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The biggest factor for the Model T in 1923 was the cost. Brand new a T could be bought for $280, roughly $4,500 for today. Making it cheaper than the 1920s tractor options. It mobilized all but the poorest communities in the states and lead to our complete and total production dominance that led the population and wealth explosions of the 30s-40s-50s.
@Mladen Milić I think creating small and very cheap cars now will be hard, due to crash safety regulations etc.
So you cant skip out on airbags, you cant skip out on assistant systems.. And then you either have to make your own stuff like Tesla does with Autopilot - or you have to pay to Intel, Nvidia etc, buy the hardware, buy the lisences etc. then adding this to a car also means you need very good engineers.
So it is much harder to create a cheap car now.
However, it is possible to make and buy cheap 4 wheel motorcycles with a roof.
Those will most likely be better than the Model T and you can then drive it on your drivers lisence, they wont be safe to drive - but neither is the Model T.
I have a model t but it's black and doesn't run yet
@Paul Stubbs there are crash tests you can look up online. It is bad, admittedly, but way better than most other similar cars, Chinese or otherwise, and the biggest thing is that its low cost means you should compare it with motorbikes which are way worse in a crash.
@Fedyx 1 And it's safety features match the model T
The model T was a complete breakthrough. Ford got the gearboxes delivered in specifically designed wooden boxes which, when disassembled, became the cars floor boards. Brilliant!
@Snoww ?
@James Pink 1023 was a little more than 100 years ago
@Flaminporky Henry Ford was making 2 million model Ts a year in 1023 (a hundred years ago) that's more than they made in 2022 including heavy trucks...
They should bring back an updated version of the t
The Model T finished the 1/4 mile one hundred years ago, giving it a time credit that only a DeLorean could catch. I still love your work
@3nd3rman04 The Blue-Fire Enderman Based. Walkable cities are the way to go. No more traffic then.
@3nd3rman04 The Blue-Fire Enderman so basically a human
By this logic, a horse... no, walking is the best vehicle!
LOL!!
By this measuring a Pontiac Aztek would be faster than an sf90 😂
I love that while Matt has a fondness for a lot of Tesla's advancements and technology, he's not afraid to take the piss out of them when appropriate.
@MrBwSBwS Brother don't tell me, a dude who HAS a tesla, that I'm wrong about a Tesla screen. Every other car we've had that had a screen were faster (in terms of screen response time). The only thing in terms of the screen that Tesla has on other car manufacturers is that it's bigger. Even then buttons are simply more reliable, and they don't force you to wait for the screen to load different menus in order to switch from AC controls to seat adjustment. You can confidently say all you want but as someone who actually has the car yeah the screen's slow, though I will admit this is a 5 year old car at this point. Still, gives tesla no excuse when our nearly TEN year old leaf has a better responding screen.
@JPC Designs That's an embarrassing amount of misinformation. Unless you're comparing a Hummer EV to a Prius the EV is always going to be more efficient so long as both are street legal. As this is a discussion about Tesla it's a certainty. Base Model 3 has an eMPG of 132. I can confidently say the screen is more responsive than any other vehicle on the road. There is no one else with better onboard computer hardware/software or even close. All Teslas are some level of fast. The Model 3 Performance is 0-60 in 3.1 seconds. If that isn't fast to you, your criteria is bonkers.
@Jinppa Ok, now we got to the point. The short answer is yes, experts agree that we have enough rare earth metals to power our change to sustainable energy. (Just look it up). The issue isn't whether we have enough, its if we can refine enough in a sustainable way. Thats why Tesla have started construction on their own refinery. Plus, you have to remember that batteries don't all have the same composition, with some including and excluding other rare earth metals. Teslas 4680's don't include cobalt as an example.
the differential mechanism is a stroke of engineering genius. the fact that it basically hasn't changed at all is so insane
The wheel is an engineering genius. There was no need to reinvent it so it stayed the same.
@ody vinty* Makes it all the more impressive that the AC electric motor still uses same basics
@S_K electric machinery evolves all the time
Same for the basics for the electric motor actually
My grandparents were farmers in South Dakota, and had a Model A rusting away behind their farmhouse in Ridgeview. My grandfather had it rebuilt in the 80's, and I'll never forget riding in the back during the Mobridge, SD 4th of July parade. We'd drive it from my grandparents house, down the parade route throwing candy from the back seat, and then head to The Wheel dinner for lunch. That car is now in San Bernadino now, with my Aunt and Uncle.
This video brought back many good memories, even though this one is a Model T.
The Model A was actually a decent car.
The Model T transmission is essentially a manually operated automatic transmission.
That's what I thought.
In what way? I don't see the comparison to be honest
Tf
@Hondaguy91 Automatic shifted manual transmission is what commercial truck automatic transmissions are. The manual transmissions in commercial trucks are so reliable, they don't want or need to give them up entirely
@Mr Spandel Ive been semi truck driving for a while. When I was new, the instructor told us in a ten speed transmission, you're basically the torque converter
I am a retired R&D engineer not doing well. Your videos bring joy to my life.
@drew wollin you said you see not well,hope you're better :)
@drew wollin Those are amazing achievements, I have a test in control systems soon. It's quite hard! Thanks for elaborating
@S_K Agricultural engineering. Nothing special. Came up with a new way of storing fruit early in my career. Now being adopted globally and a new chapter in texts for postharvest horticulture. A bit of engineering control theory goes a long way in horticulture. Other notables were a harvester and processing system for coffee in Australia, and early work, 1990, on using long-range weather forecasting for planting and harvesting grain crops. Morphed into a huge climate research facility over the decades.
Stay strong buddy, life is not easy sometimes.
I like that Ford was so in tune with safety issues that when they designed the Model A they consolidated the fire with the firewall by making the front cowl the fuel tank.
I believe that the Model A was also the first car to use bonded Safety glass, so there is that.
They actually went to integrated cowl tanks in the last two years of the model T (1926 and 1927).
That Model T window mechanism is amazing!
It's always a good day when SuperfastMatt drops a video 🙂
Safety comparison is my favorite part.
I’ve watched this video 3 times in a row.
I also own 3 Model T’s and they are so much fun to drive
Thank you for this video
Jarod’s series on this build is awesome, watched every episode as they came out 🤠🇺🇸👍
*DEEPLY APPRECIATED* the "self driving is only a year away" joke
AI was the plan, AGI is the solution. Iydkydk.
Lol I’m the 999th like
@AquaSeafoamCrayon When did he say that quote? Was it before or after the two years of "2 weeks to flatten the curve"? from your tyrannical government?
I really enjoyed this video. Sold my Toyota years ago in lieu of a 1923 model T Ford runabout as a daily driver, putting around 100 miles a week on it. Two points: your friends model T is not maintained well if it can only muster 35 mph and the poor acceleration is also a function of it not adjusted correctly. From the factory they could top out at 45 mph though few ever had the opportunity to prove that on unpaved roads. I regularly drive mine in the 40-45 mph range and have had it up to 55, though must to see where the top end would be. Also you didn’t bring up parts a availability or potential for consumer to maintain or fix the two cars. Parts for the model T are plentiful, both in new, new old stock and good used parts. The owners manual for a model T is designed for the owner to do their own adjustments and many T owners did their own major repairs.
lmao forget about trying to repair a Tesla any more than you can repair Apple products
As a daily? jesus some people are just built different.
Brilliant comparison, Matt!! I often wondered what would have happened if GM continued to develop the EV1 long enough to incorporate the LiON battery??
GM's trouble has little to do with electric cars. They are in the same state as they were in when Japan ate their lunch. Too fat at the top. R&D is too fossilized as in not light on their feet. GM's problems are not because of EVs. They are too deep in for EVs to save them.
That was even more entertaining and educational than I'd expected. I wound up here largely for the projects, but that was super rad; well done! (And holy crap that Model T window mechanism... I haven't experienced that feeling about gears since visiting the watch collection at the Science Museum in London...)
@Pop Laurentiu its even better when the vehicle isn't completely jacked up like this sad excuse for a model T they used...
He He.. even today i would still choose that model-T over the Tesla because it is better overall.. it can go even thru fields where the Tesla would obviously get easy stuck and not even mention the fact that when are sold for the model-T price at any auction one could get at least 2 Tesla.. Ohh and BTW i'm European..
Awesome video.
I have a Model T - no restoration, but one I built completely from junkyard piles across my state in Australia - and every one of your sentiments ring so very true. Love it.
you built one from literal junk. that's hella recycling
That was actually pretty interesting. Never would’ve thought of the two in the same comparison.
I would definitely be interested in another video in 100 years comparing the 2 again 😁
@TIMEtoRIDE900 Given the state of the plastics in some of my collection of 20 and 30 year old cars I wouldn't even give them that long. (now off to find a replacement interior light for a 1990 Ford Escort as the one in it disintegrated while I was trying to replace a blown bulb 🙄 )
@William Hilbert That wouldn't shock me. How many Teslas will be on the road after 20 years let alone 100 plus.
@Lord Bungle they say there are still a million T's on the road
@Turbocharged Dude I don't see EVs EVER dropping to $3K on the used market, just because of the lithium battery price. If the newly (being researched) SODIUM batteries are ever practically developed, THAT's what will make EVs a true breakthrough!
I own a Tesla Model 3 and a 1926 Studebaker Country Club Coupe. The Studebaker has a straight 6. I wanted to make a video comparing the 2, but Matt does such a great job
This is the first video I watched from you somewhere around a week ago. And sadly I must say that I have worked my way through the majority of your videos already…and all because you are fu*#ing hilarious. Seriously, you’re humor on here is refreshing; please continue with the never ending sarcasm and dead pan humor. And never forget that your best friend is Mr. Schadenfreude(yes I had to look up how to spell that more than once).
I had a very rough day, working on redecking my utility trailer and then working on my tractor, all required a lot of bending and my fused back doesn't do that anymore. So once I was done and washed up, I sat down to my computer and watched this extremely fun and funny video and actually laughed my pain away!!! So thank you very much for that, Matt!! I alllllways look forward to your videos. You never fail to amuse me.... Signed: Stoved up in Floriduh.....
I had a 36 model A and I always thought the 24” wheels were neat compared to the 14 and 15” wheels of the time… nowadays, 24” wheels aren’t far from standard anymore.
Also, liked the push button starting of the early Ford… something that started reappearing in modern cars.
Yes, larger tire walls back then except for the ford exception. That Novel-T was all sorts of cracked up. Every vehicle at the time had something going for them, the model T was just overproduced. That was its charm...or the black paint during 1913-1924.
"if someone pulls out in front of you, you are going to die" got me so good
😂
@Mike Albrecht They had laminated safety glass - it fogs yellow. Mandatory by 1910 or so.
Seat belts children!🦌
Even top speed of 35 won't help when you are jettisoned through the plate glass.
Matt, your engineering mindset and dry humor are a delight and precious commodity
Great stuff - humorous yet professional. Thank you Matt!
Outstanding production: Lighting, audio, scripting, pacing, and, above all, the creative concept are all off the charts. WELL DONE, Sir!
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Thanks Matt, this is your best fun and interesting in one package video yet.
😂
I recently found your channel with the Viper Build video and am glad I did.
I found myself laughing out loud multiple times during this video. My engineering brain is thoroughly entertained!
The price point of both vehicles would have been interesting, I believe the model T was the only vehicle that got cheaper as it went along.
@Glam Stachee's 1980s nostalgia lounge There were cheaper cars from Sears and Briggs & Stratton, $99.00 for a street-legal "buck board"
@Zorktx Andnand Still it helps compare and contrast the two.
Teslas will also get cheaper as more factories, better batteries, and more streamlined manufacturing gets implemented. That's how it is for almost all cars.
Oh man, thank you for this comparison! I was a little hesitant on which car to decide, but I think I’m ultimately going to go with the Model Y.
Thank you!
Still procrastinating finishing the Jag eh? 😉
Great video Matt. Fair and balanced as always. Loved that you took one away from Ford 😂
My grandfather has a 1926 t and it's a blast to drive I really enjoy these comparison videos of old and new cars thanks for this!
I have seen other videos explaining the controls of the Model T, and I love how you made it sound as complicated as possible, to point out how absurd it seems compared to modern cars.
Love you're videos Matt.
Your content is some of my favorite on Clip-Share, your style is something entirely of its own.
This is such an amazing video! It was also a lot of fun to race my Model T against the Model Y. Good stuff!
@based max there’s a very good chance that a mobility scooter would beat the Model T.
I bet if there were to be a third racer, it would be a mobility scooter.
It might win.
the more things change the more they stay the same. The dive into simplicity was amazing. Did not realize that the engine operates more like a power glide where your feet are the valve body.
@Michael Benardo dang, look at that typo. thanks! i brain farted.
Transmission, not engine.
Absolutely brilliant video, and I appreciate the detailed info on some of the Model T features. Sketchiest car for safety? Probably, with the exception of some of the "converted horse carriage" forerunners. I would be uncomfortable driving the Model T, mostly for the lack of brakes and the key pointed at my kneecap, and this is coming from a guy who has gone 120mph plus in a rusted out 1960's Plymouth and done 51mph on a pedal bike 🤣.
Matt been watching your videos for a while. Is great content so keep them coming. I have to say I love your humor it always makes me laugh literally out loud.
Very entertaining! I had hoped you and Jared would get together for another video. Thanks for sharing.
Hilarious and informative as always - all hail the algorithm!
Fascinating engineering insight into the Model T. So many advances in 100 years but amazing how some old ideas are better for the driver.
yeah, and the steering wheel simply tilting up for driver getting in and out... that is much easier and the system will last longer.
@Ken Rickman But isn't the fact that the T doesn't actually have climate control or a radio something to be considered here?
@DrewLSsix The model T is literally 100 years old lol. The Tesla wont last 10 years....................
Obviously the model T is inadequate for todays safety, but I think we can all agree that cars basically PEAKED in the 90s. The 90s Honda Civic was pretty much all you need comfort wise in a car, while still being simple enough to work on, and with parts that were cheap enough to replace.
This video TO ME shows that the Tesla is a LOT of complexity and cost for not THAT MUCH gains. Give my a 90s Civic or Corolla any day over that POS Tesla.
@uli wehner agreed, who wants to be distracted from their mobile phone while driving these days!
@Kinetic Research so "engaging" that most people wouldn't be able to drive one if they had to. I am all about analog cars and such, but i have no expectation that the vast majority of new car buyers would have any interest in a manual car for example. i am also confident that no-one finds driving 20-20 miles in Atlanta rush-hour traffic "engaging" regardless of the vehicle used.
"...you barely have to slow down for a cliff..." OMG that was PERFECT! I do appreciate your comparison!
A fascinating comparison of these two vehicles. It is interesting to see how manual the operation of the Model T was. I've often compared Elon Musk to Henry Ford mainly for their innovative contributions and how many of Ford's original ideas have become relevant again. (Think Vertical Integration)
One thing, though...
You took a dig at Tesla's quality. That's something that is trending in the right direction all the time, while Ford has some of the largest and most expensive recalls in history .
Overall, I learned a lot about the Model T, and this was a fun comparison to watch
Wow, that was an interesting and entertaining installment. Thank you!
I like how casually he said “If somebody pulls out in front of you, you are going to die.”
Fantastic video! Really appreciate the effort you put in.
Am i imagining it or is the frequency of the videos increasing
Three videos in less than 2 weeks, glorious times indeed.
I have recently become enamored about Model T's, I really want to get one that has been sitting, fix it up and learn how to drive it. I think it would be fun for a little while, but not something that I want for a long time. Cool video here showing how a lot of it operates.
This is just about the smartest thing I've seen in a very long while.
Thank you for sharing this. Great info, fantastic presentation, and outstanding production quality. Very well done.
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That changing the T to a Y is probably one of the top five clever things you've ever done.
Maybe I'm just weird but it would be really interesting to see a video like this comparing a modern EV to a period EV like a baker electric or something...I know those are a bit older than the Model T in this video but it's the only period EV I've heard of, I'm sure there's a newer period EV that would actually be 100 years apart.
Excellent video. Extremely interesting comparison, and good sense of humor.
That was great fun. BTW, that steering wheel is a period-correct aftermarket product often referred to as a "Fat Man" wheel. I have one of a slightly different design on my '22 T Speedster. The original wheel was bolted on in the usual manner.
@Joe Way to think it was nearly as old back then as my car is now, regardless that's awesome!
@Justin Noker Heh...you're right. My speedster is a 1922, built by my dad in the early '60s (1960s😁) as the car he wanted when he was 16.
1922 original or a 2022 replica? gotta love how 100 years makes dates a problem.
Thanks for that info, I was wondering. Have seen a few model T videos and thought the wheel looked different than what I remembered seeing in other cars.
Lol I love how your comparing the model y to this. It feels great to see how we have changed so much and how simple it is to operate my car each morning. Idc what people think of the model y, but as long as I enjoy it. I enjoy it! Although the aspects said about the model y do be true and I have to agree with it. It shakes like crazy off road 💀 Yet my fams minivan does waaay better. Keep in mind the model y uses recycled plastic, which you missed that detail. Model y uses some recycled parts for the car.
Incredible comparison that rivals the comparison reviews seen on topgear back in the day. Bravo.
What a wonderful premise for a video and your writing was crisp refreshing and easy listening.
Very entertaining delivery of the information. Great job!
on the safety bit, don't forget that if you do crash, the steering wheel is a giant rod that thrusts into you instead of dropping away. it's literally a spear facing towards your chest you use to turn the car.
In love with your videos since the Porsche one
Hi sir big fan
Thanks for the video. The safety part was hilarious! :D
Bravo! Best episode yet, and that's saying something.
the comparison we never knew we needed, but a one we are glad to have received nevertheless... thank you knowledge daddy!
Great video thanks! I learned a lot !! I want a model y so bad, hopefully another price drop soon:) I have a single motor cybertruck reservation which I’ll probably never see or b able to afford, I’m definitely gonna save for a model y! Thanks again awesome video!!
I was actually thinking about Ts and Ys recenly because I realized my time in Tesla's and Ford Ts was about the same, as a passenger and behind the wheel. They're both a really different experience than a traditional late 20th, early 21st century automobile, take a little getting used to but both ultimately become pretty easy to settle into and allow for a useful degree of practicality. The Tesla is fast but you have to accept the limitations of range/charge time, the Ford is SUHLOW but if there's gas to be found you can drive as long as your piles allow. The big difference for me is I want a T Ford SO EFFING BAD but don't even walk across parkinglots to look at Tesla's anymore
As frustrating as it sometimes is when you go weeks without uploading, it’s nice getting sort of a surprise bonus Saturday morning episode. I really liked this one too. Videos like this or the Porsche one make a great complement to your typical build videos.
All hail the algorithm!
Magical introduction, great storytelling
I guess if you're driving your Model T and somebody pulls out on you, the steering does more for you than anything related to speed. But then also, there were no rules back then against modding your car, so mounting a tank turret on top was probably an option.
You've explained why my father, born in 1910, would say he was married and had kids before he ever drove anything that had brakes. Thank Matt.
Fascinating! Extremely informative. Funny, when I saw the title of this video, I was thinking of the time I saw a Model T next to a Lunar Rover. Never knew the Model T was so complex to drive. (will never complain about manual driving again.) Plus, why does the Tesla NOT come with a spare? I used to work for a auto glass company & replacements for Model T glass was surprisingly available, however, now (or then), the replacement glass was tempered glass. (Legal / regulation? Safer - Yep) Your friends Model T looks amazing.
@Abby Normal Spares are still common in Indonesian-made cars
@D R Wow, no more spares?! Did not know that. Though I haven't owned a car in a decade or two either. oh well.
Many cars don't come with a spare tyre anymore. I used to think it was just Porsche, since you can call them anytime, but even the Prius hasn't it...
The model T is just a cool car! I love how the transmission works. It's a manual automatic!
You're one of the few for whom i've turned adblock off. Love what you're doing.
@Mark M lmao
@hawk 7886 except you wont do that for every channel you watch and not everyone sells merch :P
@Mark M you do realize google will hoover up ALL of the data you give it and sell it to ANY bidder, right? I don't give a shit about google, and my account has nothing personal in it. I'll gladly sign in to Vanced if it gives me access to SponsorBlock
@Dennis lmao who white knights for a content creator? I get more than enough ad thumbnails in my feed. I won't use youtube at all without Vanced and Sponsorblock. If I like you enough as a creator, I'll spread the word and think about buying merch.
@AquaSeafoamCrayon so its stupid if i manage money well? I dont see where this would be stupid but okay. So far youve only provided insults rather than arguments so you can keep your 2ct to yourself, thanks.
I too found some interesting things that are similar. So strange that they both have 4 wheels and doors. I truly am awestruck.
My Grandfather bought a used Model T for $35.00 He told me how to drive and that it took a while to get it up to 35 MPH. It came with a good tool Kit.. always adjusting the bands messing with alcohol in the winter.
His second car was a Model A and she said it was a Huge Improvement.
His Brother had a Stutz Bearcat that he claimed would to 90MPH .. Also it had an exhaust cut out for when you got out of Town and you could hear it coming from a Mile Away .
I was thinking, too, that both have spawned many imitators, some noteworthy in their own right (though it's still a bit soon to tell with Tesla if their competitors will hold on). Ford's included Citroen, in appearance with the A, and in spirit with the Traction Avant. The Tractions have proven to be as reliable as the Model T, though they resemble modern cars more than the T. They, too, were produced through a very long production run from 1934 until 1957. England had the Trojan, which decided that the Model T still had too many bells and whistles, and was one of the last cars to use solid tires (tyres). It was very inexpensive, but cyclecars were cheaper, so it died shortly after launch. What did succeed was the Austin Seven.
Tesla seems to have inspired a lot of imitators, and many from the company have created their own cars, like Lucid. Even some companies who were in indirect competition with Tesla at the start of Model S sedan production (Fisker) have been reinvigorated by their success.
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Love how the Model T has a hood scoop. Plus points right there,
This was such a great entertaining video! Thanks for making this video.
Excellent episode Matt - algorithm hailed👍
I helped rebuild a few model T"s in the late 80"s. When I was in high school. Such a simple design and easy to work on.
That was great.. think the model should win the safety.. guarantee you’re way more attentive driving that thing👍.. and probably smiling a lot more too
This was very nice to watch. very interesting and educative.
I am endlessly curious when the pedal controls changed from ... whatever the Model T was doing to the 3 pedals we know today.
I would be curious to see how many sketchy build quality model Ts were delivered, the expectations were so much lower considering it was literally the first mass produced car.
Came for the sarcasm, stayed for the history. (and the sarcasm)
Awesome video!
Love your humour too.
Wish someone could remake the ford as it looks so cooool!
This is very well done and interesting. Thank you. -Plaid S owner
Thoroughly enjoyed this, Matt!
Great vid. Fascinating in parts, too! All hail the algorithm!
Great vid! I am planning to buy a car. So, would you say it's 50/50 between these two?
That first comparison for the driving had me in stitches.
This was a great video. Keep in mind, there were probably more people running around in electric cars back in 23 than in gas cars. So henry destroyed the electric car market as well. LOL!
@jsquared1013 Do you like taking the joy away from people on purpose.. or do you like stumbling on it accidentally.
There were very few electric cars by that point. Fifteen years earlier than that, maybe.
That got far more interesting than i thought it would
the world record in the quarter mile, for a human, is only 5 seconds off a model T's pace. incredible
Excellent episode.
All Hail the Algorithm 🙌
I appreciate the FSD shot at the end - and the honest assessment of Tesla quality and concept issues
Yep, choosing quantity over quality is a risky step, but Tesla wouldn't likely be here if it weren't for that. Oh yeah, that's another thing in common. In the US, there have only been 2 automakers that haven't gone bankrupt, that's Ford and Tesla. Though, it will be interesting how Ford comes out of this EV transition. Right now, my best guess would be that they will be much smaller, but at least alive, something that cant be said for GM.
Another fun and informative video..will success spoil SuperFastMatt?
Somehow I doubt it.
All hail the algorithm!
I guess we'll have to wait till he becomes successful to find out!
well done Sir very enjoyable watch!
as a tesla lover, i was impressed by the build quality of the Model T it lasted 100 years wow! Teslas wouldn't even survive 50 years! amazing videos matt :)
Damn that footage of the model t devouring the offloading goes hard
100 years of age and the Ford Model T is still kicking in