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Putin's army will 'wither on the vine and die' if Crimea bridge taken out | Maj. Gen. Chip Chapman
Putin is using conscripts as ‘battlefield meat’ | Kira Rudik
- Published on Feb 16, 2023 veröffentlicht
- "Putin will launch a new offensive. He started doing a mobilisation last year. Huge amounts of people are being trained and used as battlefield meat."
Ukraine is creating a new strategy that relies on western weapons to repel Putin's offensive, says Ukrainian MP Kira Rudik on Frontline with Lucy Fisher.
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Thank you Kira for a very well spoken explanation how it is to live in a war zone. It is important that we listen and understand as far as possible. And above all meet your needs to defeat this monster that is killing your nation as it also could be our nation.
With people like you Ukraine will prevail. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Ms. Rudikn is a very effective communicator. She makes it look easy. Vivid and gut wrenching.
Thanks Times Radio for a longer interview with Kira ❤🇺🇦✊🏻
We need to hear her voice of reason more often.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
The problem was the fear of either WWIII or putlers nuke threats. But weighing it up now, the worst would be to not give them what they need. Such a smart nation the Ukrainians and their amazingly smart army, Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦💪💙
Smart and humane politician from a heroic nation 💛💙 slava Ukraina
As heroic as the 2000nato and Azovs hiding behind 600 old men, and women and kids in Azovstel, Mariupol, till surrendering en masse, with a US Col. captured crawling out of a drain.
Keeping in mind that US/nutto -UKR shelled Donetsk and Lugansk for 8 years wrecking coal mines, electrical substations, water pumping stations and residential housing killing 21,000 civilians.
@Tommaso Turek The 'headline only' -'facts' - that turned some heads at the beginning of russias war last year, just ooze sweaty desperation a year later.
The russian inspired headlines mean nothing when everyone has the backstory, context and undeniable facts my friend... the entire world hasn't been 'kremlinised' and are free to view conflicting informations from many sources and employ discretion, critical thought, morals, and humanity in understanding the big picture and Russias part in it .
2 hours ago
As heroic as the 2000nato and Azovs hiding behind 600 old men, and women and kids in Azovstel, Mariupol, till surrendering en masse, with a US Col. captured crawling out of a drain.
Keeping in mind that US/nutto -UKR shelled Donetsk and Lugansk for 8 years wrecking coal mines, electrical substations, water pumping stations and residential housing killing 21,000 civilians
@Tommaso Turek we've all
I wish we had politicians like Kira in the UK that stood for what is right and true. Keep up the good fight long live Ukraine.
That's was a brilliant conversation from the Ukrainian lady, she make us to understand that who are the Russian people.
Thank you Kira for sharing with us about the challenges for Ukrainians of this dark evil war of putin and his gang. The Resilience and Great Inner Strength we see from the Ukrainian People is truly Remarkable as they defend their Freedom and Rights against the darkness of evil, we pray for your victory as your light shines brightly over the evils of aggression. 🙏🏻🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🙏🏻
not fair you are a woman too
Kira Rudik is an eloquent, articulate, and intelligent lady, who has communicated superbly throughout the war with Russia. Ukraine has been totally under estimated by Russia, and they will prevail
Thank you Kira 💛 for your strength and conviction that Ukraine has! Putin and Russia must not only stopped, but also crippled to the point where they will never be able to get up again. Ty
"358 days into my 3 day war, I am still master strategist" -Vladimir Putin
Well he did call it a "special" mission . Mummies little soldier was home schooled .
He has an answer to that” It’s all going to plan” . Plan deliberately secret.
@Consider This the plan is figured out afterwards
I like the phrase Putin using his own people like a "battle meat".
Mechanically recovered meat thereafter.
The people of Ukraine never cease to inspire my admiration. I don't think we, who have always known peace, can understand, can truly imagine, what they are going through. All this on top of mourning loved ones, seeing the destruction of all that constituted your childhood, your adolescence, your place on earth. Slava Ukrainie! Heroyam Slava! I just wish the dithering, short sighted, cretinous, western leaders would act instead of 'considering' or 'talking to our allies'. War demands action, not words, and not hypocritical standing ovations.
Let's get those supplies to Ukraine... Whatever they need to push back the Orcs.
we have given them $100 billion already. What more do they want?
And as soon as possible.
Let them throw stones 😂😂
@Withnail1969 everything we have given Ukraine has been old stock that is close to expiring. Yes we've given some advanced systems, but mostly it has been stuff that needs to get replaced anyway or is on the way to getting replaced.
@Withnail1969 ...As much as they need, considering these weapons were made for this. As long as they continue to fight well why not?? We're not dying and i absolutely love seeing Russia get payback for Korea and Vietnam.
Kira is such a wonderful and strong lady ❤️
MP Rudik is such a wonderful representative of her country and people. She has provided us with a straightforward, honest, and accurate portrayal of the situation in Ukraine during the past year. Kira has become a member of all of our families!!! Best wishes to Kira, her family, and Ukraine.
THE FREE WORLD STANDS WITH HER AND UKRAINE!
Very impressed with Kira Rudik and all the Ukrainian leadership. Their bravery, resilience, and passion for democracy should be an inspiration to us all.
From dark days will come a bright future. It's a fine nation.
@David Murphy Obviously you don't mean the "resurgent" Russian Empire.
Just like in every other war Russia is using Conscripts as meat ..!
Kira is great - 💛💙 Slava Ukraina
I'm amazed how Ukrainians are able to face the Putin invasion in the beginning with simple molotovs' and old Russian weapons, here's hoping Ukraine gets Jets and more ammo to thwart that maniac's plans and send them back to where they came from weakened to a point where invasion becomes a history lesson not to repeat.
I believe Molotov cocktail was a Finnish invention when invaded by the Russians.
Brilliantly said 👍🏻🇺🇦💪💙
@Gerry Houska They were a reply to the Molotov's Soviet "humanitarian supply" bombs sent to Finland. An apertif after Russian artillery shelling.
She needs your support otherwise she might give up and the country will survive.
I have heard Kira Rudik speak many times and I am always impressed by her honesty and conviction to the cause of Ukraine. Now is the time for democracies around the world to step up and support Ukraine in this war. It is our collective war against all forms of repressive and autocratic regimes like Russia.
Wise up , honesty , are ya having a laugh . lies after lies
Pukin and his regime must be held accountable for their crimes.
@Paul Langton-Rogers That seems not only a realistic scenario but also inevitable. It seems like Putin knows it too. Perhaps his unspoken goal now is to outlast the war , However, that may not be possible judging from the current state of the war.
Putin’s days are numbered, in my humble opinion.
Except most of the Russian conscripts said "Yes". So that was their decision and if they become 'battlefield meat', then their training wasn't good enough. Sorry, but I served my country and survived because the UK has troops specially trained - including the all the other volunteers of our Armed Forces. Proper training keeps people alive. Slava Ukraine! 🌻🇺🇦 🌻
“Most of the Russian conscripts said yes.”
The thought of conscript and “yes” does not compute.
@Jon S There are always alternatives and everyone has to live with the consequences of their decisions.
If the West is half as brave as the Ukrainians, meaning giving everything Ukraine needs to win the War, the War was already finished to Ukraine's favor, no doubt in my mind! I'm ashemed for the passive posture of the West which costs a lot of precious lives of Ukrainians. I'm praying for Ukraine, Slava Ukraine!
war is shameful
@Chexsum I'll pay you one way ticket to Moscow to tell that to poo-poo-tin
@Ruwayda Struwe what exactly Russia did for Ukraine??? Besides killing 3.5 million of them in state sanctioned starvation, deporting to Siberia and sending to gulags another 1.5 million (including the Crimean Tatari, using them as canon fodder in ww2... What exactly Russia ever did for any nation they subjugated?
@Chexsum what's shameful is violating international law, invading a sovereign neighbor, committing war crimes, and most of all the people who justify such evil.
Great interview! 🇺🇦
The trouble with jets are training and logistics. More drones and longer range artillery and surface to surface missles and better air defense can be provided fairly quickly.
You provided a thoughtful comment. To prevail on a modern battlefield requires Infantry, Armor, and air assets working together in a coordinated operation. Training to fly an F-16 obviously takes a long time. The training should have begun February 25 of last year, not last week as may be now happening. You left a good comment.
But the problem is, how does Ukraine fight against an invader that has almost complete air superiority over your country with 100's if not 1,000's of fighter jets and bomber planes? No amount of ground air defense or missile systems will be enough, and their soldiers on the battlefield, artillery and missile launcher positions will be highly vulnerable to attack. So far oddly, Russia has been unwilling to use its fighter jets air superiority in Ukraine and is focusing on pounding the country with artillery and missiles, the typical Soviet style war method.. but once they feel confident enough to use their air power advantage, Ukranian will be at a major disadvantage.
Historically in conventional warfare, no military has lasted long against another which has superior and vast air power. We saw it in WWII with the German airforce that made short work of countries, even cities in Russia initially, wiping out nearly all their tanks. We've seen it with the US in Gulf Wars. Overwhelming air power crushes a country and its armies rapidly. Look how effective Israel has been at defending its little country against constant missile attacks, and in the 6 days war where multiple Arab countries launched a massive tank offensive on Israel which the Israeli airforce destroyed almost completely using just their advanced fighter jet air power advantage.
Ukraine will need modern fighter jets, even if Russia doesn't use its air power superiority and air force, just to give Ukraine the strategic edge on the battlefield, and to more effectively protect its airspace from ever more long -range destructive missiles and drones Russia is firing. The sheer quantity of them Russia is using makes it difficult and expensive for the West to re-arm Ukraniane at the rate they're using missiles and artillery shells. Ukranian's military leader said they're only at present able to stop 70% of Russia's missiiles and drones. Giving Ukranian fighter jets will make a huge difference as well as the tanks, they'll be able to target Russian positions from the sky and push the Russian's further and further back.
Then there's the enormous cost (to the West) of rebuilding Ukraine after this is all over, which is now into the trillions of dollars, with large areas reduced to rubble. Everyday Ukraine is getting pounded by Russia, and that rebuild cost to us gets higher and higher. We should stop dithering and just give Ukraine 1,000+ tanks, 200+ fighter jets asap once they're trained to use them. It's in their immediate interest to save lives and give them everything they need to defeat Russia's ground forces, protect their airspace more effectively at a sustainable cost. And its in our interests to preserve what's left of Ukraine to limit the future cost of rebuilding Ukraine's cities. TBH, I don't know why NATO countries don't just send at least some tanks and fighter jets with NATO personnel in Ukranian uniforms right away, We're already in a proxy-war with Russia, so why not deploy NATO covertly while the training of Ukranian forces is underway. What does NATO have to fear from Russia? All Putin's threats have come to nothing as we've crossed each of Putin's red lines on NATO invention, how much worser can it get?
Russia could keep this going for years, pounding away at Ukraine's cities, even if they withdraw their ground forces...Ukraine absolutely needs full control of its airspace and a longer range defensive capability to stop Russia doing that and to show Russia they're equally capable of hitting targets inside Russia.
@Paul Langton-Rogers Russia barely has an air force and they are afraid to risk it. Air superiority my a$$.
@paullangton-rogers2390 I should have been more clear. Even if the ball got rolling today it would be at the end of this year or next before you actually got any. Russia uses rail exclusively for transportation to Ukraine. If you had weapons immediately that took out bridges within 150 miles of your borders it would a much greater advantage than waiting for jets. Soldiers win battles logistics win wars.
@Paul Langton-Rogers I don’t disagree with the position you present. The fastest way to end this war is to empower Ukraine to win the war. Imposing real economic sanctions against Russia and secondary sanctions against Russia’s enablers would also help.
There is only one resolution to this conflict. Ukraine must recover all territory it had in 1991, and become a NATO member. Anything less invites perpetual wars with Russia, and poses more threats to democracies around the world.
Ms. Fisher conducted an outstanding interview. Many thoughtful questions presented here that developed issues of interest to us all.
What can be said about MP Rudik? Everyone watching this presentation wishes she were our representative!!
Thank you Times Radio for another fantastic presentation.
Thank you Kira❤
Слава Україні! 🌻🇺🇦
God bless Ukraine in every way !! Amen !!! Every week Ukraine is getting more support from other countries that now know Ukraine should be a free country and are aiding Ukraine too !!!
Stabdard , traditional Russian and Soviet tactics: soldiers are just cannon fodder to be used in mass frontal attacks regardless of human cost. All that matters is to win by whatever means necessary.
@Paul Langton-Rogers Putin has made it abundantly clear that Ukraine is just the first step: anywhere where there are Russian minorities is fair game fir his territorial ambitions: Moldova, Belarus, the three Baltic States, Finland, Kazakhstan and other central Asian Republics , Georgia, Armenia etc etc. Reimposing a Soviet Russian Empire in countries which have become independent plys disarming central Europe eg Poland. Putin is a megalomaniac. He and his elite know full well that using a nuclear weapon will result in devastating counter strikes. That is why no nuclear weapons have been used since 1945. All Putin has managed to do is increase the joint borders with Nato by 1000km so he now borders Nato members directly : Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, USA (Alaska). Nato has land based neucs in Europe only in western Germany and Belgium. There are none in central Europe.
Ukraine has almost every country in the world standing with them now for now they are understanding how important it is to be your own country and culture period !!! Amen !!!
If Russia is losing 800 or more troops a day, and if Ukraine is losing far fewer, then it benefits Ukraine to remain on the defensive and increase its defensive capacity.
If Russia is losing 800 troops a day, that's 5,600 troops per week. And at that rate, Russia would lose over 250,000 troops per year. Over 4 years, Russia would lose over a million troops.
At some point, the Russian establishment is going to realize that such losses are unaffordable and at that point something in Russia will change.
And then the wounded ….times 2-3 which is an enormous quantity of Russian trauma. Plus, a generation of Russian males wiped out!
You wrote a thoughtful comment, but Russia is an autocracy with security forces eliminating any dissent. Putin, the Oligarchs, and senior government officials don’t care about casualties. Russia fought single battles in WWII where they had casualties approaching one million. Russia will not run out of soldiers. Ukraine needs to re-occupy all of its territory, then engage in the defensive posture you suggest. Good comment!
@timothy brady Without American Lend-Lease the Soviet Union would have been obliterated. Now Lend-Lease is helping Ukraine. The failing hegemonic Soviet Reunion is on its own now.
I really respect Kira Rudik. Such a tragic waste of so many young lives and for what?
Poor kira i can see the strain in her face of this terrible invasion of her country
141k Russian KIA x2 wounded, more than 1k Russian KIA on average per day.
Born in Russia, died in Ukraine.
An outstanding representative.
America needs to improve the history classes in high school. We are lacking! Educated in Canada Slava Ukrainian.
Thank you for interviewing Kira. Her message is very important. Let us continue to help Ukraine beat these terrorist russians.
Success on the battlefield will ensure Ukraine's continued support.
Its such a sad situation...
Regarding the United Nations, the question you might want to pose to them is whether they want to follow in the footsteps of the League of Nations and end up just as discredited as it was. Ask them if they can read the writing on the wall or do they need a prophet to interpret it for them!
Considering that the UN Human Rights Commission has included countries which are severe violators of human rights how much credibility can it have?
Love the way the headline picture shows Putin looking angry or insane.Press.always used to select photos of union leaders with a similar look.
An extremely-skilled and effective leader of and proponent for Ukraine.
Ukraine pilots have been getting trained with F16’s since 2014 when Russia 1st invaded Russia!! Ukraine has been getting trained on modern weapons systems and are showing how well they learn to use them to be very effective to eliminate the enemy period !! Much more to come for they have a systematic to fighting this war and it’s working in every defensive and offensive side !!! Amen !!
Kira Rudik is a soldier of Ukrain
Salva Ukraine 💙💛
What a wonderful Lady !
Beautiful and intelligent:
How often do you find both in one package?
Because of sanctions, Russia has to tighten its belt, and not having to feed, clothe and house prisoners is a big relief
I am 100% support Ukrainians defending themselves and their country! My country of USA should be preparing for war and sending EVERYTHING Ukraine needs to protect themselves and keep supplies moving.
🇺🇦 🌏 🇺🇸
I love her thinking
Sadly the west as not done enough to support Ukraine. The only thing that Russia understands is strength. From the very start we have allowed Russia to call the game play.
What a remarkable human being this Woman is,Slava Ukraini.
22:31 Western politicians, take note.
The problem of course is that Ukraine could find itself short of Western weapons long before Russia runs out of "battlefield meat."
You also need equipment not only manpower.
@Daniel Ördén Which they have.
@Dale Crocker yes. Increasingly older and older stocks.
Petunia is so nuts . He can stop this war right now and withdraw his troops back into Russia. They do not belong there anyway
The UK has agreed to provide a long strike capability. It is the capability that's important, not the means. The problem with jets is time and resources. Missiles/rockets could be deployed more quickly, with less support. ATTACMs would be ideal, and I can't help but notice that Congress ordered 800 new ones; there haven't been any orders in 15 yrs, and the US has plenty in stock. Clearly, they are thinking about giving them at the right time - whatever that is. The likelihood is that the UK will give missiles. How many, I don't know but even a couple of dozen could be significant.
This is projection, Ukraine is far more guilty of this than Russia. This is why Ukraine has lost 350,000 troops & is on their 8th round of forced mobilisation, kidnapping their men from the streets. Ukraine refuses to withdraw from places such as Bakhmut leading to an extreme amount of casualties on the Ukrainian side, whereas Russia does withdraw to preserve their men such as Kherson city.
I am worried! Only 800 and not 2000 Russians dying daily. Give Ukraine all the weapons and training they need.
And yet Zelensky sends untrained 16 year olds to the front line.
Well let's see you head to the front line whilst you pick up your cut of the money being provided and a 70% pay rise.
No, didn't think so.
Putin troll alert
The old favourite labelling without telling me where I am wrong. I must also be a Racist, Marxist, list is endless.
Give me some facts please where I am wrong and this may change my mind but on your reply this shall not change any facts.
@brian connor Prove it with credible evidence. Bet you can't
Look, just look at sites like the Duran, colonel Douglas McGregor, New Atlas, Gonzalo Lira, Jackson Hinkle, etc.
Surely you seen the report by Seymour Hersh on Nordstream pipelines or is that lies as well..... a renowned investigative journalist.
As I said before list is endless.
Where is your factual evidence for me as I said to change my mind.
How unfortunate is that lighting? 😎
@mysteryrosebud5914 Agreed, but it's the fault of the lighting and the Ukrainian nose.
The lighting the host is using is pretty dark
“It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
― Henry Kissinger - It's too late for Ukraine.
Slava Ukraini 💙💛
Even though English is the 2nd or 3rd language of the leaders in Ukraine they speak it much better than Biden and Kamala Harris.
of course. they need it to ask for money in London and Washington.
Please keep your US shenanigans to yourself. We are not interested. Besides her English is by far better than yours and Trump belongs in jail.
As a Cabinet Minister, she would know how many Ukrainians are dying, so knows what is required and how soon.
Battlefield meat with a distinct smoky flavour.
imagine all the world just group hugs russia on the map and we all good
When they run out of men the women better be ready to step up fight for daddy p.
Not to be expected otherwise from a mobster.
Pootin did a poo-poo in Ukraine, and now he’s makin’ Russian meat-ball in Donbas.
Loaded f-16s take out the hiding Black Sea Fleet. God speed
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
stop saying "that's fascinating to hear" every time the guest finishes a sentence.
It's been said..over n over again..Time does not stand still...PLEaSE send military support for Ukraine...NoW...u all want to...so SPEED..speed..speed...stop this Ghastly Tyrant...!!!
Very nice woman💙💛
BOTH Presidents of IRAN & SERBIA have Stated that CRIMEA & DONBAS Belongs to Ukraine , Chinese Officials have Stated there is " NO FUTURE FOR RUSSIA " Everyone is abandoning the Russians . 😂😂
Putin can be trusted as far as I could throw him, if I were a quadriplegic.
Russia will run out of men 🤣💯🇺🇦
PUTIN TO THE HAGUE!
"...stop fighting by finland
Well they are
How many of them are still pro Russian?
Need 2000 plus per day would be better.
Bullet Sponges LOL
Z= Zinc coffins
all wars end in a truce
and recompense ofc - ouch
Turn your lights off!
She didn't have her cat.
Just like Stalin did in WW2.
THE WEST BETTER NO MUCK AROUND TOO LONG....IF UKRAINE LOOSES WE ALL LOOSE. THIS GOOSE WONT STOP AT UKRAINE.
missiles inc russia 2023
russia needs to feel our offensive
The Israelis should help Ukraine with the ''Iron Dome'', after all, the Americans are the ones paying for it anyway, not the Israelis.
so is Ukraine lol...
They are not Putin Nazis
I'm happy to pay taxes to help ukrainians
Bare projection. Putin doesn’t have to show his people nothing… Ukraine on the other hand🤷