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Detergent packs are kinda wishy-washy (Dishwashers Explained)
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- Published on Dec 19, 2020 veröffentlicht
- Ever wonder how dishwashers work? Are you ever bummed by the performance of yours? Well, this video can answer your question and possibly provide you with a solution!
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There's an important thing that was missed in this video! The instructions from Cascade are telling you to use way too much detergent. I've made a follow-up video about detergent dosing and also addressed a lot of your concerns in it. clip-share.net/video/Ll6-eGDpimU/video.html
If packs were sold with, maybe, tear-off baby packs meant to be thrown in along with the main wash, I'd be elated. And, to be clear, it's not like I think packs, tabs, whatever don't work - I'm sure plenty of you have fine experiences with them. They just... well as I said they don't make sense to me. Not for a dishwasher, anyway!
You on some sort of “Star Trek”?
I love your videos and you always make me laugh.
...and I share your ire with these pods, we switched back to regular liquid soap after some experiments of our own.
Is there any way I can contact you in a more professional way? I did a project on WED for my final project this semester and found some information on the Capital Subway in my research.
(I also referenced your haunted mansion video in my paper, so your work is greatly appreciated!)
I was going to suggest mini packs either in a separate section of the container or as you suggested tear-offs
I use the packs but I have never just tossed them in the main body of the dishwasher. I have always put them in the detergent area of the dishwasher. I have not been told otherwise and I never really stopped to look at the instructions and these packs work great unless they have sat too many years as I do have a habit of only buying them on sale.
As someone that didn’t grow up with a dishwasher this was very informative.
Can we get some _Potassium_ out of those Dishwashing Packets? Wait, wrong channel! - j q t -
Right? I have one but never use it because it never worked to my satisfaction. But I just tried this method and it worked great!
I watched the potassium video then directly this video and find you. Love the content from both of ya
Hey it's Cody'sLab I think I'll watch some of his videos now, cheers.
But would you do it on Mars?
What I can't believe is the pod manufacturers haven't got onto this and developed pre wash pods which are 1/4 the size, another consumer product right there!
they know they just dont care
and they could even allow consumers to remain lazy by not even tearing them apart, some models just place the small side in the pre-wash side, other models without a prewash slot just leave it dangling out LOL
still using cascade powder . . . i can find it at only one out of FIVE walmarts around here
just instruct people to use two pods
Get yourself a man who can lift a dish washer onto a desk with no issues
It's mostly an empty box m8
get yourself a man who can do that with a washing machine
@GodKing804 you must be real fun at parties
@egg man its easy when the party is about dish washers
Dishwashers weigh like 30 pounds
This video actually changed my life. I never realized that I had been snookered by the pretty colors and fancy bullshit and actually believed packs were somehow better than normal detergent, then got mad that my dishwasher wasn't working properly. It never occurred to me to *read the instructions.* a 3 dollar box of kroger brand powder works better than anything I've ever used.
Apparently you could just divide the pack into a smaller portion for the pre wash and it should work similarly well.
That's good, and pretty embarrassing. You can hopefully imagine lots of your life is probably like this and you can better the aspects in many areas.
@Un1234l Packs cost more money, there is no benefit to them. Get a bottle squeeze it into the wash, spray it all over the door, close the shit and go
@g g
Point was OP already bought them. So now have to find best way to put them to use.
What if you don't live near a Kroger but a Publix instead?
Because of your video, we checked our GE dishwasher - and yep - there's a depression in the dispenser lid for the pre-wash cycle. And - oh, yeah - filters. Hadn't touched the filters since the washer was installed 7-1/2 years ago. It was a special date night to clean-out the filters and their surroundings of "black, greasy goop. Fun times was had by all!
First time I hear someone that never cleaned filters. I do this each month, and with chlorine !
Did you never have health problems because of this ? Must be a bacteria paradise 😅
@Enlil W-L My Lynda just cleaned the filters after one month - and they were slimy! She said we'll be going to every two weeks. OBTW - she's a microbiologist - so you can imagine how grossed-out she was with the filter bacteria resort 😂
@Mel Coleman Oh god she's a microbiologist ! I cannot imagine her reaction 😅
Good that you decided to clean them from now, it is important.
check the filter for your laundry machine too.. and underneath the detergent dispenser. I found mold there.
@Grilled Flatbread Thanks for comment ... Our Samsung front loader has a pre-pump filter in the lower right corner - with a decal on the access door that says "Please check me once a month"
This guy would make an awesome school teacher. Every kid would be guaranteed to pay attention. He explains everything precisely and eloquently.
And with a delightful touch of humor that kept me focused on the screen all the way through!
😂😂😂😂
We live in a world where a guy on Clip-Share talking for half an hour about dishwashers is more entertaining than everything on television.
Yes!
With all the trash on TV these days, you ain't lying.
It's a sad state of affairs!
We live in a society*
That’s very clearly untrue, no disrespect to TC, but we’re living in a golden age of TV.
This was a really fantastic video. I’m a stay-at-home-dad and did similar research on washing machines so I could figure out if I was using too much laundry detergent. (Spoiler alert: everyone does.) I’ve bee get ting frustrated with all the standing water, smells, and unclean dishes. I finally decided to do something about it and found your video. I also really appreciated the thoroughness and nuance. Now off to watch part 2!
2 years since switching back to liquid detergent because of this video and its been so much better. and cheaper
5:55 "The jets are pointed in all sorts of different directions, a definitely deliberate design decision, distributing a deluge of detritus decongestant directly at dirty dishes"
Fucking beautiful lol
Amen!
Alliteration Heaven!
I'm from Europe so our dishwashers have special compartments for dishwasher salt and for sparkling fluid, but I can't stress how right you are. our dishwashers heat up their water pretty early on yet not immediately, this is because food residue like uncooked eggs actually Start cooking, become clumpy and introduce a new layer of smell that's hard to get rid of. Also, for any dishwasher users that don't have a pre-wash compartment, I reccomend hanging in a dishwasher deodorant cup/baggie/lemon. most of them are advertised as "smell neutralizes" but they actually contain small amounts of detergent with acid properties, and that can be enough. it's a small hardplastic hanger with liquid in it or a place to pop in a lemon slice, you can put powdered dishwasher detergent into those as well.
Thank you for the great video, I love seeing people talk about how well adjusted dishwashers are and about how they help you more than handwashing could ever. Have a fine day!
The pre wash compartment is manly for reminding the user to fill in some powder and helps getting the amount right. Just put exra some powder in the door and forget about the deodorant which adds extra cost, chemicals and plastic waste. If your dishwasher is smelly, just use the hottest washing program at least once a week. Problem solved.
@tubybubi our dishwasher (before it died) only had one compartment for the tablet and no prewash. The new one is coming in a few weeks so will definitely be reading the instructions manual haha
I don’t have a smell in my Bosch dishwasher. Never had . I always wondered why others do. My water neither hard nor soft. I have used pre rinse fluid, dishwasher gel/ powder and salt ( with dial turned to recommended for my region … you can get info from water company) but reality is that my dishes are the same quality of clean with a pod as they are with all the other products I was sold so I now just use one product for last 10 years.
If you live in a hard water area though you may benefit from separate products.
Also purchase a silicone scraper and scrape plates into kitchen bin 😮😮😮 doesn’t everyone do that? Or is it just me? 😂lol
We’ve been putting two dishwasher tabs (one in the compartment, and one in the cutlery rack) this whole time, not realizing why it worked so much better this way. Thanks for saving us future money!
Me too I tried it once and saw the difference 😂😂 I understand now
I told my wife this, she now says, "Okay, go tell that guy his stupid thing worked." You have fixed our issues. Thanks.
lol
Now maybe tell your wife (or you, if you're the culprit) to stop letting your dirty dishes sit around drying out and then you won't need an extra wash cycle to clean your dishes.
@SVURulez lol thats basicly admitting you are wrong , surely you dont do dishes every day with a dishwasher (now I do but I wash by hand)
The issue was the wife all along.
@Dr. Skillz usually it is, but use tact while telling her
My journey of learning about dishwashers and my results after watching the video:
I grew up in a household with a dishwasher but I was never really taught about descaling and limescale prevention, so it took me few years to realize I need to 1. put the special salt in the salt basket (especially because we have very hard water where I live) 2. run a cleaning/descaling cycle every 6 months and 3. use rinse aid to have dishes without a film of dust at the end. We also had problems with pods not cleaning well every time, e.g. some food residue remaining on bigger pans or coffee stains not coming off with the first wash. I used to use Somat pods for 0.15-0.22 Euro per wash. Now after watching the video and trying some store brands, I'm buying a cheaper option of pods - 0.07 Euro per pod - and adding a little bit of powder detergent for the prewash. I'm now satisfied every time because the dishes are cleaner then ever, for a much cheaper price
Salt?
Random addition: I used to work in a Petrochemical lab and our Miele lab glassware washer was just a fancy dishwasher. It could clean crude oil off glass with one dishwasher tablet/ pack.
You’ve convinced me to use “pre-wash”, use cheap powder detergent and, until I use up my remaining Finish super-duper platinum, kryptonite, Batman utility belt, packs, I cut the blue colored section of the pack open and squeeze it out onto the pre-wash tray, with the rest of the stuff inside the door.
Did I get it about right?
👍🏻 and subscribed!
read things, it'll save you in a lot of aspects of life.
I myself just toss in two; one for main and one for pain (1st wash)
My man, you not only effortlessly lifted a dishwasher onto the table, but you basically gave some great tips to someone who hates dealing with dishes! I never thought about making water hot before turning on the dishwasher. Also, I still use packs, but I drown it in liquid detergent in pre and main wash so I might be overdoing it a bit lol
Same with clothes washer..
Even a shower is heated faster by turning on a nearby faucet usually.
Great job! I can't believe I just watched a half hour long video about the point of the prewash detergent cup. My attention span is typically 5 minutes. You are good at what you do, man.
What's the TL;DR
@Jon It doesn't need one. You'll read.
I have never had such a strong urge to buy powder dishwasher detergent
I did right after watching this.
I have a powdered pod i can cut in half
Biden DidntWin I didn't know about running the hot water before starting the dishwasher until recently. Sometimes I forget anyways. My dishwasher cleans everything perfectly either way. Been using powdered detergent my whole life.
Also, according to my dishwasher manual, you don't need as much detergent if you live in an area with soft water. I live in an area with very soft water, so I started filling the pre-wash/main-wash cups 1/3rd full or less. Still cleans dishes perfectly.
Me too - and I don't even have a dishwasher.
2 of my favorite Clip-Sharers watched and commented to this video.😀 You and Codyslab.
You seriously might have just changed my life when it comes to dishwashers... When I was growing up my mom's famous saying was " It's not a garbage disposal, You have to rinse the dishes before you put them in"... Based off what you've explained and I've seen, that's exactly what they are, A big fat garbage disposal that cleans your dishes. I am shook. I must spend 30 minutes scrubbing and rinsing all the dishes before I stick them into the dishwasher I've been wasting my time energy, and water and now I get to do exactly what you get to do, stick them in dirty, I can't wait to see how it works!!!!
Something I’d like to see come to market is a dishwasher that automatically dispenses detergent. It can use turbidity sensors to know if more detergent needs to be added or if the timing needs to be adjusted based on how dirty the water is getting
I really like these videos, he explains everything so thoroughly that even a dense rock brain like mine can absorb it. It's like Einstein said...the best teacher can teach nuclear physics to a 4 year old and the 4 year old would get it. Alec is pretty cool!
Loved the commercial kitchen joke as a fast food cook I honestly can't fathom why a 3 compartment sink pretty much doesn't exist in homes it's just so much better
This video (and its sequel) have 100% changed my experience with my dishwasher. I just bought a house so am taking a greater/ more detailed interest in these sorts of things. The amount of detergent, the fact that rinse aid exists and WHERE to put everything. Turns out, I was rushing through things and didn't notice that the pre-wash was on the outside of the compartment AND that the rinse aid WASN'T the pre wash, so I had to clean that out with a squirt bottle + compressed air.
I was dumb, but now I'm less dumb. Thanks!
Congrats, you made a 30-minute video about dishwashers that was actually worth watching!
You mean *worth washing!
Right?
I couldn't finish it. I envy you if you have the time, patience and interest to sit through that.
@Blackridge Use the gear icon and change the speed to x1.2 to x2 -- I watched this one at x2
@Blackridge I did, and it was more than worth it.
A) My wife totally needs to see this: scrubs the dishes before they go in the dw, tosses a pack directly into the tub, and wonders why the dishes still aren't clean.
B) *Part* of the "dishes must be scrubbed clear before entering the dishwasher" may come from the commercial kitchen side. Those washers are *basically* not designed to do any scrubbing (that's what the sprayguy (me for 5 years!) is for). The washer is only designed to break down any remaining films and sanitize the dishes in very quick order.
My big project this week was deep-cleaning the dishwasher, so I could follow the steps in this video. Last night's dinner pans without any pre-cleaning went into the dishwasher as we went to bed. This morning, BAM! EVERYTHING'S CLEAN! I feel like this video changed my life.
I actually really enjoyed this. I thought I'd be annoyed listening to someone explain a dishwasher etc. But your inflection, intrigue, and even personal passionate opinion made this so enjoyable! Definitely going to give it a try.
Also, I got here because of a group of moms on Facebook. I got the feeling your intended audience may be for a professor or a class, bit its looking to be moms/wives at least from what I've seen anyway :)
I'm so glad I've been buying detergent boxes- I considered microplastics [& now this] with the pods. Love when they choose to create solutions for problems they create :)
This video helped me realize something: My house’s dishwasher soap dispenser is at the bottom of the door blocked by the dish rack. It doesn’t open far enough to let a soap pod fall out! The pod doesn’t dissolve all the way so the rinse cycle leaves soap film over everything. Maybe it’s older than I think and was designed before the popularity of pods, intended instead for regular detergent granules 🤔
Try regular powder (or liquid _dishwasher_ detergent) in there, along with the separate prewash dose. Good luck.
Thanks! This video is excellent and informative. I'd really love to see manufacturers start making glass front dishwashers
Its incredible how perfect this channel is for me, like this is exactly what i love. Just learning about random shit. And its so well made
dishwasher story time: in my first shared flat (which I left after 8 horrible months) we had a small dishwasher (one of those that are mostly found in one-person-households) for 3 people. We didn't use it, because my flatmates though that it started smelling when "only" 3 people use it. They insisted that if I wanted to use it, I had to prewash _everything_ in the sink. I even got text messages while at work complaining that I hadn't prewashed my butter knife! Now that I live in my own flat with my own dishwasher (a regular big one btw), I'm pretty sure that it was just a case of filters that hadn't been cleaned for ages.
Years later I am still working through a massive Costco package of detergent packs. But I definitely found my dishwasher works better when I break a bit of it up on the inside of the door and put the rest in the detergent compartment.
If someone (or a youngling) accidently adds regular dish washing detergent and you get that foaming mess, just add a tablespoon of either fabric softener or hair conditioner without the heated cycle or heated drying cycle, the water will eliminate the bubbles quickly. (I actually watched the fire company do this in an outdoor fountain that pranksters put dish soap in) Worked perfectly.
Vinegar would probably work, too. Also, I learned at quite a young age that if you pee in your bubble bath, the bubbles start going away rapidly. However, I'm not recommending that as an option.
Thank you for settling an argument with my wife about pre-rinsing the dishes! Now I can sleep on the couch in peace.
You're dishwasher is mean for making you sleep on the couch. How long have you been married to her. ?
continue to scrape the food off the dishes. The dishwasher companies plan failures into the washers so they can sell more dishwashers.
Word.
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Which side were you on? Team "Don't pre-rinse, and just use the extra scoop"?
Best show ever! I'm cancelling my Netflix account, adding some detergent to my rinse cycle, switching to powder. Also loved you as badger in Breaking Bad! Thanks dude!
Something weird about the dishwasher in my old apartment is that is included a “hot start” option, despite being VERY cheap. Cheap, as in it didn’t have upper spinners and was operated by a dial
I can't believe I just spent 30min watching a video on dishwasher functions. At the same time, its the most entertaining video I've watched all day. Very well done sir.
tl;dr from both this and the followup:
- Don't worry about rinsing dishes before putting it into the dishwasher
- Heat sink water before turning on Dish Washer
- Use the 'Normal Setting' on your dishwasher to make sure the pre-wash happens
- Use powder Detergent (DON'T use dish soap, pods, or gels)
- Place in both the main wash, and pre-wash cups
- Don't use TOO much - the amount you need correlates with how hard your water is. If you have a powdery residue or film on dishes, you may be using too much. Try filling it halfway
- Don't sweat whether or not it has phosphates
- Get rinse-aid, it can not be included in detergent
- Consider getting a dishwasher cleaning product, like Glisten Dishwasher cleaner
Sometimes I watch videos that review every spongebob episode, sometimes I watch videos about criminal psychology, but this guy makes awesome long-form videos that are incredibly informative and I now find myself booting myself into any conversation to talk about how everybody using pods is a buffoon. By the way, I am fun at parties.
Love this dude. He simultaneously seems like he's in his 20's and 70's. He does techno incredulity better than almost everyone.
Spot on! He also makes me laugh. He seems to see both sides of any case. Rather than just starting opinion as fact. Very fair.
I wondered what the prewash was for! I never owned a "fancy" dishwasher before usually it was me. So I never understood it since I use packs. Now I get it, just buy a regular detergent to use for pre-rinse. The cost is small in the long run since your using such a small amount.
Yeah, but for the main cycle, powder is also more cost saving. My machine needs 18 grams in total, 15 for main and 3 for pre-rinse. The packs I used weigh 24-25ish grams. Thats 25% more - 25% wasted. Plus packs cost more per weight...
Love your videos! One thing ive always been interested in knowing the answer to is - detergent packs, liquid, gel & powder for washing machines - whats their performance differences and which is better?
Now I finally know why my grandma always sprinkles some detergent over the door before closing it. Neat.
My wife and I haven't had a dishwater for nearly two decades now but, I have recently purchased an LG model with some bells and whistles, so I decided to watch a few videos to acquaint myself with it, and I'm glad I did it. This was an eye-opening explanation, for sure. :)
I tried adding pre-wash detergent to my dishwasher after watching this video and I have to say it helped a lot! Way fewer dishes coming out dirty. (I've always used powder but my dishwasher only has a single compartment that opens during the main wash. So I just pour a bit in the door for the pre-wash).
Alright I wasn’t scared of Technology Connections until he lifted a whole dish washer without struggle. I now fear this man
I guess you've never in your life attempted lifting one? Because they certainly aren't heavy. Why would they be? There aren't any heavy materials going into its construction.
@Seth Kauffman maybe in USA, in Aus most are metal body and bloody heavy also don't have blankets are are relatively noisy (esp my shitty delonghi). I can't say I've ever used prewash, most of the time it all comes out clean anyway, but I may just try it next time
It is plastic tub model so light compared to metal tub models.
Sire that is a dishwasher
Also yes, they are also extremely heavy in the EU and UK
@Seth Kauffman I mean I was just trying to make a joke, but you’re not wrong I don’t routinely lift washing machines nor have I ever as I’m not in the business of renovation.
I think the fridge should guest co star in all videos this would boost user interactions significantly
I have a slightly higher-end Kitchen Aid than your new one. So superior to the ones we have had in the past as far as quietness. The last 3 have all been excellent at cleaning, and each has been an step better in noise control. I bought some pods because they seemed more convenient and less messy, but I'll be going back to the cheaper powder, and wish I could get it in a more environmentally friendly container . Thanks!
Wouldn’t you just hand-wash if you’re concerned about an environmentally friendly packaging lmao
@Josh Lancaster You use far less water in a dishwasher than doing an equal full load by hand. The water recirculates.
This was a very persuasive argument for using the prewash function.
Something also worth checking is if the seal on your dishwasher's detergent dispenser is functional. I would rather not use packs, but I've gravitated towards them recently because my dishwasher is an ultra-cheap model (landlord provided) that immediately oozes out any gel you put in. I figure the packs are a little more likely to not get swept away in the pre-wash, and they're at least not running down the door as soon as I close it.
You can check this with a gel by filling it up, closing the doors, and then not running the dishwasher immediately. Check back in a few minutes to see if you have a mass goo escape on your hands. If so, there's no way that gel is making it all the way to the main wash
Neat! Ever since we've had a dishwasher with a bad release-latch we've never trusted them; even after moving apartments a number of times from that place. I've always tossed the thing in and it worked perfectly 9/10 times. But if it can get 10/10 it's worth trying out.
Maybe I'll even go for the ultra-premium experience and get pre-wash.
Very interesting video. Finally after a couple years without a dishwasher we got ourselves a Miele, and in the instructions they also state that it is recommend to place a bit of detergent (powder) on the door when you do a wash cycle with a pre-wash. However, the Eco Mode doesn't do a pre-wash and still has excellent results in just over three hours.
FYI, eco mode is usually not good to use because the water temperate is so low that fat can get stuck in the pipes of your sink.
@rcmanization detergent does quite a good job at dissolving fat, plus the temperature is at 51°C, which should work just fine. Also I doubt there's a problematic amount of fat, unless you fried something in your steel pan and put it in without cleaning it up with a bit of kitchen paper. I washed dishes by hand with moderately warm water at best, and we didn't have issues as well.
The low amount of water can be an issue however, as not all food remains get flushed off properly and can get stuck in the water pocket, and accumulate fat if you don't use a hygienic cycle regularly.
@rcmanization It works well with light soiled crockery. But yes with pans or greasy things, better to use a higher temperature.
You’re a good host, I just watched a 32 minute video on dishwashers without getting bored.
Yeah I skipped along
Same! I never watch videos this long but he had me the entire time.
Ditto 😂 I was actually laughing out loud for several parts!!
@Philip Scoggins how dare you
Yooooo, that's similar to what I just posted and I didn't even see your comment beforehand. I was super impressed.
Love this.
I'm getting my first dishwasher this weekend. A Bosch Series 800. For the environmental impact alone I know I don't want to do packs. Grew up washing dishes by hand. Happy to be in the 21st century!
Great video thank you, I learned a lot. Personally I have never trusted them and I'm one of 'Those people' who gets their dishwasher fill so well rinsed that it's basically clean going into the dishwasher, wasting a lot of water in the process. The prewash soap story and excess soap story make perfect sense, now that I'm better informed I might start trusting my dishwasher to do what it is supposed to do with the help of some prewash powder.
And yes, I hate pods too, they seem like expensive things that exist only because of slick marketing while adding very little to the lives of consumers, but they are convenient for us.
I bought a portable dishwasher a year ago JUST because of this video and it is life changing
This was helpful AND entertaining.
Here's my ask: Can you make a follow-up video on care and feeding of dishwashers in areas with hard water?
I never knew how much I needed a half hour documentary about dishwasher detergent.
I never noticed this is half an hour long.
I would have hoped that the various pouches in the pack were intended to dispense the various liquids at different stages of the wash. I place the pack in the detergent dispenser and my dish washer works pretty well.
I learned a LOT from this video (like the fact that I have a pre-wash section on my dishwasher) and you made it entertaining and easy to understand. Definitely subscribing. Thanks!
Just read manual when you buy new device 🙃
I just got a new dishwasher after ignoring the broken one in my kitchen for 5 years. This was a big help. I always thought those stupid detergent packs were a gimmick, or at the very least a huge waste of money compared to the boxed powder. I tossed that freebie packet and $3 coupon right in the garbage, then went to the store to buy some good old powder and rinse aid.
I’ve always found that if I put a pod in the actual dispenser it almost never dissolves completely, which is why I started just throwing them in the tub, but I can see now why that doesn’t make much sense. However, I’ve also heard some plumbers say to just throw them in the tub too… we just got 2 massive packs of pods but I think I’ll be switching to powder once they’re gone!
I come to these videos every time I have trouble with my dishwasher. I had never used one before becoming an adult and knowing how it works has helped make the machine work *better*. Really appreciate the content.
This man has turned disgruntled rants into an art form worthy of awards.
@Colin M If you have the time, what did he get wrong, what did he get right, and what did he leave out?
This is the exact reason I've never used dishwasher packs and never will. Because I instantly realized that there is no pre wash detergent and thus cleaning efficiency goes down.
I find the performance of a dishwasher depends quite a bit on how it has been filled... If you have plates and cutlery touching they won't clean, if you make sure to leave an air gap between things it does really well
NOTE: not all dishwashers alternate which arm is running, the more powerful ones and older ones too run everything all at once, because they used enough water and also had a bigger motor than these dinky smaller ones that can’t handle all arms running together. Maytag just stopped making their version of an all at once powerful dishwasher, luckily have one along with a portable Whirlpool powerclean from the 2000s. Awesome powerful machines
I’ve got the exact dishwasher in this video and I’m kind of pumped to see how much of a difference preheating the water and actually using the pre-wash will do.
I’ve just recently bought my first dishwasher at 30 (a compact bench top one) and while I haven’t had a single issue yet with just washing with tablets I’m definitely going to be buying some powder now to pop into the pre wash section, both to make sure my dishes are always reliably cleaned (especially on shorter cycles) and to support the longevity of my investment.
I agree that you shouldn’t have to pre rinse when you’re using a dishwasher, it uses excess water and defeats the purpose and pre wash detergent definitely makes sense though I’ll admit I never considered it before due to the proliferation of detergent tablets.
Okay, you actaully made me look at my Dishwashers Owner's manual.
This is a BOSCH and I am located in Germany, for reference.
The dishwasher does not have a pre-wash compartment.
In the instructions it says (roughly translated) "Attention: due to the different activation time of detergent tablets you might have inferior cleaning power with short-running programs. We recommend powder detergent". Furthermore: "If you use powder detergent, we recommend pouring in a little extra directly into the tub for intensive cleaning, in addition to the detergent dispenser".
WHY DO THEY NOT HAVE A PRE-WASH AREA, THEN? Ugh, that is needlessly confusing.
Thank you for sharing this tid-bit!
I suspect the bit about short-running programs has something to do with the water temperature again since hot water should dissolve the detergent tablets faster. I'm German too but have yet to ever buy or install a dishwasher so I don't know if ours are usually hooked up to hot water too.
And this would also be valid for Siemens dishwashers as they are basically the same accept the logo.
@TheStef1309 You can do it both ways though I'd recommend cold water. It's just easier and more consistent
@Technology Connections It's just uncommon at least in German dishwashers. It is not really necessary, at least with the programmes used by the dishwashers here. On the other hand, using dishwasher salt for descaling the water is absolutely normal and seems quite uncommon in the US. It's just interesting to see the different "traditions" that have evolved in dishwasher operations. You would expect that how to wash dishes would be quite the same all over the world. So for the Bosh-Models having only one compartment seems to be more a thing of that tradition and not so much from giving into pods.
Oh my gosh this was so good!! You answered so many of my questions that I had without me even asking them! Thank you for all the testing you did to show us. 👍🙂
I have a solution I'm surprised you didn't mention. I still buy the dishwashing tablets/pods, but after a wash cycle a year ago where somehow the detergent release lid didn't open and the dishwashing tab remained in there, I decided I would cut open the pod with a scissor and put half in the pre-wash compartment, while the other half is in the wash compartment. I know it's a bit counter-intuitive, but since it's difficult to find regular detergent without it being contained in pod form, I find it efficient since it's using just the right amount of detergent while also avoiding the pratfalls of the detergent being released too late in the cycle.
Thanks for this video. It was extremely helpful! I've found partially disolved pods in my dw after a wash and have had to run a 2nd cycle. I've found it very difficult to find non-pod detergent in stores lately, but after watching this video, i'm going to get on a regular delivery plan for old fashion powder and gel detergent... i have the same kitchenaid dw as you. Once I get my non-pod detergent, i'll be adding extra detergent outside the single dispenser for the prewash cycle.
Love how easily you lifted that. Our dishwashers in South Africa have concrete blocks in them for stability and weight around 50kg.
One of the major issues can be fixed with an oil-fired boiler that heats water almost instantly and continues to heat water as you use it. Basically you can take a hot shower for as long as you wish. Problem is that these systems are used in states that rely on oil for heat such as Connecticut, a state that heavily relies on oil based heating (baseboard heating, water heating etc). That being said these systems are also more expensive to install than basic water heaters that rely on heating a large mass of water which eventually expires once that long shower experience is lost.
The only youtube channel that can make talking about dishwashers for 30 minutes interesting
Older dishwashers had a 3/8 FIP inlet and often times 1/2 od soft copper was used for the inlet pipe. Newer ones still had 3/8FIP inlet but commonplace was 3/8 compression, as of a few years ago, many if not all, now have a 3/4" garden hose thread but 3/8 line is still used. You can get those fittings at your local hardware store (please support local and stay away from home dumpo and lowes!).
Surely if you use a pod in the main detergent compartment and have a smaller box of powder for the pre wash compartment so you have convenience and cleaning power. I personally just use the main compartment and finish Powerball ultimate + rinse aid and my dishes are clean every time but I’ll give it a try
My family has been pre-rinsing dishes forever. Thanks to your video we now a little bit of detergent to the pre-wash and everything is coming out (even burned in pesto). No more pre-rinsing! Thank you 🙏
Something I just realized is that my super cheap dishwasher, that has a dial to control the cycle and a locking lever to turn it on, has a "hot start" option which allows it to start itself with hot water. I don't normally bother with that though and just run the hot water because I have an electric water heater and it's decently quick
This video is amazing. I no longer manually prewash and don’t really hate dishes anymore. Adding in prewash detergent and rinse aid has changed it for me. Thank you so much!!
Pulling a whole dishwasher onto the table is a far bigger power move than I ever go into a youtube video expecting. Good job.
He's got BDE: Big Dishwasher Energy
He has one right there!
To be fair those style of dishwashers are surprisingly light for their size. He had to incorporate his cool backdrop somehow. x)
And then a small blurb a minute later ranting about it cutting his shot :D.
Its at most 70 ish pounds. Probably less.
i showed my cousin this video to explain to her why she suddenly needs to scoop food goo out of her [concerningly old] dishwasher since switching to pods. i despise pods and find they leave a residue that i'm highly sensitive to, as someone immunocompromised with sensitivities to most forms of formaldehyde. thank you for convincing my cousin to switch back to gel detergent :3
Throughly enjoy your work. This is the best explanation of a dishwasher I’ve ever seen. …and Ive installed them for years. Additionally the best visual aid award goes to you sir. Did you buy the new dishwasher so you had a full size visual aid for this video?
I can honestly say after getting a bag of good powder to try, I feel like there's less chance of it still being grubby
We switched to pods at some point for no reason other than it's the most available and it's easy to use, but I'll sure try going back to regular detergent using the prewash. And running hot water before starting my dishwasher. Very intresting video!
I am a very strong believer in both pre rinsing your dishes until they look clean and also using pre wash detergent. I've never had a dishwasher that worked as well as you're saying but I've always used liquid detergent in the two compartments... Maybe it's because I don't preheat my water
I noticed that the gels don’t work as well as the powder, at least for me
I just want to comment to show my respect for the fact that you cut a hole in a dishwasher and re-sealed it for the purposes of educating your viewers. Bloody good work!
He also apparently installed a watertight light source in it
They actually make transparent dishwashers for demonstration purposes at retail stores.
To be honest man I never had a dishwasher around my household and the chances of having one in the future remain uncertain, but I'm still watching this at 1 am instead of sleeping.
I started to service commercial dishwashers, and they have different requirements for heated water and different ways to achieve the temperature, mostly with electric heaters. I decided to run the hot water between cycles on my portable dishwasher and noticed a big difference
0:56 can we talk about how he just lifts the dishwasher onto the desk like it’s made of styrofoam?
They are really light though
ORRRRRR, maybe, A. is a super hero, you do you, but I am going with super hero
I loved how cute he said "hiiii!" aftewards... =)
Definitely superhero.
I remember using this commercial dishwasher and it only took like 20 seconds and all the dishes were super clean, man do I wish I had one of em
Also another note, proper amount of detergent can be used. Some dishwashers work better with less detergent. Too much can cause soap and scum buildup and stain glasses.
Markiplier: "I am a man who owns 5 ovens."
Alec: "That's cute. I own at least 2 of EVERY appliance."
Through the magic of buying two of them, I have an already taken apart one right here!
@Julian I was half expecting him to pull that one off
What does Markiplier need all those ovens for? (juat curious, it's been a while since I watched one of his videos)
two wives as well?
they make the best kitchen appliances.
@95rav no, they do not. one is difficult enough
If you add soda crystals or salt to washing up liquid (dish washing detergent) it stops the water from foaming, and when I wash my antique dishes in the dishwasher. It appears to me that the dish washer also comes out cleaner, and it seems to lift more grease.
Thank you so much for your informative videos! My dishwasher has been running terribly for years and now I know why! I followed this videos advice and now my dishes are beautiful!
Thank you, you have convinced me to switch to a non-detergent-pack option.
Another irritation about pods I have, particularly when doing an 'express' wash, is that the membrane round the detergent takes a bit of time to dissolve, further reducing the amount of time the detergent has to work.