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Is a jump stop a traveling violation or not? What about the step back? Let's break it down and see.
- Published on May 6, 2021 veröffentlicht
- This is Rule Review covering plays involving traveling, specifically talking about the jump stop and step back move. This video is dedicated to educating basketball officials on recognizing how to identify the jump stop and step back properly. Watching actual videos of plays involving traveling, along with some basic instruction explaining each rule, helps officials learn faster and retain rule information better. We can all learn together by continually discussing the rules as they are written in the NFHS rules book and viewing actual high school basketball games reinforces that learning.
Because traveling can be a complicated concept it is often misunderstood, especially when it comes to the jump stop and step back. Instead of guessing on traveling plays and grouping all similar looking plays into the same category, it is important we, as officials, understand all the components that go into what makes a jump stop move legal or not. Was the player moving or dribbling? At what point did they stop and hold the ball? This is what we will be reviewing in this segment of Rule Review. All video clips we reference in this segment on traveling come from high school games and focus solely on the NFHS high school rules book.
- A drive to the basket made by a dribbling player who jumps high into the air with the ball and comes back to the floor before shooting. This play was allowed to continue by the officials. Watch to find out why.
- Another move down the lane with a jump stop performed by the player. This play looks the same as the first, but it is NOT. Should this have been a traveling violation?
- A jump stop play was called a traveling violation but when did the player catch and hold the ball? This is important to know to determine pivot status.
- A step back move was correctly made by this player but how do we know? When you break down a step back move, it is simply a jump stop, backwards.
- Another step back but this one was called a traveling violation. Were they different or was the officials incorrect? Watch to find out.
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Comments • 184
Thank you so much!! Everyone is doing the James Harden step back, not knowing that the NBA has adjusted the rules (as a business) to conform to this trend. I herd that college is about to legalize the harden step back too. Originally the backwards hop step jump shot..was done at mid range. It's hard to execute that from 3 point range. So the lazy way has now been found.
We’ll see. It won’t change in high school anytime soon, I don’t think.
In the third clip with the "airborne ball catch", when the player first touched the ball on the pass (@5:17) he appeared to take two steps from the top of the key to the foul line before dribbling to move into the jump stop, which appears to have been the travel.
Traveling isn’t gauged on when you first touch the ball. You must be “holding” the ball before violating the traveling rule.
Extremely helpful. The NFHS Clip-Share video and printed guideline did not mention the AIRBORNE CATCH which has been creating a huge amount of confusion in my locality! It only made sense that jabs and pivots after an airborne catch are LEGAL since no pivot foot has been established!
Glad you found it helpful
Please do one where a player does a pound dribble into ONE hand and gathers the ball with TWO hands while both feet are in the air and lands with a staggered 1-2 landing. This is a move that is increasingly common because it should allow the player to still pivot and even step through. I also hate getting called for a travel on this because it's not the same as a traditional jump stop.
@GREENMIRROR555 No, a 1 hand pound into a jump where the second hand comes to the ball (or hand comes under the ball) while the player is airborne on the jump stop -- meaning the gather occurs during the airborne portion (no pivot has been established because the ball hasn't been gathered).
In this case the pivot is established when the first foot touches the floor. This allows you to take one additional step to shoot or pass, OR you can then pivot off the landing into a fade away or something else.
did they catch it with one hand and then rest the other on it?
If we acquire any of these types of moves we'll try and add it to a segment. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for posting this. This play gets a lot of discussion on internet forums. The third play is where it gets tricky. Having to judge where the feet are in real time when the dribble ends is the cause of much of the controversy about this play. The difference between your second and third example illustrates this. In play two, the dribble ends with the jump foot on the floor, while play three has both feet in the air as you showed. In real time, it's not fair to have officials forced to parse judgement like this. Because of this, I call this play a violation. If a coach complains, "Coach, in my judgement, the dribble ended with the foot on the floor." Calling this play differently each time causes inconsistency, which I find coaches despise the most. The other factors with this play is that it is legal in the NBA, where players see it on TV, and FIBA. Whereas it's illegal in NCAA and NFHS. In NCAA games, it's especially inconsistently called. At the NFHS level at least, I wish that the blanket interpretation from that organization would be to consider it a travel in all cases. The players would adjust and the play would be called consistently.
It is not difficult at all to differentiate. I was born in 1984. I'm 38 years old now going on 39 this summer. I've been playing basketball since the early 90s. I played CYO ball my entire youth since 1993. Went to summer camps every summer at St. Mary's. Played high school ball. Then in 2002 I started referreeing and coaching when I was 18. The rules were ENGRAINED into me at a very young age and instilled throughout a lifetime of hooping in legitimate organizations. You play so many games, have so many practices, watch so many games, it becomes second nature. You don't even have to think about it. I can quickly identify when someone ends their dribble and begins to gather or collect the ball. I can quickly identify which foot is the pivot foot without even thinking about it. You see so many plays that they all look a certain way the way a player moves. And you know how a player moves because you've played so many games. So when something looks funny it's because it is funny. The game doesn't change. There's nothing new under the sun. That quick switch of the feet and extra side step or step back looks funny, it feels funny, because it IS funny. It's a travel. There is no reason to change the rules. Players just have to be held to the standard of the rules by their coaches, by the refs, by leagues and organizations, and they'll play the right way. You let them get away with funny stuff and they'll always want to get away with more. You call them on it consistently and they'll learn to play right or they won't play. Coach will take them out if they don't have the ability to execute the fundamentals properly. The NBA is ruining the game. We need to continue to stay true to the game and play the right way and stop trying to change everything. That's weak.
Or we can expand the gather step rule and reward kids who actually work on their skill and footwork. Last night we saw SGA here in OKC hit a buzzer beater step back three to win that the NFHS seems by rule a travel but if you simply land both feet simultaneously it doesn’t, dumb. Let’s evolve.
Yes, this play can be different by inches sometimes and very hard to determine during live play.
The last video of the back step was super informative. I think I see that play more than I think. Not sure I am getting that travel call right.
That's what i would say !
if the player catch or hold the ball after the step, that is not a travel...
Traveling is hard and the kids being so fast makes is harder.
Thank you for this great video and explanation.
On the last play, it was because of the small hop that made it a jump stop rule, right? If instead of the hop, he took a step back, and then another, it would fall under the 2 steps after dribble, right? Looked really close between a hop versus a step to me.
Everytime you stop your dribble you have to come to a complete stop. You can't stop dribbling and then take steps. So when a ball handler, such as the one in the third video, comes to a stop, he has to either completely stop or he can take one jump and stop. Of course he's going to try to create some separation between himself and the defender so he chooses to jump stop. The jump stop rule requires that the foot on the floor when he stops his dribble is his pivot foot, and he can take one jump from that pivot and land in a complete stop with both feet simultaneously and then neither of those two feet can move following the stop. So if you go back to the video you can see that he ends his dribble with his left foot down and jumps forward to his right foot and then takes a second jump backwards from his right foot and lands on the left foot and then the right follows landing after the left foot. He traveled twice on this play. His first travel was when he jumped from his left foot to his right foot and didn't land with two feet. And then he traveled again when he took a second jump from his right foot backwards to the left foot and didn't land with two feet. You get one jump, not two. And you must land with two feet simultaneously.
Glad it helped! These plays are hard to discern and many of the differences between legal and illegal can be very close. Thanks for wathing.
Not mentioned in the video, but catching the ball airbourne can be applied to the step back as well. If you catch it mid air after taking that step back, you can land un-simultaneously. Or if you caught it airbourne after the step back and landed simultaneously, you could still establish a pivot foot afterwards. For lower levels of ball, just be prepared to get called for travels since some of these refs be old schooled still and not know the difference.
Heeeeeeellllllla wrong. The jump stop rules apply to all jump stops. You can't pivot after a jump stop. A step back IS a jump stop. You also have to land on two feet from a jump stop. So when you are taking someone off the dribble and you start your gather, which ever foot is on the ground as you start your jump is your pivot foot. You must land with two feet and then you have to shoot or pass. You can't pivot after the gather and jump stop. You can't slide any feet. A jump stop has to be a firm two foot landing and complete stop. That's why it's called a jump STOP. It's not the refs that don't know the rules. It's you. You don't know the rules. Most NBA step backs are illegal traveling violations. And it all started with James Harden yeeeeears ago. The NBA doesn't call it, but the NBa is rigged. So now all kinds of NBA players do it to get an unfair advantage. And because so many people see it in NBA games they assume it's legal and do it when they play. So now hella people are traveling everyday and go crazy when someone that actually knows the game of basketball calls them on it.
Yes. The same "jump stop" principles apply. Thanks for watching.
Watching the Japan B league nowadays and I see so many plays with looks like traveling so I searched for videos about the rule. After watching your video, I still think what I saw were traveling. I wonder why the refs not calling them.
@Officials Institute thanks for the clarification. Yet, seeing it there is so weird to see. 😅
Just remember, all the rules we review are based entirely on the NFHS rules book. Japan B league may have their own rule on traveling that makes it legal.
In the second example, you are allowed to jump stop and take a shot because with a successful jump stop, either foot can be a pivot foot. In the third example, the travel occurs before the highlighted part. You can see the player take three steps before going into the jump stop.
A jump stop may start with one foot in the ground, and if that’s the case, when the player comes down with both feet simultaneously, they cannot pivot.
3rd example looks like the traveling happens before the dribble? Thanks for this useful video!
Possible, but really hard to tell in real time. It would be a tough sell since the player seemed to begin a dribble immediately after catching the ball. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for the great explanation. One important question I'm now confused about though: by the same logic as the last example in the video, is it therefore illegal for a player to take 2 steps to the basket for a layup? In that situation, after picking up his dribble isn't the player also returning his pivot foot to the ground (the 2nd step) before releasing it for the shot? Are you only actually allowed 1 step to the basket therefore? Thanks in advance.
in a layup the first step is the pivot foot. the 2nd step propels the player into the air and he has to shoot or pass before landing with either one foot or both feet.
@Officials Institute Thanks very much for the response. Yes and no. I feel like in many of these examples it is often difficult to determine when exactly the player catches the ball (such as the 3rd play in this video). In some respects determining when a player catches the ball and which foot is on the ground at that time seems easier to me to see on a lay up than on some other plays. Perhaps you could make another great video with examples of layups that are clear traveling violations and others that should not be called because the pivot cannot be absolutely identifiable? Thanks so much again!!
The same logic applies to all traveling situations, including layups. During a layups, however, it is very hard to know exactly when the ball is “held/caught” by the dribbler. If you cannot determine a specific foot on the ground at the time of the dribbler catching the ball, you should not penalize with a travel. So even though many times a layup is, by rule, a travel, it is almost always passed on because the pivot cannot be absolutely identifiable. Make sense?
Would be great to have some reference on the rule in the book while telling why it's travel or not. Because for now only from your words I can say that one step back is illegal and the other is not. Because it looks like step back was pretty legal with "gather, 1,2, shoot".
There is no gather step in high school. If you gather with one foot on the floor, you do not get two more steps.
As stated in the introduction, when determining legality of the jump stop or step back moves, we reference rule 4.44.2 in the NFHS rules book. Thanks for watching.
The last play, great explanation on why it was a travel. The player does not land on 2 feet simultaneously.
Is it same rule applied on euro step? Cuz to me its basically euro step goin backwards.
Glad you liked it.
What about this one? At :48, a player gets passed the ball. If you pause, and use period and comma to go frame-by-frame, you can see when he gained possession, then takes one step, then jumps into a landing, but not simultaneously with both feet. Based on when he gained possession, and his feet position and landing, was that last shot a travel? clip-share.net/video/B5-MhSqoRO0/video.html
Honestly it's a really hard play to officiate in real time and when slowed down, the ball is away from the camera so it is too hard to tell if the ball was caught with the left or right foot down. If the official rules the ball is caught when the right foot is on the floor, then the jump stop would be legal as both feet come down close enough together to be considered simultaneously. Not splitting hairs on that landing. But tough, tough play to rule on. Thanks for sharing.
With the airborne catch exception, does that mean technically I could “bunny hop” down the entire court as long as I never put 2 hands on the ball? (Not that one would, just taking to extreme for better understanding)
Two hands do not need to be on the ball for a player to be considered “in control.” It is a good general rule of thumb to use when going from dribbling to holding, but the official must use judgment as to when control begins.
more of these please
Thanks for watching.
That airborne catch looks like a walk to me .. def gotta send to my guys
Traveling plays are hard to rule on because ruling on the status of quick moving feet in real time is not easy.
Beautiful explanation 👌
Glad you think so!
good video....never thought of equating a step back with a jump stop, but will from now on....
Thanks for watching.
I think you got the rule wrong for the step backs, if you jump off 1 foot, you MAY land on 2 feet simultaneously and that landing IS your second step. Key word may. You can ALSO land on 1 foot in a non simultaneous way and pivot with the other, but you must pivot on the foot you just landed on. This is for when you take take off from 1 foot. And let’s not forget that if you take into account the gather step for step backs, if you time it right which is very easy with little practice, you can justify that you can pivot anyways, because a gather step means you haven’t actually taken a step yet, although since you have stopped that first step has already been planted, anyways, you still have another step you can take so you can definitely pivot
There is no gather step in NFHS
At the 5:11 mark that player was called for traveling because he didn’t dribble before taking two steps. Had nothing to do with the pivot. That was the right call
Not having spoken to the officials on this game, we cannot be certain as to why the whistle was blown, but based in the action of the players timed to when the hand goes up to stop the clock, it was more probable it was for the ending pivot than the initial stutter. With that said, if you know with 100% certainty the player was holding the ball at the time he established one foot as a pivot, and lifting before dribbling, you could indeed have a traveling violation. In our opinion, however, he was moving prior to catching the ball, continued to move while catching the ball, and started a dribble as soon as he had enough control to do so, still while moving. Very hard to distinguish a pivot in this scenario and thus a pass by the officials.
finally it makes sense on the hop step (1st vid)
Glad it was helpful.
5:25 if after a dribble I hop on one foot while keeping my hand over the ball (without palming the ball so that it is still possible to dribble) and as soon as my both feet are off the court I rest the ball in my hand(s), would it be legal to pivot after landing on my both feet simultaneously ?
@Officials Institute Thank you,
Thanks to your explanation of the rules, violations and fouls, I can now observe a basketball game with discernment.
hello - thanks you for the contribution - does all the explanations based on FIBA rules ?
These rules are based on the NFHS rules. For FIBA compliance you would need to check with your local rules interpreters. Thanks for watching.
On the last play. If the player crossed the ball and dribbled the ball one more time as he pushed off his right foot and did one two. Would it still be travel?
It comes down to when the player catches/holds the ball. If he pushes off his right foot before he catches/holds the ball it would be legal. If he is holding the ball when he pushes off his right foot, it would still be a travel.
if you do step back, does that mean you cant pivot either foot? thanks
euro step catches the ball ( changes the balls direction) while the foot is on the ground.
Euro steps can be tricky because we tend to expect a player to continue in the same path and direction, even though the rules do not state that is a requirement.
When you gather the ball while having one foot already on the floor, isn't that a zero step ?! So in that case you still allowed to 2 more steps therefore you can jumbstop with 2 feet simultaneously (step 1) then pivot (step 2), that would supposedly be legal ! Also you can step back with one foot then lend the other (still 2 steps in addition of the zero step which actually doesn't count) ! Any clarification ?
The NFHS does NOT have a zero step.
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So on the last clip. If he would have got rid of the ball before the second foot landed it would have been fine?
That’s a tough question because the rule doesn’t say you can jump off one foot and land on the other. It only addresses landing both simultaneously. With that said, most officials would probably call nothing in that scenario.
But if you're dribbling and you pick it up don't you have two steps after? Regardless if your moving forward or back? So the last guy if he was moving to the basket wouldn't he be good?
@Native Rez Media you are correct. Most layups are traveling, when following the rule as it’s written. However, one could argue that in a layup action play, it is extremely difficult to determine exactly when the ball is caught/held and what, if any, foot may be touching the floor. So in general, as officials, we don’t nitpick this situation.
@Officials Institute then basically everyone who goes in for a layups that gathers then takes 2 steps is traveling... If you go in for a layup (or floater sometimes) you do exactly what he did with that shot except you go towards the basket. Think about it... Gather, 1, 2...shot.
The notion of having 2 steps is not written anywhere in the rules book. It’s all based on when the ball is caught/held and where the pivot foot is, if any, at that moment.
thanks for sharing im doing referee on our place
doesn't the NFHS rulebook (i really don't know) include the pivot foot definition of FIBA (25.2.1) and NBA also known as 'gather step' or 'zero-step')?
In this video (IIRC) the pivot foot is defined as the foot touching the ground WHILE gathering the ball .... where FIBA and NBA define it as the foot touching the ground AFTER gathering the ball (when progressing/in motion).
I think according to FIBA/NBA video #2 wouldn't be a travel since the player gathers the ball (in motion) with one foot in the ground (= NOT pivot foot), then landing on both feet (= can choose one pivot foot) and hen pivoting.
But maybe high school rules are different.
@Officials Institute Thank you for the clarification.
Maybe it would be a good idea to state such differences/specialties in the video itself since it shows up between a lot of nba or fiba related videos at Clip-Share and is likely to cause confusion (in this already unfortunately messy field ;-) ).
NFHS does not have a 0 step in it's definitions of traveling or pivot. It is very specific in what a moving/dribbling player is allowed to do after catching the ball. This is a very distinct difference in rule interpretation between NFHA and FIBA. Thanks for watching.
Glad it helped
So when are you actually able to pivot off both feet after jump stop? All of these examples were when you can't pivot.
Good question. We probably should have a video of examples of the correct procedure more often. Since a jump stop is not technically defined within the NFHS rules book, the answer to your question may not be sufficient, but a jump stop is when you jump off one foot and land on both simultaneously. There is never an option to pivot. However, if a player catches the ball with both feet off the floor, and lands on both simultaneously, they would be able to pivot (even though this isn't really a jump stop.) OR lands on one foot, that would be the legal pivot foot if the player decided to pivot at that point. Does that make sense?
So, million dollar question, how the hell do you guys watch the feet for travelling and also watch the upper body for fouls?
Lots of practice.
The way I see it, the last scenario did a stepback. Right foot (during the gather phase) was lifted as soon as the left foot landed back wards (Step 1). Or did I just missed a frame on the video?
@Officials Institute To my knowledge jumpstop can be the feet simultaneously stop, or 1-2 stop. We were thought while training basketball it was the same (FIBA rules, and I would say they are more strict about travels than NBA). Even in FIBA in last 25 years (for how long I'm watching and playing basketball), you can see players in transition dunking from 1 step then 1-2 jumpstop motion, same as this last stepback but going forwards, very common while transition dunking. I always thought that was a travel, and referees were not calling those on transition dunks, but they were calling it "in game", basically it's the same as this "Harden" stepback you are showing... But even now, it's all cloudy to me, some referees told me that's a legal move, some told me it's not legal but it gets tolerated in transition dunk...
Right now there is a whole bunch of new "stepthrough "religion" that says you can jumpstop 1-2 from a drible, do your pivots around foot 1, lift a pivot foot (1) and jump off the non pivot foot (2) making a step-through... Please check instagram page stepthroughjoe there are hundreds of examples showing that, I still think that's a travel. Please shed us some light.
Looks like ball was caught/held with 1 foot touching the court, jumps off that foot legally, but then lands on 1 foot followed by the other. It’s only legal if the feet return simultaneously.
It´s hard to accept that the last one is in fact travel violation.
In NHFS, there is no gather step. Once the ball is caught, the foot touching the floor becomes the pivot foot.
I agree... 1st zap step is gather step(0 step)
that second step back looks legal tho...it doesnt have to be a jump step it can be a gather step and then two steps away from the hoop.
There is no gather step in high school basketball. This move would be legal in fiba and nba but not high school and ncaa
Thnx for replying
@Officials Institute that means there is no gather step rule in NFHS??!!
According the NFHS rules, this is a traveling violation.
Maybe the last examle could be a good ball?
Catch the ball is the 0 step, and continue step 1, 2 and shot.
Am I right?
According to NFHS rules, If a moving player catches the ball with one foot on the ground, and jumps off that foot, he must land on both feet simultaneously and cannot land 1-2. Even if he steps onto 1, he may only pick his original foot on the floor up but not return it. So either way you explain his action, he has traveled.
For ex. U ranning dribling the ball and try to shoot it but ball slip in ur hand can u pick it up? And shoot agian or pass? Or call u a travel or double drible?
What i mean is the ball slip n my hand and bounce ..can i touch it again?? Or its a double drible? Can u pls make a video for that because there so many discusion if its good or not
If the official judges this “slip of the ball” as a fumble, that player may regain control of the ball with no penalty as it is a loss of player control. They would then be able to attempt a try for goal again but could not dribble a second time.
I think the high school rules ask too much of officials. You can't watch for end-of-dribble at the hands and also see where the feet are at the same time to see which one (or neither) is on the floor.
NBA/FIBA rules are easier for imperfect humans to call, imho: Look at the hands first, ok dribble's dead, now watch the feet and count two steps.
Even on the slow-mo 5:58, to me it looks like his right foot is bent in the middle as if he's got pressure on that foot still. Really tough job you guys have calling it live by high school rules.
Agreed. Traveling is one of the tougher rules in the game.
I was checking and the rules have been updated in 2018 Fiba and 2019 NBA you can lift your pivot foot of gather and take two more steps so taking this into account hop step and step backa have to be updated aince now you can gather skip to another step and then another step and then shoot pass or even stop. So the step after your gather is the pivot foot, and the gather step is now in the rules as the step not counted.
@Peter Müller Also there is another way that travel is accomplished, by doing a hard plant back while gathering with left hand then skipping back from that same foot and landing on that same right foot then two steps back. This is the other travel because just like when moving forward, regardless of the zero step invention, you can't zero step skip land on that same zero step then step with other feet two more steps. But hey it's so skillful, why not, rules are meant to be broken?
@Peter Müller This is the same situation than in the 2000-2010 when refs started calling the "crab dribble" as travel finally, and then just let it go and then added a zero step. Now it will be the shuffle feet gather to a two step after plant step back aka the double crab extravaganza. I am sure they will make an extra step if moving backwards to plant for a shot, even though moving forward you can't plant with an extra step... maybe they just make a 4th step or no semantics I forgot, a gather step followed by two more steps followed by a plant step for taking a shot.
@Peter Müller By the way it gives an unfair advantage to the offensive player as well, so it goes against the spirit of the rules
@Peter Müller If you cannot see in that video a shuffle of the feet after the gather and see that it's steps backwards more than is allowed I don't know what to tell you. All I know is that in the future just like the NBA adjusted to Lebron's terrible footwork and implemented the zero step, there will be worse footwork and have double backwards shuffles be integrated into the rules to accommodate the future stars who's footwork is even worse.
@Peter Müller Well look at the video from MLG Highlights "Steph with that Harden double step back, that just like the original is indeed an uncalled travel" Watch it at .25x speed. He gathers with the left hand while his right foot plants for the step back. Then he takes one step while the gather continues, then takes another step with his right foot for another step back plant, and back takes two more steps to raise up for the shot.
This is extremely helpful, however, I found the last step back jumper clip so odd that it's a travelling, I have seen some 90's and 00's players including Michael Jordan, doing that step back jumper just like the last clip. Correct me if I'm wrong, if I don't pick up the ball with both hands and do the 1-2 step, is it still considered as travelling?
This step back move is legal in the NBA as the traveling rule is different than the NFHS.
I’m an official for Military basketball, and AAU. I’m glad I found this video. What I’ve learned is NBA players travel a lot.
None of these would be travels by the nba ruleset, so I think that you could not have possibly learned that from this video
Yes they do but it also important to remember that NBA traveling rules are different from NFHS.
Ha. Yes they do. Thanks for watching.
but Why James harden not called for travelling violation , his step back familiar to this last clip , he ddnt land the foot simultaneously!!
Because the NBA has a different rule set than the NFHS and allow for more movement.
when steph curry moves his hand to the side of the ball pauses when dribbling and pushes it to his opposite hand and continues dribbling with the opposite hand, is that traveling? the rule says it is if the player pauses and puts his hand under the ball and continues his dribble it is in deed traveling. it does not look natural and if it isn't should be.
Just remember, the NBA has a different rules set than HS or even NCAA. In high school basketball that is governed by the NFHS rules. if the ball comes to rest in one or both hands, it is considered a carry or palming.
5:18 catches ball with 1 foot on the ground. He was not airborne...
@Officials Institute That's right. Giving the benefit of the doubt is mostly a better choice. What you didn't see, you can't call. And calling a travel is one of the most difficult things to do. The game goes to fast. (And that is what it makes so beautifull).
Very hard to make that determination in real time with the angle we saw, so with that said, giving the benefit of the doubt is usually a better choice, but you could be right.
I’m totally confused why you say the last step back is a travel? After you pick the ball up one two steps unless you establish ball with two feet on ground.
@Officials Institute Another thing I wanna say is try running down the court going full speed with 1 foot on the ground catching the ball and only having the next step stopping you. Of course you get a one two pivot.
@Officials Institute Are you serious? Explain a lay up? One two up. I mean are we serious
NFHS rules state, a moving/dribbling player that catches the ball with on foot on the floor, may jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Not jump off that foot and land on one followed by the other. There is absolutely no mention of allowing a player two steps after picking the ball up. It just doesn't exist.
great video. the giant inflatable mascot at the 8 minute mark threw me off :)
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This is awesome that we are reaching all the way to the Philippines.
Sorry but I think you seriously misunderstand FIBA's traveling rules
For instance, according to FIBA, "If a player jumps off one foot on the FIRST step, he may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot. If one foot or both feet then leave the floor, no foot may return to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s). "
So the play at 04:30 is completely clean cause the player jumped off one foot on his ZERO step. He can still pivot after landing.
Unless you're not talking about FIBA rules
These rules are NFHS. Thank you for the FIBA interpretation.
Please!! The second situation is legal, he took zero step and then bunny hop is 1, he can take 1 more step before shooting, just check the rule again
@Officials Institute sorry, my fault
Zero step does not exist in NFHS.
Uhf hard to believe it takes 2 min to actually start the content of the video, that really needs to improve.
Good video though. I wish you'd include the two other examples of: 1- an unsimultaneous but legal step-back, and 2- is it legal to have a jump stop: where the dribble was picked up with one foot on the ground, followed by a simultaneous landing can be followed by a shot where one foot leaves the ground (or two even)? (I assume it's not legal)
The 30 second intro is way too long and slightly cringy, 5-10 seconds is acceptable to sit and watch, we already know what the channel is about - look at any other Clip-Share-channel out there :D
Just speed it up people.
Ok. We will try to improve.
Great content, terrible editing. Wasted a good 2:00 of empty intro fluff before getting to a single teaching point. And while it's good to see a play repeated one or two times to make a point, some of these were repeated three or four times. I don't need a "let's watch that one more time" unless you tell me something new. If I want to catch something again after that, I have my own rewind button. Trying to be constructive here... if I thought there was nothing of value, I wouldn't have even bothered to comment. I gave it a thumbs up anyway.
Thanks for the feedback. We’ll try to get better.
he catches and dribbles before jump stop! Not an airborne catch!
Exactly - I don’t see an airborne catch either.
Thanks for watching.
Second airborne example. Didn't catch ball airborne. Unless you can say he passed the ball to himself and caught it while airborne! He caught ball, dribbled, gathered , then jump stopped.
Sir, I am a student who plays basketball in South Korea and I wanted to ask you a question about traveling according to the NFHS basketball rules.
I first want to make clear that I am aware about the rule differences between NFHS and other basketball leagues. I also thoroughly read the NFHS Basketball Rulebook.
My question is “If the NFHS basketball rule does not accept the so called ‘gather step’, and it defines the pivot foot (first step) as the foot when the ball is in control (Section 44, Article 2.b.), why do the referees not call every layup step as travel?”
If you are asked to perform a normal right hand layup, I am sure everyone would catch the ball while their left foot is in contact to the floor.
Dribble -> Catch (left foot on floor) -> Right foot (1)-> Left foot (2) -> shoot (release the ball)
However, Section 44, Article 2.b, defines the pivot foot as the foot that is on the ground while the player catches the ball. Therefore, under this rule, shouldn’t every layup step be called a travel?
Dribble -> Catch (left foot on floor, 1, pivot) -> Right foot (2)-> Left foot (3, travel) -> shoot (release the ball)
To avoid travel, the player must catch the ball while in midair, which is hardly seen during a layup move. Nearly every player (NFHS included) catches the ball and steps two more. For example, in this video (clip-share.net/video/2n3WlhneGf8/video.html ) at 3:13, the player in white uniform (number 5) catches the ball while his left foot is on the ground. He then steps two more (right, left) and then releases the ball. In other words, he lifts and returns the pivot foot before releasing the ball. Also, a video you posted in 2019 (Title: Layup Traveling) is a good example of what I am trying to ask you.
Therefore, could you tell me why NFHS referees do not call every layup step a travel even though there is no ‘gather step’ rule?
@Officials Institute Sir, thank you for the fast reply. I never thought of looking at the "The Intent And Purpose Of The Rules" section. I just went straight to the main rules. Thank you again, and it has been a great help. I really enjoy watching your video :)
This is a very good question, and there really isn't a good answer for it other than, when a player is dribbling, it's very hard to determine when the ball is caught and held during a layup style action. So, officials have, over time, allowed more leeway in this motion. Remember, rules are written to keep one team from gaining an advantage over another, or create a disadvantage. In the NFHS rules book, there is a section before all other rules headed "The Intent And Purpose Of The Rules" and one of the lines in this sections states, "It is important to know the intent and purpose of the rule so that it may be intelligently applied in each play situation." With this statement, the purpose of the traveling rule, if applied in most layup situations, would not be relevant in this layup situation as the rule was not written specifically for these types of plays. Does this make sense? Not a great answer, I realize, but I think one that helps describe the mindset of the average high school official for layup situations.
I don't agree I'm afraid. Where you say he caught ball is wrong, he catches it in the semi circle outside the key not inside the key like you should. I think it was a travel - sorry
OK. Thanks for watching.
The second step back is not travelling ,if that is a travelling ,how come 012?
He catches the ball with one foot on the floor, jumps off that foot and land on the other two feet 1 after the other. In the NFHS rules, the only way this can be legal is if he jumps and lands on both at the same time. Thanks for watching.
People don't know how to do it right
Probably many reasons for it.
Step back hold the 🏀 and attempt to shot to step back 1foot and another foot is not a travel
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for watching
u can establish a pivot after a hop step what's this guy talking about
It’s all spelled out in rule 4.44 in the NFHS rules book.
These aren't NBA rules
These are all based on the NFHS rules.
dude you have purple eyes?