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The pod go is the one and only time I got a pedal that I couldn’t find a single thing I liked. The limitations of control when running it into a combo tube and lack of overall volume controls ? I had to just sell it. Now I’ve spent the last 18 months deciding which of the big boys I wanna go with and be done.
The BOSS GT-1000 (full-size) should definitely be on your list of modelers to review and sell presets for. It's a tone monster for a fraction of the price as these other ones.
Thanks for such an in-depth video. All your points are valid...from experience! I was a strict boutique tube amp guy with pedalboard. I tried the Fractal FM3 and could not believe how good it sounded and felt. But, the CPU limitations were a problem. I decided to try a Helix and sent it right back. The tone was not the same as the Fractal and even though it's a true "all-in-one", I didn't like the feel of the expression pedal and I was stuck with it. So back to FM3 I went. Meanwhile, I put my name on the list for an FM9. A year later, I'm still waiting. So I bit the bullet and bought a AXE-FX III and FC12. Love it! I'm still very interested in the FM9 when ever I get the invite to buy one. It will be nice to lose carrying around the 3-space rack my AXE-FX is in. I recently heard a demo of a Helix vs. FM9 playing a U2 song. The Helix was thin with some fizz on in. The fractal had a nice organic fat Vox tone with out the extra fizz.
Helix for me! I just got my second one after trying a pedalboard with a stomp. I loved the stomp + pedalboard but the cost of trying to get the same pedals/tones out of something the same size or smaller than the Helix is pretty much impossible!
The current generation of modelers have been out for several years now and I wouldn’t be surprised to see new products from all the manufacturers, but that being said, I doubt they can get much better sounding, they can improve interface, DSP, fine tune effects, but forward leaps have been shorter and shorter as new products come out
It's Kemper for me. Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt.
With the latest 3.5 firmware for the heliX... The capability to run duel ir, While selecting 12 different mics and adjusting their position, distance, and axis, is unbelievably game-changing for the final guitar tones you can achieve!!
I’ve had the helix. Then went to Kemper. After that, Quad Cortex. Just got the FM9. FM9 right out of the box is absolutely the best tone. However I still don’t understand the UI. Quad Cortex overall is the winner if you care about UI.
Personally and after owning several models from each the three kings…Kemper Stage/Toaster/Rack, Fractal AX8/FM3 and L6 HD500/Helix I’ve found exactly what I was looking for from these type of devices with the Quad Cortex “capture” feature. QC captures are so authentic. I use a Dunlop mini volume/expression pedal to allow assigning dual-functionality; going between volume and expression assignments per preset via one tap on a QC footswitch. I had a huge pedalboard (21 total) built around three Kingsley tube preamps and an array of top-shelf pedals e.g. Strymon, Eventide, Analogman, Klon etc… After capturing the Kingsley preamps I’ve been able to use the QC exclusively. There really are no wrong answers between the modelers, it’s just a matter of personnel preference;)
@Worship Tutorials Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp in the head/rack. "Pedal captures" do not capture how pedals really interact with a given paired amp.
@Worship Tutorials You guys do a such a great job with your tutorials and demos…very inspiring, informative and helpful - Thanks!
We did a huge QC/Kemper/Amp shoot out on our other channel (clip-share.net/video/evYBrwSfTAU/video.html), and QC definitely was more accurate to the real amp to us.The more we use QC, the more impressed we are with it.
Your Duelist drive captures on the Cortex Cloud are insane. Some of my favorite captures out there.
THIS VIDEO IS SOOOOOO GOOD!!!!! So many times, Ive wondered about which way to go when the time does come for me to purchase one. I almost always lean towards the Helix but, Axe FX and Kemper and QC are also all very appealing for multiple reasons. About a year ago, I was conversing with a friend specifically about the Helix & the Kemper.......aged old question......Which is "better"? His response was, "I can do a world tour with either one". I think that idea goes across the board for the modelers mentioned here. Thanks Brian & Bradford! You guys ROCK!!!!!!
This is the best review I've ever seen of all these units together....great stuff.
Probably wont get much LOVE here, but after testing a lot of the "budget" options, I went with with a Valeton GP-200, instead of the Line -6 Pod Go. Its just better I think, The time based effects are not very good, So worship use might not be the way to go, But the amp models and basic effects, drives etc are totally legit. Very impressive for basically FREE.
I have used a Pod Go and Helix LT and haven't had issues using them at church nor at home.
This is a great resource. Thanks for putting this together. Like you said, very few people have the opportunity to actually spend time trying all of these products.
Thanks to your information, I decided to pick up a Helix LT. Picked it up yesterday, I absolutely love it!!
You should try the Headrush MX5 for no other reason than it has the same power as the full pedalboard. It really does sound good.
@Samson here. clip-share.net/video/7JDkRLXnKZg/video.html
@George Mavimbela ok where?
@Samson check this guy. He has free and good presets.clip-share.net/video/7JDkRLXnKZg/video.html
@Samson I'll send u a link on the comments below
@Bradford Mitchell If ease of use and great tones are not for you then no shame in getting a Kemper :) The Headrush is also an all in one unit.
The Headrush Gang must unite and face these forces of evil!!In all seriousness though, the MX5 fills a gap in the market. It's a small form factor of the bigger unit without compromising on power, which is not something any other brands can say from what I've seen. Seriously powerful unit, and I'm using one for worship. You guys should definitely check it out.
@Samson I believe New Vintage Audio has presets for the Pedalboard and Gigboard, you can add those to the MX5 and just set the footswitches accordingly. I'm not aware of other sites/platforms that sell Headrush presets, cos I personally like to fiddle and experiment. Hopefully some other users can recommend other sources 👌🏽
Do you know where I casn find some worship sounds, pads, presets for MX5?
I’ve had helix, kemper, fm3 .But quad cortex on another level.
Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt.
Quad cortex hands down is the best. The tone is so good I mean you can hear other parts of your guitar when you're just moving things around. The responsiveness is incredible. I have tonally perfect captures of dumbles and klons for free. Like $240,000 worth of amps and pedals for free. That's incredible that you can share these nearly perfect captures with anyone.
Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt. Your "pedal captures" do not capture how pedals really interact with a given paired amp.
I've been using Helix Floor for last 6 years and I love it but... Recently I watched fractal demo where dry ac30 sound was almost 3d and it was on phone speaker. I cannot afford both but I'm thinking of making the transition to FM9 just to check if it's worth the hype - I suspect it is. I'm a bit nervous about the UI as the Helix took me a bit to learn and it seems to be significantly easier to maintain. Well - if you don't try you'll never know. 🥳🤷♂️
@Radosław Pendziałek Jenkuya! I know very little Polish! Only words from when my Grandmother was pissed off at me!
1 other note: Fractal’s Effects are Second to None.
Dzięki wielkie!! It's fun to talk to a Polish guy in English on YT comments!
I am a Helix and Fractal user! Both are Exceptional! It’s a Very Personal Decision but if I had to choose 1 I would sway towards my Axe FX III. The Editor with it makes the learning curve more acceptable!
I have a pod go and absolutely love it but should I just use the effects loop with it or should I just go ahead and get a helix LT?
Your guys should try the boss, headrush, hotone, mooer and nux. Nowadays these new multieffects pedals are so good.Although these expansive multieffects pedals are worth the hype and money, but yours guys really need to give them a try if want to talk more about multieffects comparison.Or if your guys just want tone capture funtion multieffects pedal, then why not give a view for mooer ge300?
We realize that there are a lot more options on the market. But at some point it just becomes too time (and money) intensive to buy and make content on literally every product option. We mostly buy these units with our own money, and gear content is only part of what we do on the channel, so we try to find a balance between it all.We choose to make content and patches for the units that we think have the widest usage in the market, and the ones we have the most experience and expertise with. At the end of the day, you can get great tone from almost any modern digital solution. If it works for you and you love the way it sounds, the it’s the right choice.
Consider the need for Reverbs and Delays to spillover from patch to patch for live sound.
I use the stomp primarily as my amps. It's at the end of my pedalboard. However, I'm considering getting a full helix, but I struggle the notion of buying one only to have helix 2 or whatever they're developing come out later this year, or next. Also, first.
One of Line 6’s own employees has recently said in the forums, “don’t hold your breath for Helix 2”. They’re committed to continually improving the Helix. It’s better today than it was in 2015 and they’re getting ready to release yet another major update. He also said there likely won’t be a Helix 2, and that it’d be something completely different.
I’m in the same spot. Hx stomp for amps and reverbs only. Helix will remain awesome no matter what, but I just played my first Quad Cortex and they are only a few updates away IMO from getting all the major gripes people have now out of the way. Know Line 6 is working on something allegedly, just wish they would give better hints;)
That's my thing. I have a Pod Go, but have been thinking about upgrading to the HX Stomp XL or the LT. However, I have this feeling that L6 will come out with something next year that will make me regret it.
Great video guys , you always give great reviews and honest opinions , but you must have trust funds to afford all these units 😬I think I’ll save up for an FM 9 by shoveling peoples driveways this winter
Id really like to see you guys review the Headrush pedalboard, and especially see how it compares to these modelers
I buy Helix LT last week ago because this video , I up to show in high school party and i love it so much , It has everything I need to play guitar and it's worth the price.
Here's a question that I haven't seen addressed anywhere online. It's probably because these modeling units are used as all-in-ones much of the time. Let me set it up this way: I've seen many times, especially with the Kemper, that they are only used as an amp model and all the effects are in front run through pedals. With this in mind, if you're after the VOX / Matchless or Fender Deluxe sound, do the UA Ruby and Dream pedals do a better job of modeling those amps?I hope that question makes sense.
I use my Helix floor for Church for easy set up , versatility, but gigging anywhere else I love my VOX and my pedal board, really can't beat a real amp, IMHO
Hello, everyone,I've been following your channel for quite a while. From time to time I have to look at something twice because the English is sometimes too fast.It's one of the best videos I've seen on the subject. This is exactly the dilemma I stand in. I have to preface thatI am an absolute hobby and should practice more. But the technique is also fun ;)I currently have an FM3 and a Helix Floor to try. Both cannot and should not stay because it is too expensive.I had promised a lot from the FM3 and was looking forward to it.However, I actually feel the way you describe some things.The fractal literally "overwhelms" you with the amount of settings, I don't even know what many of them areis meant.The amount of amps and cabs is just heavy. Especially with the cabs, the designations regarding which microphone / whereremoved, phew. You don't know what to choose.At least I had hoped that when you select an amp, the right cab would be selected. Unfortunately not powerit all the harder. The editor is, at least in terms of operation, much better than doing this on the device. I find thatreally very very fiddly and many things are shown too small on the display. You feel like stepping around the three foot switches a lot, sometimes hold them down, sometimes hold them down ....So far, I have recognized the following advantages for myself personally with the Helix, especially the fact that I do not come from this deep subject.all-in-one device; Everything is there, including more footswitches that assign whether to select an effect or another presetsimplified. Bigger and heavier, of course.Personally, I find Snapshots better than Scenes to be able to switch parameters more easily.The operation on the device is simply so easy and clear. I still have the there a simple presetcreated, but just try it and the whole thing is super easy to understand. Display is super clear.The community is just huge, which is a huge advantage. In addition, the product family Helix, Nativ and Co.I can't really judge everything else, but I found the video just great.Whether I make the right decision FM3 or Helix ?!? Oh dear, but I think I'm going with the helix.maybe another trip to the FM9 in a while.I also found the quadcortex very interesting, but without desktop software (announced a long time ago) it's ios for me whether touch ornot an absolute exclusion criterion. I don't want to keep standing around on the floor in the Hovvy room or the foot pedalsoperate manually on the desk. Find the device just too "young"."Good advice is expensive ;("Greetings from Germany
just got a gt1000 core the sounds are amazing , its weird though how different it is then my pod go, got it for 500 bucks half the price as the helix lt so couldn't pass it up. boss is very menu driven but like you guys have said spend a little time with it and you can make changes fast. the greatest thing though is that you can plug this into the input of my orange amp and sounds great with modeling on, which the pod go can not do at all. do miss snap shots but the core does do it sort of but the power this thing has is amazing and doesn't give you option overloud. i think it has made me use the product better bc i have to dial the sound i want no depend on other people to make presets or wait till line6 does an update for new amps to be released.sorry for my long gabbing but, hope to see you guys give boss a chance to the world think you might like them
I'm saving up for a Zoom G3Xn edit: I have it now, its good for a first fx pedal, but I feel like the 7 fx blocks aren't enough (amps take 2 blocks)
I use the zoom and enjoy it. Try using different drive pedals in place of an amp. You may be able to gain a slot.
The longer format of this video made something more apparent to me that I guess usually happens with WT videos, and I mean this in the most constructive way I can: in these discussion-heavy videos, you guys tend to interrupt each other...a lot. To the point that it's difficult to fully understand some of the ideas you're trying to communicate. I LOVE the content, and I love hearing your guys' opinions on gear this way, but it makes it a little more challenging to get what you're trying to say.
I hated modelers. My first exposure to a modeler that actual responded to the volume knob and picking dynamics was actually Boss. Just a simple IR-200 on a pedalboard.Helix is horrible at dynamics and volume roll off to clean up the tone. Also, every guitar sounds the same through it. The uniqueness of the guitar gets lost. Finally landed on Fractal and haven’t looked back. Especially after the latest firmware. The feel, the responsiveness, the way each guitar sounds when plugged in. All very much like playing through a real tube amp!
Solid vid, great advice.
Question: Will i be happy with a Helix if the other guitar player in the band has a Fractal and i have to hear him night after night?
Skip it and get a Yamaha THR30ii, you can make a ton of tones and utilize a pedal to switch between your tones. It’s so much easier. We use my THR30ii and plug it into the house for our praise team.
Boss GT-1000 is also " all in one"
i will choose the quad cortex because it's the most advanced and it has the best looper
My Helix Floor is one of the best inventions ever.
I literally was just looking for a video exactly like this on your channel two nights ago!!! Then you made one!
I recently got a helix, but its too digital sounding for me i dont get the sound i want, either just too thin or too much bass, and I Just dont get it to sound as I want to
I really wish you guys would do some Headrush videos or at least some presets or tones 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I find it hard to buy an all in one which has been around for so long.
That reference to Jim and Dwight was exquisite
How come there are some comments from 2 months ago?I would love to buy a Quad Cortex. It captures pedals, amps and it also captured my heart. lol
So, no way to get the Toneking captures until you can sell them through the marketplace? They haven't even mentioned the marketplace in so long.
Is it the general consensus now that the QC amp modelling is at least equal to Fractal? I’ve been tempted by the FM9 but the QC is considerably cheaper in the UK.
@Worship Tutorials imho the free mic positioning of QC (that i own) Is a brute force point creating a sound. I was curious to hear a specific sample, but if you don't have samples on Road.. ok..nothing
I just mean in general. I prefer Fractal’s models to QC for any given amp type that I’ve tried.We don’t have any videos comparing them. To me the QC amp models compare pretty evenly to Helix amp models. Which is still great. But again, captures are a different story.
@Worship Tutorials no, i mean on stock model amps of fractal and qc. What model from fractal Is superior for you on qc?
clip-share.net/video/evYBrwSfTAU/video.html this is a video we did comparing QC to KPA to the amp we profiled and captured
@Worship Tutorials can you post an example ? what specific amp for example? i have to experiment. Can you then post a fractal sample? i'll try to respond with qc. On only model side obviously
On my way home from work where sweetwater delivered my Neural Quad Cortex a little earlier today. Time to get no sleep tonight!🙌
Came for the Nike x J Crew Killshot 2 appreciation. Your thumbnail game has been pretty sick as of lately. Lol jk, I happen to be in the market for a modeler, having sold my HX Stomp and a bunch of other pedals (I have my presets saved in Helix Native for reference tho). I was wondering if you guys plan to include NUX, Valeton, Mooer and the likes in your future videos? These guys are pretty serious contenders imho.
the best is whatever meets your needs
how many pedals can be used simultaneously in one preset in Pod Go?
4 open blocks, 4 set blocks
If I ever meet Bradford, the first thing I’ll say to him is, “Hi Brad”
Headrush for life :)
What happened to Sunday Vlogs? I miss them 😩 And yes, I realize this has nothing to do with the video lol (great stuff tho!!)
I miss them too!!
My head hurts. I have a WT Helix. I still don’t know how to use it.
Love it 😍
FYI not sure if this is just on my side for some reason but it's saying this video is unlisted right now. I got here from the link in the description in the Fractal video.
I went through them in order and have finally settled on the Quad Cortex.I loved my Kemper but I never got out of it what I wanted. Helix LT was so convenient and easy to use but never got there.With the FM3 I was really sad. It sounded great through headphones but in my 30 day trial I was not able to get the kind of sound that I wanted so I sent it back. And after some thought I gave the QC a shot.And well, for me at least it is case closed. I only had It for 2 days and within an hour I was at the point that I never reached with any of the other units.That being said:- Helix, imo, best interface and editor- Kemper, imo, most "flair" --> I SO wish I would have been able to get what I wanted out of it- Fractal, most powerful in terms of routingThe wall plug of the QC is atrocious. There is still no desktop editor. There are some serious functions missing like a hybrid mode with 4 scenes and 4 stomps. It boggles my mind that that is not yet a possibility on the QC.But in terms of sound for me it's definitely the one. And that is the one point where I don't want to make any compromises.
I can't find somewhere to request things however can you please I beg you do a cover of phil Wickham 'heaven and earth' song it's an oldie it's golden and I can't find a tutorial or even a cover anywhere! Please guys please!
Helix is pretty good
Jesus bless you,what about hotone ampero 2?
and it's cheap
@Worship Tutorials please try,it so good,like a HX stomp🥺
We’ve never tried one
Headrush all the way.... please try it.
Or just buy a Headrush.
Didn't you guys already do this or am I having deja vu? I know you broke up this video for more clicks but isn't just a re-upload? An original video would be nice.
@Bradford Mitchell idk who to reply since you're both saying the same thing so this will be for both. Ahh I see. Ok makes sense. I try to avoid email lists, just clusters up my drive. Either way it was answered. Not sure why it was unlisted but I guess the point is that not now. So I'm not crazy lol
It’s been uploaded for a while but unlisted. We’ve just made it public - same upload. But that’s probably why YT is showing it to you again.
@Billy Bob sure. But if we don’t publish it people won’t even know it exists.Also - you should see our support emails. Most of the questions are answered in our ReadMe’s 🤣
@Worship Tutorials yea but the whole video was uploaded before, right? I remember watching it before you broke it up, or I'm I crazy?
Where is the Headrush?
Mine is in the corner of my music room after suffering the ROD. Loved it and babied it for 3 years, then it up and died.
Whoa...Bradford talked first...
Wish you guys would stop regurgitating the same expensive multi effect pedals, and explore other brands like headrush or hotone ampero. There are better alternatives than spending 1-3k.
@Kal-El the point of this video is ‘best’, not ‘budget’. I don’t know what “better alternatives“ means outside prioritizing cost.
@Rafaels Sancess Used a line 6 pod go, sold it in less than a year. Tried stomp, it's fine. Switched to headrush and finding better success with it. There are better alternatives than just helix, just because it isn't the most "popular" multi effects pedal out there, doesn't mean it isn't good.
Don’t know what you mean by ‘regurgitating’.There very well may be but we make content for things we actually use. We do not think you have to spend 1-3k to play guitar.
Line 6 Pod Go, HX Stomp i’d use one of these over any chinese stuff. Not sure about headrush, it seems like nobody use them a least here on youtube.
Are you being paid by Neural? Being bound to the app and their cloud is as much a negative as a positive. The existing directly system is horrible. 2.0 might fix it. No Hybrid mode. Missing so many features the others have and it's taking a very long time to bring the unit to the same level as the others were a year and more ago.
No we are not being paid by anybody
Bradford was not first