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The Mandela Catalogue Vol.4

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  • Alex Kister
    Alex Kister  2 months ago +5073

    GABRIEL VINYL FIGURE ONLY AVAILABLE UNTIL DECEMBER 17TH !!!!!
    www.makeship.com/products/gabriel-vinyl-figure
    thank you guys for watching, hope you all enjoyed!! really poured my soul into this one :)

    • Songbird
      Songbird 23 days ago

      Yes. Also the Face cam reminded me of the creepy nintendo face camera game that would have distorted faces and captions like 'who are you running from?'. Its bringing back alot of nostalgic childhood horror from back in the day.

    • Shadow234 RJ
      Shadow234 RJ 26 days ago

      Nothing is worth the risk

    • # " day of hell~
      # " day of hell~ 27 days ago

      @TwoFountain he uses cameras and action

    • # " day of hell~
      # " day of hell~ 27 days ago

      @Samantha Wagner yeh

    • Gabriel Kubiski
      Gabriel Kubiski 29 days ago

      ok

  • Wychwood Music
    Wychwood Music Month ago +5312

    The most unrealistic part of this entire series is where a police officer has facial piercings and an emo haircut

    • Ryan Flinn
      Ryan Flinn Day ago

      @Jorge Carrillo that's true actually

    • Facundoun
      Facundoun 2 days ago

      True, but if I'm being honest Teenage Disaster has been one of the greatest things in this ARG

    • Therealqueenbibble
      Therealqueenbibble 4 days ago

      Now i get it😭

    • a cat and a cat
      a cat and a cat 5 days ago

      Only in Detroit

    • DIBSHIT
      DIBSHIT 5 days ago

      but he's so fine ngl

  • ꧁ꂵꀤꌚꌚꌈꀤꋖ꧂

    For people who don't like "Gabriel's" new voice, that voice isn't theirs, it's that of the pastor who called dave. The tts voice is still there and most likely it is his real voice. After all, "Gabriel" is the first alternative.

    • CreeperSammyB !
      CreeperSammyB ! 5 days ago

      okay but like honestly, the pastor's voice fits him pretty damn well lmao

    • crimsonngb
      crimsonngb 5 days ago +1

      He’s not just the first alternate, he’s Satan himself

    • Platinum Six
      Platinum Six 13 days ago +4

      I don’t really think that’s the case. They share a voice actor, but O’Brien was Gabriel in disguise anyway.
      When Gabriel revealed himself he stopped pretending to be O’Brien, and you can even hear that he stops having a southern accent. I think that is his actual voice and that O’Brien’s voice was fabricated.

    • ☆joyless☆
      ☆joyless☆ 16 days ago +4

      low-key I really like this Gabriel's voice ngl

    • Nix
      Nix 24 days ago +2

      Dang imma be honest I kinda wanted it to be his voice

  • PussMaster119
    PussMaster119 Month ago +1688

    I know this is supposed to be scary, but I was giggling the entire time Adam was like "dude it really sucks that Jonah's gone buuuuut i got this sick ass footage bro" and Sarah is just like "wtf bro" and then she hits him with the "this is why your girl left you" funny as hell

    • Capybara
      Capybara 15 hours ago

      @PussMaster119 Bro? 🗿

    • Facundoun
      Facundoun 2 days ago +1

      She should have hitted him with a big ol' "that's why yo momma Dead"

    • Mischievious Jirachi
      Mischievious Jirachi 3 days ago

      @Danifirer Ke ase 💀

    • MAR5UA1
      MAR5UA1 8 days ago

      @TundraTheNumberblocc "thats why yo mama dead"

    • Shadow234 RJ
      Shadow234 RJ 26 days ago +7

      Bro got roasted

  • MultiZernez
    MultiZernez Month ago +2719

    Dave’s death scene is the most unintentionally funny thing I’ve seen so far, the fact that he’s dead but he looks absolutely baller while laying there

  • Protagonistical
    Protagonistical Month ago +242

    Ngl, 16:40 scared the absolute bejesus out of me. This, this is just one of the many reasons why I like this channel. No lead-up. No intense music. Just the intense feeling of deep wrongness and pervasive dread. This is a moment taken from someone's private life, a moment that no one should see. But someone is watching. Half-hidden and entirely a violation. This by itself is horrifying enough. But then I remembered something from my film studies classes as I sat down to write all this; the purpose of a camera is to act as an eye, and our role is to function as silent witnesses. We are privy to situations and scenes that the normal person would never experience; we know more about the characters we see than anyone else behind the screen.
    More relevantly, we are voyeurs in the truest sense; voyeur, or "one who sees." But also, we are voyeurs in the basest sense as well. We derive pleasure from watching, albeit not the kind that voyeurs are most known for, but pleasure nonetheless; you can't tell me you don't enjoy watching things on screens, because this is literally a Clip-Share comment section. And this, this right here is a big part of the reason why this moment is so terrifying. Not only is there an unwanted spectator to someone's private life, WE are unwanted spectators as well. There are two, or technically over 1 million (as of the time of this comment) if you want to make this a global experience instead of a personal one, lookers. We, watchers through the camera, see this figure in the shadows who is acting out the reality of what we are doing. They are us. And we are NOT supposed to be there. We're here, but we see someone, or something, very much like us and acting in the same role as us -- a witness. And because of this, there's this awareness in your subconscious of a subtle recognition, and it just feels incredibly wrong. As it should; we're looking at a facsimile of human life, a personification of uncanny valley.
    But that's not the whole reason why. You see, up until this point in the video, you had no problem with watching. You were fine, or perhaps even more than fine, watching Thatcher undress and get into his bed. Despite it being a gross violation of privacy, you didn't care; it didn't occur to you to care. And why would it? It's not like Thatcher is real. You are enabled and protected by the camera; the camera, with its ability to peer into limitless facets of its subjective reality, gives you distance. You are not the one in control, you are getting your experiences secondhand. Thus, distance.
    And then you see a reflection of you. A figurative and literal voyeur. Unseen and intent, and something approaching ravenous. And that jolt of unpleasantness jerks you from your comforting insulation. No longer is your passivity a shield, it is a restriction. In the vaguest of ways, you are now aware of how much your situation has in common with Thatcher. You are both powerless, only you are aware of your helplessness. You cannot alert Thatcher, if you should feel so inclined. You have no impact and you are less than nothing. In fact, you are now cognizant of the possibility that you, like Thatcher, are just unaware of your spectators and could very much be in the same position as him.
    I don't know if any of this is intentional, or if Alex just intuited into the perfect way to creep out a viewer, or if I'm just reading too deeply into things as per usual. Anyway, sorry for the essay. Actually, if I was still in school, I'd probably write an essay about this channel. I'm surprised this idea is now just occurring to me; I'll have to rewatch everything and look for how the theme of surveillance and watching is treated, since it's been a while since I watched the early videos.
    TL;DR Alex Kister is a genius, 16:40 is basically looking at a mirror through another mirror except each reflection is more nightmarish than the last, and I now would like my skin to stop trying to crawl out of itself now thanks.

    • Protagonistical
      Protagonistical 14 days ago

      @Paintball's second channel What I wrote was a reflection on the nature of the watcher, dissecting how and why it works to scare us on a fundamental level. I went into why, not only the person in the closet is creepy, but why the whole scene is creepy. But I'm not sure you actually read it, or even skimmed it. Because I already apologized for the 'essay' and made a TL;DR at the bottom for people who wanted a quick summary.
      And, I'm sorry, but taking five paragraphs to dissect a scene isn't all that impressive in a college-level film class. In a field where you literally look at camera angles as giving insight into a deeper meaning, writing five to ten pages per film is about average.

    • Paintball's second channel
      Paintball's second channel 14 days ago

      If you need to write 5 paragraphs about something as simple as that, then your looking way too deep into this. No clue how more than 2 paragraphs can be made about someone in a closet

    • Protagonistical
      Protagonistical 15 days ago

      @ImNotZero College gave me a lot of practice. 5-6 paragraphs?? Child's play. And time. It took maybe a half an hour to an hour to write this, but I had to get my thoughts out there; the idea was too good not for other people to see. And if you get MADS in the process, well, that's just too bad. :)

    • Clair
      Clair 15 days ago

      Crazy to me how many people are bragging about poor attention/reading comprehension down here

    • StarryAnim
      StarryAnim 15 days ago +1

      aint readin allat 🤣 but we 🆙️ 💯

  • Kwite
    Kwite 2 months ago +12304

    blown away by you again man. always a moment for me when these come out

    • Seeker01
      Seeker01 2 days ago

      hi kwite you posted your ass o n twitter

    • Shay-nonymous
      Shay-nonymous 2 months ago +1

      Hello there

    • James R
      James R 2 months ago +1

      🐟

    • Isabelle Dryden
      Isabelle Dryden 2 months ago +1

      OUT OF ALL THE Clip-ShareRS I LIKE.I SEE YOU IN A COMMENT SECTION THAT I WOULDN'T EXPECT

    • Lapetus
      Lapetus 2 months ago

      Oh hi Kwiteee

  • E.B. Pygmy
    E.B. Pygmy Month ago +82

    37:54
    "The flicker of the TV illuminated this bedroom.
    Drowning out the darkness with his favorite programs.
    Do you remember how we became friends? The light scared off all the monsters, it kept him safe.
    Do you remember my face? With contorted flesh and broken bones, I made myself known.
    Do you remember my touch? I cradled him in my arms. My sweet boy. I took him away.
    Do you remember that night, Murray?
    When you stare into the mirror, you see the same monsters from your bedroom, don't you?
    But your skin is not your own.
    You're not the real you."

  • gabrielsemipro ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    This was... a great production, but underwhelming compared to the rest of the series, as in, it's very different, in a way, a jpeg shouldn't be scarier than this, but the context with the pictures just made my mind go ways. This one is great, but... yeah.

  • DkTs JB
    DkTs JB Month ago +28

    The most fascinating thing for me truly was both 3D alternates, such a amazing work of art.. But i can't stop thinking about how Gabriel voice changes simply by the fact that he's mimicking humans, the fact that he sounds outrageous just made it a lot more creepier, specially when put into thought how low this "being" looks upon humanity itself..
    Brilliant, brilliant work Alex!! This 4 vol. connecting all the dots from previous ones is really starting to build a horror masterpiece and possibly a new trendy horror genre.
    I haven't felt like this since the early days of FNAF, the illusive "creatures" along with the story and all the different archetypes behind it, i just can't get enough of this!!
    * Personal opinion *
    The " Mandela Catalogue " franchise, SCREAAAMS for a horror game, has literally all the perfect elements for a new horror experience.

  • CrimsonCreation - Animation Gaming Music and More

    I feel like people don’t appreciate the face studio 2 scene enough, it fits right in the uncanny valley and feels absolutely like something someone would make in the 2000’s the black and white screen, the robotic text to speech, the creepy animations, it just all feels so legit and oddly nostalgic
    Really great stuff

    • OX-IS-VERY-FUNKYBUNKYY:]
      OX-IS-VERY-FUNKYBUNKYY:] 13 days ago

      The face studio thing reminded me of the chezzkids “investigation”

    • Povota Knight
      Povota Knight 14 days ago

      @Luke The Legend brightness issue

    • Luke The Legend
      Luke The Legend 14 days ago +2

      @Povota Knight with that part I literally couldn’t see it because of my brightness, so it just looked like an empty closet

    • Povota Knight
      Povota Knight 15 days ago

      @Pempot Foy closet scene

    • ☆Weird◇
      ☆Weird◇ 22 days ago +4

      Its my favorite part.

  • ComicalAmethyst
    ComicalAmethyst 2 months ago +3393

    Adam gleefully forcing Sarah to look at the very creatures that made her brother kill himself is horrifying if he’s an alternate, but if he’s _not_ and he’s just so hellbent on catching the monsters that killed his mother/possibly his ex girlfriend, that it’s turned into a sick fascination/obsession with them, it’s even _more_ brutal.
    EDIT: I’m not saying I don’t believe that Adam could be an alternate; it is very likely that he is. I’m just saying that all the creepy stuff he does in this volume would be a lot creepier and sadder (to me, personally), if he wasn’t an alternate and had just gone off the deep end.

    • Ace ♤
      Ace ♤ 17 days ago

      @Yummy nah fam, real adam or human adam as a baby IS the one who got kidnapped. The intruder just left Our Current Adam / Alternate Adam as a replacement. Just so happens, that this 'replacement' forgot, didn’t know he wasn’t the original fine print.

    • dfailsthemost
      dfailsthemost Month ago

      @Pebbless654 Sarah says that Adam "left Jonah". I figured that Adam caught up to the car and found Jonah dead. He then took the car. I'm honestly guessing about some of this. I don't know if we're meant to think Adam killed Jonah - that Jonah's grunt when exiting the car was due to an attack by Adam. But I don't think so.

    • dfailsthemost
      dfailsthemost Month ago

      @ComicalAmethyst Yeah, some of that just confused me.

    • HiYoo
      HiYoo Month ago

      there is evidence he isnt

    • ComicalAmethyst
      ComicalAmethyst Month ago

      @Da1_Potato I mean, that _is_ a good point.

  • Kumoneko
    Kumoneko Month ago +22

    I’m on the verge of tears and I don’t cry like ever. This series is everything I love and look for in a story. Angst. Humor. Fear. Lore. Thank you so much for creating this series. I can’t wait to see it grow.

  • My Remedy
    My Remedy Month ago +61

    The more I think about this, the more it seems like Adam is crazier than the alternates.

    • PussMaster119
      PussMaster119 Month ago +10

      @zymphyr yeah, if he's an alternate, than that explains it but if he's just some insane dude than that's infinitely more creepy. Just some dude so set in his ways that he doesn't care who gets caught in the crossfire. The scariest people are ones who will do anything for their goal and don't have anything to lose

    • zymphyr
      zymphyr Month ago +11

      @PussMaster119 that’s because he’s most likely an alternate, but i do think that it would be infinitely more creepy if he wasn’t and that’s just how deranged he is

    • brenden
      brenden Month ago

      @PussMaster119 What no mama does to a guy.

    • PussMaster119
      PussMaster119 Month ago +9

      Yeah, it really shows during this part. He forces Sarah to look at something she's so terrified of. He disregards Jonah's abbsense, basically being like "sucks to suck I guess but I've got some really good footage" it's kinda scary. He has one goal and he doesn't really care about others

  • mugi !!!
    mugi !!! Month ago +77

    when wendigoon remarked on how the production value exponentially grows in this series.. well.
    anyways, i think this entry was really really fascinating :) there's definitely less of the "scary" factor but i don't think that makes the series bad at all, especially since alex has said that he's moving more away from horror + the analog style. it's a really engaging story and i'm still really curious about things happening in it, super cool and love this volume just as much as the others

    • Shy
      Shy 5 days ago +1

      @EmmaJ.K.88 the whole thing started out as part of analog horror. I'm a sucker for that kind of content. Now if he wants to move away from that, and make it like any generic non scary horror movie , then I'm not gonna stay for that..

    • EmmaJ.K.88
      EmmaJ.K.88 5 days ago

      @Shy That's really sad that you feel that way then. There is a great story going on here, and the series is more than just the "scares". Most people can see that. Alex is growing as a creator and going in a direction that he has already planned. We should be able to appreciate it.

    • Shy
      Shy Month ago +11

      I am literally watching this series for the scares. If he is trying to move away from horror, then why did he gather an audience that wants horror?

  • OutOfMyWay's Workshop (Formerly Big Man AGOTI)

    this vol reveals a new type of alternate. ill list them all because im bored
    Type 1- Doppelgänger
    Can fit perfectly into society. Almost no flaws
    Type 2- Unspeakable
    More notable flaws. Easier to recognize
    Type 3- Overdriven Assimilation
    Inhuman capacities. Recognizable due to being in their true form 99% of the time.
    Type 4- Mimic
    Shaped to be inanimate objects. Can be recognizable due to audible breathing.
    Type 5- Tulpa
    Can be seen through mirrors and TVs
    Type 6- Sleepers
    Kids who were kidnapped by 6 turned into alternates. None of them know they are.

    • Exquisite
      Exquisite 11 days ago +4

      @Horbiflorbin ikr

    • Horbiflorbin
      Horbiflorbin 16 days ago +21

      @Classical Cinno thats a shame, the idea of a seemingly inanimate object breathing is terrifying

    • Classical Cinno
      Classical Cinno 22 days ago +9

      Yes, but the type 4 was scrapped from the project or something
      Edit: A grammar mistake

  • dripsndropsin
    dripsndropsin 2 months ago +3130

    23:36 "a special announcement regarding jonah marshall" then "remember to rate 5 stars and subscribe" absolutely killed me lmao

  • Happy Tobus
    Happy Tobus Month ago +390

    I like how when Sarah calls Adam, the intruder just ends the call and leaves.

    • Cinar The Start / Little Wolt
      Cinar The Start / Little Wolt 7 days ago

      I mean what was he gonna do, manipulate?

    • Matthew Fejes
      Matthew Fejes 15 days ago +9

      Well yeah if she wants to be rude Stanley doesn't have to sit there and take it

    • Daisy
      Daisy 16 days ago +30

      intruder sitting there like : 👁👄👁

    • Anonymous 73
      Anonymous 73 Month ago +63

      “Oh sorry I’ll leave you 2 alone”

  • Randomness Animation
    Randomness Animation Month ago +8

    These Mandela Catalogue videos keep getting better and better! And more lengthier as well! Love the use of actors and green screen backgrounds, the dark atmosphere definitely gives off the vibes of a hopeless world!
    Can’t wait to see what’s in store in the next episode!

  • Daisy Dietzel
    Daisy Dietzel Month ago +6

    this was so good but I wish it was like the first volume…but I loved this and can’t wait for vol 5!!

  • Zack Layer
    Zack Layer Month ago +3

    I Love Mandela But It Kinda Feels To Me That While Budget Has Increased, Production Quality And Effort Put In Went Down A Slight Bit And It's Noticeable Though I Still Love It.

  • Bog Bilberry Baggins, Ancient God Of Death

    The portrayal of this Dave guy is so hilarious that I honestly expected there to be a second pair of sunglasses under the one he took off

    • Bog Bilberry Baggins, Ancient God Of Death
    • Nia
      Nia 11 days ago

      Can you tell me the minute? I don't remember where it was and don't wanna see all the video again lol

    • Crime Doll
      Crime Doll 16 days ago

      You. Don't. Belong. Here.

    • the reciever
      the reciever 19 days ago

      @1337ik_ DUDE I THOUGHT THE EXACT SAME THING

    • Zetto
      Zetto 24 days ago

      @Ninjajack64 I was thinking that the whole video, kinda ruined it for me

  • AstrionPVP
    AstrionPVP Month ago +4

    I absolutely LOVE how if you listen close enough when Gabriel is speaking, you can still hear the og TTS voice, please never change Gabriel's tts voice it's perfect for him 🙌

  • Jesse Morales
    Jesse Morales Month ago +3

    I don’t know how to feel about this part, I absolutely loved the first 3 volumes, maybe I’m just more into the analogue videos but then I really liked the voice acting in volume 2 and 3, where this I felt it was a bit wooden, also I know people have said this in the comments but I’m not a big fan of Gabriel’s voice.

  • poorya mehdipoor
    poorya mehdipoor Month ago

    This episode was absolutely phenomenal. The production quality is stunning, and the story is very well put together. Bravo

  • Zachary Mabb
    Zachary Mabb Month ago +3

    25:12 Exposure to verbal information that is not desired to be known.
    27:25 Biologically impossible characteristics.
    28:03 "A thriving society of followers of the true savior. A mess of tangled limbs danced around my bedroom. I held my breath, and waited for it to stop. I was too scared to- (I am unable to make it out, voices begin overlapping) I am the-----why you evade the truth-uth-uth-uth-uth"
    37:54 "The flicker of the TV illuminated his bedroom. Drowning out the darkness with his favorite programs. Do you remember how we became friends? The lights scared off all the monsters. They kept you safe. Do you remember my face, With contorted flesh and broken bones? I made myself known. Do you remember my touch? I cradled him in my arms. My sweet boy. I took him away. Do you remember that night, Murray? When you stare into the mirror? You see the same monsters from your bedroom, don't you? But your skin is not your own. You're not the real yo-"

  • Dominius
    Dominius 2 months ago +478

    The fact that Adam thought it was a normal thing to be like oh yeah Jonah died but I got some killer footage though is so funny to me

    • brenden
      brenden 20 days ago

      guy gots nihilism

    • Dominius
      Dominius Month ago +1

      I know that I just found it funny

    • bro man bro
      bro man bro Month ago +13

      "didn't think it would be a big deal" 🤡🤡

    • Fon
      Fon Month ago +9

      that's because it was an alternate

  • Spoons
    Spoons Month ago

    I love this series, great story telling and genuinely creepy! Keep it up! :)

  • Cat_mama
    Cat_mama Month ago +1

    Yo, i love this! The way it gets my heart racing, fingers trembling, I feel blood pulsing on the edges if my body, it sounds bad, but it’s honestly a fun feeling, super interesting, keep it up! Love it

  • The Hostess
    The Hostess Month ago +2

    Alex is just too talented! These just keep getting better and better! Also, Gabriel the bastard, Gabriel my beloved got a voice now?? And it fits him so well??? Alex Kister you madman you've done it yet again!

  • Bonz C
    Bonz C Month ago

    Its great of how this series is so well executed its sad that the next mandela might be the last i was glad to stick to this series

  • BombBoi 3000
    BombBoi 3000 2 months ago +5615

    Adam is an alternate, but has forgotten. As the intruder says, his skin is not his own, and he is not the real him. Also, during the “memorial video” for Jonah, Evelin says that he said things to her that she “wished he had never told me.” He told her the information that is undesired to be known that causes M.A.D.

    • BombBoi 3000
      BombBoi 3000 9 days ago

      @II Wolfs II 🤷‍♂️

    • Zenin
      Zenin Month ago

      @Noctizide stands for Metaphysical awareness disorder, it is spread by alternates in an attempt at making people end their lives to take over their appearance. it is information that is undesired to be known, most likely about religion. i dont think adam is an alternate, intruder tries to make him end his life so he says that, adam only survived alternates because alternates cant attack you, they can only spread M.A.D, and adam is not afraid of the information.

    • II Wolfs II
      II Wolfs II Month ago

      @the upper room so if adam does find out he is an alternate then what would he do would he continue to live like a human or not if he already has feelings and connection with people

    • Karachi
      Karachi Month ago

      @Douglas Taylor don't listen to MattPatt, he's wrong constantly

    • Douglas Taylor
      Douglas Taylor Month ago

      So is the intruder a bad guy or not ? The film theorist mat pat got me all messed up

  • Zelim
    Zelim Month ago +3

    That ending is so fucking badass. The voice and background atmosphere are insane

  • Maxim Nikolaev
    Maxim Nikolaev Month ago +2

    It seems like there are two different kinds of evil in this series
    One of which is Gabriel which believes in "if there are more of me out there, then there are less control of mankind"
    The other is 6 aka stranger aka Stanley, who has stolen a child and brought "something" back. (It could be the 'real' or fake Adam that we are speaking to.) It could also imply that Adams alternate never left and basically casted a shadow onto Adam and he can't sleep at all because it's been constantly haunting him both consciously and subconsciously, not even knowing what is real or not, and just having random moments of peace (somehow knowing where the car was and walked for miles, not even knowing where Jonah is.)
    The thing I love the most about this volume is the stranger being "summoned" like a demon to Adam and telling him false truths and Adam himself has to figure out what he is saying is real or what is fake.

  • SuperFlashDriver
    SuperFlashDriver Month ago

    Okay, for one, I'm getting some serious SAW and Silent Hill vibes. This went from being just a regular 80s 90s analogue horror series, to now being very similar to what Silent Hill offered from the live action films as well as the video games...Stunning, but the story in this one is all over the place, and not really precise on how I should follow it. Thankfully people will debunk and go through this video in better explanation. And thinking that the live action filmed portions were weird and not really fit, as time went on though they actually do have a purpose of why it's there. Now, mandela, a town that was full of great people, now becomes nothing more than a ghostown, and that's awful to live and be in that town that no longer has a ton of people living there now would it.
    EDIT: Well, now seeing the whole thing, it all starts to make sense at the end of the video, where it all connects. Now I see why it took this long to get here. And all of this happened between 1985 and 2010. Interesting.

  • GhoulFace101
    GhoulFace101 Month ago

    Loved this, but the hooded intruder was the part I was waiting for, like I love him (not romantically I think)

  • Dogón Cabrera
    Dogón Cabrera Month ago

    A good episode but I want more scary things like the old volumes

  • Martin
    Martin Month ago +1

    Now to wait for wendigoon to make a video explaining all the amazing details I missed lol
    This vid was great! More amazing cgi work, and alotnof creepy ideas!

  • Léo
    Léo Month ago

    that is just a masterpiece. dont stop griding up your very very talented and thanks for that 4rth volume.

  • Archon
    Archon Month ago +1

    the part where the alternate went behind dave and started laughing, that was honestly a bit cringe, with dave also shivering weirdly. also the part with the emo guy was a bit weird, but other than that it was all great

    • mix
      mix Month ago +1

      The "emo guy" is thatcher, and the "alternate" that went behind Dave was the Devil.

  • Sleepy
    Sleepy 2 months ago +4686

    "A scared boy with a gun. Sound familiar."
    That is an absolute heart sinking moment

    • Sleepy
      Sleepy 20 days ago

      @Meme_Lurker damn that's crazy

    • Meme_Lurker
      Meme_Lurker 20 days ago

      The wiggle arms made me gafaw with laughter, they either didn’t try or tried to hard. There are no heart sink moments anymore, all the backgrounds look unrealistic asf, we didn’t need everything to be show in this way

    • despicable gold72
      despicable gold72 25 days ago +1

      It's not.

    • Salt n’ Piper
      Salt n’ Piper 27 days ago +2

      Does Alex speak the sound familiar part idk who’s voice that is

    • Evilmudbug
      Evilmudbug Month ago

      ​@Carlitos Jr that was mark's house so I mean

  • Cyborg Birdie
    Cyborg Birdie Month ago

    Not 100% sure how i feel about the new more live action segments but I still love this so much.

  • SOUPOFFICIAL
    SOUPOFFICIAL Month ago +2

    Dude 3 and 4 have taken a completely different turn from how the quality of Vol 1 and Vol 2 turned out

  • †DafneAllison†
    †DafneAllison† Month ago +1

    I really liked your video of volume 4 and the characters I liked before are the alternate ones, they had the ability to transform into people and also the voice that changed differently person that deceives them to attract them and then kill them but If you start to include people in person you have to do it very well so that it doesn't look too boring or also action and scare when volume 5 comes out it has to be better, some betrayal and scare It would just be that and goodbye 👋

  • Troin
    Troin Month ago +2

    I somewhat noticed this after TV Tropes pointed this out, but if you listen very closely to Gabriel's speech, you can just barely hear his text to speech whisper below his actual voice.

  • Yourmomisaguy
    Yourmomisaguy Month ago +2

    Mark my words, one day this is gonna get an official release

  • Spongebobiscoool
    Spongebobiscoool Month ago

    I am ready for the Mandela Catalogue Volume 5!!!!

  • Luna Everfree
    Luna Everfree Month ago +2

    16:40 my dude?!? Why is no one talking about how fucking terrifying this was! Gave me nightmares holy shit

  • Rolf Henning
    Rolf Henning Month ago

    Watched this on a plane. Guy next to me thought I was crazy😂 damn this was good

  • Daikaiju D Gaming
    Daikaiju D Gaming 2 months ago +179

    Sadly this is probably the least frightening video in the series. As much fun as the live action stuff probably was to shoot, it has nothing on just the audio and still images of the first three. The mind filling in the gaps is what makes some of the moments in the series so tense. With fuzzy pictures and blurry pov cam quality, you can hide the low production costs; but when you have clear as day people against those eerie images, it's just down right silly. Especially the hands scene and David killing Mr. sunglasses, it's just too goofy.

    • Soundwave The Christian
      Soundwave The Christian 3 days ago

      @Henry the Anglerfish
      Face Studio 2 was the only thing remotely scary.

    • Femboyfcker88
      Femboyfcker88 6 days ago

      EXACTLY

    • Cris
      Cris 10 days ago +1

      Thatcher's rant about Ruth is better than any moment in these series so far

    • Wallace
      Wallace 11 days ago

      @itrashcant same as you, i agree with you, this guys argue over this

    • itrashcant
      itrashcant 12 days ago +12

      I agree. It’s ok if it’s not as scary as the other volumes, but it didn’t feel scary enough because some of the live-action scenes broke the immersion. I still love this series though.

  • MondayMayhem
    MondayMayhem Month ago

    These keep getting better with each volume.
    And I'm not sure I'm happy about that...

  • MrRonron
    MrRonron Month ago

    I liked that volume, the scenario is really good, Thatcher voice actor is S-tier, most of the phrases have a deep meaning : "A scared boy with a gun, sounds familiar" for example, is very chilling and the portraits are really uncanny. However, that live action style makes everything way less scary and uncanny, I don't feel really concerned for myself since I'm watching from an outside perspective and I'm not in their shoes. I'm not very fond of Thatcher alternate CGI but it's my opinion, some peoples find it really cool. I may not be a fan of that 3D model, but I love the intruder's one at the end, he became one of my favorite vilain just from how cool he looks/acts. On another note, Gabriel's new voice looks really goofy, don't get me wrong, the actor did a fantastic job, however, it gives him a goofy cartoon vilain vibe, especially when he laughed. I also miss that text to speech voice, even tho we can slightly hear it when he's speaking, it's too quiet to be really noticeable. I would have loved a mix between that new voice and his text to speech voice, something like 50% text to speech and 50% real voice, (or the real voice on the right hear and tts voice on the left) it would have shown that Gabriel is evolving while still being uncanny. I hope you didn't had a stroke while reading my comment, i'm really sick and my monkey brain struggle to write in proper English. I really liked that volume, and I can only hope it's gonna get even better in the future, keep in mind I simply gave my opinion hoping it can be somehow useful.

  • Grace Treichel
    Grace Treichel Month ago +1

    "If no one's there to call you crazy, would you ever find out?"
    ~Thatcher

  • ColourfulYoshi
    ColourfulYoshi Month ago +1

    This just feels not like VHS horror but a self-sufficent horror movie

  • LittyKitty040
    LittyKitty040 2 months ago +3423

    This series has gone from "haha funny sus face" to more unsettling and scary than most horror films I've seen.

    • Atlas
      Atlas Day ago

      @PublicFrenemy it launched it farther into popularity, but Local 58, marble hornets, Gemini home entertainment are what branched this into a new Genre.
      You could say paranormal activity and the Blair witch project- but I feel like the series above branched into it’s own sub genre of analog horror.

    • Place Holder
      Place Holder 8 days ago

      @PublicFrenemy no it didn't lmao what in the actual fuck dude

    • Wallace
      Wallace 14 days ago

      It really scared before and yes actually lost its magic, but if haved the same thing before like to the start and to the final of the series, ir would be boring because we have already see this and you would not get chills from the same thing it really creeped you before

    • Deku Kitty
      Deku Kitty 25 days ago

      @heassik3088 I think him not looking like a cop is part of the idea. The police department was taking anyone they could get. Can you imagine how many officers have been killed by alternates over the years? How many officers have quit and fled? And who the hell would even want to ever work for the Mandela County Police with that kind of track record? Makes sense that they would hire someone who no other police department would have hired, they would have probably taken anyone who was willing. Thatcher was clearly too young and under-qualified for the position, which makes it even sadder.

    • Foppy Poof
      Foppy Poof Month ago

      @Thomas I’d argue that the obviously fake backgrounds mixed with real actors makes this uncanny valley. I kinda like it, although Dave is definitely a bit goofy.

  • Armine Nikolian
    Armine Nikolian Month ago

    They use irl acting and I’m just beyond surprised how well it went

  • BabylonGames
    BabylonGames Month ago +2

    Honestly, text to speech Gabriel scared me more

  • obl1v1on
    obl1v1on  Month ago +1

    Bro this guy should make a paranormal series

  • N0rm4lly
    N0rm4lly Month ago +4

    hot take: the falsified gabriel sounded scarier with the TTS

    • MotNurky
      MotNurky 13 days ago

      I cannot fathom how someone thought it was a good idea to give him that voice it sounds so bad

  • CoolPlayersVic
    CoolPlayersVic 2 months ago +1887

    Can we talk about the scene where Thatcher started crying because he was too scared to save Ruth? You gotta give props to the voice actor too like damn

    • Deku Kitty
      Deku Kitty 25 days ago

      @soundwavethechristian4060 Somehow I get the feeling you aren't exactly the highest authority on voice acting ability.

    • FISH_ IN_COAT
      FISH_ IN_COAT 28 days ago

      He makes really good music under the name teenage disaster, you should check him out

    • FISH_ IN_COAT
      FISH_ IN_COAT 28 days ago

      ​@Soundwave The Christian If you think that was one of the worst performances you haven't seen a lot of them

    • MrBasic
      MrBasic Month ago +1

      sad-tcher davis

    • Soundwave The Christian
      Soundwave The Christian Month ago

      You mean one of the worst voice acting performances ever? Yeah.. Surez

  • The man
    The man Month ago +1

    I fucking love Adam as a character

  • dangerxbadger
    dangerxbadger Month ago +178

    17:00
    This sequence scared me the most in this volume because it was so reminiscent of being awake with a feeling of dread you cant explain, staring into the dark of your room and SWEARING you see something in your closet and just staring at it, praying it doesn't move, freaking out a bit when your eyes start to fatigue from not blinking because then it kind of DOES move and then you *really* can't fuckin sleep.
    Absolutely mastetful. Alex, you're a fucking genius.

    • dangerxbadger
      dangerxbadger 3 days ago

      @plasma I also want to add that I'm a grown ass woman who is intelligent enough to admit that there are things that are beyond the understanding that current science possesses or can explain. Arthur C Clarke's quip on sufficiently advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic comes to mind here.

    • Spritzi
      Spritzi 10 days ago +2

      @plasma ever woken up to the sound of someone inside your house who definitely is not meant to be there?
      the whole "monster in the closet" fear isnt that unreasonable imo

    • dangerxbadger
      dangerxbadger 10 days ago +4

      @Yazmin Lares particularly when there are plenty of monstrous humans. Monsters absolutely exist, you walk by them every day.

    • Yazmin Lares
      Yazmin Lares 12 days ago +7

      @plasma fear isn’t linked only to children, adults fear childish things too…

    • hitsuray
      hitsuray 15 days ago +6

      That scene is literally the worst for me.
      I have similiar experience, albeit it's because i have stress and anxiety at that time, so I'm just hallucinating. But still the scariest moment of my life

  • Damien Silva
    Damien Silva Month ago

    Hey Alex you should do a colander with Kane Pixels! He mad backrooms found footage videos with a catalogue horror style, same with you. I think having an Alternate in the backrooms sounds fun, the way they imitate their victims.

  • Gret Bruh
    Gret Bruh Month ago +6

    38:06 dont never buy no weed from the gas station bro

  • Ryth
    Ryth 2 months ago +457

    The fact that the siren went off for the alternate that got into the station while the girl was there is some insane creativity to create horror. This volume in the series is by far the best.

  • EvanNn
    EvanNn Month ago

    Are others getting My Chemical Romance vibe from the “Thatcher scenes”?
    “I woke up today sad, and the sun is shining - but not on me… because Im sad…..”
    Still tho…. Gotta love a solid spook

  • StrongArm
    StrongArm Month ago +1

    16:41
    Guys, I think this alternate is trying to impersonate Ruth Weaver to taunt Thatcher about her death. That looks like Ruth, epsecially at 16:59

  • Sarah Boothe
    Sarah Boothe Month ago

    Here after watching Jacksepticeye's video on this. Just wanted to say that this is AWESOME! 🖤

  • HiYoo
    HiYoo Month ago +189

    “no wonder why evelin left you”
    “no wonder why your brother killed himself”

    • Ethan
      Ethan 11 hours ago +2

      that's foul 💀💀💀💀

    • Xen
      Xen 2 days ago +2

      Me, personally? I would NOT let that slide. /Ref

    • Giftanimates
      Giftanimates 3 days ago +2

      Now me personally…

    • Surprised lemon
      Surprised lemon 5 days ago +1

      💀

    • EmmaJ.K.88
      EmmaJ.K.88 5 days ago +2

      Hey he deserved that. He was being an absolute douchebag toward her and was just heartless about Jonah.

  • Piggy Soda
    Piggy Soda 2 months ago +8774

    The absolute dread I'm feeling knowing that there are live action scenes in this volume is getting me hyped to see where the series goes from here

    • Wallace
      Wallace 14 days ago

      It really scared before and yes actually lost its magic, but if haved the same thing before like to the start and to the final of the series, ir would be boring because we have already see this and you would not get chills from the same thing it really creeped you before, if i sayed it was a analog horror and now a generic analog horror, if you see, this series has give the born/rise to this genre, but i think evolve its better

    • Mental Man
      Mental Man 2 months ago

      @DigitalDibbuk there are like... two more volumes

    • cactusSeeds
      cactusSeeds 2 months ago

      @guy would be pretty shit considering puppet combo games are cheapo "loud = scary" garbage

    • BunnyCrystal
      BunnyCrystal 2 months ago

      Not scary smh

    • guy
      guy 2 months ago

      Imagine a Puppet Combo Mandela Catalogue game-

  • BlackStillPlays
    BlackStillPlays Month ago +1

    the whole vid i had chills run down my whole body

  • Flamia Minu
    Flamia Minu 23 days ago +108

    I just realized something. It's minor, but still a cool detail.
    In his messenger, Adam has a contact named "Noah", which is naturally a biblical name, and he says he's gonna play Left 4 Dead 2.
    In that game there's a chapter titled "Come Hell and HIgh Water".
    Alex you magnificent bastard, you did it again.

    • Flamia Minu
      Flamia Minu 4 hours ago

      @rebjr seriously? How are they NOT correlated. They're both about a FLOOD and BIBLICAL REFERENCES. At this point you're doing it on purpose, or you're indeed dumb.

    • rebjr
      rebjr 6 hours ago

      @Flamia Minu why u say again like im stupid💀 bro how would they have any correlation u didn't even say how they do in ur comment

    • Flamia Minu
      Flamia Minu 7 hours ago

      @rebjr again, why do they have no correlation?
      Noah is part of a biblical episode involving a great flood.
      Left 4 Dead 2 has a chapter called "Come Hell and High Water" that ALSO involves a big flood.
      Are you just being willfully ignorant or did you not even bother thinking about this?

    • rebjr
      rebjr Day ago +3

      @Flamia Minu cuz u connected 2 random ass things that have no correlation then said he was a genius

    • Flamia Minu
      Flamia Minu Day ago +1

      @rebjr I'd like to know why you think I am.

  • SOZOMUCI / ソゾムチ 音MAD

    10:31 how did you manage to create a “messaging platform from early 2000s” styled scene like this? This episode was insanely impressive.

  • Adzy
    Adzy Month ago +1

    Wait is the Face Studio 2 thing a critique of the actual AI shenanigans? I mean, the distorted faces are quit common from those art-stealing algorithms

  • Itz Deathstroke
    Itz Deathstroke 2 months ago +1796

    I’m gonna miss Gabriel’s text to speech voice. It’s sounded so inhuman and it rly did fit well

    • Joe Mama
      Joe Mama Month ago

      @Thomas Seen some people say it’s like a fake voice and the text speech one is there if you listen closely

    • Thomas
      Thomas Month ago

      Its not the fact that he has a human voice now that is the problem, it's the goofy voice itself that is the problem

    • Joe Mama
      Joe Mama 2 months ago +1

      @Julian Think they mean it’s under the voice if you listen to it. Especially since earlier Dave was deadass led there by Paster O Brian so it would make sense he took his voice for it.

    • Bloom
      Bloom 2 months ago

      yeah that traumatized me fr

    • Gabriel333
      Gabriel333 2 months ago +1

      @CooperDaBooper *" hey Dave Lee , look at this image ! Let's play spot the difference . "*

  • 065 zerorokugo
    065 zerorokugo Month ago

    私はほんの数日前にこのシリーズを好きになりました
    これからも楽しみにしています

  • Algerian v1nce
    Algerian v1nce  Month ago +1

    question if Adam(the first man) got replaced with an alternate does that mean eve mated with an alternate meaning human are descendants of alternates

  • Angry Gamer
    Angry Gamer Month ago +400

    Why was Dave dying so goofy 💀💀💀

    • EnderRose
      EnderRose 3 hours ago

      @Soundwave The Christian no

    • Ethan
      Ethan 11 hours ago

      @Sia Walia I think this one was more about the characters history, about their life, about what are the are dealing with, I like the new idea of being more IRL than being just some simple images, Alex Kister made a good joob making this one

    • Ethan Winters
      Ethan Winters 11 days ago

      Bro really said 😎

    • Wallace
      Wallace 14 days ago +2

      It really scared before and yes actually lost its magic, but if haved the same thing before like to the start and to the final of the series, ir would be boring because we have already see this and you would not get chills from the same thing it really creeped you before, if i sayed it was a analog horror and now a generic analog horror, if you see, this series has give the born/rise to this genre, but i think evolve its better even if its to the worst because itself the magic can lost its sparkle

    • Sia Walia
      Sia Walia 15 days ago +4

      @FuckinAntiPope I felt that way too! As someone who enjoys horror and isn't fazed by most of it anymore, watching the first 3 volumes gave me chills, especially since there wasn't a single jumpscare. However, I felt like this one was missing a lot of that uneasiness and suspense present in the previous catalogues, as if something is behind you, watching you from the darkness. This one just wasn't as exciting and creepy as the others.

  • moht 2b
    moht 2b Month ago

    Holy shit this thing keep getting better good work man

  • heart♡eyes
    heart♡eyes 2 months ago +3647

    i will never get over how intelligent the alternates truly are & the mere idea of them developing the face editing software themselves or somehow finding their way into utilizing it is genuinely _horrifying._
    + and also!! gabriel is one hell of a villain and i absolutely adore him.
    it seems he’s won once again

    • Ardhito N
      Ardhito N 19 days ago +1

      face studio 2 wasn't the alternates' doing, it was developed by mandelatech, the company where dave worked and most likely took part in the creation of the software. gabriel said that dave "already done his bidding for him" implies that dave was talked into developing the software

    • OfCourse
      OfCourse 2 months ago +1

      Just like Walter White.

    • Skittle Multiple Brown Vibranium
      Skittle Multiple Brown Vibranium 2 months ago

      Sigh.. Another stan.

    • Joe Mama
      Joe Mama 2 months ago

      @Jesse pinkman All of them seem interestint ngl. Tho since the Intruder/guy in the tv+ Gabriel/Satan are the most dangerous individuals, able to keep Jesus locked away, think they will probably need way more tbh. Saw a theory that someone (prolly one of the mc) will free Jesus.

    • Josh Jess
      Josh Jess 2 months ago +4

      @Jesse pinkman Yeah, tbh, climax ending 4 almost seems to be where the story may end up. Mandela County's been struggling with this scourge for 17 years. I'm certain the Alternates had plenty of time to spread like an infection to neighboring areas and into some positions of power since them.
      It's looking like they want to replace the human race.

  • The Special Interest Show! with Jupiter August

    17:00 absolutely fucking terrifying. Wonderful! I jumped!

  • jixok _79
    jixok _79 Month ago

    Great im watching this at 1 26 am i do not have a door in my bedroom and im scared af i watched all of those videost and they are great i love it but im scared keep it up

  • MrRonron
    MrRonron Month ago

    I'm sick and i'm watching Mandela catalogue to scare my virus away

  • R789B
    R789B Month ago

    It's okay.
    Dave lee is going to be an alternate like Cesar Torres or the others.
    So we will still get the chance to see him.

  • MissionGuyNoob
    MissionGuyNoob Month ago

    17:05 Sir, we've been trying to reach you to tell that your car warranty has been extended

  • Alt
    Alt Month ago +1

    What's up with the Heathcliff family getting continuously traumatized

  • Chase Duncan
    Chase Duncan 9 days ago +17

    I'll be honest. I thought I was de-sensitized to analogue horror but after volume 2 of this, I continuously feel chills down my spine, I got so scared by the ending part of volume 3 I had to actually skip ahead just to the end so I wouldn't have any nightmares, and even then, that face...that smile it's all burned into my eyes...Amazing job, man!

    • marwandive1
      marwandive1 6 days ago +1

      yep, mandela never disappoints

  • Pixel Playz
    Pixel Playz Month ago

    This story just keeps getting bigger, man.

  • The Bag
    The Bag 2 months ago +1709

    That bit at the end was fucking mind blowing. We not only know why Adam is so different from everyone else, but this is a major bombshell. Adam was an alternate, and he didn't even know it. How many other people were accidentally doing Gabriel's bidding? Was Murray an alternate? Hell, was Mark an alternate? This leads to so many questions, and we can now trust even less people in this series. Hats off to Alex Kister, he is a fucking master at work

    • Joe Mama
      Joe Mama 16 days ago

      @Ace ♤ Not really sure if the real Adam died tbh; especially since the Intruder noted after he stole him from the mother who hung herself (after he was stolen), he “hid him away”. Tho most def is probably dead tbh.

    • Jayalen
      Jayalen 17 days ago

      @Ace ♤ fuck it. This is the Schrödinger Adam theory: either Adam is an Alternate or not an Alternate.
      I'm on the 'Adam is a mule and not an Alternate' side

    • Ace ♤
      Ace ♤ 17 days ago

      @Jayalen you’re not Alex Kister. We don’t know to what extent the alternates can do. Heck, who knows some new 'type' of them can perhaps age/ 'grow up'. Adam’s a sleeper agent. And I highly doubt Mark is one as well, real mark straight up died.

    • Ace ♤
      Ace ♤ 17 days ago

      @Jayalen Nope. He’s definitely an alternate alright. It’s basically confirmed. Real adam supposedly died when he was a baby. Alt! Adam just forgot he wasn’t human, growing up.

    • Laymovaya Dolka
      Laymovaya Dolka 26 days ago +1

      @Joe Mama lmao💀

  • saci de patinete
    saci de patinete Month ago

    plmds algum br tem que traduzir essa série, o único canal que traduzia parou

  • Evilmudbug
    Evilmudbug Month ago

    Gabriel: "No Dave, it's society, society is the problem"

  • FloofParl
    FloofParl Month ago

    fuckin respect to thorne he always loved Mandela catalogue and one of the main reasons it got popular (he made the game maple county that was based off mandela catalogue people like markiplier and jacksepticeye played causing it to be recognized) and now he plays thatcher davis fuckin respect.

    • FloofParl
      FloofParl Month ago

      if you didnt know the person who plays thatcher davis is thorne baker also known online as teenage disaster he makes music with spider gang with other popular members being afourteen and lil darkie he also develops indie games like the maple county game based off mandela catalogue

  • Jojogape
    Jojogape Month ago +71

    I love how grayscale is used in the series as shorthand for alternate dominion/presence.
    "Gabriel" and pretty much all alternates are always shown in grayscale. In "in the beginning", night is shown in grayscale. Often, when "Gabriel" appears in an animation, everything turns grayscale. This also happens in the trailer for Vol. 4, where color is slowly swept away by grayscale.

  • MinniMaster
    MinniMaster 2 months ago +3205

    I'm torn on Gabriel's new voice. On one hand it makes sense for the lore as Alternates learn to replicate human speech more accurately, but on the other, there was something so primordially terrifying about the text-to-speech voice that shook me to my core.

    • A Singing Monsta
      A Singing Monsta Month ago

      @Святослав Репнов Just like how Lucifer Seduced your mother

    • Micro Mints
      Micro Mints Month ago +1

      He sounds too much like Mark Hamill’s Joker

    • Neil
      Neil Month ago

      i like to think both of them are his voice

    • Pebbless654
      Pebbless654 Month ago

      I personally love his new voice because it sounds like somebody who is deceiveful

    • Bitche Getter
      Bitche Getter Month ago +1

      @dominick Howard time to slur***

  • CorndogCrusader
    CorndogCrusader Month ago +2

    Holy shit, Alex. I'm sorry to say this but this just feels like a really goofy parody of The Mandela Catalogue. Like, I'm sure you worked hard on this but it was so unbelievably cringy and goofy.

  • Ashes
    Ashes Month ago +1

    15:57 "If nobody's there to call you crazy" "would you ever find out?"

  • RadpekCZ
    RadpekCZ Month ago

    i love it !!!!!!! KEEP THE WORK UP! (ITS SRAČKA)

  • ernxle
    ernxle Month ago

    i need more cause i'll chuck anything at my window.

  • *EcLiPsE*
    *EcLiPsE* 2 months ago +3399

    sarah really hit adam with the "no wonder evelin left you"

    • Anônimo Wuz
      Anônimo Wuz 17 days ago

      @Thatwatermelon unlikely. Adam just basically died, and he turned into Adam already thinking he was Adam? nah.

    • Thatwatermelon
      Thatwatermelon 18 days ago

      @Anônimo Wuz Film theory explains its possible he doesn't know hes a alternate

    • Goofy ahh Rath fan
      Goofy ahh Rath fan 20 days ago

      @Oilybat dead as hell

    • Oilybat
      Oilybat 21 day ago +1

      That’s why yo momma dead

    • Lillith the maid demon
      Lillith the maid demon 21 day ago

      DEADASS

  • VEX_Instincts
    VEX_Instincts Month ago

    What if a group of Alternate Killer individuals formed? People who are already mentally insane and broken, or willingly broke themselves mentally to save the lives of others? Like creepy serial killers that are attempting to fight back these alternates. Can’t break something that’s already broken essentially