warriors/swordsmen whose ever lived in any fictional world ever imagined. Maybe when Aragorn was 4, an adult and fully trained Jaime at the height of his strength and power could've won, but past that there just ain't no way bruh. Aragorn is a much, much, much, much better and skilled warrior than Jaime fuckin Lannister ever was, is, or will be. Aragorn at 83 years old is better than Jaime as 30. Aragorn without a sword and armed only with a knife with no armor or utilities could defeat Jaime with his most preferred sword, armor, and 10-15 gold cloaks/Kingsguard with him. That's just a dumb statement by George tbh, and one that I will not be supporting or forgetting, considering he still hasn't finished his series (a much smaller and less detailed series in comparison to Tolkien's) and is actively refusing to even work on the books that he has millions of fans waiting for.
I suspect that a good part of Gregor not seeming to feel pain has to do with him “Taking milk of the poppy as lesser men drink ale.” As I believe Qyburn said.
Qhorin Halfhand has got to be up there somewhere. Already a deadly swordsman, he loses some fingers, trains with the other hand, and is described as even deadlier than before. Armored knights get a lot of credit, as they should, but Qhorin had been warring and fighting in the most inhospitable lands this side of Asshai for decades
@Useless No, he's great at both. He's just better at jousting than fighting
@Christopher Suchy Since when Loras is top tier fighter? He's great lanceman, that's all
@Useless Not true, she did beat Loras in a melee. That puts her in the upper tier
Replace Brienne with Qhorin. She has no impressive feats in books
@retributionpics Jon has speed and is somewhat natural But he is not that experienced , but he will definitely grow to be one of best alive
Yoren Yronwood deserves a mention. Outnumbered 12 to 1 and took an arrow straight through the chest and still manages to kill half the Lannister Soldiers before they took him down.
Good to know that I’m not the only one who felt that the mysterious gravedigger was actually Sandor.
"The Hound then killed Berrick, which can be considered a family tradition at this point."The savagery, the pure savagery.
George RR said without dawn Dayne and Barristan could go either way so there's no definitive answer. They are tied for the best swordsman when they were both alive as stated by George RR himself in a interview. Dayne only wins if he has dawn but without it they are equal.
Oberyn effortlessly beat the Mountain in battle, not a single detail in the entire chapter indicates he even exerted himself in the slightest. After reading the series over a bunch ive got to say its probably the most one sided single combat next to Barristan vs Khraz. He deserves a spot without a doubt off of feats alone.
How lmao he lost
Barristan only beat khrazz because he had armour on and khrazz didn’t. Khrazz’s sword got stuck on the ceiling and Barristan took to chance to cut him open. He was slashing Barristan a lot but couldn’t get through his amour.If things were more even, Barristan would have probably died that day.
He's a Mandalorian, so it's easy for him
In this particular list, Oberyn shares the first place with Arthur Dayne. Since it's all speculation even within the GOT universe, one can never know but Martell is definitely high up there
@Anthonest actually killed Beric twice lol.
I LOVE when Dany is deciding who should fight the Mereenees Knight in single combat and Barristan casually says "I've won more single combats than any man alive, your grace." He isn't bragging, he's just stating fact.You get to see him fight in the books against the pit fighting champion and he just puts on a clinic. "I will eat your heart old man.""Then come" said Barristan the Bold.He wins without taking damage. But it isn't just that, he beats the pit fighter using his experience. He doesn't bother blocking any attacks not aimed at his head, but instead lets the hits harmlessly bounce off his armor while letting the pit fighter get tired and using it as an opportunity to land calculated, highly damaging blows. Douche and Dumbass did him DIRTY in the show. Fuck those guys.
@earl pipe Barristan squired for Belwas as an act, he wanted to get close to Dany and assess her without revealing his identity. Then when he dropped the tired old man act he beat an armed swordsman to death with a stick in like 10 seconds. Belwas is remarkable but Barristan is probably the most accomplished warrior in history.
Strong Belwas was better & Barristan agreed, he even squired for him he was in such awe of his fighting prowess!
@Anatol de Nevers Yeah unfortunately I think it's only going to go through the Targaryen civil war. But I'd love a separate Roberts rebellion show.
@Chris P. Bacon I doubt it. They're still like 150 years away from that. Would be cool to see though.
@Anatol de Nevers We might get it on HotD. I wonder if they'll go all the way to Roberts rebellion.
Jamie is actually N1. Martin says so when he said that in a trial by combat he'd choose either Jamie or Dayne as his champion depending if they are using their own swords or standard swords. He'd choose Dayne if he has the Dawn otherwise he'd choose Jamie. This proves at least to me that Dayne was only stronger when he has Dawn by his side but without it Jamie is the greatest swordsman is the series. The sword Dawn just has magical properties as Martin himself has hinted too many many times. What does it do? Make you faster? Stronger? Simply better? Who knows but it does something to enhance the user as such it makes Dayne the strongest fighter. But Imo Jamie is the better swordsman. Not a fangirl or anything my favourite fighters are the long lost Targaryen's on dragonback. Just going by what Martin has hinted towards. Jamie was so good that for him to remain in the story and not just kill everyone he had to lose his sword hand.
I think, if Drogo had seen how an armoured man fight and pick a blunt weapon like a mace to crush armour or a good short sword or a dagger to cut through the weak points of armour, he could've beaten every one of them except for Arthur Dayne. Huge strength and very agile. Armoured men of Westeros with their heavy ass weapons wouldn't catch and blow a single hit on Drogo. Just like the Mountain couldn't catch Oberyn Martell until Oberyn let his guard off.Arthur Dayne also seemed to be very agile himself so Drogo's agility wouldn't be an advantage.
I lost it at the "Jaime could beat Aragorn in a fight" lmao so random, and shots fired at Tolkien
Oberyn definitely goes above the Mountain in my mind; he had him pretty handily beaten and only died because he needed a confession. He was fighting for that rather than to simply kill and win.
Styles make fights. Oberyn prepared for years to beat The Mountains style. He even used a spear to get more range when he usually used a sword
He won only because he fought with total idiotic guy who never was skilled in duels ,most of regular duel knights would easly killed Oberyn the Bitch
@Speaking Of Being Correct Sure he wanted the confession! That is the main reason! My argument is that he got careless in the end by underestimating that the mountain had some strength left to pull him down and kill him. That misjudgement might be caused by the wine
@Wazzlopio K LMFAO THE fact that so many ppl think Jon snow would be anywhere near this list shows how delusional this fanbase truly is if they like someone.
@Uppi nah. He was cooking the mountain up even while being drunk, he just wanted a confession. That’s why he died.
Bronn is not just one of the best fighters, he's one of the cleverest. Dude doesn't just fight with his hands, he does with his head.Ned Stark is surely good too. Even Jaime requested a match with him.
I really, really wish we had seen more of Gendry and that hammer. we see it twice in the show, I don't even know what's in the books. but the show shows him killing two king's landing guards and then throwing it down to run from whitewalkers.
Strange that you never mentioned Stannis in honorable mentions, his performance at black water was legendary
Anyone else noticed it said Arthur beats Selby specifically with Dawn? I think that implies they are on par and Selby would likely win if they both had standard swords
A TV show of Robert's Rebellion would be amazing.Imagine the storylines: a young, cocky Jamie Lannister, falling for his sister and all the guilt that would bring - offset by his burgeoning skill. A young Robert - played by the actor who portrayed Gendry - bearded and buffed up. A young Ned Stark, with all the ideals, trying to steer Robert right. All the side characters, fleshed out, Arthur Dayne, Barristan Selmy, the Mad King's descent. That would have been the story to make - familiar characters, but its own story.
Would be a horrible idea, we need to focus more on the Hightowers!💚
Not gonna mention Rhaegar
If there's one fucking thing they would do it should be aegons conquest.
@Hypatia Kovalevskaya Sklodowska No, he was a centrist.
Steer Robert right? Was Robert left leaning?
I’m not sure Robert was as generously proportioned as that when he was actually a warrior. Great stuff as usual.
Prince Rhaegor should be on the list, he was known as Arthur Dayne's rival and bested him twice in jousting
Jousting? fancy game for fancy lad. -Slave trader
Daario Naharis deserves a mention I feel, so does Oberyn, Jon and Tormund.
This is based on the books
@Joseph Perez not really, the top 5 warriors in this video would wipe the floor with jon, he's still young and has a lot to learn, there's no way he can stand a chance against prime robert, jaime, selmy and dayne
Finally someone said Jon snow... I think he is easily top 5
Ned fought evenly with Jamie, at arguably Jamie's peak. Up until now Jamie was working under the impression that Ned had defeated Arthur, so he would have been taking the fight very serious. Ned doesn't deserve to be at the top but at least deserved HM, if not 7-10 ranking.
Ned and Jaime never fought, this is about the books
The Jaime vs. Brienne fight leaves them both stunned at how good the other is. While Brienne is realizing that Jamie was handicapped by his long period chained to a wall (and having his wrists chained together during the fight), Jamie is realizing that Brienne had to limit herself mostly to defense and strikes that wouldn't lead to serious injury, as she had sworn an oath to deliver Jamie to King's Landing unharmed.
brienne is not that great in the books, but the woke shit made her the best westeros warrior of all times in the shit series cause shes woman, and woman are stronger.
The Viper and the Mountain. One of my favorite episodes
@Prajjwal Tiwari If you're laughing, you took it in the spirit I intended.👌
@Jesse Jordache 😂😂
I’m very annoyed that we didn’t get to see more (If any) of Jamie’s swordsmanship on the show. Criminally underused.
"Killing Beric seems to be Clegane's tradition at this point" 💀Edit : I am so glad that Ser Pounce is on the honorable mention
I would definitely put Oberyn in top1He always drink before fighting and never lose.That one time he got done is when he is so emotional.Fighting is like a child play for him
I'm really glad to see your channel still have relevance after the Game of Thrones show ended. I always thought you made great videos and would have hated to see your channel die just cause the show was done.
I personally would've put Oberyn toward the top. Regardless of his emotions getting him killed, he effortlessly defeated the mountain.
@Piotr Palonek the spear wasn't pinning him down, it was just stucked.
@Lucas Victer That would never have happened if he was not overconfident about already having won the battle. He might have at least left the spear that was pinning the mountain down. He got his head smashed because he let Mountain do it.
@SRank Outcast After he magically recovered from having a spear shoved into his chest
@SRank Outcast What a gross simplification lmao Howard Reed is a better fighter then Arthur Dayne I guess 🤷
@SRank Outcast So did Arthur Dayne?
I only have the show to go by as I just started reading the books. Based on that, I would've put Brienne a couple spots higher and left Loras off entirely. Brienne handed Loras his ass. I don't really count the fight against Jaime as a win because he had been weak from captivity. She beat Sandor straight up. Not an easy feat at all. And probably one of my favorite fights in the series. But now I really want to know more about the guy that takes shits on fallen opponents!! lol
What about Benjen Stark, a ranger that lives beyond the wall. I think a lot of people forget about him and how skillful he is at swordplay and survival
Jon umber os the best, and was nota mencioned
Same with Qohrin halfhand
History was written by archmaester and people who knows their achievement in Westeros while Benjen lives in the Wall and no one know what he capable of and no one will write achievement about him.
I’d say he’s a great survivalist, warrior, etc But in a 1-1 is very different. The assasins for instance - awesome - but Benjen on a 1-1 is difficult as most of what he’s trained for is behind the scenes, in wildernessA badass - not a top 10
I like how GRRM is just like "Ya he can beat Aragorn." Like dude that's not up to you 😂
@Zelenach Saturn You're tripping, so Jaime is a man isn't he?A skilled swordsman, yes, but has normal physical attributes as any of those men in Westeros. There's magic, there are giants, and there are dragons in GoT, but men are described as the same, some are stronger but they are still men.However, Aragorn is not a normal man, he is a Dúnedain, which makes him a 6'8 Captain America basically. So yeah,Grrm is tripping as well, since he never made Jaime a superhuman but claimed that he would beat Aragorn, which we all know he can't. The comparison is more like saying Batman would beat Spiderman both without equipment, which is ridiculous when you think about it.
@Zelenach Saturn My point is his claim is more opinion then fact. Tolkien could claim the opposite if he were still around.
@King killer the op said that it's not up to GRRM Martin and my point is that GRRM can make Jaime as powerful as superman if he wants to, and I don't think Aragorn can beat superman so yeah its up to him
@King killer yeah that's what my entire point is, making Jaime way more powerful than Aragorn is up to him and he can make Jaime a superhuman if he wants to, not that he'd ever do that though
@Zelenach Saturn First of all, if he makes Jamie omnipotent then the comparison is no longer valid anyway because they belong to different categories.That's like saying Gandalf defeats Ser Arthur Dayne 10 times out of 10.Because ofcourse he does, one's a demigod the other a human. The comparison doesn't make sense.I was talking, as GRR mentioned, specifically in the context of skill level between 2 humans. And in that comparison no one person can be better than the other. Because they belong to different worlds.Jamie could be the best swordsman in all of Westeros and Essos. We still don't if he's better than Aragorn because we don't know what skill level the average swordsman in Middle Earth is at. And vice versa.
10:55 I highly doubt Jaime could beat Aragorn in a 1 on 1. I don’t even think he could beat Boromir. Just pointing out I’m as much a GOT fan as I am a Lotr fan so this isn’t bashing him or anything, I just think Aragorn is possibly the greatest fictional warrior in cinematic history. He’s a descendant of the Dunedain meaning he has expanded life and abnormal strength and skill compared to the average human. He has more experience (190 years of it) and he was trained by the elves. Not to mention he was a Ranger for a while. In the movies he was originally supposed to fight Sauron himself but they replaced him with an armoured troll. Now why Boromir? I think Jaime has more skill with a sword than Boromir, but ultimately it comes down to his durability. Like he took 3 poisoned arrows to the chest and still kept fighting (and killing) the Uruk Hai who are even stronger than average orcs.
“Ser Pounce’s combat record is mixed at best” 😭😭
Nobody ever said Azor Ahai would be the most proficient with the blade.
That was literally the worst, and best part of the video. Well done, sir, well done
GRRM has destroyed all of essos and westeros with his laziness
@Joseph J M Redner unfair, Greebo is no mortal creature, he's a fiend from hell
My top 10 (based on books, not ranking characters from the time of the rebellion because of how little we know about them):10. Loras Tyrell9. Strong Belwas8. Victarion Greyjoy7. Khal Drogo6. Oberyn Martell5. The Mountain4. Brienne of Tarth3. Jaime Lannister2. Barristan Selmy1. The Hound
Considering all the comments of "where is Jon?" here it might be worth to clarify next time that this video is only about the books ^^Nice list tho, but I think Areo Hotah should definitely be included.
While fighting Brienne, Jaime thinks he could beat not only the Mountain and the Hound, but Barristan and Dayne as well. Considering he has a lot of respect for both of them, knew them and knew what they were capable of, and we know Jaime is no fool when it comes to combat so I don't think he's underrating them, I think it's fair to say two-handed Jaime was the GOAT.
What about Ned Stark? He seemingly holds his own fairly well against Jaime in the show. Jaime praises his skill and even punches the Lannister soldier who ends up spoiling the fight by stabbing Ned from behind. That doesn't seem like the soft of thing a man like Jaime would do, had Ned's skill not warranted it.
nothing of that has anything to do with this videothis is about the books
For people wondering why isn't jon snow mentioned its because this is based on the books, the show kinda make jon as the most op warrior (for fan service maybe) while in the books jon is still a young fighter that has potential but would get destroyed by any experienced fighter
@Michael Ayers "(Robb) was a terrific swordsman in his own right"Was he?
@**Zenobia** they made it seem that way by giving him battle scenes... there is no proof that he js the best swordsman, there isn't even proof that Arthur Dayne is the greatest swordsman in the books.I believe Grey worm on the show would destroy Jon on the show thanks to style
@daniel Irl Jon in the show is one of the best. D&D made him one of the best because Kit Harington was the best at doing swordfights.
dang people hate jon wtf, in the tv im watching he's so badass, he teaches and beats everyone. I dont give a fuck about the books, the tv did a great job with his character.
@ben1ben2ben1 They show had the plot arc through Winds of Winter. Season 8 was all D&D as Martin has even now admitted he's rewriting it with a different story. Jon will be reborn amidst salt and smoke just like he did in the battle of Winterfell (when the show shows him crawling out of a sweaty mass of humanity on a firey battlefield) and this time it will mean something.
you're unfair to oberyn. he could have easily beat gregor,he did beat him, gregor just caught him off guard. oberyn was trying to make him confess and was deliberately taking his time to torture him. he could have easily killed gregor.Also no. Jamie wouldn't beat ms granger and aragorn. aragorn is basically geralt with less magic and less experience. and Hermione is... well Hermione. but George saying Jamie as being able to beat them proves that he is dangerous. but no he wouldn't beat them.
The top four I think are spot on. Young Robert was nigh unstoppable. He deserves to be listed with the best.
I love this list. I think Ned deserved honorable mention for surviving the fight with Dayne. Also because he held his own with Jaime and the fight was interrupted before it could conclude.
@Lord Mathis Rowan so ned stark only survives because of reed and we know Arthur dayne was there but we don't know exactly what happened? Plz tell me you are not a detective or a PI
@kckillakrack I have that quote literally in my first comment...but what exactly happened is not known
@Lord Mathis Rowan in the books ned literally says he would of died if reed wasn't there
@Antoine Yes and season 1 isnt the book, that fight never happened or else Ned would be dead AF
@Antoine in Season 1....... has nothing to do with this video. Ned and Jaime never fought and what exactly happened at the Tower of Joy is not knownthis is about the books!
From experience, defeating a group of people is way more skillful than any particular one person no matter how amazing they are.
Something worth mentioning, the Hound unhorsed Jaime at the tourney of the hand. Some additional Honorable mentions that were left out, Lyn Corbray, Balon Swann, Gerold Hightower the white bull, Qhorin Halfhand, Prince Rheagar. The biggest miss of all? Ser Twenty of House Goodmen. He could've kill Arthur Dayne, Baristan, and Jaime all with just his left hand.
@thatdude I agree with your observation on Thoros of Myr. There's also the fact that he was praised by Jaime on the account of the battle of Pyke, and Jaime has no reason to be biased in Thoros' favor. He has also been battling and running in the last couple of Years in the Reach with the Brotherhood Without Banners, which has been having moderate success, I would bet, greatly because of his contributions as a warrior.Thoros probably deserved at least a honorable mention in the video.Now, in your argument about Selmy. You do realize you're giving the grounds for a counter point against Rhaegar being the perpetrador of such wound against Robert, right?Unless you mean to tell there was someone in that battlefield at least as good a warrior as Barristan, then you are accepting the possibility that, in the middle of a battlefield, and this is obvious, there are attacks coming from every directionMeaning Robert's "grave wounds" after the battle of the trident didn't have to be specifically caused by Rhaegar.And besides, I repeat my point: even if said wound was effectively caused by Rhaegar, how "grave" were they really, if they didn't even cause any lasting effects in Robert's life? He kept on battling and hunting for many years after the battle of the Trident. A boar was more harmful to him then Rhaegar.A boar.Rhaegar was a good politician and jouster. Not a good warrior.
I also remember Victarion and Aeron mentioning that Balon Greyjoy was a great fighter and a King they chose. Balon was by no means an easy fighter. You dont get Iron Islands to rally behind you blindly into two wars just by stories.Also Euron.
@Ícaro Corrêa well Robert wasn't with ned after the battle of the trident because of his injury. That's why he took kingslanding without Robert and found his sister without Robert. Also selmy was injured worse than Robert and Ned left his maseter in selmys care when he rode off.
Thoris of Mer is very underrated. Won a lot of melee tournaments. Also was the first across the breach at Pyike with his flaming shord. Jorah morment thought his was the bravest man he had ever seen
@Jacob nice fanfic
Of all the bad closings to plot lines in the show I do believe the hound and the mountain was incredible and a great conclusion to the characters
One thing i wanna add, Jaime is a formidable knight but ain't no way he holds a candle to Aragorn, experience-wise alone. Maybe he'd pull a trick like he did against Rory Cassel, but Aragorn being a ranger surely knows some as well
There’s actually nothing in the books that illustrates The knight of flowers to be exceptional in anything but jousting.
Ned Stark was also known as a great swordsman. Also most in Westeros actually think he beat Arthur Dayne since that story was told to them.
No he wasnt
Oberyn died because he got carried away. His performance in that fight was objectively outstanding. For me, he is easily in top 5.
@When Something Cries Again true - but.. Oberyn deserves his slot in here anyway.Even in the books Gregor did do to Oberyn what he did in the show. So the personal aspect is still there for Oberyn. Also his exploits and skill are clearly shown, even in the fight with Gregor and the legend that follows him.Oberyn in the fight vs the Mountain showcases his skill, he should be in the top 5 - because what you have to look at Is how would the others do against him? Gregor is stronger than the others, and fast for his size as well as his feeling of pain doesn’t hold him back like others (even pre-Robert strong /Zonbie Mountain)… Robert Baratheon/The Hound/Victarion/Brienne/Garlan - these strong style Knights in the top 10 here aren’t as strong right .. their style relies on strength and very close quarter combat - Oberyns style (spear and the classic Dornish speed and cunning) would be the same and they wouldn’t be able to use their physicality & resilienceTo the pain from the slashes and cuts (and poison) of Oberyns spear to be able to break his spear at all.. so Oberyn (imo) beats them and therefore should be placed on the listNow, how he fares against the rest is tough due to their speed but more importantly their battle IQ, Jaime.. young and maybe not as battle hardened however it would be close, Barristan I think may do it and Arthur with Dawn likely does too .. So even though the books he doesn’t get beaten the same way, his skills still rely on him to be above most of these on the list
Easily - I feel he would only be behind the smarter knights - Arthur, Barristan. Possibly Jaime (although he’s another cocky soab) .. in that his mentality and attitude may let him down BUT saying that he only let himself get carried away because of WHO it was and more so he wasn’t just fighting the mountain he was fighting Tyrell too
@King and yet he underestimate his opponent. Being drunk. Not use helmet. Then dies.
@hellatze if you don't think you'd get emotional about fighting a guy who raped and murdered your sister and her kids then you're lying to yourself. anyone that wouldn't get emotional under those circumstances is either a sociopath or a badly written character. he didn't fail at anything. he was just being as human as the rest of us.
Mountain was a walk in the park for him. Definitely top 5
I think as an honorable mention people are forgetting karl. He was the best paid killer in flea bottom and even the other rangers say he hasn’t lost a fight since he was nine then again he may have chosen his fights carefully
The scene with sir Arthur Dayne is my favorite sword fight off all time. Next to Tory’s Achilles fight scene.
With the entire premise of the story being fairytales are bs, the greatest knight ever being named Arthur, with a special sword from a special rock, being killed by two subpar warriors by a knife to the back of the neck is very on point. Viewing the past with rose tinted glasses is what basically every single person in the story is guilty of and those who died in that supposedly gilded age escape reality and move into the realm of myth and legend beyond whatever they truly were.
I never heard of game of thrones before the show so even though they completely ruined the ending I'm glad they did the show. But what I think it was one of the greatest shows I've ever seen at least for the first 6 seasons, by the last one it became the most horrible ending I've ever seen by far. Now I want to read the books to know more about the story. I do think Oberyn has to be on the list considering how easy he managed to defeat the Mountain before he let his pity and rage ruin him.
I just wanna give a shout out to you for singlehandedly maintaining my interest in this series even after the massive deflation I felt after season 8. I still hope one day that he'll finish ASOIAF just because your videos remind me of what I loved about them in the first place.
Absolutely. Watching this video made me nostalgic for a time of about a decade ago when I was enamored by this series and the beautifully crafted world that GRRM made. I fear that all the many plots and intrigue are too much for him to resolve in a satisfactory way, even if he even tries.
@X V eh. Dunes books at least all had endings
Agreed. If he finishes the whole series i will read the books but im not starting another series that doesnt get finished (looking at you dune)
Absolutely, I've just discovered this channel and I've been bingeing all the old videos. Also, if Alt Shift X had written the last two season we wouldn't be here mourning 🥲
Never gonna finish and he has stated won't even do a WoT and let another author finish them (Sanderson would crush GoT I bet)The hate is so far with me that I am literally saving up to fly to New Mexico if GRRM passed before finishing and then pulls Strong Belwas on his grave. Dying before finishing is one thing, but dude has been on so many other projects it's hard to argue he even cares. Screw ASOIAF, go read Stormlight Archives
Thanks for including Ser Pounce here, even as an honorable mentionHe does not get enough recognition
Was surprised to see Baratheon that low on the list, then with every new member i found myself saying “oh yes, ofc, he was way better”. Great list.I remember Ser Barristan described as “one man army” in some occasion, can remember if that’s true or was my own conclusion.
For all Jaime’s accolades in the books the show portrays him incredibly mid. The Hound loses to Brienne, how can he be better? Oberyn?
Even if he died early in HOTD, remember that Harwin Strong was the strongest knight in all of the 7 kingdoms at his time. He just died in a fire while being stuck in his castle. Imagine what he could've been if that never happened
Criston Cole is the strongest during that time bruh, he beat Harwin's ass so bad in a tourney that everyone started calling him Brokenbones 😭😭
Friendly reminder that he gets completely annihilated in a tourney by Criston Cole, leading to him being called "Brokenbones" instead of "Breakbones"Considering also the respect as a fighter he earns from his opponents during the Dance it would be very fair to call Criston the greatest knight of his time (in regards to fighting prowess of course, chivalry Not so much).The only people with a similar infamy to him would be the psychopaths Daemon and Aemond, and even they often relied on their dragons.
strongest or most skilled?
>Doesn’t put Oberyn on the list because he died in the only battle we saw him fight. *Has Authur Dayne as #1*
@ben1ben2ben1 yeah no one says anything close to indicating oberyn to even be important as a warrior, he’s just “good”, and he’s really really cool for one scene
Enough people have talked about Dayne being the greatest thats its safe to assume he is the greatest. Oberyn is not talked about by the characters in nearly the same level
@jazz I'm sorry that everyone else thinks it is evident and mostly disagree with you as a result. Only in your head does pointing out that The Mountain probably loses to other skilled fighters in the same scenario contradict my point that Viper > Mountain. Perhaps it contradicts the notion that Gregor is actually that high on the list but not the assertion that Viper > Mountain. Would that mean that beating the Mountain with such a tactic is less impressive and doesn't warrant a top 10 mention? Perhaps but still Viper > Mountain.Asked for a direct quote in which it is explicitly said that Gregor IS better than Viper - no direct quote provided. In no way is a tactical retreat (backward flight) contradictory to a fighter with more endurance trying to tire out a bigger/stronger fighter - that's exactly what it looks like. The tactical fighter moves sideways (looks like in a circle around the other fighter), keeping distance and waiting for an opportunistic counterpunch as they gain the upper hand as the match goes on. The fact that you thought it was "contradictory" just shows that you don't really understand the dynamics here and are only really leaning on the fact that Gregor won no matter what the circumstances. The fact that you take this effective tactic as a negative invalidates your opinion. Would you have rather Oberyn charged and been on the offensive from the jump? That's stupid.Another thing you take against the Viper is the fact that he was able to take advantage of a brief moment wherein the sun was in the Mountain's eyes - a quick, cunning move executed within a flash in time. What? That's a great combination of speed, quick-thinking, adaptability, patience, etc. right there. All attributes useful to a warrior. None of which, btw, the Mountain has.
@Cato the Elder I don’t think any of them do anything for this question.
@El Stark Where, what? 117 replies.
I love that top 3 are Kingsguard who are meant to be the greatest knights and warriors in the land. Mad King might of had the best line up there ever was in westeros or one of the best for sure. Even with Hotd I don't see the list changing much. Top 4 would stay the same I think.
More honorable mentions: Greyworm, Dario Naharis, Lord Commander Gerold Hightower, Ser Balon Swan, The Bravosi waterdancer that schooled Jorah Mormont in Mereen.
My favourite fighter is Syrio Forel, the first sword of Braavos and no one will change my mind.
Bron was dangerous and underrated because of his assassin nature. Him and Arya are dangerous based on those skills alone.
I'm almost certain that it's mentioned that Oberyn has beaten both Tyrells in tourneys. He's also been to several fighting pits in Essos and him still breathing before the Mountain means he's won all of them. It could be argued that based on pure skill demonstrated against Gregor, he absolutely out classed the mountain and his demise had more to do with bad luck and circumstance. Hell, he by all means killed the mountain which is why Qybern had to reanimate Gregor in the first place. And details of his genius and reputation as a warrior are not just expressed through his own skills, but also that of his offspring and sell swordsmen who owe all there skills to his training. The top 3 I agree, but Oberyn should of been number 4 and the fact he's not even on here was really disappointing.
Bringing a poisoned spear to a duel is like bringing a gun to a knife fight.
@okdok gg he also got him around the armpit and was bleeding very badly frim that 1 thrust alone he could have just let him bleed out no need to finish him he couldnt even stand up at the end he had already won lol
@okdok gg Oberyn pinned Gregor to the floor with his spear in the novel. If you consider having a spear thrust through you into the floor a mosquito bite...I dunno what to say...
He’s right around Robert Baratheon imo. Robert seems like a less freakishly strong but more skilled version of Gregor. Oberyn probably would give him a great fight.
@okdok gg this is a discussion though I believe about the books, in the book The fight was not even competitive. He also had the spear shoved through his stomach and out his back and pinned him to the ground!!! But we all know how it ended for the red viper!!
I think case could be made for Arya based on S6-8, she spars Brienne to a draw and she’s still very young at that point
Really wished we got to see Jamie actually be a great fighter in the show. He barely could take Ned who's known to be a decent but not great fighter. 🤷
Ser Meryn Trant. When he faced barristan, jaime, dayne, at once he thought it was too easy by simply said "Too old"
Greatjon was also able to fight off multiple men whilst drunk (the only way the Freys could have been captured him was if he was) during the red wedding. Hell, I’d say he could beat Garlan.
I think I'd cut out Loras, Victarion and possibly Brienne or Garlan to fit in:- Oberyn (who beat a top 10 guy fair and square)- Bronn (who is just ruthless and skilled and seems capable of matching many of the top 10)- Drogo (who even if unarmored would likely pose a threat to any top 10).
@Hannes Hartmann Qhorin Halfhand is probably the best the Night's Watch has to offer, he's pretty badass.
@Trepur349 That was jousting though, I think that's pretty different than a sword fight.
@Lucas Gueiros True, but to be fair the guy who fought Barristan lost to arguably the greatest warrior who ever lived.
Drogo could be in the top 10 if he wore armour. Based purely on combat skill, he might be there.
Bronn - NEVER.Drogo - NO...Oberyn is a top 5 in the books.
"Victarion fears nothing, he uses heavy plate armor..." I mean, he fear being wounded
I think #10 would be able to beat #9 almost every time. Just punch him with his power fist and you win.
Oberyn is an absolute beast, he is def. In the top 10.Dorne is the only kingdom that resisted the dragons, we forget this too often.