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Great idea, I'd love one but just can't justify $35 bucks for a strip of elastic fabric :/
Even if it’s completely dead, you can charge it for like 30 seconds and get 2 hours of use.
I think that this isn't the best idea cause of the fact that the Pencil isnt loading in this Strap and if I get home from School I dont take my iPad out of my bag recently. So at the next day the pencil is out of battery and I cant use it anymore
The Logitech is a little more cumbersome. You poor love, how do you manage to cope?
Do either of these have rubber stoppers on the keyboard to keep it from sliding?
You forgot to mention two thing: You can dettach the keyboard from the combo touch, turn it around and attach it again, so it folds back with the keys being on the inside. This way you don't have to worry about where you left the keyboard after using it. Number 2: the combo touch is finger print free!
@Scott McKenna I have just bought an iPad Air (5th gen) and Logitech Combo Touch for it. I can confirm that it can be attached backwards and folded back with the keys on the inside. Thanks to your review!
Maybe not all models do that. Because you definitely can with the model in this video.
I have a combo touch for the iPad (9th gen). You can't attach the keyboard the other way around and fold it back with the keys on the inside.
Thanks for that comment I had no idea!
Valid points for sure.
Great review. I purchased the Logitech Combo when it first came out and have not been disappointed. I was weighing up between Logitech and the Apple keyboard, but really you cannot compare them both. The Logitech is so multi functional. During the work day i can have it sit in front of me without the keyboard and use Universal Control with my Mac’s magic keyboard and trackpad. After work i can use it on the couch for personal emails and browsing etc. Use it without the keyboard for cooking or later watching content. All the while, protected with a nice case. I do agree if you only use your iPad Pro on a desk, maybe Apple’s keyboard is best. If you want something to take with you wherever you go, the Logitech Combo case is the outright winner.
After this review, I actually decided to go back to the Magic Keyboard primarily because of the keyboard and usage. I find the Logitech very uncomfortable on my lap or even desk in comparison to the true keyboard experience on the magic keyboard. I thin the Logitech is more versatile for sure, but for me, it's more about using it like a computer since that's how I use my iPad most often and the magic keyboard is quicker and more efficient to me.
I have used/owned both keyboard cases. For me, I like the Logitech a little better but, honestly, you can’t go wrong with regard to quality. I agree with you that I wouldn’t recommend any other keyboard case beyond these two at this point.
Thank you for such a thorough review & especially for the Stylus Sling to hold the pencil. Definitely like the Logitech Combo Touch over the Apple Magic Keyboard. I disliked that iPad kept falling off the Magic Keyboard, in addition to not having a protective case around that fits around the iPad. Even with being careful, Ipad like anything can fall. For those reasons I have returned the Magic Keyboard. Logitech Combo Touch provides better protection, the kick stand even provides for a nice secured hold with my fingers in multiple areas when I remove the iPad from the detachable keyboard. Go Logitech!!
I purchased third party keyboard (designed like logitech) but the angle of the ipad and keyboard was awkward for me so after a month i decided to purchase apple magic keyboard and i’m Loving Loving it! The raised feature for the screen makes a whole lot of difference. The downside is as he said, there’s is no stand/protection for the ipad once you use take it out.
The extra keys, the detachability, different angles, the slot for the pen, better protection and the price drove me to the Logitech one over apples. If Logitech just had a passthrough charging port it would be more or less perfect.
I agree about the pass through port. That would be the best for me.
Really like the thoughtful content for this clip, Scott! 👌 I myself more prefer the MKB as following reasons:1. Power plug: it is the game changer for all, as the most two dongles that I need to use is SSD and Power. Thus, for the already power plug in I could save the rest Thunderbolt 4 for the SSD conveniently and effectively. 2. The gestures: surely it is so efficiency for user as just open and use it rightaway, instead of adjusting like Logi.3. The Ipad itself while without MKB: in contrast with you, i found the easily deattachment of MKB with Ipad is the pro for user as it is so convenient. For protection now you would protect it with skin to the back or paperlike to the front. This still be my best option of Ipad Pro now and it would continuously for a while. Thanks and cheers!
@K C ??
having owned the magic keyboard for my iPad air for nearly a year now, I love the design and so many people have asked how its floating and literally looks like magic. Also, the keyboard feels like a macbook in my opinion, probably uses the same structure idk. But as you mentioned in the video, having no function row is really annoying when using it like a laptop, and the limited adjustment is also annoying as sometimes, i like to have it extended a little further but you simply cannot. And the biggest annoyance is when you take the ipad off the case, there is no case for you to protect the device or even use as a kickstand. So for that reason, as a student, anyone looking for a keyboard for their ipad, i would personally recommend the logitech combo as it has a detachable design where the case still stays on the ipad and has more screen adjustment as well as a function row. But, for typing on your lap which I do a lot, as the magic keyboard has a flat bottom, it's easier to rest on your lap like an actual laptop instead of the logitech which is designed like a surface device. But whichever you pick, I'm sure will suit your needs.
I just got the 12.9 inch m1 iPad Pro last month after using the 11 inch 2018 model iPad Pro for the last two years. Got the magic keyboard for both and its been incredible in both sizes. All the keyboard shortcuts and having zero lag on the trackpad/keyboard has been great. I use my ipad as a laptop most of the time, almost to the point where I forget that I can remove it from the keyboard. Its pretty clear they were built to go together from how well they work with each other.
Good call out on the benefit of the pass through charging on the apple keyboard. What that brought to mind, along with promoting going case less like a desktop machine, says to me apple designed their keyboard to be used in a desktop, stationary, scenario. To use the pass through charging you have to be physically attached to something that’s probably attached to a wall unless you’re using a battery.
After a year of using the Logitech, I’m still a fan, aside from the weight.I’ve had two Apple keyboards (not the Magic), and the material of the cover is both a fingerprint magnet and begins to wrinkle and flake after a few months. The Logitech has a cloth surface that suffers from neither issue.Also the Logitech features full side coverage and protects the Apple Pencil on the top where it stays charged - that’s a big deal for me. And the keyboard folds back so I don’t need to remove the iPad from the case to hold it in my hand.And, oh yeah. The Logitech is roughly half the price.
I have both of these cases, and I have to say that both are very good cases. But the choice will go down to use case. If you are someone who will type a lot on your iPad, the Magic Keyboard is the way to go. The angle is great for typing and I personally find that it is not as fatiguing to type on it as compared to the Combo Touch (perhaps due to the CT’s 70gf operating force vs the MK’s 60gf). But if you are someone who will use the iPad more as a tablet (in my case, as a writing tablet with the Apple Pencil), the CT is better because you can keep it in the case and use it as a tablet.
Great review Scott!I just want to share my experience with the Logitech Combo Touch which I think you missed discussing in this video. For those who are eyeing to buy the Logitech Combo Touch please bear in mind that the speaker side rubbers flare out after quite some time, I not only experienced this myself but saw another guy at the mall working on his iPad with the same issue. I had to report it to Logitech and they acknowledge it as an aesthetic issue/defect and informed the store to give me either a replacement unit or store credit (which I traded in for the Magic Keyboard) I owned a black magic keyboard before but then I sold the iPad (pre-IOS 16 news).+ opening the Logitech Combo Touch from its closed form is indeed a task every time you do it. :)
Great review. I really enjoyed it. The Stylus Sling looks like a useful product. I think I'll go with the Logitech case for its versatility.
Very good, detailed review. All very valid points expressed by Scott. I really couldn’t add anything except to say I use the Logitech Folio Touch which offers great protection and secures that Apple Pencil nicely. I feel I made the correct choice going with the Logitech keyboard case.
Great, thorough review. Appreciated. I’m with you. The Logitech feature that allows SEPARATION from the keypad, WITH the cover on the actual iPad is worth the price of admission. Plus $$$. I paid less for the Logitech model.
I’ve had my Magic keyboard now for 2 years and I absolutely love it. I love the feel of the keys, and it fits nicely on my lap, a pillow or laying in bed. I don’t use function keys, so that’s never been a problem - I just swipe down to access the controls I need. I do a fair amount of writing with the case also. At those times I either flip the case around, or snatch it off and write on the closed case. Either way works, and I haven’t felt it was an issue. Lastly, the viewing angle has never been a problem. I tried the Logitech and it just takes up way too much space on my desk, and can’t be used in tight spaces.
What exactly do you mean by flipping the case around? I'm considering buying a Magic keyboard for college classes, and I enjoy writing my notes directly into goodnotes with my apple pencil. I thought the magic keyboard did not let you flip the display around so that the ipad can lay on top of the keyboard, but if that's possible I would definitely like to invest in it. It seems like the best option over the logitech case for someone who will be using it on the horribly undersized desks in auditorium lecture rooms, since the base support is the keyboard itself.
I have 2 cases for my iPad, 1 for the keyboard and 1 without. I agree that my biggest disappointment is the missing function keys on the magic keyboard, and the viewing angle thing is a big problem.
What is the case that you use when you take your iPad out of the keyboard?
I've watched quite a few videos comparing these two keyboards and I think this one is the best. Thank you! I'm a bit concerned about the attachment of a USB-C hub to the Logitech. I don't know if the side protection on the Logitech might restrict attachment of the hub.
It’s definitely harder to get a cable in depending on the thickness, but I haven’t had a major problem yet. With that said, since this video I’ve switched back to the Magic Keyboard. I use my ipad a ton on my lap, and the Logitech is terrible on the lap.
Glad you enjoyed the video.
I guess the Apple Magic Keyboard would be a great tool for those who just want their ipads to be a notebook replacement and as a typing tool. The Logitech would make sense if you use it as a complimentary to a Macbook or an iMac plus having those expensive gadgets would be offset by the $100 off.
With the keyboard opening problem, you could use the stylus sling, therefore leaving an easier way of you to open it
I have both cases. Each is a good product and you can find the Logitech discounted to $150. Aside from price, however, go for Apple’s keyboard. When open it sits at a perfect angle for typing. Removal for note taking with the Apple Pencil is a dream. Unless you want to constantly pop the iPad inland out of the Logitech frame, you are carrying an extra heavy device for note taking. The Magic keyboard also sits the iPad firmly in your lap for typing. It is just a great design.
The Logitech Folio has a flap for the pen and it's viewing angles are awesome. I use it for my iPad Air 4 and the fact that I saved 130 odd dollars (compared to Magic Keyboard) was the cherry on top!
I enjoyed using the Logitech combo touch, but the rubber edges easily damage over time… I saw review photos and didn’t think it would happen to me right away, but eventually the rubber edges around the ipad stretched and do not go back to how it originally was. Also, the rubber suffers peel damage. The Logitech case also damages more easily. They keys are nice and flat, but after a few months, the paint started to fade… Aside from that, it’s a great case! Now I’m using the Magic Keyboard. My ipad is now limited in movement, but if feels more protected. The Logitech combo touch is an awesome keyboard/case for the ipad.. but it does come with flaws. The kick stand is nice, but I prefer using the Magic Keyboard for typing. It just feels better knowing my ipad wont flop over. Magic Keyboard for me.
I agree the edges on the logi tech get damaged a lot
I agree with most of your thoughts for sure. I now use the Magic Keyboard again as my only keyboard.
I own the combo touch, and love it…BUT I have had one warranty replacement due to the case warping by the vent holes. Logitech told me that issue was “not normal”. My replacement was fine for about 3 months and now it’s warping in the same exact places.
Best keyboard case I’ve seen is 360 degrees case with a hinge in the middle. It can be used as a laptop, or you just reverse it back , choose any angle and use it as a tablet. And it’s cheaper too, plus it has different lights and keys are really nice to press. Magic Keyboard is super overprised and can’t even go any angle back
Logitech seems more compatible with why someone would buy an iPad in the first place - the flexible workflow. Personally a folio case plus k380 keyboard has been 👌🏻
I totally agree man!! Why would you buy an ipad case that doesn’t allow you to use it like an ipad lol 😅
Yes but what about the trackpad ? It’s so convenient for productivity. The Magic Keyboard is a (expensive) dream.
Except mine is a Zugu case with a k380 keyboard.
That's my set up too!
that’s my setup lol
A few things not mentioned: 1. Magic keyboard raises the screen higher towards your eyes and closer to your fingers. So it's more ergonomic for both viewing and touch. 2. The Magic Keyboard is more "lapable". It doesn't have a kickstand to dig into your legs. 3. Both designs have minimal screen wobble upon touch, but the Logitech is a little better in this category.
@Aron Dencker thanks for your reply
@Omar Kharnivall there is a slight difference, and it’s much easier to accidentally cover and muffle the speakers, but it’s not the deal braking part of that product
@Aron Dencker ive noticed that the logitech combo blocks some of the speakers grills, did you noticed change in sound while using that case?
@H B you see how the keyboard is slightly sunken in? Well when you have the case open you can take the iPad out the magnets and slot it in the edge of the sunken in cutout and the top half of the stand, if you still don’t get it I can try send a photo or upload a drive link with a photo in or something. But it works a treat for me, even if the angle isn’t perfect
@Aron Dencker wait, can you please explain your last paragraph? Do you mean resting it on the Magic Keyboard when it’s closed? Sorry, I didn’t really get what you were saying but really trying to find a solution for the same issue.
Appreciate the thoroughness - really like how clean the magic keyboard is, but not sure it’s $300 clean. Maybe the magic key board in combination with a less expensive, better coverage case like an ESR magnetic case, but then you’re dealing with two cases still. Well done review of the two best options.
Surely the best way to use the iPad Pro : a folio case (I bought first the ESR and then an on sale Smart Folio), thin and lite, for most of the time usage, and the Magic Keyboard for sessions of writing
Yea I bought a Magic Keyboard with iPad 11 and enjoyed it, but debated the $399 CAD & no function keys like on others. I bought an on sale Logitech folio.
I prefer the keyboard folio over the magic keyboard except for the fact that those folios and smart covers break on me a year or two in. The logi keyboard looks like a super great alternative
I definitely don’t like the Apple Keyboard folio case, I don’t like how close it is to screen. It feels small and hard to type on. The magic keyboard feels natural
I had both of them, and keep combo touch. Expensive is always better. When people buy the cheaper one, the hunger to the expensive one is always kept until they finally buy it. But my experience is after getting used to combo touch, the Magic Keyboard only provides a more elegant experience that I’m working eleganter. At a expense of this, I have to bear the back camera when drawing, and use the ‘1300$ elegant’ very carefully (one damage costs from 26$ to more than 500$)And finally, I have to say, using iPad with a keyboard is still a performance art. Just bring a MacBook Air… and using iPad as a second scree. Another 500 gram doesn’t kill people.
The best part for me about the Magic Keyboard is the design of incorporating the pass though USB C on the opposite side of the IPAD USB C input, so you don’t have to snake the cable across you or saving that extra cable length.
I agree with that big time.
I recently bought the magic keyboard & iPad Pro 11 for PT course readings, Zoom & essays during downtime at work. After a couple days of justifying paying more than my MacBook Air, I exchanged for a Logitech folio on sale & an iPad Air 64GB (use cloud storage) over the iPad 10.2. Didn’t feel right paying $1400 + tax CAD 😄🤔
I would add, that even with the iPad in the case, it‘s not entirely protected since the edges are still very much exposed. Also you can open the Combo touch from the cutout for the pencil, especially if you use the extra pencil sling. With the Magic Keyboard you also can‘t get a flat angle for more ergonomic writing, however, I‘ve heard that use of the keyboard on ypur lap is more ergonomic with the magic keyboard.
If you use it on your lap regularly, the combo touch is a very bad option unfortunately. With that said, if you use it as a tablet often, or like the protection the case offers, the Logitech is great with that
What i like about the charge through feature on the apple ipad magic keyboard is that it then frees up the USB-C port on the iPad for Harddrives or other connections whilst still being charged.
Yes that’s a nice feature for sure. I personally don’t use a lot of external connections and hard drives on my iPad but that’s definitely a valid and strong point for some people.
By far the best review I have seen. Straight to the point and helpful. Not to mention you clearly stated what your opinions were without conflating them with the facts. Really appreciate that. One person's necessary feature is another person's waste of time.
So glad it was helpful. Thanks for the kind comment.
i originally bought the ipad for art, so i bought it with apples smart folio, which was amazing. and then i bought the magic keyboard for school, and i can easily switch between the 2 cases when its needed. if i need to work on an assignment, ill pop it on the keyboard, and if i want to sketch, i simply take it off, and put it on the smart folio. so, yeah
Great review. I’ve just bought an iPad A ir and I’m just exploring the benefits of using it in combination with my MacBook Pro for work purposes (email, slack, chrome, Evernote mainly)While I am enjoying using a separate portable device, I can’t put my finger on why it’s better than using the Macbook? Sure it’s less cumbersome and I am enjoying the change up and portability, but on paper the differences are minimal. What am I missing?
Thanks for the great review, I went with the Touch Combo, for the ability to separate and the added protection.
Glad that case will work our great for you.
i bought an Ipad pro one year ago and ordered the Logitech combo for the price and reasons you’ve mentioned . I use it since then but there’s one thing annoying me a lot is that the space bar key miss almost one on two times…. I review my messages before launching and got to add the spaces on 3-4-5 words each time…So i just ordered the magic keyboard. Hope i’ll like it.
With the Logitech, no need to ditch the keyboard when using it with sidecar, just flip the keyboard to the back. Also, the Logitech doesn’t sit well on your lap. The magic keyboard is much more balanced on the lap
That’s sad about lap use. Love the look of the Logitech. I’m disabled so need to use it in my lap
I 100% agree about lap use. I agree so much, in fact that I have actually gone back to using the magic keyboard more often for that exact reason.
Hi Scott, I’m totality In love with the logi, I have had it for long time now. Another thing I really love with it is, that you actually can put the keyboard on the back and still have it with you and you don’t typing on it when you turn it. But if I am doing that, the iPad can’t stand by it self. Hopefully logi will make that possible one day. The thing I don’t like and it is the only thing, it is pretty heavy, but I can live with it
Both have pros and cons for sure.
Hey, I do curious about your experience using Apple’s case trackpad, is it a lot better than the Logitech case? Because I’ve been using MacBook Air for the past few years and its trackpad is second to none. Thanks, love your video
I think the trackpad is better on the magic keyboard, yes. But the Logitech isn't bad.
There’s a version of the Logitech case without the detachable keyboard and also the pen has its place better designed, and the carry mode is really sturdy. Check all the other versions out before you make a decision.
Too bulky and heavy. Too difficult to remove. Sorry
I have the folio touch. I agree it's the best.
@Mauricio Martínez Toledo sorry.. it’s iPad / logitech folio touch
could you tell what model you're referring to?
A perfect review. For what I want in a tablet like experience, I will buy the Logitech. Thank you for the great review.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Very good comparison, but in my case, I use my iPad Pro without a keyboard most of the time, and I need a cover to protect the screen, so I bought the Smart Folio which I love (expensive but so clean, thin and useful). For this reason, I prefer the Magic Keyboard case, because it’s much easier to use it and remove it, then put the Smart Folio on instead instantly. With the Combo Touch, when you remove the keyboard, you have nothing to protect the screen, and it’s not so easy to remove the case to use a Smart Folio.
Where to buy smart folio from. Please share link
Great points for sure.
I like the Apple one more for 3 reasons,Glass trackpad and scissor key switches. Usb port for charging. Lastly, no need for kickstand, very very versatile.I use ESR trifold case when I'm not working, just travelling, or playing game etc..
Have you tried using the Logi combo case (without the keyboard) on the Magic Keyboard stand? Are the magnets strong enough to hold the iPad with the case on? Long story but seems like I can get them both together. (Now have solid experience with both for around 6 months each individually)
Thanks for sharing! Apple agrees with this option as well considering its one of few brands sold by Apple on their site, and in-store.
Great vid as always Scott. The iPad is still my favourite device. I have the cellular option, the touchscreen is so tactile but wish apple would stop limiting it and give us Final Cut.
They've announced final cut for the ipad when ipad OS 16 gets released
They're probably never going to give the ipad final cut. The only reason why they decided to add the m series chip into the ipad was simply because its cheaper to do so, theres no need to create a new chip just for the ipad. They're probably also trying to do the same thing for the iphone. If they did allow the ipad to have macos apps that will destroy macbook sales because the ipad is way more modular than a laptop. Apple will never do anything that decreases sales. So no way they'll ever do that, they want the ipad to remain as a capable tablet and thats all it will be
@Charles Telerant oh man 100% if I updated I’d go the cellular version again. Tethering is ok but the convenience of being instantly online if your away from wifi a lot is super helpful.
Do you find yourself using the cellular much? I’m about to buy an iPad so I’m still debating vs just tethering my phone .
Great review! I also share the same views as you! I love the ability to detach the keyboard, also it provides protection to my iPad.
Think I’m going to invest in the combo. Decisions decisions
I bought the Logitech Slim Combo in 2018 at Amazon.This was practically the same device for the iPad 12.9 gen 1&2 with the homebutton.It made the slim and light iPad thick and quite heavy but it was good protection.BUT:I just checked with Amazon. They failed three times. It was always the keys from a to d or f that failed (left side, middle row) within 6-8 months. After the last one, the keyboard was not available anymore since the homebuton pro iPads had been discontinued.Now I am waiting for my new 12.9 gen 5 to arrive and I am thinking again what to do….I will certainly not pay the 399€ the apple keyboard cost nowadays, but my experience with the Logitech slim combo was really bad.
My experience with logitech from the last 15 years is that the quality of their products vary greatly. I’m still using a Logitech Illuminated and a Z-5500 sound system, and I bought them both between 10 and 12 years ago, while other products survives less than a year.
Logitech by a mile. I do not like the row of function keys. They should either lose the lock key or move it to the left so it is not the first key when you are working in the dark. I always hit it by accident and then I have to stop and turn the ipad back on. I will take the time to open the case up.
Yep the logo tech combo case frick'n rocks. I love the apple magic keyboard, it's super nice, but it's missing what makes the combo case functionally better: back lighting, function keys, and flexible form. These three prove transformative- Apple! Add these to the magic keyboard now! 😊😉😎
The magic keyboard does have the back lighting, and it is adjustable.
I recently purchased an iPad Pro 12.9 inch to use as like a laptop. I watched someone else's review of the Logitech Combo Touch and was instantly sold on it for all the exact same reasons you mentioned. I also bought a Pencil holder too, and never thought to put it on the kickstand part of the case! It's been annoying to slide it on and off each time I want to use it, so definitely gonna do that. Great review of real-life usage from the Logitech Combo Touch from my experience with it the last three weeks (Seriously, Apple, why no row of function keys on your Magic Keyboard?!?!).
@Amber Turner that was my only fear. now I'm definitely buying the Logitech. thank you
@Talha Tariq I’ve used mine quite a bit and it has not happened once to me at all.
I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?
My Logitech Combo Touch (for 12.9" iPad Pro) only last 3 month (bought in Nov 2021). I applied the RMA, but there's no stock to replace the broken one since March. What a worldwide company.
To open the case, what I do is I let the case sit on the table first, flip open the kick stand FIRST, then easily you lift the thicker side while just allowing the thinner side, which is the keyboard, to naturally bolt out and there, after landing the screen, you’re good to go, there’s no more need to “reach out” to the kick stand!
I already have the Apple Magic, and when I am watching videos and want the keyboard out of the way, I just flip it over and lean the iPad against the back. It’s not a perfect solution, but as much as I would like to switch to the Logitech, I can’t justify buying it when I already have the Apple.
Yea it’s not ideal but I do like the Magic Keyboard better.
My main reason to get the iPad is the pen (drawing, diagraming and white boarding in meetings). The Apple case doesn’t work in that scenario. I have a M1 Mac mini with a 32” 4K screen plus a Keychron K4 keyboard for “regular” computer work. I also have a Macbook Pro, but I hardly use it anymore. I had the case for two days and had to return it, because I found it way too limiting and not protecting at all off case.
By far the best comparison that I have found. Great work! And I agree on the Logitech as #1.
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Thanks for the kind words. I will say that after this review for the last year, I have actually switched back to the Magic Keyboard. As someone who types and uses it like a computer more than anything else, the magic keyboard is better for that purpose.
I dont understand why Logitech didnt make the combo touch that will work on the 1st and 2nd gen ipad 12.9. iOS 15 update allows a trackpad and mouse to work, so why wouldn’t they make a combo touch for the 1 and 2 gen. I have the Logitech create keyboard on my gen 2 12.9, its very nice but would love the trackpad for a more laptop feel. Does anyone have any further insights. Into this?
I prefer the Logitech Combo Touch case for its versatility
I think I might go with the Magic Keyboard for my iPad Pro 11 to distinguish it from my Microsoft Surface.
Awesome review! I have the Apple Magic Keyboard on my 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 and love it. I'm getting the new 2022 iPad Pro 12.9 (giving the 2020 to my daughter) and looking at both keyboard options you've reviewed. One complaint for both of these keyboards would be the added weight. I would think the Logitech adds even more but with better protection as it's a full case. It's a trade-off. I think you've convinced me to go with the Logitech as I really like the idea of kickstand without the keyboard. I don't travel enough to be concerned about the added weight. Thanks and nice job!
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Nobody seems to mention using the iPad in portrait mode! These cases seem to force you to lose functionality of a very expensive tool…
Thanks Scott. Great real world review. Both cases are great, what is your personal application. I lean your direction, love that I can snap a protected iPad away from the keyboard.
Great review, based on your suggestions I’m going to get the Logitech case. 😊 Could you link the sling you have your apple pen please?
Great video, impressively concise and helped me decide 👍
The only issue I have with the Logitech keyboard case is that they removed the flap that keeps the Apple Pencil secure. I am nitpicking here, but it’d be nice to see this come back in a later refresh
I use the Stylus Sling. It's the best way to go.
My fav combo is still the Apple Keyboard Folio (NOT the magic keyboard) and a separate logi pebble mouse. Keeps the ipad much ligher during normal use, and the keyboard is water-proof(ish?) So I dont have to worry as much about eating and drinking next to it.
@Scott McKenna totally agree, but I find the small trackpad on the magic keyboard to be a lot more work than just touching the screen. Pulling out an actual mouse when you really need to use one gives a better experience for me, and having a keyboard folio + light travel mouse like a logi pebble is still a lot lighter than the magic keyboard
I just wouldn't like having to pull a mouse out when I wanted to use it. That seems kind of cumbersome.
I have almost the same, but with a logi mx anywhere 2s
Great and helpful review. I love the Logitech setup a lot!
I wish they had this version of the Logitech case when I bought mine (which I love). I have to flip my keyboard underneath.
I like the logi tech one because you can pop the keyboard off and your ipad is in a case 👌👌
I wavered between the Apple Magic Keyboard and the Logitech Combo Touch. And now I can decide which is the best for me. Thanks a lot.
Excellent review. I have seen four similar reviews, yours is the clearest and best. Thanks.
The stylus sling recommendation was the best part of the video for me. I love my magic keyboard. Thanks! Plus a well rounded video!
I would love a link also🙂
@Scott McKenna Where can I buy it? Do you have a link ?
Yes. I love my stylus sling as well. Super useful.
Do you have to add an software app. to the iPad to use the Logitech Combo? How much bigger is the Logitech Combo vs. the Apple Magic Keyboard? I'm worried about it fitting in my iPad bags or sleeves. To bad they didn't put a little flange on the Logitech to open it.
No software is needed, it works exactly like the magic keyboard. You attach it and bam it works!
Ive been an iPad user since they appeared. I now use a 12.9 and a 10.5, two different animals. My 12.9 is on my side 100%, email and text, scanning the web, etc. I use MS Word and Excel, I edit pictures, etc. Most of all I take it everywhere. For my 12.9 I swear by the Logitech Create Case. There customer support is excellent and I’ve used it. Keyboard is great, case is very secure and protective.Make sure you choose the right Logitech, they have a few. TheApple case is a piece of crap. Add the Logitech mouse and you can do almost anything. My 10.5 I use for Navigation, that uses a different case. I also use an Apple Pencil with my 10.5, so for that I use another case. Don’t forget the very best glass screen protector and a Paperlike cover for the pencil.
Great comparison! Could you please link the stylus sling for the Apple Pencil?
Tablet mode??? What other mode is there for a Tablet? 😁 I haven’t tried the Logitech but it looks quite interesting. I do have the MK and it’s okay.Nice review.
One thing i dont like with the logitech is that the color scheme available isn't just my type😤😭 it also bothers me cuz of the weird texture of the keyboard or the type of material they use to the case😭 i wouldn't complain if white and black( their black looks so gray) is the choices
I considered both. My son has the Magic Keyboard. I bought the Logitech Combo Touch because I thought it is BETTER than the Magic Keyboard. Based on the variety of ways I use it, the Magic Keyboard just doesn't match up for quality (the PU material just seems cheap to me. Sorry Apple.) Don't think just because it's $120 more that the Magic Keyboard is better. It's not. And my son is jealous. How often does that happen?
I wanted to treat myself this time, when I got my Ipad, so i got the magic keyboard, its something to get used to, when you’ve been a windows user since I’ve used a computer since 1999. But the keys and the easy functionality and the way you dont have to worry about the power at all is just nice, and it just screams luxury xD I also have the new apple pen so everything is just so perfect together.
I like the magic keyboard as well.
I suggest using the Pitaka MagEZ case which fits the Magic Keyboard.
Hi, I just bought Logitech couple days ago but I got an issue relating to the globe key. I couldn't use it for switching between languages. Did you have this issue like me? Also, do you have any ways to set it as the language switching key.
Kasidit, thanks for pointing that out about the globe key. I can’t understand why Logi didn’t make it workable.BTW, I watched another video about the Logi keyboard case. The reviewer-the only person who has brought it up in a review of the Logi that I’ve watched so far-pointed out that, on the Logi keyboard, he was not able to hold certain keys down in order to select letters used in other languages which use the Roman alphabet. He also mentioned that he couldn’t find any *other* way to do so either. I didn’t read through the comments to see if someone showed some way to do it with keystroke-combos (like on my 2009 MacBook).
I hate that for my 2019 iPad pro (12.9) I have to buy cases that are universal to the newer versions, I absolutely hate that the camera cutouts are big for no reason, just make another version.
I have an iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (4th generation) and a Logitech case but it must be a generation prior to the one in the shootout here. Mine doesn’t detach from the case, or have a variable angle and it uses Bluetooth (not the magic connector) to connect. That being said, I’m very happy with it and still think it’s a great option and boosts the productivity factor of the iPad by a lot.I have to type / edit documents in French and English. On my Macs, if I want an accented character like “ é ” I simply push on the regular keyboard ‘e’ a little longer and on the screen it presents all of the available accented ‘e’ characters. I then type the number corresponding to the type of ‘e’ I want and it places it into my document. (On an iOS device, using the on screen keyboard is kind of the same; you hold the ‘e’ but then slide over to the one you need, let it go, and it’s in your text). On the Logitech case / keyboard I have, if I hold down the ‘e’, predictably, I just get a whole bunch of e’s in my document until I let go. (If I want many e’s on my Mac I have to hit the ‘e’ as many times as necessary).I have the option of changing the language of my Logitech keyboard to French (very easy to do, even dynamically, by just hitting the little ‘world’ key on my keyboard, but then my actual keys change values and I need to remember to hit the “/“ for an “ é “. Also, using this method, some accented characters require you to remember two keystrokes to get the one character… VERY error-prone and time-consuming.I’m thinking that because the AMK and newer gen LCC both use the Magic Connectors that the keyboard might act like on a Mac.So, question : Do both the current Apple Magic Case and Logitech Combo cases operate like a REAL Mac keyboard for accented chapters ? i.e. if you hold down a key the DEVICE will present a little menu for you to choose the desired alternate character ? Or do they both just give you a repetitive string of that character ?(You may need to ‘install’ a second language on your iPad temporarily to test this function)Thanks !
One thing that keeps me from considering the Logitech keyboard is using it on my lap. My lap isn’t large enough to accommodate the keyboard and then the kickstand that holds the ipad back at an angle.
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Good review. You touched on all the fine points.
Glad it was helpful.
Neither for extended use. They are not ergonomic.
Great video, you have made my choice a lot easyer....Logitech Combo Touch it is.
Glad to help.
The nerve of Apple to even charge 2/3 the price of what an iPad costs for this keyboard case is ludicrous. They always seem to go out of their way to give you way less than they should AND expect you to pay a massive premium for being put over a barrel and given the rear end treatment. No Vaseline either.I will not buy it. I'll get an aftermarket item. Same goes for the stupidly overpriced pencil too. You can get one for 1/10th the cost of Apples' pencil and do EXACTLY the same thing.Go figure.I just wish Apple could lose their arrogance and stop the greed.
I want a case WITHOUT the physical keyboard. I prefer an lcd touchscreen keyboard/trackpad. Is there a case that does that?
How easy is it to use the Logitech away from a desk/table top when you don’t have a smooth surface to anchor the back strut. Looks to me like it’s not very good if you’re going to use it on your lap.
Great quality video/review. What mm lens did you use for filming this?
Awesome review and comparisons, thanks man!
I just watched this after I purchased the Logitech and this video makes me feel better about my decision so thank you!
@Cam Toews maybe the Logitech keyboards you got were imitations. There are many of those out there.
I’ve been thru 4 different Logitech keyboard cases for iPads over the years. They always fail, the keys stop working, they are junk. I just bought the Apple keyboard and the keys are a much higher quality
@Ryan Sparzak Yes it does.
Me too. I love the Logitech. Far more convenient. I’m glad I chose it.
does the logitech support the finger motions on the track pad?
You did not mentioned the (much heavie}) weight of the Logitech keyboard, which is an important consideration at least for me