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Putin and the Presidents: Julia Ioffe (interview) | FRONTLINE
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- Published on Jan 30, 2023 veröffentlicht
- Julia Ioffe is an American journalist who was born in Russia. She is a writer for and founding partner of the media company Puck. She previously reported on politics and world affairs for The Atlantic.
The following interview was conducted by the Kirk Documentary Group’s Michael Wiser for FRONTLINE on Sept. 28, 2022. It has been edited for clarity and length.
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I could watch her speak all day 😊
These long form interviews are always great. I hope they never stop them.
Very good interview...refreshing to see Julia to be so knowledgeable and understand geo-politics and Putins mind so well.
The way she says" he is.." "he was"..."he thought... doesn't mean at all she is aware of what he does, thinks and considers. Even ppl in Russia don't, so why would she particulary, know ? There are simply several russian journalists, who never saw him in person, who spread equal information in russian , but they do not back it with some proofs. Please note that each country supports its propaganda to justify their policy. With this war, I even start thinking i will stop get interested by politics. Any idiot could start a war and bunch of other idiots would justify why they can also start a war, and then they change ppls lives without asking. What is the use of trusting politicians and spending time of our lives in news if they will do stupid things anyway...
😂
She's a propaganda specialist . She's lying.
Incredible interview, this is real journalism
I had never heard of Julia before. I'm incredibly impressed. I follow the news pretty closely, but I've never heard anyone explain so thoroughly how we got here.
I doubt you follow news very closely as you claim.
I agree and I don't think any of the Democrat Party likes her because she has studied Russian and they kind of strike me is hating Russia for no reason
Brilliant DS operative. Watched the whole thing. One of their best. Should be on MSNBC 24/7.
@Stephen Simon 🇺🇦 Active Lab Colonel Douglas Mc Gregor, Scott Ritter for another analysis/pov.
@Maxim FM I am Ukrainian but cannot agree more ,good interview
Julia Ioffe's work demonstrates a high level of intelligence, insight, and analytical skill, and she has rightly earned a reputation as a leading voice in the field of modern journalism. Just brilliant.
This was very informative. Thank you. I believe she did an incredible job. It is so important to know what direction we are heading in America. As a native American living in New York, it feels like a ticking time bomb here.... God help us
She's a propaganda specialist.
Julia is exceptionally good and talented. Her knowledge of the Ukraine and Putin is very clear and one can understand easily. Just listening only once to her gives me the whole idea of every points or the subject and man she is talking about. Impressive,I admire and love her a lot.kudos Julia.
Talented indeed! With her mouth 😊
just cannot believe how informative this is. I'm just so glad that I decided to hear her out
More interviews with Ioffe please!
This was such a great interview.
I wish there had been one more question: would Putin have invaded Ukraine in Trump had won the election?
I think as long as Trump was potentially weakening NATO and was championing Russian interests (for example: lobbying for Russia to be let back into the G7) maybe Putin would have held off to see how much Trump could be manipulated into doing for Russia, but I’m curious to hear expert opinion on the question.
"May I add something else?" Class-act lady. Clearly the smartest person in the room, but polite to everyone.
It sounded to me she asked permission from the puppet master. The whole thing sounded scripted to me. Just sayin.
Yeah, she's quite the intellect!
This is extremely informative and insightful.
Thank you!
Seconded
Glad I watched this. Julia Loffe explains the dire predicament with much authority and knowledge, without dressing it up. Its a must see !
Great interview, very upfront and honest in my eyes.
People like her from either Russia or China tell what is really happening in the countries, the truth without covering up by the officials.
Really incredible dialog, Her analysis is right on.
Always a like before watching Julia. She is so sharp and so articulate, never fails to impress.
@L TipsTShe is not reading a teleprompter. She is a real-time thinker and speaker. An incredibly valuable resource.
Is she not reading a Teleprompt? I have to agree, if not, she is very much articulate.
Amazingly honest and frank assessment! Blown away by this interview. Very professional, informed and well considered input.
But not necessarily factual I notice. Just her opinion.
I love all her interviews. So knowledgeable and communicated so down to earth. I learn so much from her. Thanks PBS to make these raw interviews available
She looks like a white version of teanna Trump
Must be very hard for her to be part of two such different worlds. I´m from central Europe and this interview brought to me in full strength how my culture is "half-way". We´re very different from Russians and very different from Americans - and yet, we understand Russians a bit and Americans a bit... Globalization or not, we people are still children of our very specific cultures.
Very insightful. Great interview...
Julia Ioffe is always worth watching. thank you!
Julia your a champion and very interesting how you explained loosing Putin and Russia to the tiniest details, top marks and journalism Thank you ❤.
Absolutely brilliant, thank you PBS, thank you Julia.
There is something about Julia Ioffe that I could listen to her talk for hours. She has such a wealth of knowledge of what has happened and is happening in Russia. She is truly a gem.
What a great interview 👏 🙌 👌
Earlier I was captivated with her approach to subjects.
30:00-37:00 is a great segment, imo. I think it really encapsulates the difference between the Russian and American perspective on politics
The way she pronounces russian names makes me believe that she knows Russian.
I wonder how the Russian-Chinese relationship fits in this concept of Putin not percieving a win-win situation as an advantage for both parts, as Ioffe explains.
For India it is also a win-win situation. Obviously she don't see it this way.
Well, like she said, Putin is always lying, even to xi face about this no limit relationship.
Every time Julia speaks, it's an intellectual feast!! Great talk, thank you!!!
She's a propaganda specialist.
@Andrew James it hurts doesn’t it?
I realize now that is the “Capitalist” approach that created the actual situation.
Capitalist means “the beaten and now weaker side is forfeited or has no value” and opinion is worthless like saying once a World Potency Russia USSR . We invaded Iraq and destroyed a Nation with never proven accusations, Russia watched and objected since the beginning ? Putins “what about me is going to happen?” Still don’t like Russia but we could have dealt better with them.
Great great interview ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Julia should be working in the USA 🇺🇸 State Department
Wow! That was amazing and insightful! Thank you!
Fantastic interview!
Wow she is brilliant. I can't believe she's my age, what have I've been doing all this time lol. She is definitely a description of what a scholar is all about
The age of a person has nothing to do with the intelligence you either have it or you don't
@NAVSO FOUR ok Russian troll
@Gordon Campbell sure she is from Russia, that has to mean sthg :)
Zd😅
Very insightful interview. This woman is brilliant. This woman needs to be brought before congress. Both houses of congress need to listen to this lady!
Another excellent Julia Ioffe video! Thank you for making this video available to the general public.
@Anton Sobyanin No. In the first minute she straw-mans Russia. I didn't listen beyond that.
@Anton Sobyanin ...she rips off!
It's called acquiring ethos in rhetoric.
@Paparazzi Jane for the first 30 minutes, she's practically no liar, but then...
pity it's mostly a lie
Great analysis. Finally! Thank you Julia
Excellent information from someone who obviously understands Putin and Russia.
❤God Bless you for your insight and expertise.
The best information/interview!
Awesome interview 👏!
I really enjoy these well articulated interviews, very informative.
She shows her wisdom in front of the camera, which is innate, Thanks Julia❤ thanks for sharing this video ❤
Brilliant insights. WOW!
Watching this documentary now is making me sad 😞 I hope we are not bad aswell shaming others when we are the bully too :/…
Amazing insight.. That you Frontline and Julia.
Fantastic overview!
So well informed and articulate, I could listen to this lady for hours. 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Then you're a willing dupe.
And, even if I were deaf, I could look at this lady for hours.
Same
Wow full of insight, i am so blown away. Comprehensive and full of knowledge. Thank u for this
This was an extremely interesting interview.
Юля , умница и красавица.
She has that CANDIDATE action 😊
Wow. Great interview and guest
Brilliant analysis! So deep and surprisingly brief. This expert is worth a big highly-rated think tank.
Yeh she paid by one 🙄
True!
Very good reporter,she knows what she is talking about.look forward to her in the future.
So engaging. Watched the whole thing.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
She is so knowledgeable.....
Thank You, there is so much I want to say but many have said it.. I just want to say Thank you, Thank You both, most ppl don’t understand this, I wish they start to understand an believe what’s going on in the world we live in💫
She seemingly sound to be too much invested her time into this...she splendly speak out every word on caution that she gone into this for a while 👍👍 will get into her life more
Thank you, Julia, for all your research and concise presentation of these current events; tragic as they are. Journalism at its best! We really are grateful for you!
@darkonone5158 seriously!!!!! I almost feel bad for these people who are falling for her carefully crafted mind game.
@darko none right? Her parents are Soviet escapees and what they told her about their pessimism about Russia, the country that produced them. Also, she’s just like Putin, stroking public’s ego. How is Putin supposed to behave? He is the best example of a leader thus far for that country.
@darko none her parents were anti Soviet and it shows
She is making assumptions.
I can listen to this woman all day. So elegant and well informed.
elegant, that’s the perfect attribute for this beautiful intelligent eloquent lady
She has 4.4 million views because she knows her shit! Julia is a brilliant journalist. If there's one person who has taught me how we got here in such an eloquent and informed way it's Ioffe. 👏👏👏
Just discovered this woman , such a brillant lady,
Julia Ioffe is really the best. Unbelievably intelligent, knowledgeable, insightful, nuanced, eloquent, articulate, well spoken.
Thank Goodness you proved your Parents wrong! This is what parents live for to be proven wrong. You are incredible. Good Job!
The man who invented arts language
Julia's insights are crystal clear and hard hitting. Thank you!
@Trent Gustus AGREED! She is deliberately missing the mark me thinks! So much information regurgitated as though really true! She seems to know Putin's mind! His thoughts. And even believes the propaganda against him!
No, they are not, not even close
What a fascinating video. The questions that were posed and the answers were very insightful. Great work on this masterpiece
What an eye opener! Everything she says makes so much sense and she's not even making an effort to convince anyone.
@hiteck007 Yeah, she's beautiful, knowledgeable and seems somewhat arrogant about. I can see why many people will have a problem with that ...
Now, I am old and not so beautiful, but I was born and grew up behind the Iron Curtain. I do not agree on everything (I rarely agree on anything with most of the people since most of the people are idiots) but I agree with her on most things Russian and Putin in particular.
Yeah, most of the coddled Western minds may have problems with it. I don't care. Neither she does. She already simplified things so the ADDS-suffering Western public will be able to get at least some of it.
Facts? You cannot deal with most of them anyway!
@BruceD1776 Well, I am not sure what is your background.
I have not found much new stuff or insightful stuff in this interview, but it is only because I had known all that stuff for a long time.
But I also find that many of the citizens of the West should learn most of the stuff said here.
Great interview!!!
Indeed a very deep and objective analysis about the Putin's ego. Such interview being very focused, without slipping into subjective or conspiratorial considerations Thank you Julia Loffe!
Really thoughtful commentary. Thankyou.
Fascinating interview so much great information shared ~ Thank You Julia 🙏
She's a propaganda specialist .
@Lolocemoi Popo and what did russia do after? Invade ex soviet nations left and right.............
Also those NATO nations JOINED WILLINGLY
@Novo Rossian You are absolutely right, that' s why your comment has just been shadowbanned (you can log out andsee for yourself). I still can read it but not other people.
Like how she said that her parents never believed she would get a job by specializing in Russian studies and then she smiled...😊
Oh, how our parents have been wrong in predicting career trends to the current generation 🙄
But I also love her ability to explain stuff about Russia in a way that ordinary people like me can understand, I believe that's how discussions that are aimed at informing the public should be....simple to understand, yet informative and helpful 👍 👏
And I have found her from this video to be intelligent and eloquent too 👏
🙋👏
“There’s this unmistakable stench of weakness about him.” Wow. What a brilliant analysis.
You mean Biden absolutely, don't see any of that in President Putin.
I love her analysis
Outstanding!
This interview kept my attention the entire time. I'm forwarding to others in my social group.
I really appreciate the clarity that your guest brought into the discussion on what is going through Putin’s mind from the time before the Crimea invasion to now. Very articulate! Thanks for such a wonderful educational video.
@Chris Wade she's a propaganda specialist . She lied a lot .
She's a propaganda specialist .
@Nikola Avramov I am stone cold sober, and as a matter of fact, I never drink. I wouldn't call Ioffe racist in the least. Please point to why and how exactly you were led to that belief.
One of the most insightful interviews I’ve ever heard regarding Russia
The 😢
Propaganda.
How do you say that in American... Yo have a right to be wrong.
Finally there's someone in american media calling things as they are. I'm ukrainian, I know russian agenda very well and Julia said 100% true things like when russians treat americans as stupid and Ukraine as a joke
As they shoukd. Both proved to be true again amd again
@Clip-Share- Sucks- can you prove that you are a banana
Ironic all things considered
This woman is extremely well informed, like how she doesn't pull punches regarding her own country either, that isa proper take.
Too much focus on personalities. Perhaps that makes her views more relatable, but they are also oversimplistic.
The interviews with Ms. Ioffe are insightful, the best source of understanding I have seen.
She needs to say the right words to keep her Job 😅. So Ukraine is the battle field for the US and Russia. Both countries are insane! let’s hope China makes the peace deal, as China is the top dog and the new world ruler.
@denovo62 Name a lie. Be specific and provide a source.
She's excellent.
This was a great interview!
she is right up there with the other long time experts of us/russia.. certainly better than Bolton. lol.. you are pretty astute yourself jake broe.. been watching your vids every day. take care. also, thank for your continued service!
2nd interview of her I have watched recently. The other one is on amanpour and company. Well worth watching.
Reinforces my belief that Putin going is the only way this ends
She frightened me to death
Thanks for the suggestion Jake!
Utterly amazing interview, trenchant questions, incredibly insightful analysis by Julia Ioffe. This interview is going to be famous and much sent around to friends and colleagues (all of whom will be receiving the link from me). LOVE the long format that allows so much more nuance and interpretative depth. Please Keep it up!
Very, very good Speech, and very good Voice, and perfect English too, and she knows Things too. Women, she is very big Specialist about russian Politic!!!
Wah that's a deep dive, clean narrative, beautiful work
Have to keep in mind that it's just her perspective
But it sounds very coherant and could be close to "truth"
This woman is very hypnotic. She has one of those faces and a voice that most people can relate to. it's not difficult to understand why she's been chosen for the role... She's dangerous!
She's a propaganda specialist .
She's both intelligent and beautiful are words that describe most accurately in my opinion.
Julia is a consummate professional. We need to hear more from her.
Thank you Madam for telling the truth like if it wasn't the truth....very well done!
I actually believed him in this interview. I respect him for having the balls to come on. I don’t know another member that would face the music head on like this
One of the most crucial minds on the underlying issues which have driven this war.
Thank you.
33:59 If I could show everybody on the world a citation out of this, it would be this one and the following minutes
Beautiful intelligent well informed fair lady
Awesome interview, straight to the point and everything well said as it is. Very knowledgeable lady.
Julia Ioffe is really the best. Unbelievably intelligent, knowledgeable, insightful, nuanced, eloquent, articulate, well spoken. Absolutely brilliant!
@Image Collections what????
@Steelninja's Gaming she is definitely both - pretty and beautiful. Beside that, cultivated, intelligent, a real gem
Amazing and well said ,,,, Just absolutely, Amazing Julia Loffe!!! Thank you for your time and Interview.. I listened to every word an you, you my dear 100% opened my eyes and taught me a thing or 2 and thats not something a lot of people can actually do But, you are amazing my dear! amazing Hr ,you just absolutely crushed it while looking amazing . Thumbs Up! GOod luck
No only if it was factual what a joke you people are
This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen. I love watching this woman I love listening to her and unlike most Western journalism on Putin this all sounds very believable and well researched. Thank you for this