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How General Motors Killed the First Modern Electric Car

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  • Danny Perrino
    Danny Perrino 3 months ago +244

    I was selected to be a test driver for the EV-1. I had it for 3 weeks, I believe. I had to keep a record of every time I drove it. The local electric company came to my house to install a charging station (which did not run through my electric meter so I did not have pay to charge it). I found it to be surprisingly quick, but I thought it had an awful ride. The tires were way too skinny. But it was one of the more interesting things I’ve done in my life. At the end of the program, GM held a huge dinner for all of us who participated. I got a little crystal thing with a pic of the car inside it, which I still have on my office shelf to this day.

    • Abu Afak
      Abu Afak 3 months ago +2

      What is the Chrystal tchotchke worth today?

    • Luna..
      Luna.. 3 months ago +3

      That’s fucking awesome.

    • Cameron Christensen
      Cameron Christensen 3 months ago +3

      The tires were too skinny...?

    • Danny Perrino
      Danny Perrino 3 months ago +8

      @Cameron Christensen YES... the thinner the tires the less resistance on the street. but as a result the car was awful on turns.

    • Cameron Christensen
      Cameron Christensen 3 months ago +1

      @Danny Perrino huh. I've never experimented with different tire sizes although I've heard that for the best gas mileage in general you would want thin tires that are also tall/high.
      That being said I can kind of picture what you're talking about. Keep in mind I've been driving the same vehicle since I had my learners permit.

  • FantomLightning
    FantomLightning 4 months ago +458

    It's amazing how GM can have a massive headstart on something and be shortsighted enough to kill it and allow others to massively surpass them.

    • Michael Copeland
      Michael Copeland 4 months ago +39

      The dealerships service departments would be rendered useless. Major profits would be lost. Watch the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car". They interview a mechanic from a dealer that serviced those cars. They had dedicated techs for the EV-1 fleet. The mechanic said all they ever did for the EV-1 was check tire pressure and clean the windsheild. The dude had been servicing cars for over a decade. He never went home with dirty hands after they assigned him to the EV-1.

    • FantomLightning
      FantomLightning 4 months ago +28

      @Michael Copeland I'm well aware and have watched the documentary. But again I'm shocked that they're so shortsighted. They could've been leaders in the market. It would've been "Elon Musk who? That guy from Paypal?"

    • Nova
      Nova 4 months ago +18

      GM could have become a trillion dollar company like tesla but they blew it

    • Michael Copeland
      Michael Copeland 4 months ago +16

      @Nova Tesla is not a trillion dollar company.

    • Nova
      Nova 4 months ago +14

      ​@Michael Copeland Not anymore, but it was. It is still highly valued at like $300 billion market cap. Compare it to any other car manufacturer...

  • Furn
    Furn 4 months ago +894

    Imagine how far the industry could've advanced if corrupt lobbyists didn't ruin everything.

    • Radosław Nowak
      Radosław Nowak 4 months ago +47

      I think nowhere... The electric car is evolution dead end... Hydrogen fuel maybe, but the electric cars are too limited by the battery capacity and recharging speed.

    • Kikillervortlex
      Kikillervortlex 4 months ago +36

      @Radosław Nowak Saying that today is just false, except for a few case (

    • James Benson
      James Benson 4 months ago +41

      @Radosław Nowak if you willfully ignore a bunch of promising battery technology, sure... but why would you?

    • James Benson
      James Benson 4 months ago +28

      The idea of "corrupt lobbyists" kinda presupposes the existence of a "pure" system that doesn't create lobbyists through its basic reward structure. Lobbyists are the normal functioning of a system built on encouraging ruthlessness and greed. An unsurprising by-product of turning life into a zero-sum game.

  • Dave Nash
    Dave Nash 4 months ago +250

    If you're ever in LA take a visit to the Petersen Collection, they have an EV-1 on display; probably the coolest exhibit in the entire museum even if it does make you feel a little sad that it was killed off

    • Joe S
      Joe S 4 months ago +34

      A few universities that received donated EV-1's had students build controllers from scratch and put the cars back on the road for demo purposes. GM lost their shit and slapped them for violating the terms of the donation by making the cars work again. Such as odd behavior I always thought.

    • Guillem Llucià Gris
      Guillem Llucià Gris 4 months ago +7

      There's also a red EV-1 at The Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI

    • Stuart Hirsch
      Stuart Hirsch 4 months ago +6

      The Smithsonian museum of history and technology in Washington DC also has one.

    • Joe S
      Joe S 4 months ago +10

      @Mr Danforth 374 It's a completely road worthy vehicle that passed all DOT requirements. It's no different than putting a different engine or changing the programming on a regular car. No, GM did not want anyone to even see these cars operate lest they stayrt asking for them. They only returned to EVs kicking and screaming because Tesla proved the demand and made a successful business case that GM chose to completely flush down the toilet because once again corporate short shortsightedness. Just like Kodak and digital photography, Xerox and the GUI and mouse, and many others. They even took an EV-1 and added a gas engine to charge the batteries. They essentially has a Prius before Toyota yet they ended up not proceeding as they did not see it as profitable. Oops. What might have been,

  • Comandante
    Comandante 4 months ago +12

    Scheduled to be shipped beginning on December of 1975, the first Brazilian electric vehicle called Itaipu E150, from the former manufacturer Gurgel, suffered from short range and complexity to manufacture. That's a piece of history that Brazil didn't write because of politicians being against that innovation too.

  • Michael Lombardo
    Michael Lombardo 4 months ago +8

    I worked for an IBEW contractor at McClellan AFB in 2001 in an old warehouse remodel. Inside were a dozen of these cars in clean driveable condition. I was told why they were there, their story. Upon realizing what GM had pulled, my stomach literally hurt for a moment. A very strange sensation, almost sickening. I totally agree with Dave Martins comment. Not something that you forget.

  • Dave Martin
    Dave Martin 4 months ago +1765

    I worked for GM Hughes Electronics (which was heavily involved in developing the Impact) during this time. I've never been more ashamed of a company I was associated with than I was with GM when they destroyed the EV-1 fleet.

    • Bertinator3000
      Bertinator3000 4 months ago +32

      Would it have even been legal for them to sell or keep the EV1s? Did they go through all the certifications necessary to be sold as production vehicles? The Chrysler Turbine Car was in a similar situation, and never did get certified, so they legally had to destroy almost all of them.

    • Semmster
      Semmster 4 months ago +62

      I was a teen when they did it. I hated them for it.

    • Millpreet k
      Millpreet k 4 months ago +69

      @Bertinator3000 I mean they leased them to the public, so they must have been road legal.

    • Loanword Eggcorn
      Loanword Eggcorn 4 months ago +63

      @Bertinator3000 If you're asking if the EV1 was approved for use on public roads as a production car, yes it was.

    • Bertinator3000
      Bertinator3000 4 months ago +10

      @Millpreet k The Chrysler turbine car was lent out to cars, though not leased. And they vehicle wasn't legal for sale. I don't know the whole process, but I know Chrysler avoided paying import duties on certain parts for that car by agreeing to crush them at the end of the test program. I don't know if GM had similar stuff going on with this one.

  • TheBlaert
    TheBlaert 4 months ago +8

    I remember reading about these in motoring magazines at the time. Those aerodynamics were incredible. Makes you wonder why todays electric vehicles are generally massive land barges. They'd be so much better if they went back to the days of lightweight and aerodynamic

  • X2yt Prime
    X2yt Prime 4 months ago +281

    It's kinda crazy to think that if Tesla didn't push EVs as hard as they did in 2000s, we still to this day wouldn't have any real change in EV market.

    • Mark Plott
      Mark Plott 4 months ago +35

      TESLA built the ROADSTER in responce to the EV1 being crushed.

    • 雅君墨客
      雅君墨客 4 months ago +11

      Founded in 1995 as a battery company, BYD produced the world's first mass-produced electric car in 2003.

    • Mr,Spook
      Mr,Spook 4 months ago +3

      Exactly and now we have superior vehicles that GM tried to kill a long time ago!

  • bonwatcher
    bonwatcher 3 months ago +6

    As recently as 2005 there were still 77 EV-1's at a Burbank, CA lot that had yet to be destroyed. I remember the local news reporting on a vigil that some of the people that drove them were holding at the lot so GM wouldn't crush them and I'm pretty sure actor Ed Begley, Jr. of ER fame was there too as the most famous owner of one those cars.

  • Dull Excitement
    Dull Excitement 4 months ago +52

    Crazy to see how many things that would have been good for the public were killed by nothing more than corporate greed. Excellent video

    • _qwe_FK_1
      _qwe_FK_1 3 months ago

      But the battery technology wasn‘t ready anyway so. Doubt it would have found success.

    • Thomas Joyce
      Thomas Joyce 2 months ago +1

      The public just don't know what's good for them, right?

  • M. G.
    M. G. 4 months ago +16

    EV1's were a common sight at a now closed GM fuel cell development facility in Honeye falls NY, some engineers used them for regular commuting, though the winters required a large draw on the batteries for the EV1 resistance heating, which reduced the range for some to forgo the heat in order to make the commute, whereupon the chargers in the parking lots recharged them for the return commute, GM withdrew them and placed them in storage for later destruction, the spare EV1 parts at the facility were also destroyed. They were a heavy (lead acid batteries) but fast little car with puncture proof tires, lots of fun to drive

  • Matt Falcon
    Matt Falcon 4 months ago +419

    This was an awesome 20-minute version of the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car" - worth a watch, as well as its sequel "Revenge of the Electric Car", both products of their time. "Who Killed" was made in middle of the dark decade of the mid-2000s in the aftermath; "Revenge" was made at the start of the 2010s' EV revival.

    • Paul Scott
      Paul Scott 4 months ago +29

      I agree. I'm in Who Killed the Electric Car, and even got a couple brief spots in this one. The director got most everything right. I helped organize the 28 day vigil to save the last 78 EV1s from being crushed as depicted in the film. We lost that battle, but as of today, we are winning the war. We're going to end the manufacture of internal combustion engines in just over a decade, possibly sooner, finding the elements for sufficient batteries is the bottle neck. But demand for EVs now outpaces supply, and I'm betting that will remain the case until our fleet is 100% electric, and our grid is ~99% renewable. We win!

    • Pürgatöry Priest
      Pürgatöry Priest 4 months ago +4

      Featuring the great activist, Ralph Nader (of Unsafe at any Speed). Ralph was right, again!

    • Novusod
      Novusod 4 months ago +8

      I remember when the EV1 was killed off despite protests from the public and have always thought since then Tesla would eventually meet the same fate. Somehow the oil companies will find a to kill off the electric car again. It is unlikely now but it seemed like a credible threat up until just a few years ago. I remember GM canceling the Chevy volt in 2019 thinking here we go again.

    • Pürgatöry Priest
      Pürgatöry Priest 4 months ago +9

      @Novusod - The Japanese, Korean & Chinese manufacturers would have pressed on, further outpacing the West in future electric technologies and developments, etc. GM could have ruled the whole space, but there was more money in Bush's war and those Humvees. The Military Industrial Complex struck again.🎯

  • Wade Hite
    Wade Hite 2 months ago +3

    If you are ever near Rolla, MO, the Missouri University of Science and Technology has an EV-1 on display in one of its buildings. As far as I know it was given to the university without the electric motor and most of the wiring, but students and faculty were able to get it working again, more or less. It still works to this day and it has even been seen on the road in very rare circumstances (usually only on St. Patrick's Day as part of the town's parade)

  • Custom Johnny Official
    Custom Johnny Official 4 months ago +11

    This was so fascinating!! As an automotive history enthusiast, I really appreciate you making this video. Thanks, Dagogo.

  • catbert7's Gaming Highlights

    I had no idea the initial EV push was to that extent, lasting over a decade and being fairly prevalent. And I didn't know there were multiple attempts at an EV transition since, nor that so many automakers produced EVs in the 90s. We had to look them up, and now my girlfriend is in retro-love with the MiEV xD
    Funny that the EV1 also had a keypad instead of a key, and amazing that it had a drag coefficient of 0.19! The upcoming Aptera supposedly has a 0.13! =0
    Thanks for making this. The little interview and review snippets were great.

  • Ianoliver Bailey
    Ianoliver Bailey 4 months ago +6

    I remember this ColdFusion episode from a few years back, and I'm so glad to see it back and updated. It's one of the most interesting stories and, my, were those little EV1s soooooo good looking!

  • Hullio GQ
    Hullio GQ 4 months ago +6

    Thank you for covering this. I was so envious whenever I would see one of these cars riding on Route 1 in Boston. I was cruising in my Nissan 240SX then. I never understood what happened to them until I read an article in 2015.

  • Mr. Jason
    Mr. Jason 4 months ago +565

    Very similar to how Kodak developed the first digital camera and killed the program because they thought this new product will eat into their existing business. See where Kodak is now.

    • MisterLumpkin
      MisterLumpkin 4 months ago +102

      Same with Xerox. I was a low-level tech for them back in the 80s and heard about their Xerox Alto GUI interface computer which they developed back in the late 70s. I mentioned it to my boss one day and told him how great it was and he just shrugged it off as a distraction for the company. Xerox could have owned the computer world. Instead, Steve Jobs took the concept of the GUI interface and ran with it. The toner-heads at Xerox just didn't have the vision to capitalize on their own innovation.

    • Sorry I
      Sorry I 4 months ago +36

      @MisterLumpkin Even iPad was inspired by Microsoft half ass attempts at Tablets

    • rmkensington
      rmkensington 4 months ago +5

      Not really applicable, GM is making some solid electric cars.

    • Winston Deleon
      Winston Deleon 4 months ago +69

      @rmkensington Yeah, now that they have no choice. They could have been 10-20 years ahead, though.

    • Sylver Syrfer
      Sylver Syrfer 4 months ago +55

      @rmkensington completely applicable - GM could have been the world leader in EV car manufacturing, instead of being dragged, kicking and screaming. Such shortsighted corporate leadership - it’s pathetic.

  • Bob808
    Bob808 4 months ago +24

    I've just noticed something about the EV1, the rear turn signals are amber/orange. That _might_ mean the car was destined for a ROW release. That suggests GM _might_ have seen International (or at least European) potential for EV1. Damn.

    • Matic
      Matic 3 months ago +1

      You’re right! That sucks :(

  • berlingoqc
    berlingoqc 4 months ago +24

    i remember watching the documentary Who killed the Electric Car with my dad growing up, being Canadian , judging Americans and bush, dreaming of electric cars, he is now delighted with is Chevrolet Bolt.

    • Vintage Home Electronic Repair
      Vintage Home Electronic Repair 4 months ago

      I saw as well years ago. (I think I rented it from Blockbuster!) 16:08 I think this scene is from that documentary.

    • Ben C
      Ben C 4 months ago +1

      If you get excited over driving a Chevy Bolt, wait until he drives a Tesla for the first time!

  • Antoinette Chanel
    Antoinette Chanel 4 months ago +5

    One day there were EV’s at my high school! It was around 1999 or 2000, but they had them parked in the quad and let us eat lunch in them. I think GM did an assembly too? My point is: I got to see the EV1 personally and always wondered why they didn’t take off right away. Didn’t realize that the Prius was something different a few years later.

  • Hilumi
    Hilumi 4 months ago +85

    It is so frustrating how corporate greed has many times set back humanity progress and hinder a better future. This people who did these acts honestly are on a similar level to committing crimes against humanity...

    • TheologyVGM
      TheologyVGM 4 months ago +9

      I agree completely with this. These people should be ashamed

    • gothnate
      gothnate 4 months ago +7

      If we didn't have religion and politics, we'd be hundreds if not thousands of years more advanced than we are now. All so some already rich people can make more money and control everything.

    • Jonathan graham
      Jonathan graham 4 months ago

      @gothnate I was going to say the same thing 👍

    • CalcProgrammer1
      CalcProgrammer1 3 months ago

      @TheologyVGM Not just ashamed, behind bars. Somehow criminally liable for taking advancements away for political and business reasons. If you develop a forward thinking product and deliberately take it off the market or patent troll to prevent it from growing, you're doing absolutely no one a favor. Why we are so invested in backing this ridiculous profit above people mentality in this country, I'll never understand.

    • Ken Masters
      Ken Masters 3 months ago +1

      @gothnate guess what happens without religion? the current woke stupidity becomes religion.

  • Peter - RadiantPipes
    Peter - RadiantPipes 4 months ago +7

    I remember these well. Living where I do in Santa Barbara / Montecito, Ca I saw several of these regularly. We were all pretty amazed by its silence. No gears either. I think I rode in one shortly but I was like 12. I remember seeing them at the lots. Range was a big issue but price for what it offered left it really for the rich as a novelty to show off or a few environmentalists. It was cool when it came out for sure.

    • M'agape Farms Homestead
      M'agape Farms Homestead 4 months ago

      There was no "price" for this vehicle as they were lease only. They were never for sale nor was it ever planned to be allowed to be for sale. The ev1-2 was a gimic to "prove" to consumers and government that they were not "profitable" and never would be. A planned failure if there ever was one!!!

  • Tim Kuipers
    Tim Kuipers 4 months ago +174

    This car still has something futuristic about it in terms of design. It kinda reminds me of those concept cars you'd see in the 50's and 60's.

    • K M
      K M 4 months ago +9

      Better looking than all current EVs

    • TheRedScourge
      TheRedScourge 4 months ago +8

      It looked like what the 90s would call futuristic, but now it looks weak and quaint.

    • Michael Jozwiak
      Michael Jozwiak 4 months ago +1

      The EV-1s kind of looked like the early 1990s Saturn SL-1s and SL-2.

    • Bob Douglass
      Bob Douglass 4 months ago +3

      @Michael Jozwiak I owned an early Saturn SL-2. It was a lot of fun! Then GM came along and ruined everything

    • Michael Jozwiak
      Michael Jozwiak 4 months ago

      @Bob Douglass Yeah. I owned a 1994 SL-1 for nearly 10 years, until it was totaled from behind.

  • SGBassplayer
    SGBassplayer 3 months ago

    There’s actually one of these at the Tellus Science Museum in Cartersville, GA. Unfortunately it’s not in what you’d consider to be well-kept condition, but with zero factory support it’s possible the museum staff prefer to interact with as little as possible, lest a need for replacement parts (which no longer exist) would arise.
    Either way it looks slightly better than a barn find. Plus it’s a GM product, so the quality of the parts used to build it were less than substantial.

  • Peter Chung
    Peter Chung 4 months ago +3

    Thanks for doing the leg work!! I know a tiny bit of each era of electric vehicles, but now I know more because of you. 😊

  • David Clawson
    David Clawson 4 months ago +6

    I think that GM gave some of them out to Universities. When I was at BYU, we had one that we modified and made into an electric dragster. It was powered by this huge array of supercapacitors. Pretty cool!

    • Julia Pigworthy
      Julia Pigworthy 4 months ago +1

      They gave a few out to universities and museums.. on condition that they were not to be driven on public roads! The threat their new EV product presented to their entrenched repair and maintenance revenues absolutely terrified them.

  • demeterial williams
    demeterial williams 4 months ago

    thank you for the information. I enjoyed the video very much. I would like to add that Francis Ford Coppola was an early adopter of the EV1 and when he was supposed to turn his car in as mandated by GM he hid his car from them and rumor has it that he still has the car to this day. Also immediately after the EV1 was cancelled the Hummer was introduced to great fan fare. As a lover of the ICE car I welcome the EV as my big engine gas powered cars will be for weekend use kind of like horses did everything and now the are for entertainment the ICE car will be the same. thanks again and have a wonderful day

  • DonziGT230
    DonziGT230 4 months ago +1

    My friend's mom had an EV-1 and at the end of her lease she tried to keep the car. She went to great lengths using the legal system, then not so legal. In the end they were able to find it and take it from her.

  • ATomRileyA
    ATomRileyA 4 months ago +1205

    Also after the oil companies bought the NiMH battery tech they prevented anyone from making bigger cells than D type as they did not want to people to use them for other EV's, after the patent expired it was said someone was working on NiMH that had much more capacity so would have been able to compete with lithium ions back in the day but because the oil companies prevented this it held things back for years.

    • Mr. Boomguy
      Mr. Boomguy 4 months ago +245

      The oil companies play as dirty as they pollute

    • Dan H
      Dan H 4 months ago +11

      @Mr. Boomguy ah ok someone who thinks efficient cars and trucking hasn’t made his life better than without.

    • DaRedaBua
      DaRedaBua 4 months ago +159

      @Dan H how on God's good earth can one even put so many words in someone's mouth

  • Gumbie007
    Gumbie007 4 months ago +8

    Almost lost me at,"....and GM, a trusted brand in the industry". I literally fell off my chair laughing 🤣😂😆

  • Ed Hrafnskald Conway
    Ed Hrafnskald Conway 4 months ago

    Great documentary. It is worth noting that the Prius came out not long after (in 2001), and went mainstream, so GM's move earned them, at max, 5 years before electric cars became widely available here in the US.

  • jarno meekes
    jarno meekes 4 months ago +3

    Imagine how many great cars we wouldn't have got if they didn't do this

  • Harry
    Harry 4 months ago

    Love your video's! To put the ev revolution into perspective it might also be interesting to take a look at our earths supplies and how this ev transition will drain those rapidly. It appears we only have 10 years of copper left. EV's will half that

  • Klaus Haunstrup Christensen

    It was actually a quite good looking car, particularly from the rear. I have always loved covered rear wheel arches. Wonder why no modern day electric cars have covered rear wheel arches? It improves the aerodynamic efficiency.

  • Alexdi
    Alexdi 4 months ago +549

    My family had the first version of this with lead-acid batteries. Maybe 30 miles of range. Cool paddle home charger and a weird digital dash that Honda borrowed later. I was a kid, it was the coolest possible show-and-tell.

    • joe mama
      joe mama 4 months ago +2

      I have the Honda with the borrowed dash haha… Love G1 Insights

    • Cappy Larou
      Cappy Larou 4 months ago +2

      got any pics of it? I used to work for Saturn and still keep in touch with some folks, they'd love to see pics of families enjoying their car. :)

    • 1greenMitsi
      1greenMitsi 4 months ago +6

      you must come from a celebrity family and or rich

    • Art Smith
      Art Smith 4 months ago +15

      @1greenMitsi You have a strange perception of a 30 mile range economy car.

    • 1greenMitsi
      1greenMitsi 4 months ago +5

      @Art Smith they leased them out in limited numbers to rich ppl and celebrities. Average joes couldnt get one

  • Nathan Seper
    Nathan Seper 4 months ago +101

    It's depressing to think we could've had electric cars much earlier.

    • Princess Solace
      Princess Solace 4 months ago +3

      Really? If the lobbyists are serious about environmental, they shud have full send the project in the logistics transport industry. Get rid of the Mack , Peterbuilt and other diesel trucks.
      We cud reduce A LOT in transportation cost , but no one did. Even Elon is full of shit

    • alphatrion100
      alphatrion100 4 months ago +13

      The battery tech wasn't good enough

    • Terry Boots
      Terry Boots 4 months ago +4

      @alphatrion100 Bingo.

    • UniverseGd
      UniverseGd 4 months ago +4

      @alphatrion100 And it still isn't enough.

    • gothnate
      gothnate 4 months ago +3

      @alphatrion100 The battery tech was good enough back in the 1800s for the average daily commute of today (40-50 miles at 20 MPH). That's all some people want, though at higher speeds. Even if we just used them part-time to run around town and used an ICE vehicle for long distances, we'd still be ahead in terms of technology and pollution today. Since EVs were supplanted in the early 1900s, battery tech kind of just stopped for a long time. We didn't see the first indication of "new" battery tech until 1985 when the first Li-ion battery was invented. Sure, we had Ni-Cad batteries in rechargeable cordless devices, but imagine if we'd have kept going 130 years ago with no real interrupts. There's really no telling where we'd be now.
      Even back in the 1830s when the first EV was invented, the electric locomotive was destroyed by railway workers because they saw it as a threat to their jobs. There is way more to this story than the video lets on.

  • Speedy Nautilus
    Speedy Nautilus 4 months ago

    I live close to an antique automobile and aeroplane museum and I've had the privilege of riding in a Detroit Electric electric carriage. They were remarkably pleasant to ride in and weren't much more than a Tesla today adjusted for inflation. Shame cities didn't go that route.

  • MrDisasterboy
    MrDisasterboy 4 months ago +3

    I remember in 1999 visiting the Epcot Centre at Disneyworld. GM had a massive display and claimed to exhibit every vehicle it and its global subsidiaries sold. Volvos and Holdens were on display. I had been following the EV1 program in the media and rushed to the counter excitedly and asked if I could see the EV1. A very embarrassed employee, not daring to make eye contact, said oh, er. every GM vehicle except the EV1 is on display... I knew then that GM had no pride in or commitment to the EV1. I was hoping they would ramp up production and sell them outright. By that time they were using better NiCad or NiMH batteries and I vaguely recall GM Engineers were hoping to go Lithium. :-(

  • christdragon
    christdragon 4 months ago +10

    If you liked this, I highly encourage everyone to watch the documentaries, "Who Killed the Electric Car" and the sequel "Revenge of the Electric Car". According to one GM executive, "We used to be a car company that occasionally lent people money. But now were a Bank, that sometimes makes cars". I don't know about you, but I'd much rather buy a car from a car company. There's a red EV1 at the Peterson Auto Museum in LA, and Ohio State University has one in poor condition. Thank you.

  • Journey with our miracle premmie

    I was the moldmaker that designed and built many of the molds for the charging units for this GM's EV1 both a wall mount and floor mount unit back in the early 90's. This was when GM had owned Hughes Aircraft and these unit's were built at one of there facility's in Southern California.

  • Vins1
    Vins1 4 months ago +305

    Congrats on 4 million! Been here since you were ColdFusTion and had 300k subs, still subscribed to you on my old as well. It's always great when you make technology history videos, I find them more worthwhile than the latest finance fraud drama. Anyways cheers!🍷

    • Steamrick
      Steamrick 4 months ago +5

      Hmm... I think I joined during the ColdFusionTV phase, at maybe half a million subs or so?

    • Johnny Doesn't Reply
      Johnny Doesn't Reply 4 months ago +6

      haha same, it was a bit of a shit name. And I cannot think of another video producer that deserves that amount of attention than Dagogo

    • TheNerd
      TheNerd 4 months ago +3

      Same here but I don't remember the Sub count. But it was low.

    • Motivation On Command
      Motivation On Command 4 months ago +1

      same here!

    • Fidelio
      Fidelio 4 months ago +5

      Who cares 😆

  • Jimmy Jango
    Jimmy Jango 4 months ago +6

    Also the patent for large format Ni-MH cells was 'purchased' to prevent anyone else for using that type of energy storage that was used in the later revision of the EV1. Then they were crushed and no-one could use the prevailing battery tech at the time for a competing product. Then GM acquired the 'Hummer' licence and the rest is history.

    • CalcProgrammer1
      CalcProgrammer1 3 months ago +1

      Patents are such bullshit. The proposition of "you can patent something so you can have market advantage" is somewhat appealing, but they are so easily abused for the exact opposite purpose - to prevent things from coming to market. Patent trolling should be massively illegal and really, competition is good. Patents hinder competition. I'd rather patents just die off.

    • Pratyush Jayachandran
      Pratyush Jayachandran 3 months ago

      @CalcProgrammer1 patents are supposed to be a protection against people ripping off your idea. Patents are public information! You can use it and file a patent for your own improvement.

  • err go
    err go 4 months ago

    That first 19C wave of E-wagons was so cool. Imagine the timeline where mainstream EVs weren't sabotaged by the petrochemical-industrial complex.

  • Park & Recharge
    Park & Recharge 4 months ago

    A fantastic video highlighting how we could have been further down the road to an electrified future!

  • Chester Paul Sgroi
    Chester Paul Sgroi 4 months ago +1

    quite a few years ago I actually once saw an EV-1 at the Peterson Automotive Museum in Los Angeles. I also remember the docent specifically mentioning that the GM had removed the battery and all related electronics from this display vehicle.😕

  • The Rote Engineer
    The Rote Engineer 4 months ago +1

    A combination of great sound track, great editing and a very soothing voice makes CF videos really quite addictive. Thank you 🙂

  • Silvy
    Silvy 4 months ago +95

    Finally. Someone big who properly takes this story and pieces it together.

    • Ste Jer
      Ste Jer 4 months ago +12

      You mean after the thousands of newspaper and magazine articles, the 2008 documentary, and the Wikipedia entry?

    • aaaidan
      aaaidan 4 months ago +7

      Feel free to also watch “Who killed the electric car”

    • per2
      per2 4 months ago +7

      this story was pieced together many times before .. years ago

    • GasMaster
      GasMaster 4 months ago

      Although, I guess as people have commented, this story has been covered before, I will at least agree with you that this may be either one of the best or may be the best presentation that I've seen on the subject of the EV one. This ColdFusion dude definitely gets it right :-)

    • Brian Smith
      Brian Smith 4 months ago

      Jay Leno has one of those early wooden EV's. You can probably still see it on Clip-Share.
      Also, I have seen the documentary on the Impact maybe 20 years ago.... 🤔
      Yep, big oil.

  • Seth B
    Seth B 4 months ago

    My day drove an EV1 a few times for work and I remember him saying it was super unreliable. I remember being impressed with how quiet it was though. Either way, I think the lesson here is that overall it was mainly corporate and government corruption that killed the electric car in the late 90's.

  • Christian Augustin
    Christian Augustin 4 months ago +3

    As other's pointed out: Same story as with Kodak (digital imaging), Xerox (graphical user interface), Intel (clinging to X86 architectures, shutting down their ARM based processor line, even though this looks not that dramatic at the moment - it is already showing, give it just 10 more years). I'm sure the list could go on and on …

  • Sai Kiran Avala
    Sai Kiran Avala 4 months ago

    That outro 🎶 is 🔥🔥🔥, glad that you're finally following your true passion which also happens to receive appreciation from people. Proud of you mate.

  • Faris Hanafiah
    Faris Hanafiah 2 months ago

    9:49 Couldn't agree more. A friend of mine moved from ICE to EV for about a year, but only to see him dumped the EV and go back to ICE because it's not viable enough for interstate journeys, especially when done frequently. He's considering of going hybrid, but full ICE is the way for now.

  • IraQNid
    IraQNid 4 months ago

    At :42 this appears to be the Peachtree Hotel with its circular shape and side mounted elevator shaft. But I don't recall there being a harbor nearby in downtown Atlanta, Georgia. Electric cars were first created in 1830. So you are correct it has been attempted before with numerous instances of "almost" taking off. There is at least one GM EV-1 that hasn't gone to the crusher. There is a Clip-Share video that I watched showing that it is parked in an undisclosed parking garage collecting dust.

  • Tyler K
    Tyler K 4 months ago +287

    Followed you for the past couple of years and I will say this you are one of the most consistent people in the tech corner of youtube thank you coldfusion

    • Joe Joe
      Joe Joe 4 months ago

      except he said "gas powered" to describe a liquid...

    • John Coppola
      John Coppola 4 months ago

      @Joe Joe technically speaking, the fuel is evaporated into the combustion chamber via carburetor, sprayed in to evaporate in the intake manifold or sprayed directly in the cylinder. It is the vapor of petrol that combusts. So technically he is right.

    • Modou Lamin Sowe
      Modou Lamin Sowe 4 months ago

      Thanks, mate, this is a good one. Typically, Dagogo style 😎

    • Coconut219
      Coconut219 4 months ago

      EU vs US thing, they call it 'Petrolium' in Europe & 'Gas' (short for GASOLINE not the state of matter) in the US. So people get hung up on when somebody calls it gas for the first time.

  • Burger Joint
    Burger Joint 4 months ago +5

    Nice rehash/refresher on the 2006 documentary 'Who Killed The Electric Car' - you missed the ending where GM explained that most customers (back then in 2003) didn't want to stump up $40k for the cars (equivalent in purchasing power to about $64,521.09 today).

  • Kai Ponte
    Kai Ponte 4 months ago +1

    I remember seeing a few EV1 cars on the roads. I loved the idea and wish I'd gotten one and held on to it.

  • Lairex Rai
    Lairex Rai 4 months ago

    I remember this car back when I was a kid in elementary school Island it came up about Alternative energy, and also showed the NASA's c-10 and geo metro that was converted to electricity.

  • Torch_k
    Torch_k 4 months ago +4

    My dad got to drive one of these one! He had a friend that leased one and let him drive it around once. I also got to see one at a museum over ten years ago.

  • Bolt
    Bolt 4 months ago +1

    In a book titled "Autonomy", about the development of autonomous car companies; a former GM executive mentioned that the EV-1 batteries post a fire risk as they aged and completed more charge cycles. He contended that this was way GM refused to sell the EV-1 and only leased it.

  • James Thompson
    James Thompson 4 months ago +99

    I have been driving an EV for over 7 years now, same car the entire time. It still works flawlessly and amazes me daily. I bought it back in 2015 in the early day's of the current EV push and got an awesome deal on it as the dealership just wanted it off the floor. It wasn't selling and was taking up space. It's a little different now! I'll likely have this one for another few years before getting another. It still runs like new and has never had a repair, just annual checkups. It's a pity it took so long to get us here. Thanks for nothing, GM!

    • Art Smith
      Art Smith 4 months ago +4

      Can you describe your driving environment: climate, elevation changes, distance daily/weekly/monthly, payload, charging volts/amps, etc.

    • Chris Haupt
      Chris Haupt 4 months ago +5

      what car is that?

    • James Thompson
      James Thompson 4 months ago +1

      @Art Smith For all that you would be better off checking the web for the specs on a few different EVs. I will say that most of my driving is short to medium range. Temps range from 105F to -20F and the terrain is relatively flat +/- several hundred feet.

    • James Thompson
      James Thompson 4 months ago +4

      @Chris Haupt 2015 Nissn Leaf

    • Art Smith
      Art Smith 4 months ago

      @James Thompson The point is you are a happy EV driver, so what is your use? Sounds like very light use. Then people needing more use can see that with normal use, the devil is in the details. Also suspect that you can't more accurately describe your situation.

  • Sean Bruno
    Sean Bruno 4 months ago +2

    Great thing about this is markets are (without government interference) eventually efficient. If everyone wants an electric car, then the auto manufacturers should make one, even if they think it will eat up their bottom line. Because, Tesla did. And these auto manufactures are totally outclassed these days as a result.

    • mejuliie
      mejuliie 4 months ago +2

      It's actually the opposite in this case - with "government interference" there would have been much more investment in electric cars by major manufacturers, as the government regulation would have presented an incentive to do so.
      Without it, you have to wait for companies like Tesla to show up and do something that could have been done years prior. A completely free, or very loosely regulated, market stifles innovation, as you can clearly see in the U.S. . Established companies, and industries will do everything to keep the status quo.

  • Nic Berry
    Nic Berry 4 months ago

    Before even finishing this video I know this will be a certified classic. I’m surprised you haven’t made a video about this years ago! ;)

  • Saint Nificent
    Saint Nificent 4 months ago

    I drove one of those in Tucson. The engineers were Really Stoked over this vehicle! Besides the instant power off the line, I was surprised that the build quality was really good compared to the other sh!t boxes GM was building at the time.

  • Mike Reagan
    Mike Reagan 3 months ago

    I had an Ev1. Drove 88,000 all electric miles and then was forced to give back my perfectly good (leased) car. They crushed it into little pieces. Sad times. Good to finally see a complete story about what happened

    • @RidleyMMA
      @RidleyMMA 3 months ago

      88,000 miles eh? In how many months?

    • Mike Reagan
      Mike Reagan 3 months ago

      @@RidleyMMA I had the first car that had ( defective ) lead acid batteries and about 70 mile range. Really taught me how to drive efficiently. Put over 30,000 on that one. they recalled the car. Then i got the chance to get the Nickel car. Drove over 55,000 with that. And yes I paid the over mileage of .50 cents per mile. I used to drive to Cal City to fly gliders from Moorpark. I would go to Lancaster and charge for 30minutes while having breakfast then charge at the airport while flying. The drive home lost 2500 ft of altitude so I would get home with 20% charge at 80mph most of the way, 118miles. I drove the hell out of it . Even going to Minden+ Reno Nevada over the 395 with snow and all!

  • blank slate
    blank slate 3 months ago

    Excellent recap of the sad story of EV1. Also watch the documenty: '' Who Killed the Electric Car?
    That goes more in depth about this twisted history.

  • Jahvelle
    Jahvelle 4 months ago +68

    I remember seeing one of these when I was a kid. My friends and I were blown away by the concept. I've always wondered what happened to those vehicles. Thanks D.A.!

    • edstar83
      edstar83 3 months ago +1

      There's a good documentary from 2006 called "Who killed the electric car?"

    • Jahvelle
      Jahvelle 3 months ago

      @edstar83 I'll check it out

  • Melanie Joules - Caramel Secrets

    great video! and this is why lecagy auto deserves everything that‘s coming to them. they went the „profits over (the health of the) people“ approach. such a shame. but at the same time…this made Tesla possible. and they are so much more than just a car company. 💯🥳😊 The future is bright! 🔋

  • trav sco
    trav sco 4 months ago

    Excellent production. I always enjoy a cold fusion video. Informative and captivating

  • dexburwell
    dexburwell 4 months ago

    I remember the EV-1…. as a gulf war veteran - figured it wouldn’t last due to blood for oil…. It would be a domino effect - less dependency on foreign oil, less palms being greased from service/repair centers (garages) due to less repair etc…. GREED.

  • pi
    pi 4 months ago

    Despite the strides made in EV technology and it's blooming popularity there are stark flaws and deficiencies in the infrastructure. I've seen and read countless tales and reviews of crowded charging stations with broken or malfunctioning units and an experience that does not inspire confidence or alleviate the dreaded range anxiety that many EV owners endure. This side of the equation still needs some work.

  • Don Soards
    Don Soards 3 months ago +1

    I first saw the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car" about 15 years ago. We rented a video back then. Thanks for getting the information out to the public again.

  • Optimism x10
    Optimism x10 4 months ago +509

    I don’t normally comment but, gosh damn man what our future could’ve been if people weren’t so greedy. A fantastic history lesson Dagogo thank you.

    • archie
      archie 4 months ago +6

      could have been? not much different than now, just 5-6 years earlier.

    • Belioyt
      Belioyt 4 months ago +17

      Wait till you hear about Rockfeller and the pharmaceutical industry

    • G T
      G T 4 months ago +22

      @Alexander Kale 'shell' entered the chat... what a silly thing to write. 500km range is plenty stop with the misinformation.

    • TN_Mateo
      TN_Mateo 4 months ago +2

      Dagogo is my favorite teacher in school that I never had 😢

    • AriesT
      AriesT 4 months ago +17

      @Alexander Kale All you just said is wrong. Model 3 reaches 500 kilometers in regular commute use, +300 on german Autobahn. Some affordable EVs, with +100 miles of real world range, are almost the price of their petrol siblings already. Gasoline needs to be processed with HUGE amounts of pollution, unlike solar power from our roof. Speaking of... What's difficult about charging your car in your garage? Stop spreading false information and right wing propaganda.

  • JoeCensored
    JoeCensored 4 months ago +1

    I wanted one of these when new. They were available for lease in my area, but I didn't get one because they weren't actually for sale.

  • flibbertygibbet
    flibbertygibbet 4 months ago

    There's still an EV-1 in the Smithsonian. I know, that particular EV-1 belonged to my husbands. We knew because he owned the EV-1 with the VIN 660 and that's the VIN of the EV-1 in the Smithsonian. One of his buddies who also owned one of the cars called him to tell him when he saw it all those years ago. Sure enough there was Phil's car.
    We dated in that EV-1. When we went to see it at the Smithsonian someone said it was cool his car was in the Museum and Phil said it should be in his garage. Newer EVs are go farther and are more efficient but I miss that car.

  • Let’s-get Brandon
    Let’s-get Brandon 4 months ago

    Another well made documentary, always a pleasure watching.

  • Bradford Wade
    Bradford Wade Month ago

    This excellent video prompted me to check something that I had never noticed before. GM was moving to destroy EV1s at almost the exact same time that Tesla was being formed. Weird.

  • WhiteHorsePT
    WhiteHorsePT 4 months ago +2

    I wonder, as this information comes to light about GM , other car brands, oil brands and even politicians... What will be done against them? One can not even phantom the amount of damage they caused to society with their lies and greed.

  • Joy Deb
    Joy Deb 4 months ago +289

    I wonder what the GE Executives were thinking seeing the meteoric rise of Tesla. Could they have been the Tesla if they didn't scrap their EV programme?

    • MisterLumpkin
      MisterLumpkin 4 months ago +150

      If GM had kept developing and refining EV tech when they had the chance, there would be no Tesla today. But now they are playing catch-up.

    • IndyFlick
      IndyFlick 4 months ago +113

      Rick Wagner was the CEO of GM during the EV-1 years. Here’s a quote from an article I read, “Wagoner-who left GM after decades of bad decisions forced the company into bankruptcy in the financial crisis, and required a huge government bailout- told Motor Trend magazine that killing the EV1 was his worst decision”. Imagine that, Wagner feels that killing the EV-1 was a bigger mistake than driving GM into bankruptcy!

    LAURA-ANN CHARLOT 4 months ago +1

    As far as I know, all modern EV's, PHEV's, and Hybrids, use 3-phase synchronus a/c motors for the "electric" part of their drivetrain. Generating 3-phase a/c power from a high-voltage DC battery pack, requires a very sophisticated inverter/converter and powertrain control computer, not to mention a big lithium-ion battery. When the EV-1, and the first mass-produced Hybrid (the Toyota Prius) were first introduced in the late 1990's, the electronics technology and computers required to implement these designs were ground-breaking, and expensive. For the first 10 years of it's existence, in most of the US, where gasoline was under $1.50/gallon, the Prius could not actually compete with Toyota's own Corolla, Echo, and Yaris models, which all cost many thousands of dollars less than the Prius, and got nearly as good fuel economy, at least on the freeway. But now, we have at last seen gasoline prices over $6.00/ gallon, and the US is finally getting the wake-up call of ridiculously high fuel prices that European drivers have had to cope with for 50 years or more. And at the same time, the power-handling and computer technology required to produce a highly efficient and reliable high voltage inverter/converter for BEV and PHEV cars is here. GM is selling the Bolt for only a few percent more than Toyota's price for a Corolla Hybrid, and the Bolt costs significantly less to operate than the Corolla - at least in areas of the country where severe winter cold isn't an issue. Where I live, in Sacramento, California, a small BEV like the Bolt, Tesla 3, Nissan Leaf, and Toyota BZ4X, all get between 4 and 6 miles per kilowatt-hour, and if you charge at home, that's 10¢/kw-hr, ir about 2¢mile. A Corolla or Camry Hybrid getting 50mpg on $4.00/gallon gas costs 8¢/mile, which is 400% more than the energy cost to drive a small BEV. The next generation of GM BEV cars with the Ultium battery, if they can break the 350 mile range barrier, and keep the price under $35,000, are going to demolish all sales records.

  • Munkhtushig Batjargal
    Munkhtushig Batjargal 4 months ago +2

    This was a case study in one of my classes in uni. Such a tragedy, however without this car I don’t think there would have been Tesla.

    • Darell Dickey
      Darell Dickey 4 months ago

      I agree. There is direct lineage from this car to Tesla. In many ways, this became the T-zero, which became the Tesla Roadster, which became the four models we have today.

    • Aerism
      Aerism 4 months ago

      What was the conclusion? I dont believe in conspiracy. I think what happened was very logical. The world back in 1996 was not ready. Also not the suppliers nothing.

    • callawaymotorcompany
      callawaymotorcompany 4 months ago

      @AerismThe world in 1996 was ready. If you mean old auto manufacturers and oil companies, they still aren't ready and never will be, because all they can do is prioritize short term profits over everything.

    • Darell Dickey
      Darell Dickey 4 months ago

      @Aerism Fortunately you don't need to believe in conspiracy for there to be one. And conspiracy and logic don't have to be mutually exclusive concepts. In fact the best conspiracies are based on logic, IMO. When a company wishes to continue making money in the short term the easy way, then yes of course.... GM's decision to kill the EV program was totally logical. It was also unquestionably a conspiracy to do so. Many of us who were part of that whole process know some of the people who were directly involved. There's no mystery here. But conspiracy? Absolutely.

  • David Shantz
    David Shantz Month ago

    You missed a substantial EV leader. In 1992, US Electricar developed and manufactured two models of all-electric drivetrain vehicles. A 2-door performance Sportscar, and a sub-compact sedan. The company was based in Sebastopol, Northern California.

  • Marvin Turchinetz
    Marvin Turchinetz 4 months ago +1

    It is imperative that hugely successful companies have forward-thinking leaders that are true visionaries. They must not only be able to think outside of the box, but, also be willing to take chances and bet on what will be the next latest-and-greatest thing in demand on a worldwide scale. Sure, maybe battery tech was not advanced sufficiently for the EV-1 to be a huge success immediately. But GMs R&D Dept could have led the way and greatly sped up innovation in battery technology. If they had done that, I'm sure that battery technology would be a lot further along than what it is now. And, probably, GM would never have needed a government bale out.
    In the end... it was oil company product relevance and car manufacturer concerns over lost profit from internal combustion engines and automatic transmission mtce that guaranteed the death of the EV back then.
    It's so sad that the bottom line was more important than their customers, not to mention the climate crisis that was already well underway at that time. Big corporations and governments are so shortsighted when greed is behind the wheel.
    There is no Planet B, yet here we are, facing certain environmental Kaos and the ruination of our homeworld because our leaders and people in powerful positions continue to make bad decisions that affect us all in a negative way.

  • Arjun Menaria
    Arjun Menaria 4 months ago +1

    Watching your videos since 9 years. Great content. Would love it more if video quality was bumped to 2k or 4k resolution. :)

  • Kurt Yarish
    Kurt Yarish 4 months ago +38

    I became fascinated with the story of the EV-1 after seeing one in-person in an auto museum in Cleveland, OH several years back. GM donated a few EV-1's to museums across the nation around the time the vehicles were recalled, but with the stipulation that they were first internally stripped of components and unable to move on their own power, let alone legally drive on the road. Several of these exist still as virtual husks for the sake of historical artifacts. At least one EV-1 was donated to a university for students to use as a study aid and testbed, and was allowed limited functionality and could move on it's own power. But again, stripped components rendered it incapable of legally driving on roads. You can find old footage of this vehicle on Clip-Share if you look for it. I don't know if that vehicle still exists. I've also seen footage of an independent group of amateurs who were attempting to rebuild a functional EV-1 drivetrain from parts that survived scrapyards, last I saw I believe they were at least partially successful. Again, that footage was old, and can be found on Clip-Share. Finally, I've seen footage of one complete EV-1 and it's associated home charging system in a storage garage supposedly dated to sometime post-recall, suggesting at least one person managed to sequester one away from GM for a time. I get the fuzzy feeling it was rediscovered as part of a storage auction, but I'm probably wrong about that. Footage of that might be harder to find, but it's out there.

    • Gavin Sauer
      Gavin Sauer 4 months ago +8

      Yes, my university has a working EV-1 and I walk by it daily! My University, Missouri University of Science and Technology, has one on display in the Electrical Engineering department. It was, like you said, stripped of critical components when donated but the motor and drivetrain were intact. However, the critical motor controller was removed. Luckily, we had the knowledge to build a new one so a bunch of professors and students did just that and got it driving again. It is now covered in dust and has flat tires but it is still one of the few, if any, that was actually able to be driven again after they were stripped and donated.

    • Kurt Yarish
      Kurt Yarish 4 months ago +4

      @Gavin Sauer I'm happy to hear that, not only does that particular vehicle still exist, but that it was made properly functional once again! I'm sure recreating that engine controller was just for the sake of being a fun teaching aid, but I like to imagine those involved did it mostly to spite GM. Would be cool if someone on campus could make a video or something documenting its current state. It would be by far the most recent demonstration of a working example in the wild. Thanks for keeping us informed on its whereabouts!

    • Mr Danforth 374
      Mr Danforth 374 4 months ago +1

      Any test prototype creates huge legal liabilities for the manufacturer if they allow it on the road. If you want a GM electric car just buy a Volt or a Bolt. Both are way better than anything they had in 1996. Unfortunately they went out of production as the public wouldn't buy them.

  • Ghost Fhoenix
    Ghost Fhoenix 4 months ago +1

    GM spent huge amounts of money for it, so they rolled it out hoping their competitors will release their own model or at least sink money into E tech research. Then they killed it since its really not sustainable and enticing at that time.

  • Scoopta
    Scoopta 2 months ago

    I already knew this story but I wanted to see you tell it because you tell stories well...and every time I hear this story I get so FREAKING MAD that they absolutely WOULD NOT take money for the cars...like WTF

  • Tech Time With Eric
    Tech Time With Eric 4 months ago +2

    Imagine where we would be if they kept developing back in the early 1900s too.

  • jwd0808
    jwd0808 4 months ago +1

    The biggest problem was that the battery technology wasn't ready. Lead acid batteries are bulky, and lose efficiency pretty quickly after only a few recharges. Also, the range was pretty horrible as well as the charge times.

  • Fly Veto
    Fly Veto 4 months ago

    I love how classy the look of those early electric carriages.

  • Shahab Besharatlou
    Shahab Besharatlou 4 months ago +32

    The amount of corruption in this country is absurd. It’s disgusting the amount of executives that are so concerned about their own pockets that they will do anything to prevent progress.

    • Ste Jer
      Ste Jer 4 months ago +1

      People who think that having morals is bad for them.

    • Gerald La Fleur
      Gerald La Fleur 4 months ago +3

      They were thinking about corporate profits. They are a publicly traded company. The technology in battery was not ready and the market was too small. They could not recoup the cost, that is why they leased them.

    • Ralph Millais
      Ralph Millais 4 months ago

      Capitalism does not prevent progress, capitalism has been the biggest force for progress in all of humankind.

    • Shahab Besharatlou
      Shahab Besharatlou 3 months ago

      @Ralph Millais that is very true, but in my opinion, there’s a fine line between capitalism and corporate greed. I understand that there are investors and employees, etc that need to be happy but that doesn’t mean stop progres

  • Nigel Clarke
    Nigel Clarke 3 months ago

    My grandfather drove an electric coal delivery truck in the 60s. They also had electric milk delivery trucks because they were quiet.

  • Zone47
    Zone47 4 months ago

    If battery tech gets to the point of being able to charge in 5-10 minutes or so and the range can take you at least 300 miles per charge, AND there is a standardized system and procedure adopted to charge all makes and models, I'm all for it! Otherwise we'll have such a traffic jam at any or all charging stations. Think of driving across the desert southwest and not finding any charging stations... you can barely find a gas station.

  • WS
    WS 4 months ago

    Geez you know how to make a good video! And I’m loving that you’re Aussie as well 😊

  • Jeff Alvich
    Jeff Alvich 4 months ago +2

    Although GM took much of the PR credit for it (GM Hughes SunRacer), Hughes brought in AeroVironment (one fo the best UAV companies in the world for an assist with the overall design and Hughes providing the tech)...another company (cant remember) designed and built the "Brushless AC Motors and the Regen Braking System" for the car.... to achieve the best aerodynamics (it had a drag coefficient of .12) and driver comfort/positioning the driver was blind on the sides and behind...which Hughes used optic systems from HAC Electro Optic Data Systems Group to give him full 360 degree view. They had to state a value on the car at the time....IIRR we all laughed because with the use of scrapped parts, it was really impossible but they called it $1 million.

  • Ashadow
    Ashadow 4 months ago +121

    Kinda reminds me of the story about how Kodak invented the first digital camera - but refused to put it on the market, because they feared it would threaten their profits from the sale of film rolls. Shame that in this case it resulted in several unnecessary decades of pollution, rather than just photos not becoming digital for a while longer.

    • kg01
      kg01 4 months ago +4

      I'm still making my real photos on film. Much better.

    • Dipsoid
      Dipsoid 4 months ago +22

      That story is actually a misnomer. Kodak went pretty hard on digital cameras and even produced many of the CCDs in early digital cameras. They were the number 1 digital camera manufacturer for quite a few years. The problem was that their finances weren't diversified and the drop in demand of film strapped them with gigantic losses that digital camera and sensor sales couldn't make up for. Plus, they couldn't compete with Japanese manufacturers on cost. This coupled with the strong competition from other image sensor manufacturers and the improvement of CMOS sensors which Kodak didn't have a hand in killed them.

    • Ted Smart
      Ted Smart 4 months ago +2

      @Dipsoid thank you - i hate having to retell this story.

    • F.ELEVEN
      F.ELEVEN 4 months ago +3

      That’s what used to distinguish Apple from other companies. Releasing the iPhone was the eminent death of the iPod, and they did it. But now they’re acting like Kodak, limiting the iPad potential to protect MacBook sales, cowardly & shameful.

    • ItsaB3AR
      ItsaB3AR 4 months ago +2

      Difference is though, people will still stay brand loyal to GM despite them fucking over the health and well being of everyone in the country.

  • crlaw75
    crlaw75 4 months ago

    I've read that one of the executives said, "this makes me look bad" and made more profits on the bigger, gas guzzling vehicles.

  • Dankus Memus
    Dankus Memus 4 months ago +1

    Some of the later EV1's also had NIMH batteries, not just lead acid.

  • D S
    D S 4 months ago +2

    If only they kept the program running longer then they would have realized that they could make a killing every few years selling and installing replacement batteries. EV batteries aren't easy to replace so most people would have brought them back to the dealer for replacement. They could have easily engineered them to need replacement every 2 or 3 years.

    • hei law
      hei law 4 months ago

      Just like our cell phones. It is programmed to die in 3-5 years. It's just a matter of time until EV manufacturers start to cut corners to make the car batteries less reliable, cut cost and make a huge profit out of it.

  • Corey McGuire
    Corey McGuire 4 months ago +1

    I have one of the RAV4 EV's from the 90s. The EV-95 cells are BEASTS and they still work