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Putin and the Presidents: Julia Ioffe (interview) | FRONTLINE

  • Published on Jan 30, 2023 veröffentlicht
  • Julia Ioffe is an American journalist who was born in Russia. She is a writer for and founding partner of the media company Puck. She previously reported on politics and world affairs for The Atlantic.
    The following interview was conducted by the Kirk Documentary Group’s Michael Wiser for FRONTLINE on Sept. 28, 2022. It has been edited for clarity and length.
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  • Raymond Esquivel
    Raymond Esquivel 15 days ago +11

    I could watch her speak all day 😊

  • Turd Doodlesworth
    Turd Doodlesworth 22 days ago +23

    These long form interviews are always great. I hope they never stop them.

  • Alex Inocan
    Alex Inocan 29 days ago +11

    Very good interview...refreshing to see Julia to be so knowledgeable and understand geo-politics and Putins mind so well.

    • SmeWnulya
      SmeWnulya 2 days ago

      The way she says" he is.." "he was"..."he thought... doesn't mean at all she is aware of what he does, thinks and considers. Even ppl in Russia don't, so why would she particulary, know ? There are simply several russian journalists, who never saw him in person, who spread equal information in russian , but they do not back it with some proofs. Please note that each country supports its propaganda to justify their policy. With this war, I even start thinking i will stop get interested by politics. Any idiot could start a war and bunch of other idiots would justify why they can also start a war, and then they change ppls lives without asking. What is the use of trusting politicians and spending time of our lives in news if they will do stupid things anyway...

    • SmeWnulya
      SmeWnulya 2 days ago


    • Downey 2000
      Downey 2000 18 days ago

      She's a propaganda specialist . She's lying.

  • M0nkey
    M0nkey 6 days ago +2

    Incredible interview, this is real journalism

  • Active Lab
    Active Lab Month ago +205

    I had never heard of Julia before. I'm incredibly impressed. I follow the news pretty closely, but I've never heard anyone explain so thoroughly how we got here.

    • Lalo Salamanca
      Lalo Salamanca 14 days ago

      I doubt you follow news very closely as you claim.

    • Noah Patterson
      Noah Patterson 17 days ago

      I agree and I don't think any of the Democrat Party likes her because she has studied Russian and they kind of strike me is hating Russia for no reason

    • Jack Bothma
      Jack Bothma 17 days ago

      Brilliant DS operative. Watched the whole thing. One of their best. Should be on MSNBC 24/7.

    • Stuart Moore
      Stuart Moore 20 days ago

      @Stephen Simon 🇺🇦 Active Lab Colonel Douglas Mc Gregor, Scott Ritter for another analysis/pov.

    • Alla
      Alla 22 days ago +1

      @Maxim FM I am Ukrainian but cannot agree more ,good interview

  • Sim Deck
    Sim Deck 17 days ago +43

    Julia Ioffe's work demonstrates a high level of intelligence, insight, and analytical skill, and she has rightly earned a reputation as a leading voice in the field of modern journalism. Just brilliant.


    This was very informative. Thank you. I believe she did an incredible job. It is so important to know what direction we are heading in America. As a native American living in New York, it feels like a ticking time bomb here.... God help us

    • Downey 2000
      Downey 2000 18 days ago

      She's a propaganda specialist.

  • a.s angkz
    a.s angkz 22 days ago +12

    Julia is exceptionally good and talented. Her knowledge of the Ukraine and Putin is very clear and one can understand easily. Just listening only once to her gives me the whole idea of every points or the subject and man she is talking about. Impressive,I admire and love her a lot.kudos Julia.

    • Kirill Bykov
      Kirill Bykov 10 days ago

      Talented indeed! With her mouth 😊

  • tim addison
    tim addison 13 days ago +11

    just cannot believe how informative this is. I'm just so glad that I decided to hear her out

  • C
    C Month ago +52

    More interviews with Ioffe please!

  • Maargen Bx
    Maargen Bx Month ago +5

    This was such a great interview.
    I wish there had been one more question: would Putin have invaded Ukraine in Trump had won the election?
    I think as long as Trump was potentially weakening NATO and was championing Russian interests (for example: lobbying for Russia to be let back into the G7) maybe Putin would have held off to see how much Trump could be manipulated into doing for Russia, but I’m curious to hear expert opinion on the question.

  • Ellen March
    Ellen March 18 days ago +31

    "May I add something else?" Class-act lady. Clearly the smartest person in the room, but polite to everyone.

  • Claudio Marinangeli
    Claudio Marinangeli Month ago +45

    This is extremely informative and insightful.
    Thank you!

  • Peter Bustin
    Peter Bustin Month ago +3

    Glad I watched this. Julia Loffe explains the dire predicament with much authority and knowledge, without dressing it up. Its a must see !

  • steven Andrews
    steven Andrews Month ago +15

    Great interview, very upfront and honest in my eyes.

  • Clark Isaac
    Clark Isaac 8 days ago +2

    People like her from either Russia or China tell what is really happening in the countries, the truth without covering up by the officials.

  • Michael Walendzik
    Michael Walendzik Month ago +12

    Really incredible dialog, Her analysis is right on.

  • Shimo Kitazawa
    Shimo Kitazawa 19 days ago +22

    Always a like before watching Julia. She is so sharp and so articulate, never fails to impress.

    • Morgan Bailey
      Morgan Bailey 9 days ago +1

      @L TipsTShe is not reading a teleprompter. She is a real-time thinker and speaker. An incredibly valuable resource.

    • L TipsT
      L TipsT 10 days ago

      Is she not reading a Teleprompt? I have to agree, if not, she is very much articulate.

  • Billie Jo Bogden
    Billie Jo Bogden Month ago +58

    Amazingly honest and frank assessment! Blown away by this interview. Very professional, informed and well considered input.

    • Victor Samsung
      Victor Samsung 23 days ago

      But not necessarily factual I notice. Just her opinion.

  • C J
    C J 13 days ago +25

    I love all her interviews. So knowledgeable and communicated so down to earth. I learn so much from her. Thanks PBS to make these raw interviews available

    • shayla watson
      shayla watson 6 days ago

      She looks like a white version of teanna Trump

  • MartaVdz
    MartaVdz Month ago +2

    Must be very hard for her to be part of two such different worlds. I´m from central Europe and this interview brought to me in full strength how my culture is "half-way". We´re very different from Russians and very different from Americans - and yet, we understand Russians a bit and Americans a bit... Globalization or not, we people are still children of our very specific cultures.

  • Lovelife
    Lovelife Month ago +15

    Very insightful. Great interview...

  • SynthSun
    SynthSun 24 days ago +6

    Julia Ioffe is always worth watching. thank you!

  • Beau Maxwell
    Beau Maxwell 13 days ago +1

    Julia your a champion and very interesting how you explained loosing Putin and Russia to the tiniest details, top marks and journalism Thank you ❤.

  • Elimar Orlopp
    Elimar Orlopp Month ago +27

    Absolutely brilliant, thank you PBS, thank you Julia.

    • Lynn Bardwell
      Lynn Bardwell Month ago

      There is something about Julia Ioffe that I could listen to her talk for hours. She has such a wealth of knowledge of what has happened and is happening in Russia. She is truly a gem.

  • Ana Bonilla
    Ana Bonilla Month ago +9

    What a great interview 👏 🙌 👌

  • John B
    John B 12 days ago +1

    Earlier I was captivated with her approach to subjects.

  • Mike Murphy
    Mike Murphy Month ago +3

    30:00-37:00 is a great segment, imo. I think it really encapsulates the difference between the Russian and American perspective on politics

  • Bekzod Turaev
    Bekzod Turaev 2 days ago

    The way she pronounces russian names makes me believe that she knows Russian.

  • Alvaro Otero
    Alvaro Otero Month ago +10

    I wonder how the Russian-Chinese relationship fits in this concept of Putin not percieving a win-win situation as an advantage for both parts, as Ioffe explains.

    • Ange Urbain
      Ange Urbain 18 days ago

      For India it is also a win-win situation. Obviously she don't see it this way.

    • Huy Nguyen
      Huy Nguyen Month ago +2

      Well, like she said, Putin is always lying, even to xi face about this no limit relationship.

  • Andrew Shvaygert
    Andrew Shvaygert Month ago +43

    Every time Julia speaks, it's an intellectual feast!! Great talk, thank you!!!

    • Downey 2000
      Downey 2000 18 days ago

      She's a propaganda specialist.

    • David Rivera
      David Rivera Month ago

      @Andrew James it hurts doesn’t it?
      I realize now that is the “Capitalist” approach that created the actual situation.
      Capitalist means “the beaten and now weaker side is forfeited or has no value” and opinion is worthless like saying once a World Potency Russia USSR . We invaded Iraq and destroyed a Nation with never proven accusations, Russia watched and objected since the beginning ? Putins “what about me is going to happen?” Still don’t like Russia but we could have dealt better with them.

  • Alexia Torrez
    Alexia Torrez Month ago +13

    Great great interview ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Julia should be working in the USA 🇺🇸 State Department

  • Will Berger
    Will Berger Month ago +15

    Wow! That was amazing and insightful! Thank you!

  • Mrinalini Kutty
    Mrinalini Kutty Month ago +9

    Fantastic interview!

  • Devo OS
    Devo OS 20 days ago +29

    Wow she is brilliant. I can't believe she's my age, what have I've been doing all this time lol. She is definitely a description of what a scholar is all about

    • Cipriano Magana
      Cipriano Magana 6 days ago +1

      The age of a person has nothing to do with the intelligence you either have it or you don't

    • Wanderlust in Berlin
      Wanderlust in Berlin 9 days ago

      @NAVSO FOUR ok Russian troll

      NAVSO FOUR 10 days ago

      @Gordon Campbell sure she is from Russia, that has to mean sthg :)

    • Gordon Campbell
      Gordon Campbell 10 days ago


  • Jorge Font
    Jorge Font 15 days ago

    Very insightful interview. This woman is brilliant. This woman needs to be brought before congress. Both houses of congress need to listen to this lady!

  • Peter H
    Peter H Month ago +88

    Another excellent Julia Ioffe video! Thank you for making this video available to the general public.

    • Red-baitingSwine
      Red-baitingSwine Month ago

      @Anton Sobyanin No. In the first minute she straw-mans Russia. I didn't listen beyond that.

    • Paparazzi Jane
      Paparazzi Jane Month ago

      @Anton Sobyanin ...she rips off!
      It's called acquiring ethos in rhetoric.

    • Anton Sobyanin
      Anton Sobyanin Month ago +1

      @Paparazzi Jane for the first 30 minutes, she's practically no liar, but then...

    • Paparazzi Jane
      Paparazzi Jane Month ago +7

      pity it's mostly a lie

  • Vlad Kogan
    Vlad Kogan Month ago +12

    Great analysis. Finally! Thank you Julia

  • Michael Newberry
    Michael Newberry Month ago +2

    Excellent information from someone who obviously understands Putin and Russia.

  • JON Gergeceff
    JON Gergeceff 14 days ago +1

    ❤God Bless you for your insight and expertise.

  • Diogo Fernandes
    Diogo Fernandes 19 days ago +1

    The best information/interview!

  • Mike Patterson
    Mike Patterson Month ago +17

    Awesome interview 👏!

  • Jeremy_CollardGreens
    Jeremy_CollardGreens Month ago +45

    I really enjoy these well articulated interviews, very informative.

  • Danny Lam
    Danny Lam Month ago +1

    She shows her wisdom in front of the camera, which is innate, Thanks Julia❤ thanks for sharing this video ❤

  • Peter Dennis
    Peter Dennis Month ago +7

    Brilliant insights. WOW!

  • Iam The Light
    Iam The Light 13 days ago +2

    Watching this documentary now is making me sad 😞 I hope we are not bad aswell shaming others when we are the bully too :/…

  • Bud Man
    Bud Man 23 days ago +1

    Amazing insight.. That you Frontline and Julia.

  • Renegade
    Renegade Month ago +9

    Fantastic overview!

  • Kathie C
    Kathie C Month ago +94

    So well informed and articulate, I could listen to this lady for hours. 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • MysticFrost
    MysticFrost Month ago +6

    Wow full of insight, i am so blown away. Comprehensive and full of knowledge. Thank u for this

  • __
    __ Month ago +7

    This was an extremely interesting interview.

  • Goodwin Man
    Goodwin Man Month ago

    Юля , умница и красавица.

  • Raymond Esquivel
    Raymond Esquivel 15 days ago +1

    She has that CANDIDATE action 😊

  • Jerry Olivarez
    Jerry Olivarez 19 days ago +1

    Wow. Great interview and guest

  • AL
    AL Month ago +70

    Brilliant analysis! So deep and surprisingly brief. This expert is worth a big highly-rated think tank.

  • Len Wilkinson
    Len Wilkinson Month ago +17

    Very good reporter,she knows what she is talking about.look forward to her in the future.

  • laika25
    laika25 Month ago +8

    So engaging. Watched the whole thing.

  • F.A.Y., ,,,,,, Make It Happen

    She is so knowledgeable.....

  • Dealing with JayKing
    Dealing with JayKing Month ago +2

    Thank You, there is so much I want to say but many have said it.. I just want to say Thank you, Thank You both, most ppl don’t understand this, I wish they start to understand an believe what’s going on in the world we live in💫

  • ibu ukere
    ibu ukere Month ago +3

    She seemingly sound to be too much invested her time into this...she splendly speak out every word on caution that she gone into this for a while 👍👍 will get into her life more

  • Christy Thompson
    Christy Thompson Month ago +181

    Thank you, Julia, for all your research and concise presentation of these current events; tragic as they are. Journalism at its best! We really are grateful for you!

    • M Moxam
      M Moxam Month ago

      @darkonone5158 seriously!!!!! I almost feel bad for these people who are falling for her carefully crafted mind game.

    • innagotavita
      innagotavita Month ago +1

      @darko none right? Her parents are Soviet escapees and what they told her about their pessimism about Russia, the country that produced them. Also, she’s just like Putin, stroking public’s ego. How is Putin supposed to behave? He is the best example of a leader thus far for that country.

    • innagotavita
      innagotavita Month ago +3

      @darko none her parents were anti Soviet and it shows

    • innagotavita
      innagotavita Month ago +4

      She is making assumptions.

  • Joel Sanchez
    Joel Sanchez Month ago +22

    I can listen to this woman all day. So elegant and well informed.

    • Emanuel L
      Emanuel L Month ago +1

      elegant, that’s the perfect attribute for this beautiful intelligent eloquent lady

  • Jason Anderson
    Jason Anderson Month ago +9

    She has 4.4 million views because she knows her shit! Julia is a brilliant journalist. If there's one person who has taught me how we got here in such an eloquent and informed way it's Ioffe. 👏👏👏

    RICHARD POIRIER Month ago +11

    Just discovered this woman , such a brillant lady,
    Julia Ioffe is really the best. Unbelievably intelligent, knowledgeable, insightful, nuanced, eloquent, articulate, well spoken.

  • Michael W. McCarrin
    Michael W. McCarrin Month ago +5

    Thank Goodness you proved your Parents wrong! This is what parents live for to be proven wrong. You are incredible. Good Job!

  • R Rota
    R Rota Month ago +4

    The man who invented arts language

  • Simon Birch
    Simon Birch Month ago +44

    Julia's insights are crystal clear and hard hitting. Thank you!

    • Valdeera Cruso
      Valdeera Cruso Month ago +2

      @Trent Gustus AGREED! She is deliberately missing the mark me thinks! So much information regurgitated as though really true! She seems to know Putin's mind! His thoughts. And even believes the propaganda against him!

    • Trent Gustus
      Trent Gustus Month ago +6

      No, they are not, not even close

  • Lee Lee
    Lee Lee 23 days ago +3

    What a fascinating video. The questions that were posed and the answers were very insightful. Great work on this masterpiece

  • Zop Tu
    Zop Tu Month ago +29

    What an eye opener! Everything she says makes so much sense and she's not even making an effort to convince anyone.

    • Bogdan Baudis
      Bogdan Baudis Month ago +1

      @hiteck007 Yeah, she's beautiful, knowledgeable and seems somewhat arrogant about. I can see why many people will have a problem with that ...
      Now, I am old and not so beautiful, but I was born and grew up behind the Iron Curtain. I do not agree on everything (I rarely agree on anything with most of the people since most of the people are idiots) but I agree with her on most things Russian and Putin in particular.
      Yeah, most of the coddled Western minds may have problems with it. I don't care. Neither she does. She already simplified things so the ADDS-suffering Western public will be able to get at least some of it.
      Facts? You cannot deal with most of them anyway!

    • Bogdan Baudis
      Bogdan Baudis Month ago +2

      @BruceD1776 Well, I am not sure what is your background.
      I have not found much new stuff or insightful stuff in this interview, but it is only because I had known all that stuff for a long time.
      But I also find that many of the citizens of the West should learn most of the stuff said here.

  • Francois Levert
    Francois Levert Month ago +8

    Great interview!!!

  • Antonio Soares
    Antonio Soares Month ago +3

    Indeed a very deep and objective analysis about the Putin's ego. Such interview being very focused, without slipping into subjective or conspiratorial considerations Thank you Julia Loffe!

  • BigBoyh64
    BigBoyh64 Month ago +5

    Really thoughtful commentary. Thankyou.

  • Patrick Moriarty
    Patrick Moriarty Month ago +60

    Fascinating interview so much great information shared ~ Thank You Julia 🙏

    • Downey 2000
      Downey 2000 18 days ago +2

      She's a propaganda specialist .

    • Marius Catalin
      Marius Catalin Month ago

      @Lolocemoi Popo and what did russia do after? Invade ex soviet nations left and right.............
      Also those NATO nations JOINED WILLINGLY

    • Lolocemoi Popo
      Lolocemoi Popo Month ago +1

      @Novo Rossian You are absolutely right, that' s why your comment has just been shadowbanned (you can log out andsee for yourself). I still can read it but not other people.

  • Múgíkuyu
    Múgíkuyu Month ago +32

    Like how she said that her parents never believed she would get a job by specializing in Russian studies and then she smiled...😊
    Oh, how our parents have been wrong in predicting career trends to the current generation 🙄
    But I also love her ability to explain stuff about Russia in a way that ordinary people like me can understand, I believe that's how discussions that are aimed at informing the public should be....simple to understand, yet informative and helpful 👍 👏
    And I have found her from this video to be intelligent and eloquent too 👏

  • Michael Layton
    Michael Layton 26 days ago +11

    “There’s this unmistakable stench of weakness about him.” Wow. What a brilliant analysis.

    • HumbleWolfFX
      HumbleWolfFX 24 days ago +2

      You mean Biden absolutely, don't see any of that in President Putin.

    RAMON BAPTIST Month ago +2

    I love her analysis

  • Robert Bruce
    Robert Bruce Month ago +1


  • Warren Reid
    Warren Reid Month ago +3

    This interview kept my attention the entire time. I'm forwarding to others in my social group.

  • gordon lee
    gordon lee Month ago +43

    I really appreciate the clarity that your guest brought into the discussion on what is going through Putin’s mind from the time before the Crimea invasion to now. Very articulate! Thanks for such a wonderful educational video.

    • Downey 2000
      Downey 2000 18 days ago +1

      @Chris Wade she's a propaganda specialist . She lied a lot .

    • Downey 2000
      Downey 2000 18 days ago +2

      She's a propaganda specialist .

    • Terence Doherty
      Terence Doherty 26 days ago +1

      @Nikola Avramov I am stone cold sober, and as a matter of fact, I never drink. I wouldn't call Ioffe racist in the least. Please point to why and how exactly you were led to that belief.

  • Mike Faz NYC
    Mike Faz NYC Month ago +24

    One of the most insightful interviews I’ve ever heard regarding Russia

  • Tetiana
    Tetiana Month ago +46

    Finally there's someone in american media calling things as they are. I'm ukrainian, I know russian agenda very well and Julia said 100% true things like when russians treat americans as stupid and Ukraine as a joke

      YOUR-WORSHIP Month ago

      As they shoukd. Both proved to be true again amd again

    • Tetiana
      Tetiana Month ago +5

      @Clip-Share- Sucks- can you prove that you are a banana

    • A Dak
      A Dak Month ago +1

      Ironic all things considered

  • Ann Nee
    Ann Nee Month ago +10

    This woman is extremely well informed, like how she doesn't pull punches regarding her own country either, that isa proper take.

    • gdi wolverine male 2
      gdi wolverine male 2 Month ago +1

      Too much focus on personalities. Perhaps that makes her views more relatable, but they are also oversimplistic.

  • Don Balduf
    Don Balduf Month ago +21

    The interviews with Ms. Ioffe are insightful, the best source of understanding I have seen.

    • chris browning
      chris browning Month ago

      She needs to say the right words to keep her Job 😅. So Ukraine is the battle field for the US and Russia. Both countries are insane! let’s hope China makes the peace deal, as China is the top dog and the new world ruler.

    • Don Balduf
      Don Balduf Month ago +1

      @denovo62 Name a lie. Be specific and provide a source.

  • John Tucker
    John Tucker Month ago +1

    She's excellent.

  • Jake Broe
    Jake Broe Month ago +27

    This was a great interview!

    • Jay Ham
      Jay Ham Month ago

      she is right up there with the other long time experts of us/russia.. certainly better than Bolton. lol.. you are pretty astute yourself jake broe.. been watching your vids every day. take care. also, thank for your continued service!

    • NoName
      NoName Month ago

      2nd interview of her I have watched recently. The other one is on amanpour and company. Well worth watching.
      Reinforces my belief that Putin going is the only way this ends
      She frightened me to death

    • Atomicriffmaster
      Atomicriffmaster Month ago

      Thanks for the suggestion Jake!

  • James Loney
    James Loney Month ago +12

    Utterly amazing interview, trenchant questions, incredibly insightful analysis by Julia Ioffe. This interview is going to be famous and much sent around to friends and colleagues (all of whom will be receiving the link from me). LOVE the long format that allows so much more nuance and interpretative depth. Please Keep it up!

  • Satelit Internet
    Satelit Internet Month ago +9

    Very, very good Speech, and very good Voice, and perfect English too, and she knows Things too. Women, she is very big Specialist about russian Politic!!!

  • Pierre-Yves Machavoine

    Wah that's a deep dive, clean narrative, beautiful work
    Have to keep in mind that it's just her perspective
    But it sounds very coherant and could be close to "truth"

  • Harvardfacebook
    Harvardfacebook Month ago +5

    This woman is very hypnotic. She has one of those faces and a voice that most people can relate to. it's not difficult to understand why she's been chosen for the role... She's dangerous!

    • Downey 2000
      Downey 2000 18 days ago +1

      She's a propaganda specialist .

  • 阿倫
    阿倫 Month ago +1

    She's both intelligent and beautiful are words that describe most accurately in my opinion.

  • Lightsoutlightson1
    Lightsoutlightson1 Month ago +32

    Julia is a consummate professional. We need to hear more from her.

  • Filipe Albuquerque
    Filipe Albuquerque Month ago +2

    Thank you Madam for telling the truth like if it wasn't the truth....very well done!

  • Jonathan Ballard
    Jonathan Ballard Month ago +3

    I actually believed him in this interview. I respect him for having the balls to come on. I don’t know another member that would face the music head on like this

  • Matthew Manokhina-Gallegos

    One of the most crucial minds on the underlying issues which have driven this war.
    Thank you.

  • VeryNice
    VeryNice 22 days ago +1

    33:59 If I could show everybody on the world a citation out of this, it would be this one and the following minutes

  • Emanuel L
    Emanuel L Month ago +1

    Beautiful intelligent well informed fair lady

  • Aikiro Kurabe
    Aikiro Kurabe Month ago +32

    Awesome interview, straight to the point and everything well said as it is. Very knowledgeable lady.

  • ClassicusHomo
    ClassicusHomo Month ago +79

    Julia Ioffe is really the best. Unbelievably intelligent, knowledgeable, insightful, nuanced, eloquent, articulate, well spoken. Absolutely brilliant!

    • Emanuel L
      Emanuel L 19 days ago

      @Image Collections what????

    • Emanuel L
      Emanuel L Month ago

      @Steelninja's Gaming she is definitely both - pretty and beautiful. Beside that, cultivated, intelligent, a real gem

  • D Ray
    D Ray Month ago +5

    Amazing and well said ,,,, Just absolutely, Amazing Julia Loffe!!! Thank you for your time and Interview.. I listened to every word an you, you my dear 100% opened my eyes and taught me a thing or 2 and thats not something a lot of people can actually do But, you are amazing my dear! amazing Hr ,you just absolutely crushed it while looking amazing . Thumbs Up! GOod luck

  • Jamal Johnson
    Jamal Johnson Month ago +2

    This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen. I love watching this woman I love listening to her and unlike most Western journalism on Putin this all sounds very believable and well researched. Thank you for this