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Dead Meat Can you do a Halloween Kill Count ?
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I love how easily Ghostface is made to look goofy when he chases people in these films. It was especially noticeable in the first one. He's constantly plunging his knife into wood, or running into tables. It gives it some humor, sure, but it also gives it so much realism and is a reminder that Ghostface is just a human, which in some ways makes it scarier. He is not some unkillable demon or dream terror or alien clown etc. It's fantastic.
@Visitormassacre that also makes it more realistic; you'd be in so much fear and panicked that you wouldn't always think the most logical, perfectly practical way. the killer is knocked out? run away to safety would probably be most people's real instinct
And in the first movie where he just like slipped in or out doors like the floor was made out of butter
I like to think he can't see very well under that mask and that's why he's running into stuff or tripping over
@Alastor Deer I can get behind that
@Clarence Yax it just makes the movie funnier to me
The Jada death is one of the most heartbreaking deaths in the series....The fact that she's being killed in front of a lot of people, and then looks at them for help at the end...Creepy
Besides Cassies Beckers kill this was the second best kills in the movie.
On paper the kill is a very cool idea, but Jada Smith ruins it. Her overacting is laughable. I have no idea why Craven went with her.
Izaan ur rehman Everything about her is so forced. It isn’t 100% her fault because Craven has the final say, I get that. The scene itself is a tad ridiculous (intentionally) so I don’t want a ridiculous performance on top of that.
I remember that part scaring me when i was younger lol
Maureen's death was chilling...She wanted help, and everyone thought it was part of the fun...That's a scary way to go....
@Phil Minty lol
@Phil Minty yeah I agree
@Phil Minty u cant be racist towards white people lmaooo
@zela day anf why is that
Randy’s death has always devastated me 😢 he was one of the best and coolest characters in the film. Rest In Peace Randy ♥️
I can relate
I would have been fine with them killing EVERY other character in the series as long as Randy survived…
Even though it’s fake and just a movie I’m still soo sad 😢
The fact that Sheldon’s mom played Ghostface is just perfection
Kayla Perkins 😂😂👌🏾
For Frasier fans, she’s also Nanny G 😂
She was also from Roseanne
no... aunt jackie
suny123boy1 from Big Bang Theory Laurie Metcalf who yes also plays Aunt Jackie in Roseanne she’s done quite a lot of other shows and films other than that one and Scream 2 check the web before calling someone wrong for something so small
She’s also in Lady Bird Toy Story as Andy’s mom Georgia Rule Meet The Robinson’s Treasure Planet and she’s Nanny G in one episode of Frasier
How crazy would Sydney and Cotton's story be in real life. She falsely accuses him of murdering her mother, and he turns around and saves her life.
Would probably end up on Dr Phil or something lmao
In Plain Sight Ungrateful for what? He slept with her married mother and only saved her after she agreed to make him famous.
@Jessy Jasso Sydney's mom slept with everyone though, Cotton is a victim of Billy no matter how you view it.
That fact they actually got Tori Spelling to play fake Sydney after the throw away line in the first one is just amazing.
True, very underrated
@Ginger Daddy 🗿
I read that Neve Campbell felt bad about the line in the first movie and sent Tori Spelling flowers. That's probably how they got her for this.
sharksandsheep Neve cambell sounds like a sweetheart for doing this omg lol
Randy was originally gonna be revealed to have survived his attack in scream 3 and that his parents were hiding him. But it got cut for being “unrealistic”.
Well that shoots down my idea for the 5th lol
To me it makes sense cause I mean if your son almost got murdered I mean wouldn’t you want to hide him
There is a theory that he might be revealed to be the mastermind behind the Ghostface killings in the upcoming movie, Scream 5.
Ethan Roy I don’t think most people would
Debbie: leaves billy
Billy: becomes a serial killer
Sydney: kills billy in self defense
Debbie: surprised pikachu face
So true lol
Well yeah but you're thinking about it like a sane person, which Debbie clearly is not. From her point of view her son was murdered in cold blood
Fun fact: Jamie Kennedy asked Wes craven if he was actually dead or a fake uot like Dewey in the first movie and when Wes said “No your dead dead” Jamie said “ well then let’s show them I’m dead” grabbed fake blood doused himself in it and they used to gory take
Randy was my favorite character imagine how huge it would have been if he survived until Scream 4
Best character in the series,
If they bring Stu back then they have to bring Randy back!
They could show him as a flashback in the new scream movie
He was dead as fuck though, it wouldnt be realistic if they did that
Scream 2 holds up so well in large part due to the lingering aftereffects of the first film. Sydney has trust issues, Dewey has scar tissue, and Gale has....not yet learned her lesson. That said, my favorite part is how *the moment* Sydney's friends see her upset, they're there to support her. They all have scars from the first movie, but Sydney had it worse then any one of them.
It's something that has carried through in subsequent films, although Sydney's group sadly gets smaller. Losing Randy hurt.
In Scream 3, losing Cotton hurt a lot more than we expected. Because we saw the way he changed the moment he realized what was going on, "Leave her alone! She's been through enough!" (or something similar).
Moments like that have allowed Scream to age much better than other slasher franchises. And the new film coming out seems to understand that. I'm praying that this is the film where Dewey finally gets to have a badass moment. Poor guy has gotten the shit end of the stick every time.
Also it helps that the First 2 films were written together by the same writer with sequels in mind right away. That’s not too common with new movies.
great analysis but a goddamn spoiler warning would have been nice :)
@nathaniel sorry, will add.
Rules of Horror Movies
1: never have sex
2: never investigate
3: bring guns
4: never drink
5: never go in a dark room
And number 6: never fall down
7.If you fall down, crotch kick
@Dumpster Rat King Let's not forget the myth of "In horror films's, the black person always dies first."? That's not always the case.
Apex Legion what about never split up or be a female changing or in a shower
8. Never say I’ll be right back
@Who’s ready to take some Punishment?
"I'm gonna go grab a beer. You want one?”
Apparently in an earlier draft of the script, Randy compares the theater murders to the theater kill scene in He Knows You're Alone (1980), which, extra fun fact, is Tom Hanks' first actual film role.
His first movie was a horror film, I would have thought it had been a comedy.
If so, that was Williamson and Craven acknowledging that they took at least inspiration from that scene.
1:28 Phil Stevens
1:58 Maureen Evans
3:56 Ci-ci Cooper
6:10 Randy Meeks
7:43 officer Andrews
7:58 officer Richards
8:24 Halle McDaniel
8:54 Derek Feldman
10:16 Mrs. Loomis
10:30 Mickey Altieri
The way Mickey said “Billy’s mother” just shows how insane he is
Imagine if he did a kill count on Charlie And The Chocolate Factory except it’s an elimination count?
would be a funny April Fools joke (EDIT: but preferably the original, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, because the remake suuuucks)
They do technically die
@Meowdab I like the remake it’s more faithful to the book
@Meowdab tbh I prefer the remake. It’s more close to the book
@leo According to the book, the kids survive.
Sarah Michelle Gellar is one of my favourite Scream Queens ever.
“You killed my son!”
Yeah, and your son killed several innocent people.
Bringing it back to reality eh haha
Linnea Wijkmark the camera man and tatum and the principle and sidney mom and steve and casey
You murdered our murderer!! Lmao
HOW THE HELL COULD THE AUDIENCE BE SO OBLIVIOUS WHEN MAUREEN GOT KILLED
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Tayy Rayyy mate, these days, that franchise can come true
Tayy Rayyy Nah man, for 2019 it’s obviously Gay Stalkers
Lolbunny55 Yt Channel it’s America happens all the time
Maureen's death still gets to me now, that death scream still gives me chills
I love Dewey's being attacked in this movie because of how it plays out. We see it happening, but because the room is soundproofed there's no music until Gale realises what's happening.
Cotton confronting sidney in the library is brilliant. His tone and his movements are similar to how the killer would talk on the phone and act and ahes noticing all of it and freaking out
Will Smith is going to go out and slap GhostFace after that opening scene
I agree about Randy's death I was freaking disappointed he got killed off
I wasn't. I wanted more of the main cast to die.
Don't get me wrong, Sid and Gale are my top 2 horror characters ever (And that includes all the killers out there), but it would add a real sense of danger if they died.
Example: I didn't expect Dewey to survive the 2nd movie precisely because Randy didn't.
Yeah I want to yell at the writers and directors "oh my god you killed Randy,You bastards!"
Me too Randy shouldn't have died
But the movies are by horror movie rules, he had sex, therefore he has to die. Simple
3:59 It's funny you should say that. With Buffy filming at the same time, apparently SMG reflexively attacked the stunt man playing Ghostface a lot and had to keep herself from doing so.
Love your content Dead Meat team!! you guys are awesome and made me love horror! Can't wait to see your new film!
I'm curious if James has seen Jamie Kennedy's Clip-Share channel and the videos he's made about his experience with the Scream movies. It's an interesting behind the scenes look into the movies and the character. According to Jamie, Randy's dead body didn't have that much blood on it originally but Jamie talked to Wes saying that a victim of a slit throat should have more blood on them. He intentionally went overboard on the blood for his dead body reveal because he thought it'd look cooler and make the audience feel even sadder for his death.
8:29 Roman basically says that in Scream 3. "It's hard being friends with you Sid. When you're friends with Sidney you die."
He wasn't wrong.
Every single person in her life is dead, unless you count Dewey and Gale
Ghostface kills Jada:
Surprise ending: Will smith slaps ghost face to death screaming "Keep my wife's body, off your kill count."
When they got out of the cop car, why didn't they do any of the following
A. Grab the dead cop's gun
B. Kill Ghostfsce
C. While he was passed out, LOOK UNDER THE MASK TO SEE WHO IT WAS
@Visitormassacre Mrs. Loomis' motive was pretty clear, an unmask would've told that. Regardless, I'd just jot this down as dumb protagonist syndrome.
Because Movies gotta Movie
Because that would make to much sense.
They could have unmasked Mickey and think it was all done.. Than.. They could have mrs loomis attack everyone still when thry didnt know there was 2 killers. She reveals mickeys motives and her motives and boom.. Finale.
She tried to unmask Ghostface while he was passed out but accidentaly pushed the horn with her hand, so she decided to run instead of trying again.
Scream 2: “horror movies are ruined by sequels”
You have become the very thing you swore to destroy
Then there would be another one
Then scream 4, you were surposed to destroy the tropes not join them
It wasn’t even that bad tho
The Goat I know it’s a joke bro
I understood that reference
Two for two with Sidney socking Gail in the face. You go girl!
The 3rd rule of horror sequels is, "never ever, under any circumstance, assume the killer is dead."
I was obsessed when I was a teenager and kept a list from each movie. Apparently that rule was cut from the original theatrical release (but was in a teaser trailer). I always remember it being in the movie though.
Fun fact: at 4:37, the sheriff in this movie was played by the late Lewis Arquette, who was David Arquette's real-life father.
I love how Timothy Olyphant is in this movie, made it a real treat to revisit. He's come such a far was as an actor.
The first scream had Shaggy in it..the second one had Daphne lol!
Illumaniti, maybe 2019 will give us a scream 5 with scooby
@BrandonITS LIT if they made it happen somehow
She was an extra in the first movie
Mrs Loomis? Unexpected. I guess she only killed Randy who shouldn't insulted Billy. Not better female killer than Jill, although more wide-eyed insane
IKR, she must be related to Samuel Loomis, Michael Myers' psychologist from the "Halloween"
@Damian Prock Nah just a coincidence having same surname but nothing indicates they're related
@Mark Lynn somehow, even I'm not so sure, he could be a long lost older brother of Mrs Loomis that was several times removed
Damian Prock I think Craven just wanted to give honors to Carpenter and the Halloween franchise 😂
This was the first horror movie I saw in the theater. I hadn't even seen the original, but Scream 2 kept me up for DAYS. Of course I immediately watched the first one and doubled down on my trauma.
Seeing the contrast of the old kill counts compared to the new kill counts shows how much effort James really puts into the new ones.
8:23 "Stabbing her in the chest and dropping her like it's hot"
This is an example why Dead Meat was the best accidental channel find
James I love your show! Your energy and attitude really makes it for me. Thanks very much buddy!! I think you’re not only witty, but you can tell you really enjoy it.
You've really found your wheelhouse, James! Seriously, every episode gets better. And I'd forgotten about that detective's super gory kill. I remember the first time I saw Scream 2 and being so anxious in that scene when they crawl over Ghostface.
Aw, thanks guys
lionessblack that is true
Dead Meat do chucky next
lionessblack Being an adult now and even serving in the navy i still remember watching this movie.
This movie is what drew me to the series to begin with. It has a special place in my heart.
2017 James: welometothekillcountwherewetallyupthevictimsinallourfavoritehorrormoviesimjamesajanisseandtodaywerelookkingatscream2
2020 James: Welcome to the Kill Count! Where we tally up the victims in ALL our favorite horror movies. I'm James A. Janisse and, today, we're looking at Christine!
Love watching professionals progress in their skills.
Me too it's cool
Yeah you can tell the improvements. He’s doing similar jokes but the delivery is different. There are some small parts where u see the current James. It’s so cool to see his improvement
Cameraman joel is the smartest man in the screamverse
Fun fact: Back when they were making Scream 2, the killer reveal was originally gonna be Derek and Sidney’s roommate Hallie. But somehow, the reveals ended up getting leaked and the fans found out about it. So they had to get rid of the ending that they already had planned out, and changed it to Mrs. Loomis and Mickey being the killers. Sounds kind of interesting when you think about it.
Mickey is the most vicious killer of them all i hope james does the scream movies again because they have so much trivia he left out :( scream 5 is near and this series deserves moooore!!
Could Sidney BE any more badass?
I don't know if she could be. I really don't.
Cameron Steele Thats not possible
How YOU doin'
That over dramatic DUUUN after ghostface says do you want to die Cici makes me laugh
I love when gal shows up while Mickey is saying who’s the other killer is
I'll never get over losing Randy...
Mrs Loomis's motive is probably the only one in the series that actually makes full sense. You can't question a mother's love.
We're talking about the woman who abandoned her son.
@Sarah Henry Yes. It's called simple revenge. Someone even 'sane' could use that as a motive to do horrible things.
"cool motive, still murder."
@Jits a reference to Brooklyn 99
@Sarah Henry abandoned? She divorced her husband, my dude
I think we can all agree the opening seen with jada smith aged finer than wine
I hate and still HATE they killed Randy lime wtf?! I get it, killing a popular character raises the stakes but he was such a good character and why almost kill him in the first one then just kill him in the second and SO brutally?! and I HATE cici dying, we barely KNEW HER but SMG is AMAZING and it was horrible.
Sara Kennedy I agree, I was mostly disappointed with Cici's death Like you said we barely knew her...
I agree wholeheartedly! SMG dying in this always bugged the fuck out of me! Jamie Kennedy (Randy) was such an important character, I think it was a bullshit move killing him.
@Sara Kennedy IKRRRR. I honestly wish she could've been involved more, why not make her Randy's gf or something?? idk but i love SMG and I wanted her involved more...
@Robi I think they just wanted to play the "dead star walking" trope
Originally, Randy was supposed to be Gale's replacement cameraman.
Obviously nothing will ever beat the opening of the first Scream, particularly because it subverted expectations brilliantly by immediately killing off the biggest star in the movie.
Having said that, the opening for Scream 2 does come close, for very different reasons, and is sooooo fucking good! (Maybe not Phil’s death so much, considering how lucky Ghostface got that he put his head up against the stall _exactly_ where he needed him to at the _perfect_ time. It’s still a good jump scare though.!)
But boy does my heart go out to poor Maureen. Being killed with all of those people around but none of them believing you/grasping what the Hell is going on until it’s too late! Not only were they _not_ helping, they were actively cheering ghostface on!
Also, Jada Pinket Smith _killed_ (ha) this scene. When she broke down in front of the screen as she was succumbing to injuries, wailing and crying, it broke my goddamn heart!!!
It’s the dumbest opening scene in the franchise. Smith’s cringe over acting completely ruins the scene. But, hey, someone’s gotta enjoy mediocrity I guess.
@07foxmulder Or… I mean… art is subjective and to each their own. But I suppose you have immaculate taste and anyone who dares to have a different opinion is just flat out wrong, eh?
Oh well, I enjoy it and I’ll continue to do so regardless of what you think of my taste level. Havre a good one!
@Rad Lee I do have immaculate taste. Thank you for recognizing that.
@07foxmulder Hahahaha. Clearly, it’s my pleasure.
Man, just watching these breakdowns made me realize I need to go out and buy all these movies, NOW. This is amazing!
I tried to watch this movie but I really couldn’t, so thank you for making this video. Love the content!
I can't wait for the scream recounts. Mostly because I'd like a refreshed look at the scream franchise.
I haven’t watched dead meat for a year and I forgot how good these videos are and I have so many new ones to watch
I cried when Randy died. That was my first mistrust in movies
Rest in peace Randy
"EVERYBODY'S A SUSPECT!"
Am I the only one that thinks Randys throat was slit? If you look look closely I think it definitely looks like it
@Elina yeah I noticed that when watching.
@Skate randy was a year old when he died?
Cici's death still makes me sad to this day, she didn't deserve it and I had a thing for SMG
Not as much as tragic when she was Helen Shivers in _I Know What You Did Last Summer_ killed when she senselessly stopped to look behind while being chased
Honestly the Dewey fake out death scene and Randy's death scene are probably the best scenes in all of Scream history imo.
i absolutely loved the scene where they’re all having the debate about the sequels suck
I've been binge watching the Kill Count scream series..
.. and never regret it
The cinema kill in scream 2 was almost as good as casey beckers kill in the first movie, Almost.
only if Wes Craven was still alive
i wonder how many new slashers would be in our world...
MrOhTryMe He only died 3 and a half years ago
None, except maybe scream 5. He didn't wanna keep doing slashers.
Apparently there was gonna be a 5 and 6 to make 4-6 a sequal trilogy to 1-3
I absolutely love these videos! They motivate me to finally get my horror review channel up and running
God I love how back then they tried to play fully grown adults as teenagers.
These were not supposed to be teenagers. It's a college campus
Now that the new scream is about to come out, James you should consider a kill count recount with scream. You did a good job with the Friday the 13th one. I am sure everyone would love it.
I loved Cici she was my favorite character.
i totally agree that there isn't much gore and its all just guns and knives, but the psychological torture to Sidney is cranked up HIGH
I feel like James may become a serial killer after taking notes from these kill counts.
He kills the dislikers.
Imagine his courtroom testimony in the form of a kill count: gender distribution, Golden chainsaw for best kill, etc
these old kill counts before james came into his own are GOLD
I know it's not in this movie but, the line that reminds me of the Scream franchise the most is,
If the scream series happened in real life I think alot of people would say bet if he asked if they wanna die
Hey, I really appreciate you making these videos because I don't like watching horror movies but I want to know what happens. This way I can get a rundown of the plot with just your voice and not the suspenseful music. And, if I ever end up watching the movie, I'll know what happens and won't cower under my shirt the whole time.
The fact that Sheldon's mom played Ghostface is just perfection
Did you think of that comment yourself?
Always look forward to whatever random thing James does in the "Let's get to the numbers" section
One day I'm gonna run out of random stuff!
Not on my watch buddy, I'll brainstorm a list and send it to you if your let's get to the numbers is no longer up to par.
@Dead Meat So that was a lie
James’ improvement in his delivery is crazzzzzzzzy.
Randy’s death was sad bc one minute he’s talking with Gale and Dewey and then they find him dead in gale’s van.
He’s death was shocking bc he’s supposed to know the rules to survive horror sequel, nevertheless, was sad to see him go. I like in part 3 when the cast of Stab were talking and Tyson said,” Probably some crazy fan upset about Randy getting killed
i’m rewatching these before seeing scream 5 and wow the old kill counts are drastically different from the new ones
Seeing Sabertooth not bragging about being the killer for once is nice.
They shouldn’t have killed Randy. I like how he like horrors but warns and advise on how to survive in horror movies.
Somebody should add "Mmm whatcha say" every time a character gets shot during the final showdown.
Dead Meat drop it like its hot!
Tea&Opal or the roblox death sound every time someone dies
DeadMeat I just wanted to say I've seen nearly all of your kill counts and just wanted to acknowledge the fact that your kill counts are the best of the best and James a janisse is one hell of a narrator. Keep up the good work!
roxas sorason I’ve seen all at least 3 times
Amazing how Ghostface is one of the most iconic horror villains of all time yet he's probably the least scary
I swear Sydney is so lucky that the killer always explains there whole plan instead of just killing her or she would have died three times not counting the 4th movie because that was because Sydney survived the stabbing they were the closest to killing her
When they revealed who was behind the killing (Billy's mom) the theater I was in broke out into Boos and was throwing popcorn at the screen. It was pretty epic to see everybody just going wild in hate at the horrible twist. It's the thing I remember most about this movie, honestly.
Scream 2 still remains to be the best movie in the franchise even better than the first one
2:32 "Sequels suck"
But without sequels we wouldn't have Jason
He was in the first one.
@mjf2891 well yeah but he was a little boy and not a giant murderer and without the 2nd one, we wouldn't have a iconic murderer.
Godfather 2, Terminator 2, Spider-man 2, X-Men 2, The Dark Knight, and of course The Empire Strikes Back. Yeah! Sequels suck!!! lol
@Brendan Ibach did you say terminator2 suck
@lie yunus it was sarcastic.
So many famous actors lol Timothy Olyphant, Liev Schreiber, Jerry O'connell, SMG, Luke Wilson, Joshua Jackson, Omar Epps. Amazing.
Randy’s death being covered up by the “youths” 😂
Deputy Dewey/ David Arquette actually played in a few westerns and one of my favorites call Dead Mans Walk! Didn’t know he would be my favorite scream character as well!
Did anyone notice that Wes hints that Mickey is the killer multiple times early on?
Mickey has a VIDEO CAMERA in his hand, videoing Derek and Sidney on his second appearance, then places that same camera on the table in the cafeteria before Derek sings.
It's interesting how Mickey does the large majority of the murders and yet Mrs. Loomis still ends up being the main villain because she completely played him and only became Ghostface to get revenge on those who played a role in her son's death.
Who needs to buy horror movies when you got Dead Meat?
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I know right
Unless it’s jeepers creepers
😂 I'm always so entertained by the dance moves or movements to get to the numbers 😂
I was in a sorority in college and we were told that a romantic/sexual partner wasn't allowed to take them off of you. They meant specifically taking off any Greek letter shirts. We were also told that only a parent or spouse were allowed to wear your Greek letters (that they aren't a member of) like wearing a shirt or hat that said Phi Sigma Sigma dad.