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3D Printed Generative Design Drone Chassis
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- Published on Apr 27, 2023 veröffentlicht
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With @adskfusion360, it's easy to make optimized organic shapes, also known as generative design. What's even more awesome is that we can run our simulation studies in Fusion 360 by directly tapping into the materials for the Formlabs materials library.
In this example, we used the fusion toolkit to make generative design drone chassis printed in Rigid 4000 Resin. Let us know if you want to see a carbon fiber version!
Shoutout to @holbrook_aerospace for their support with this project! 🚀
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What CAD-Software did you use for this?:D
@Randomly Satisfying Looks like Fusion 360!
@Synchron Yes it is Fusion 360
Which material Formlab?
When are you going to upload the files
This is not AI, and it's very common and long known algorithm class called topological optimization
Do you know which software this is ?
I've done top op before, but how do you know that this is top op and not generative design ?
@Haroon Mohammed It's Fusion 360 lol.
@Edison Wong as mentioned it's inventor fusion, but I didn't knew that I just repeat other postings.
I know that it's a classic algorithm because I know the current state of neuronal generators.
You mentioned generative design. This kind of algorithm, that solves you stuff using meta heuristics, is also category "generative design".
So "generative design" does not exclude "classic" algorithms.
AI is nothing more than an algorithm...
@String Studiosa different algorithm though.
He's riding the AI wave that's gotten famous recently instead of referring to it in the proper term, topological design
Except topological design implies manually designed by a human. Models and images built by a learning model are generative AI.
Typical YOU TUBERS do this daily.
Ai isn't a new thing. Anything from Google maps to facial recognition is classified as AI. The computer would have had to try multiple times to get that shape within the requirements
haha "riding the AI wave" exactly
it’s an algorithm not AI
@jacekmakes2168 an AI can change its outputs from the same input, an algorithm can’t
@chase alex
Thanks for sharing this information.
AI : different output from same input
algorithms : same output from same input
Shut up if they computer does it in one click then it must be AI!!! (Joke) 😂😂
You don't know about generative design apart from a superficial understanding of a single generated solution. Which this isn't.
@Omar Hashim a bit of an oversimplification and not exactly on point.
That's not ai it is called topology optimization
Yeah…ai
Is an algorithm
And how is the best topology filtered and selected from the very many optimisations produced in a single solve run do you suppose? Perhaps you should go find out.
@m3chanistit runs a lot of fea solves, doing some sort of convergence towards stiffness to weight. Definitely not ML, and not really ai
@NexIuz not everything on the computer is AI like when you press 1+1 it isn't AI calculating it
Just you wait. Soon cooking recipes pulled out of an old cooking book will be called AI.
You called it! So true
Can we stop calling everything ai?
This does use AI, it's not a mere single topographical solution as the ignorant halfwits elsewhere in these comments are bleating on about.
@m3chanisttell me you’ve never used topology study before without telling me you’ve never used topology study before
@m3chanistThe solution of a topology optimization process is not called "topographical solution" because it modifies the topology of the body, there is no terrains here so topography is not applied by the simple fact is not even related to Topology Optimization.
The result of TO process is called "Optimization solution".
@OmegaDeepBlue Your pedantry is redundant and proves nothing. The point is, (the one you are avoiding by focussing on the irrelevant, the standard pedant dickhead playstyle) is that generative design is not mere topo optimisation AT ALL. It doesn't even need any input topology, just end constraints. Now go waste some time talking about my using "topo" twit.
When you remove matter on an already existing structure, its not generative design its actually topology optimisation...
A statement that clearly illustrates you have no idea about what what you just watched. That structure is merely a bounding box for solutions to be grown in
Arrows with force is upside down. Propellers drag up, not down.
Exactly what I was thinking
Maybe it's a reaction force?
@Justin T. what is a reaction force?
@Matthew Dethlefson the force Wich is the opposing force to the facing upwards force. The downward force is the reaction to the upward force and has an equal amount of force (actio and reactio)
Yup , looking at the shape of it you can tell it thought the load was reversed. Its not nearly as strong as it could be.
'will a lightweight chassis fly'
Definitely unexpected that it did.
Just 30 grams. You can get in the air with pretty tiny motors!
In 100 years people won’t be able to do anything without a computer
it's already happening
This is not AI its a Algorithm in Fusion 360.
Do you use fusion 360?
No you didn't use AI to make the model for you. It is generative design. Besides I doubt you even made the drone, since I checked your videos and there is nothing related to it except this short. doubt you will leave it at a short if you indeed made it.
This is the Formlabs channel...
There’s a bunch of 3d printed drone shorts on this channel…
Oop, another guy who doesn't know what AI is.
You are ignorant. Fusions Gen design isn't about a single topological solve.
@m3chanist it is not AI driven.
I’m so glad everyone else in the comments is calling this guy out for tossing around the term “AI”
Nice design, however the wireframe or Voronoi algorythms for topological optimization are better suited for machining or injection molding. A 3D printer generally allows acheiving better load-to-weight ratios with a "shell plus internal lattice" approach.
p.s. I might be thinking too FDM'ish and I have little experience with SLA printers, so the need to drain excess resin from the infill volume while printing might severely limit the list of applicable infill patterns. Thus, the wireframe approach you've used might in fact be the best in case of SLA printing.
Did the generated shape turn out completely symmetrical or did you have to fix it?
Okay, but this is not AI
P.s. A.I. can legally claim patents. The software designer has legal rights to any and all designs A.I. creates.
I did this exact thing in F360 in my undergrad, the Generative design tool is very fun. We used Beta Flight and Ecalc to tune the hardware and hooked it up to one of those Shark VR headsets.
You’re gonna want to add lateral loads to your arms to stiffen them btw! Your arms are stiff in the vertical direction, but the vibration from the motors will be in the range of the resonating frequency for sure!
What an awesome idea and great organic result! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
It is also known as topology optimization.
Great job!
It's also expensive and no longer included for free in F360.
This is quite revolutionary! We could make incredible designs from a first principles perspective with this!
We officially don't even have to think for ourselves anymore...
At this rate we'll all be immortal within 50 years
This is nearly exactly what compound bow risers look like
Really looks awesome 🤩👍
This wasn't solved on your computer, it was solved in the cloud.
You can attach the electronic parts to a couple of rulers in a + shape and it will fly. You should crash it and test for resistance. Maybe test for flex as you want no flex for most predictability during flight and harsh manouvers.
And just like that
Skynet was born
don't let the government find out
no, the real question is: Will it come back?
Its typically called topology optimization for us engineers 🤓
I wasn’t worried if it would fly but more curious of a durability test? How long does the print take? If one arm breaks do you have to print a whole new chassis. Can you design it for easily replaceable arms? Thank you 😇
we have a bridge like that, for bicycles only. I saw people drive their cars over it. it bounced. awesome tech
“Rough form factor” is 95% of the design. All the AI does is chip away from the build until it gets optimal strength to weight ratio. Soon it will be able to do the rough form itself
Ok. But we need the files for this 🥺
"Will it fly?"
There is a popular saying in aviation.
The Phantom F-4, proof that with enough force even a brick can fly.
Gotta stop calling everything AI. There is no AI in generative design. In fact, that’s been around since mid 90s.
Hey which AI TOOL did you use...Pls give tutorials.....plsss
What software did you use to generate it?
This is not AI.
What drone kit did you use?
Not everything computers do is AI...
THIS IS NOT AI !!!!!
That’s not what AI is, it’s just an engineering assistant, but it’s not going to change in the future. AI continuously is improving.
The amount of non-technical people here that seem to think that they know what is and isn't AI is staggering. Anyone genuinely interested should look up "the AI effect", NLP and OCR were both once considered AI but now that they're so common many people disregard them.
Saying "it's not AI, it's just an algorithm" might be one of the single easies ways to expose that you're a dummy who has no clue what they're talking about.
And that's how you move to Mars and start worshipping machines, ladies and gentlemen.
This is not AI its topology optimisation
You applied the torque in a tiny face which actually wont be resisting the torque.
It will be the arm beam.
People dont know that algorithms are AI, He didnt say machine learning or deep learning. He said artificial intelligence
Quake games that I played in 1999 have algorithms coded in....but where's the artificial intelligence part then?
@tomajino any level of intelligence that is human made is artificial intelligence by definition and that includes automation algorithms.
When you learn to do something but you don't even know the name of the thing!!!
If it’s providing lift, wouldn’t the load be upwards instead? The video shows the load as if it’s pressing downwards.
That's brilliant! Can we use Ai to design a just and freedom-loving government? Seriously, if we gave it the basic design and the data and loads on it, perhaps it would make something worthy of investigation. Anyway, you are ahead of most major manufacturers, I reckon. 👍
Amazing ❤
Jarvis, throw some flame red on there.
Double check, yes the AI buzzword is included. 😁
WHAT SOFTWARE IS BEING USED FOR THIS??
You should stress test it to see how much wieght an arm can take before it breaks, you don't know if it did what it was asked until you test it
Strictly speaking, this is not an AI technology but rather a structural optimization function, as it cannot learn and lacks machine intelligence.
Isn't it freakin' math?
Amazing 😍
You put the force backwards, the motors do not push down but pull up.
Topological Optimization
Now you make sure and register your unregistered drone and keep it flying under 250'. Does it come in black with a one hour power supply in a 4 mile range? Does it come with a night vision camera?
AI is all good but to totally trust it for a critical design - *_NEVER_* !
I've a master of science, working with CAE, structural engineering.
But for designs like yours is OK with AI. So long as you know what you're doing and can assess reasonableness the result.
When you think this is AI 😂
Will it fly??
BOOM 💥
Wich program is u use?
Did you get the straight AI or the gay AI?
Its a form of artificial intelligence
Strength is rarely an issue with drones...vibration is...
Yes strength is an issue when you inevitably crash if you fly aggressive. I can have my drone survive that because it has over engineered strength
Ok it's not AI, got it
Did it fly or not?
Can you use it to design aero dynamic shapes?
Guys guys, math is AI now!
That’s pretty cool
Nerds have entered the chat 🥴💀
“tHiS iS noT AI”
Upi såecofoed the load force but you specified the load backwards. there's no downforce on the motor mounts, it pulls on it. obviously it doesn't matter much for that small drone, but i would enjoy seeing what the design would be with the correct force calculations.
Which software
I'd love to see a bigger one, maybe 7" props. It would be pretty cool to build up with powerful electronics and fpv gear
I'm couscous how this compares to carbon frames. I know what these sorts of resins can resist and what I've seen carbon frames take and honestly I'm skeptical in crashes
@adamvargo7830 prob not that good at all for durability sake. But it might be cool still to try. They already made a carbon frame similar to that but it was expensive
Hey, can you give a step by step way on how to do it?
As camadas da impressão podem descolar.
Could you assist us with designing a motor for electric bicycle but with reduced weight yet strong?
Question is not will it fly, is will it survive a crash
Everyone is saying how it isn't AI, and it's just some topological algorithm. But every form of "AI" that exists today is just an algorithm.
You sure you used AI for the purpose of 3D printing it? 😅
Sell them dude 50$ a peice sick ass drone
Nice!
At 290g, that frame is a pig
Generative design is about goal seeking with a selection of variables in an established geometry. Topology is about the creation of geometry from load conditions.
Even chopsticks will fly. But the process is still cool
Anyone know what software had that generative design toggle?
Which software do you use for this optimizations?
How do you smoothen the model after printing?
Anyone know the software he used? Iv struggled to find any reasonable priced topo/generative design software
Quick question, why print the drone on its side? Does the vertical layering provide more support?
Do you have a course to all of this?
I would like to see an in-depth video on the drone ok
The possibilities really are endless!