Tap to unmute

Every Johto Pokémon Game Freak Forgot

  • Published on Jan 26, 2023 veröffentlicht
  • Get new Hail Yeah and Wildfire Mytey merch at mandjtvmerch.com/ for a limited time!
    Every Johto Pokemon that's never gotten later generation love, like an evolution or new form!
    📽️Subscribe here! bit.ly/mandjtv_sub
    👕Merch store! mandjtvmerch.com/
    🎮Gameplay Channel MandJTV Plays! bit.ly/mandjtv_plays
    💸Support me on Patreon and get perks! bit.ly/mandjtv_patreon
    📱 TikTok! bit.ly/mandjtv_tiktok
    📸Instagram! bit.ly/mandjtv_insta
    👽Reddit! bit.ly/mandjtv_reddit
    🏪Amazon Storefront! bit.ly/mandjtv_shop
    I make Pokemon videos, such as Pokemon Scarlet and Violet content, Pokemon Legends Arceus content, Pokemon playthrough challenges, Top 10 or Top 5 Pokemon videos, Pokemon Talk, Pokemon Meme Review, and lots more! If you're any level of Pokemon fan, subscribe for videos you're sure to love!
    Edited by KeeLoker! KeeLoker
    Mytey subscribe animation by Spoody: / @_judepayne_
  • GamingGaming

Comments • 3 888

  • MandJTV
    MandJTV  2 months ago +838

    I made a weird error in this video and said Shadow Lugia was introduced in the same gen as Lugia, something I know clearly not to be true. I am befuddled and ashamed, but you can make me feel better by buying merch hahahahahaha mandjtvmerch.com/

    • Julie Lerma
      Julie Lerma 13 hours ago

      You know the band kiss.❤🎉

    • GRM
      GRM Day ago

      @George André Veloso Nunes ❤❤

    • Beenevolence
      Beenevolence 7 days ago

      Noivern is my favorite bat

    • Crystal 🔮 Throne IMAX Theaters 🎭
      Crystal 🔮 Throne IMAX Theaters 🎭 15 days ago

      nice vid brody, i liked & subscribed
      hey can u pls make a video on
      Pokemon MMO 3D (free to play, Open World Unreal Engine)

    • yokaifan58
      yokaifan58 20 days ago

      Hey Mandjtv, can you please do this type of video for every generation please

  • collettiville
    collettiville 2 months ago +1834

    For what it's worth, Ariados was gifted a signature move in Gen 7 that would actually be a pretty solid move if given to a pokemon with better stats.

    • Bulborb87
      Bulborb87 23 days ago

      @poopy pants well not every pokemon is going to be good as they can't all be world beaters, also we're always going to be getting regional birds and rodents, early insects, a pikachu clone, a pseudo-legendary, box art legendarys and starters every generation as those are standards

    • poopy pants
      poopy pants 23 days ago

      This is one of my biggest criticisms of Pokemon, the amount of Pokemon out there that just have terrible stats and are completely useless because of that is fucking annoying. That and I hate the regional archetype thing. We don't need 8 versions of Pidgey. Talonflame was the only one that had any amount of creativity to it.

    • Jumping Spider Jesus Freak
      Jumping Spider Jesus Freak Month ago

      @HE’S coming soon My brother in Christ, why are you posting this on a thread about spiders? (Also, LOL, this is the most interesting use for a bot I’ve seen. Kinda sleazy though.)

    • Bulborb87
      Bulborb87 Month ago

      @Melon that it does because it doesn't learn Toxic Thread until level 63 which is way too late for something so horribly weak

    • Melon
      Melon Month ago

      It also learns this way too late, anyone without the patience of a monk has already boxed the spiders well before it learns that move and anyone with that patience will be underwhelmed by the move after taking so long to actually get it.

  • Lex Smith
    Lex Smith 2 months ago +197

    I really wish they would bring back the “baby Pokémon in the wild have 3 perfect IVs” thing. It really gave an incentive to catch and raise them.

    • robert lupa
      robert lupa 5 days ago +1

      @Василий Мельник Gen 6. To be precise, any wild Pokemon in the "Undiscovered/No Eggs" group would be guaranteed tp have at least 3 perfect IVs. This was presumebly done to make getting competitive-ready Legendaries less painful, but a side effect of this made Baby Pokemon (which can't breed either) be affected by this too.

    • Василий Мельник
      Василий Мельник Month ago

      In which gen it worked?

    • Preddy-O
      Preddy-O Month ago +12

      I mean, while that is nice in a way, a huge issue right now is that baby pokemon cannot breed, but are the result of breeding regardless of incense.
      Due to baby pokemon being much more common and a lot easier to catch, I kinda get the IV thing, but on the other hand, hypertraining kinda replaced that.

  • Alouette EXE
    Alouette EXE Month ago +92

    I can actually see Sunflora's potential to evolve. I'd like to imagine Sunflora's evolution being a Grass/Fire type because it's a "sun" flower. Kinda like if Volcarona was a flower.

    • Rubywing4
      Rubywing4 2 days ago

      @Jorge Emilio Well, yeah, I guess maybe the only logical way of evolving again after something special like a trade or an item is to do it with another trade or item, since those don't depend on levels.

    • Jorge Emilio
      Jorge Emilio 2 days ago

      @Rubywing4 Not with a stone, but Porygon evolves with a disc into Porygon 2, and using another disc again evolves into Porygon z, so theres precedent for that

    • J Murray
      J Murray 5 days ago

      Happy I used the oval stone so I could see that being a counter argument
      Though I raised one for the deck and I’ll tell you what those things are a pain due to friendship

    • J Murray
      J Murray 5 days ago +1

      Just babe it a twin sunflower

    • Joey3264
      Joey3264 16 days ago

      This would make an interesting option for a sunlight teammate

  • UnderseaRexieVT
    UnderseaRexieVT 2 months ago +288

    It's worth mentioning Unown did get a buff in Legends Arceus by changing how Hidden Power worked. Now it's not just one type, but it picks a type the opponent is weak to. That's a pretty giant buff, considering that's Unown's only move.

    • LJK401
      LJK401 Day ago

      Amazing how much PLA fixed

    • PickleTheFloof
      PickleTheFloof Month ago

      This is the story of how I got an Unown to carry my team.

    • UnderseaRexieVT
      UnderseaRexieVT Month ago +11

      @A Really short Brontothere No Pokemon has Hidden Power in S&V. It doesn't even work if you were to transfer a Pokemon in, currently.

    • A Really short Brontothere
      A Really short Brontothere Month ago


    • UnderseaRexieVT
      UnderseaRexieVT Month ago +8

      @Max Welton536,329 Non-existence? AFAIK it's not in SV at all.

  • gab_gabriel
    gab_gabriel 2 months ago +40

    To be fair, Meganium was given a lot of focus in New Pokemon Snap and was even the mascot for that game's gimmick

    • Myself
      Myself 6 days ago

      ​@Joey3264 chikorizzta

    • Joey3264
      Joey3264 16 days ago +1

      Im one of the few players that like the chikorita family, id love a grass/fairy legends form❤️ (change celebi to a grass/fairy while were at it)

  • Felipe Bórquez
    Felipe Bórquez 2 months ago +31

    Ash-Greninja is available through the Pokémon SM demo so...that was the truly first case of a starter getting a unique form while the others didn't

    • Linhardt von Hevring
      Linhardt von Hevring Month ago +2

      The only thing Chesnaught and Delphox have gotten since X and Y was Braixen being playable in Pokkén Tournament, which hardly counts IMO.

    • Youtube-Kit94
      Youtube-Kit94 Month ago +6

      Yeah, that was weird to say "First time in Pokémon history where one starter got a new form and the others did not"
      Greninja in gen 6 got literally everything served to him on a silver platter and Chesnaught and Delphox got shafted about a hundred ways to sunday.
      Imo, those two by far are the most shafted starters in history, not getting any new forms, not having any treatment, be it special or not, being both completely and utterly overshadowed by the gen 1 starters getting megas and being shoved down our throats *and* Greninja getting absurd anime exposure, a new form, a busted-ass secret ability (two if you count its other form) and so on and not being obtainable in a *single game* since X/Y, literally. You only can get them in S/M/USUM by trading them in from a game (aka X/Y) and not any way like other starters with island scan or something, you can't get them in gen 8 and gen 9... oh wait, you can. Guess which one. Yup, Greninja.
      The Johto starters are a case of generally not getting enough exposure until Typhlosion got some with its Hisuian form, but imo Chesnaught and Delphox are the starters that truly drew the shortest end of the stick when compared to its compatriots. Gen 5 also will have super shafted starters until the gen 5 remakes, to be clear. But even they were playable and obtainable in more games, having a pair of games and their sequels. Delphox and Chesnaught don't even have a third version.

  • Leafeon
    Leafeon 2 months ago +825

    15:19 also giving Shuckle an evolution means that Shuckle will be able to use an Eviolite, making it's defenses even more insane

    • AmyTransGaming
      AmyTransGaming 12 days ago

      921 Defense and SpDef Shuckle? Yeah, that'd be insane.

    • Null Point
      Null Point Month ago

      @Eeveefan 1 20 base HP, oh god that's bad...

    • Null Point
      Null Point Month ago

      @Eeveefan 1 Defense is meaningless without enough HP.
      Give me a moment to check Shuckles stats.

    • Cpt Haxray
      Cpt Haxray Month ago

      @Joseph Hsu To be fair, Shuckle already has near the top level defenses, but its HP stat being so poor is why it is a terrible wall. Tossing even more defenses on it would likely not break shuckle with it's bad defensive typing, as its not fixing the Hp problem.

    • Saiyan254
      Saiyan254 Month ago

      Yeah and power trick makes it super strong

  • clydae
    clydae 2 months ago +61

    I would love to see Noctowl get the Dark typing. As a kid I remember hoothoot being so exciting because it was the first pokemon you could encounter that only spawned at night, something that wasn't present in the first games. I just thought that was so neat, so I think a Dark typing would be a nice nod to that.

    • robert lupa
      robert lupa 5 days ago

      I can't really see Noctowl as a Dark type. It looks a bit scary, sure, but it doesn't strike me as "malicious" or "one that doesn't fight fair."
      Oh you meant that it's a nocturnal Pokemon? Yeah, no, that's not what the Dark type is about.

    • CoffeeFlavoredMilk
      CoffeeFlavoredMilk Month ago

      A cool idea I could see is pulling a Lycanroc and having its evolution have forms with unique attributes based on time of day, though in this case typings. One is Dark/Flying, One Psychic/Flying, and maybe one Ghost/Flying. Yes two of those overlap with Oricorio which also has alternate forms but I think you can something different with Noctowl. Also I dunno I just think the concept of a "day owl" Pokemon kinda amusing in a way given its an inverse of basic animal biology.

    • 476233
      476233 Month ago +4

      That’s such a good point!

  • Eaglest05
    Eaglest05 2 months ago +16

    Honestly Xatu is another one that would work really well as evolving into a ghost type. It already spends its time gazing into the past and future, you could give it like a "While trying to solve the mysteries of the past and future, this pokemon neglected its wellbeing in the present. Now that it's evolved, it's practically become one with the flow of time. Do wrong by it, and you might find yourself fading out of existence as it prevents your parents from ever meeting in the past."

  • Jarrod Nisly
    Jarrod Nisly 2 months ago +93

    Idea for Xatu evo:
    Xanatu (based off the concept of Xanadu, but following the naming convention of its pre-evs)
    After having gazed into the future for so many years, it was finally able to peer into the afterlife. What it saw was so shocking, this pokemon passed away due to shock.

    • O Tom das Pelúcias
      O Tom das Pelúcias 24 days ago +2


    • --
      -- Month ago +2

      Wouldn't Ghost/Psychic be better assuming that it's not a bird anymore?

    • Lord of Keks
      Lord of Keks Month ago +1

      Cool concept. Kinda like annihilape who got so angry that he died

    • Semudara
      Semudara 2 months ago +13

      Reminds me of how Gothitelle will have visions of how the universe ends and just casually shares them with other Pokémon. xD

  • mati gamer 329
    mati gamer 329 2 months ago +25

    I think Skarmory didn't get a new evolution is because it would make Skarmory hold the eviolite, which boost the defense and special defense by 50% but only works if the pokémon can still evolve. Add the fact that it's only weak to fire and electric and its high physical defense and you get a Toxapex 2.0.

    • Ofir Soroka
      Ofir Soroka Month ago

      That can be a Rhydon vs Rhyperior 2.0 because you can give Skarmory eviolite and make it insanity bulk, but he has to hold the eviolite while it's Evo can hold other items

    • CoffeeFlavoredMilk
      CoffeeFlavoredMilk Month ago

      Eviolite Skarmory vs Skarmory evolution would basically be Chansey vs Blissey 2.0 if all they did was just make the Skarm evolution have better defenses or w/e. I think they should go a route that sets the evolution apart to give a reason to use one over the other. Think Porygon2 vs Porygon-Z. Maybe give it a lot more offensive pressure, change the type even. I remember one time I saw someone make a Fakemon evolution of Skarmory that was, of all types, Steel/Dragon.

  • alphabet soup
    alphabet soup 2 months ago +28

    I was genuinely surprised Sunflora got nothing in gen 9. Especially since it had a focus from the grass leader. It could've absolutely gotten a new Evo in Scarlet and Violet.

  • Ujjwol Chaulagain
    Ujjwol Chaulagain 2 months ago +699

    Lugia and Luigi sound like they could be two box art legendaries.

  • Maurice Sakelsek
    Maurice Sakelsek 2 months ago +10

    Ever since jumpluff got in my scarlet team as a meme, but ended carrying my team, it will always have a place in my heart

    • Ofir Soroka
      Ofir Soroka Month ago

      I wanted to use it, but I was locked on Spregatito and also got a Flechling

    • Alex McKee
      Alex McKee Month ago +1

      Yeah I was surprised at how good Jumpluff is in Violet. I caught a Hoppip for old times sake never having actually used it it properly in GSC, and in Violet Jumpluff has become one of my favourite Pokémon to use.

  • Anisuperketchup77
    Anisuperketchup77 2 months ago +9

    If ledian were to get an evolution, just make its attack stat crazy, and buff its speed a little bit. The signature move could probably be a bug type punch move, so it could make iron fist worth it.

  • Buldrahil Gaming
    Buldrahil Gaming 2 months ago +24

    Im not really in favor to give Unown a new form myself, but it came to mind that they could make an "exodia" form. So if you have them all they could fuse together making a really strong, big pokemon with all letters. It would still just know hidden power though, but would have an intense increase in stats. Would also give you some kinda trophy to collect them all.

    • JCDragon2819
      JCDragon2819 Month ago +1

      I always thought Unown should have gotten its own exclusive Z-Move based off of Hidden Power that deals super-effective damage to all types regardless of combinations and abilities.

    • Cameron Naylor
      Cameron Naylor Month ago +6

      Call it "Rosetta" named after the Rosetta Stone!

  • Abhi P
    Abhi P Month ago +3

    Lugia is the ultimate legendary along with Ho-Oh. Nothing is more ominous and exciting than those two in silver/gold. So mysterious and mystic and natural. Not a motorcycle, not a robot or alien, not a GMO, just a straight up flying creature from the depths of the ocean with a killer soundtrack

  • Elmar A. Hannah
    Elmar A. Hannah 2 months ago +19

    I'd love an evolution for Sudowoodo that has decorated itself with leaves and vines and is now a Rock/Grass type since it has incorporated enough plants to actually count as a plant. Kinda like how Bulbasaur and Paras have things growing from them and therefore gain the Grass typing.

  • Ir0n Leviathan
    Ir0n Leviathan 2 months ago +115

    I’d love to see Lanturn get a regional variant that’s Ghost/Water, having it be a guide for the souls of people who die at sea. A regional evolution on top of that would be awesome too.

    • J McK
      J McK 2 months ago

      @court I said that EXACT same thing when I read Leviathan's comment 😂😂 that idea is so sick

    • Minh Cao
      Minh Cao 2 months ago +1

      Give him a Fire/Water regional would be better for me.

    • creepi boi
      creepi boi 2 months ago

      @court for real.

    • Rhodu
      Rhodu 2 months ago +12

      Maybe in a Greek region! As the farer to the underworld!

  • Khail Rosil
    Khail Rosil 2 months ago +3

    A lot of the mons had an upgrade via the introduction of Hidden Abilities. Xatu was used because of Magic Bounce, Feraligatr was given Sheer Force and was able to acquire Dragon Dance. These, for me, were good upgrades.

  • Shivur
    Shivur Month ago +1

    The lore behind the creation of lugia is enough for me. I absolutely love lugia and once I found out the story behind it I'll never complain about lugia never getting extra attention

  • Kayla Metcalfe
    Kayla Metcalfe 2 months ago +34

    Your light-hearted tone, goofy comedy, and dedication to loosely following the scientific method have brought much joy to my house. My partner and I have both been struggling through a rough time and putting your videos on helps us feel more hopeful. Thank you so much for your content

    PIXEL TERRABYTE 2 months ago +3

    Unown could have an ability similar to wishiwashi or zaygard, but it only activates if you have collected them all, just imagine you being beaten up by a cluster of Unown

  • Hydros Phagus
    Hydros Phagus 2 months ago +14

    16:51 Speaking of regional form, imagine an Australian Pokemon region where Octillery becomes Water/Poison based on blue-ringed octopus.

  • Addison_V_Ertisement
    Addison_V_Ertisement 2 months ago +132

    Personally, I've had an idea of Octillary evolving into a giant pirate ship that's also a giant squid, with canons under its suckers. I gave it the water/steel typing, and named it Kalarmada.

    • Addison_V_Ertisement
      Addison_V_Ertisement Month ago

      @Ignochomp99 Yeah, a kraken is basically a big squid.

    • Addison_V_Ertisement
      Addison_V_Ertisement Month ago

      @DARIO GOMEZ LOPEZ Why not? All Moody does is lower one stat and raise another.

    • TwistedTaco
      TwistedTaco 2 months ago +2

      HELLO??!?!? THATS SO COOL?!?!?

    • KhaanMan66
      KhaanMan66 2 months ago

      It’s already close to a Kraken so I think that next evolution could work. Make it water/dark typing because of the kraken being terrifying for sailors.

    • robert lupa
      robert lupa 2 months ago +1

      @Prof. Reuniclus Light that burns the sky is pretty much a nuke.

  • Cola Girl143
    Cola Girl143 Month ago +2

    I know that gen 7 is in the past, but imagine an Unown Z-move that acts like no retreat and an actually good psychic attack
    But it can only be used on Unown-Z

  • Joe Lara
    Joe Lara Month ago +3

    If they could make a Jhotolegends showing you how the tower burns down that would be cool. They could add in extras such as Xatu having an evolved form, feraligatr as a dark and water, or ground and water and Meganium with a Grass poison typing, while possibly adding adding in a starter from a different region to cover the 3rd pick. They could also add in ever evolutions with that due to the focus on eevee in Jhoto

  • Fahim Tausif
    Fahim Tausif 2 months ago +7

    For Ledian's evolution, I have an idea of going the Maushold route. Just have 5 of them with different colours. Lediam seems to have some Kamen Rider inspiration, so it would be cool for its evolution to have some Super Sentai inspiration. Also POWER OF FRIENDSHIP.

  • Sam Perez
    Sam Perez Month ago +1

    You can also use Shadow Lugia in Pokémon Go, which is also weirdly connected to the mainline for trading. It's specially important because it was probably the inspiration for the concept of all shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Go. Shadow Lugia could be seen as an upgrade to Lugia from a DPS perspective too. They should just make it canon as the alternative form in the mainline games since it has appeared in two pretty prominent spinoffs.

  • Bloody Static
    Bloody Static 2 months ago +4

    I hope that when Game Freak makes a Michigan-based Pokémon region, there will be a dark-flying type Blue Jay Pokémon because Blue Jays in nature are really big bullies, both figuratively and literally and they scream at the top of their lungs in order to drive other birds out of the feeders.

  • Quaid Reynolds
    Quaid Reynolds 2 months ago +133

    I know you counted getting the fairy type as special treatment for azumarill, but its also worth mentioning the fact that it was given the ability huge power in gen 3 when abilities were introduced. That plus the physical/special split in gen 4 made azumarill so strong. It's just been getting better and better over the years

    • Ofir Soroka
      Ofir Soroka Month ago

      It's like wine: the more time passes, the better

    • Otis Cluck
      Otis Cluck 2 months ago +1

      @RequiemKale yeah it’s so useful when it immediately dies after using belly drum

    • A&A Kwok
      A&A Kwok 2 months ago +3

      @Quaid Reynolds belly drun+huge power=shred

    • Quaid Reynolds
      Quaid Reynolds 2 months ago +8

      @Brent Robinson it had both huge power and thick fat in gen 3, but at that time all water moves were special so they were unaffected by huge power. In gen 4 there was the physical/special split so moves like waterfall became physical and could utilize huge power

    • Brent Robinson
      Brent Robinson 2 months ago +1

      It had huge power in gen 3? Are u sure. I thought it was only thick fat in gen 3 but in gen 4 he got huge power which started it getting buff and better

  • Khal Draco
    Khal Draco 2 months ago +2

    17:40 Mantine did get a stat buff in gen 7, going from 65 base HP to 85 so not entirely forgotten

  • Katie J
    Katie J Month ago

    I think a shuckle evolution could totally be done. I've seen plenty of fanart out there of it and even drew one myself. Made it also fighting type and called it ShuckleDuster.

  • Sam
    Sam 2 months ago +2

    Unknown should DEFINITELY be part of a fetch quest like Spiritomb of gimmegouhl. Except in stead of collecting items or talking to people, I think you should have to catch one of each form of Unknown and then bring each one to a pokemon researcher. S/he will say "You have made a complete catalogue?! Oh Please would you give them all to me for research purposes? You would not be able to get them back..." If you say "Yes" then the researcher should let them all out of their balls at once, leading to them all swarming together in an orbit around mystical glowing energy (like in "Pokemon the Movie: Spell of the Unknown"). the researcher should then state that this pokémon is too strong for him or her and ask you to take it back. Thus you can receive the Unown- complete form. This should actually have good stats and a move pool to reflect their immense power.

  • IntrepidSword
    IntrepidSword Month ago

    Polities actually got a huge buff. In gen 5 It got the drizzle ability, summoning rain when it enters the field. Since weather was permanent in gen 5, Politoed skyrocketed in usage as the only rain setter. Later, however, Pelipper would outclass it in this role.

  • Dragon Strike
    Dragon Strike 2 months ago +7

    3:01 “Pidgeot being the only one to get anything”
    *Corvinight has left the chat*

    • Namkwal
      Namkwal 4 days ago

      well... thats also the only generally actually great pokemon in gen 8 so

  • Testekill
    Testekill 2 months ago +166

    Wynaut was actually really important to making Wobuffett usable as it lets Wobuffett learn Encore which is huge since it takes away the need to predict what attack the opponent is using.

    • Prasanna Bhat
      Prasanna Bhat Month ago +1

      Well that is true but they could have added encore to wobuffett. Atleast it is good for wynaut memes

    • White Rabbit
      White Rabbit 2 months ago +2

      Please stop the human sacrifice at the particle accelerator laboratory.

    • Joe King
      Joe King 2 months ago +4


  • Byrdmaniac
    Byrdmaniac 2 months ago +1

    Mantine exactly gets the upgrade you asked for in Radical Red, where it is an Electric/Poison type. It's a pretty good mon too, with Storm Drain and solid stat distribution & movepool.

  • KittyMations
    KittyMations Month ago

    I used a Lanturn named Flicker on my main playthrough team of Shield, it was the first pokemon game I ever played beginning to end and I used the exact team all through the DLC as well (with the exception of replacing my Thievul with the gift Silvally from the battle tower). It's not my favorite pokemon but using it on my team definitely made me grow a soft spot for it, so I'd definitely be down to see it get some love. And, funnily enough, it stood out the most from the rest of my team, being the only one that had dual typing, a non-attacking move, was not in a regular pokeball, and was the last addition to my team before the champion. And surprisingly, despite its "meh" stats, it did manage to pull through for me in some really tough battles so I have Flicker to thank for that! If I were to use that same Lanturn again it'd be nice to see it get a well-needed upgrade so it can continue to be awesome.

  • Kingo_Clubs
    Kingo_Clubs 2 months ago +2

    Great video michael! Johto is probably the least forgotten gen overall, but id love to see videos like this with other (early) gens.

  • Mr.Pokemon
    Mr.Pokemon 2 months ago +1

    I think a fun regional form for shuckle would be flipping it's offensive stats with the defensive ones

  • Fishyboi
    Fishyboi 2 months ago +1

    I'm hoping they make a lot more Paldean forms for the dlc

  • Beta Bee
    Beta Bee 2 months ago +211

    I feel Ledian actually has the highest chance of any early route bug to get something. It just feels like it has more potential than the others

    • 13th FullMoon
      13th FullMoon 2 months ago

      Maybe they could give it an evolution inspired by the power rangers. Maybe give it steel typing and make it a special attacking counter part to Scizor!

    • Fahim Tausif
      Fahim Tausif 2 months ago +1

      @robert lupa I actually commented something like that. But you beat me in timing.

    • Cameron Lapp
      Cameron Lapp 2 months ago +2

      Ledian is one of those Pokemon I get excited catching in playthroughs but end up boxing when I check Bulbapedia :(
      I remember it being good? Mandela effect?

    • Nagg
      Nagg 2 months ago +3

      It feels like they accidentally swapped its special defense and attack. Like why 110 special defense when you have IRON FISTS?

    • robert lupa
      robert lupa 2 months ago +2

      Super Sentai Ladybug! WOOHOO!

  • Chucho E. Quintero
    Chucho E. Quintero Month ago

    I don’t know if you’d count it as an upgrade but Forretress got access to Body Press in gen9, making it super dangerous 😮

  • Honda Accord
    Honda Accord Month ago +1

    I'm sure you already have ideas, but I was wondering if you could rate how well the original gen 1 mini sprites fit the actual Pokemon they're based on? Gen 2 as well, if you're feeling bold 😊

  • SilverPumpkin
    SilverPumpkin Month ago

    You mentioned how giving Sudowoodo an evolution/regional form would change too much because of its theme, so i think giving it a Convergent line would be perfect! You'd be able to make another sudowoodo without changing the original sudowoodo!

  • Dustin Walls
    Dustin Walls Month ago

    There’s a reason Rowlett, Oshawott, and Cyndaquil were the chosen mons to be starters. Each of their names hold a feudal Japanese reference in which Legends of Arceus was built around- feudal Japan. Not to discount the lack of love chikorita and todadile got but there were reasons.

  • The Mountain's Crest

    Azumarill and Marill both got Huge Power as an upgrade in Gen 3. Arguably as important as the fairy type upgrade imo

  • SpaceSaturnArts
    SpaceSaturnArts 2 months ago +180

    I just saw a reddit post about how Furret should have a pop star evo, like a counterpart to Obstagoon, and I think thats a really fun idea. It could get a normal/fairy regional form

    • Jarrod Nisly
      Jarrod Nisly 2 months ago +2

      I love this

    • Callum loader
      Callum loader 2 months ago +7

      @Lumalee! primarina is better looking to me then the ugly final forms for sobble and quaxly. I also like it more then greninja (but I know that’s unpopular)

    • Connaeris
      Connaeris 2 months ago +4

      Oh yes that would be so cute

    • TheLuckyGamer
      TheLuckyGamer 2 months ago +28

      @Lumalee! yes.

    • Lumalee!
      Lumalee! 2 months ago +8

      Do we need another Primarina tho….

  • Nick Linn
    Nick Linn 2 months ago +1

    Sudowoodo could evolve into a felled sequoia or some other large tree, which gives it the ability to block a path pushed with strength. Wobbufet could see the “tail” aka the Pokémon itself become the main body and becomes more offensive based.

  • Vincent Visser
    Vincent Visser 2 months ago

    Dude you stepped up your game with this video. Quality, humor, great editing too

  • John Smith
    John Smith 2 months ago +1

    Forretress is a perfect candidate for a paradox form. It could be called iron blaster or iron cannon

  • Parasaurolophus Z
    Parasaurolophus Z 4 days ago

    The only upside I can think of for baby forms is they let some Pokemon be encountered earlier than they normally would and give the satisfaction of getting one more evolution as you play.
    It's neat to, for example, get a Pichu at the start of SuMo and work with it to get it to Pikachu instead of just getting a Pikachu right off.
    Azurill is another one like that, and I remember catching one early on in my Pokemon Y game to use as my Water type in a playthrough.
    Better example might be something like Smoochum, since Jinx is almost always caught super late but Smoochum could be placed in the wild early, or Igglybuff, which you can get super early in SV, but Jigglypuff normally is an early/mid encounter instead of a route 1 encounter.
    It's not a lot, but it's one purpose for baby forms, I guess!

  • cameron sims
    cameron sims 2 months ago

    I honestly thought sigilyph was going to be the evolution to zatu since it was released and still would make sense. They share similar move pool, inspiration in design and roles in battle. Only sigilyph is more powerful in use

  • Alec Holloway
    Alec Holloway 2 months ago +47

    I know they already had the dialga/Celebi time travel stuff in the mystery dungeon series but it just makes so much sense to tie them into scarlet and violet DLC with time travel being such a focal point of the games. Dialga is already featured in Legends Arceus and could be a great way to tie that in and Celebi could be used as a way to explain bringing the paradox Pokemon to the present

    • Beep boop
      Beep boop 2 months ago +6

      It's certainly interesting to think about, but I disagree with it making sense. Dialga is from hisui/sinnoh, which is based on Hokkaido in Japan. Celebi is also from a region based on a place in Japan. Scarlet and Violet take place in what is very Spanish/Portuguese. The looks and feels of Dialga and Celebi don't fit neatly with the region. The time travel machine fits much better, both in the story and as design. A product of a professor becoming obsessed with learning more about this strange place and it's past/future, which has become out of control and sucking more and more pokemon from other times into the present.
      And aside from that, it would be really weird to have a legendary Pokemon from a different region play a main role in games that take place in a completely different region on the other side of the world. Legends Arceus and the mystery dungeon had legendaries play a role in the story where their home region is (near), so that was much less jarring

  • Michael Deypalubos
    Michael Deypalubos Month ago

    I always tell myself that all original 151 Pokemon (or atleast one in each evolutionary family) will have a new form (regional variant/mega evolution/ gigantamax) or an additional evolution before the franchise ends, but I hope Johto Pokemon will too.

  • Toady
    Toady Month ago

    I always liked the idea of a regional Noctowl that looks like a snowy owl and is Ice/Psychic. Hisui would've been a great opportunity for that

  • Pitaya_Is_Cool
    Pitaya_Is_Cool Month ago

    It is worth mentioning that lugia got a really playable card in the tcg that was so good that almost every non lugia deck in tournaments was a lugia counter deck

  • erik rocha
    erik rocha 2 months ago +3

    In all honesty I feel that Jynx does deserve a evolution since magmorator and electavire do exist within that trio

    • Semudara
      Semudara 2 months ago

      Jynx absolutely deserves an evolution. Something kinda based on the Baba Yaga, I figure?

  • UprisingCanadian
    UprisingCanadian 2 months ago

    Vileplume and Bellossom were honestly perfect candidates for Megas, and I could see them being a really good regional form, or even version-based plot, like how Gordie and Melony were seperate gym leaders in SwSh.
    Bellossom probably could have done well as a standalone Pokémon such as Stunfisk or Absol though.

  • Seanzy Man
    Seanzy Man 2 months ago +168

    I actually think an evo for Octillery could work really well. If you give it the same treatment as Dracopult where it can use Remoraids like guns it can pull out. Make it an armory of sorts, have it evolve into a squid even. So more tentacles, Remoraids stored in its body, and then it would come full circle with the whole "gun fish" motif.

    • Ben
      Ben Month ago

      @Batgames89 Because Remoraid is based on an Archerfish which shoots water. Octillery is based on an Artillery/a tank. It uses its snout/mouth like a Bazooka, hence Octozooka. It’s ability is Sniper.
      Why would they turn into swords instead of bullets.

    • Batgames89
      Batgames89 Month ago

      @Ben why would they suddenly become guns?

    • Ben
      Ben Month ago

      @Batgames89 why would they suddenly become swords

    • Batgames89
      Batgames89 Month ago

      Renoraid swords. To be unique

    • xS3t0x
      xS3t0x Month ago

      @Enrique III el Laberíntico yooooooo that's a name I can get behind

  • Ise no Kami
    Ise no Kami Month ago

    I recall nicknaming my Ledyba/Ledian “Ledrior” a few times, and somehow tricked myself into thinking Ledrior was the name of a third stage. For that alone I’d be down for giving them a new evolution.

  • Little6 [小さな六]

    I think a cool Ledian getting a variant with the typing of bug/fighting would be cool and help its ability

  • Spazzy
    Spazzy 2 months ago

    I broke my hand recently and watching Mikey’s videos made my day better, thank you for being an active and entertaining poketuber for years 😊

  • Glitchtopia
    Glitchtopia Month ago +1

    Sunflora should require a moonstone to evolve into a weak gloomy wilted kinda flower that when sunny day is up, becomes really powerful with amazing stats and moves.

  • Yamil Diaz
    Yamil Diaz Month ago

    It would be kind of interesting if they gave Ho-Oh and Lugia a third legendary counterpart. I always saw Ho-Oh as representing the Sun and the Sky. While Lugia was more of a symbol for the Moon and the Sea. Also one was associated with the Beast Trio while the other was related somewhat to the Bird Trio. So a third counterpart bird embodying the Earth as both the planet and the element could work and maybe make it relatively associated with the Swords of Justice Trio.

  • Jared C
    Jared C Month ago

    Gen 2 introduced so many cool pokemon, but so many either sucked in battle, or you just couldn't find them in a casual playthrough of the region. This is why I so want a remake of the Gen 2 games in some way, and with an interesting spread of the pokemon from that region so you can use them on your journey

  • Mohamed Hamed
    Mohamed Hamed 2 months ago +1

    for jumpluff, its not too bad though, because it has sleep powder and it has potential to be really fast if paired with a torqoal. it also learns tailwind and pollen puff, two amazing supportive moves (I really like pollen puff because its a very versatile move). it makes for a surprisingly good support pokemon if you can get it to not die. just set a harsh sunlight and give it a focus lens so it can hit sleep powder, and that's a potential strategy. still though, if its not 100 percent accurate, its not accurate at all, so yeah, sleep powder will be difficult. comment possible counters though, I'm always trying to improve.

  • Parp
    Parp 2 months ago +1

    Dragonite getting multiscale was great though. People overlook hidden abilities.

  • Angry Bord
    Angry Bord 5 days ago

    You must do Hoenn next! I think everyone is suprised that Milotic got nothing all these years.

  • Gallifreyan Warrior
    Gallifreyan Warrior 2 months ago +2

    Also, in regards to Unown... it needs a new moveset , as it only knows Hidden Power, and that move is not in Generations 8 and 9 (maybe 7 as well )

  • Misk-ivus
    Misk-ivus 2 months ago +45

    As a person who loved Misdreavus, you could imagine my excitement seeing Flutter Mane in Area Zero having never heard of it before playing the game.

    • Londlock
      Londlock Month ago +4

      Also, Flutter Mane is a Ghost/Fairy type. Meaning that after all these years, Mimikyu is no longer alone.

  • Animosity
    Animosity Month ago

    I use ladian a lot in Pokémon stadium 2, if you transfer it into your game with a good move set it’s actually quite viable, you can go the spore route and use it as a stall Pokémon and just sleep, paralyze your opponent. You can also go with sunny day and solar beam direction along with giga drain and correct me if I’m wrong but I think it can learn fly and even hyper beam

  • Focus Objectives
    Focus Objectives Month ago

    Feraligatr is my 2nd favorite Pokémon behind Squirtle. A regional variation would be absolutely fantastic.

  • Looth Hussain fazeel
    Looth Hussain fazeel 29 days ago

    IMO a cool idea for a skarmory evolution would be an apex predator that can easily take down corviknight. I also think it should lean into the whole "feathers like swords" thing

  • Travis Friedrich
    Travis Friedrich 16 days ago

    Magcargo’s evolved form can be done through a metal coat trading.
    Also, imagine if Smeargle gets different VARIANTS based on “creative” occupations. Like a defensive smeargle variant that can “cook” up new moves.

  • yesUwatchingME
    yesUwatchingME Month ago

    I'd love to see a new evo for smeargle, keeps same stats (maybe even lower all stats except for HP or something) and giving it a new ability were after it uses a move in it's move set it switches the entire moveset into a secondary moveset and after using one of the moves in that set it switches back. Call it "Palette Swap". Would just love to see it do something wacky with 8 moves but might be completly busted ahah

  • MasterOf Chaos72
    MasterOf Chaos72 2 months ago +96

    Idea for a Unown upgrade: A new ability called Power of the Unown. Gives Unown a 1 stage boost to all its stats equal to the number of Unown in the party (I.e. +1 to all if there’s 1 Unown and +6 if the whole team is Unown).

    • Vanym Storm
      Vanym Storm 2 months ago +2

      Eeeh, I get why you'd want it to involve using multiple unown, but given that this means saddling potentially your whole team with unown's many shortcomings just to make it useable, I'd be leery. It's a little like the old plusle/minun issue. Maybe better if collecting all the varieties unlocked a sort of "Unified Forme" where your unown summons a swarm of its kin when sent into battle. Bonus points if the effect is something beyond just Embiggened Numbers.

    • mercury a2000
      mercury a2000 2 months ago +2

      @Adam Morin Instead of a lord of the unknown, they could maybe phrase it as almost being the arms of Arceus. Where they pretty much control a large chunk of unknown and make them work together, with the dex noting that they still act like subservient pokemon for some unknown reason.

    • TGX42
      TGX42 2 months ago +5

      I think it should get all "Power" moves, like Cosmic Power.

    • R - G - C
      R - G - C 2 months ago +5

      What kind of TCG bs is that lol.

    • Ofir Soroka
      Ofir Soroka 2 months ago +2


  • FrogWithStyle
    FrogWithStyle Month ago +1

    I think a good change for wobbufet (aka a regional form) is a wobbufet that is an extremely frail but really hard hitter that is really fast.

  • Zeturic
    Zeturic 2 months ago

    This video reminds me of a thought I had a while back.
    Pseudo Legendaries are always 3-stage Pokémon in the Slow experience group with a 600 BST in their final stage. The most they've ever done to mix up the concept was a regional variant Pseudo Legendary with Hisuian Goodra.
    If they wanted to mix things up, one thing they could do is a cross-generational evolution that retroactively turns an existing 2-stage line into a pseudo-legendary. There are tons of examples of 2-stage evolutionary lines in the Slow experience group they could do this with, such as Lanturn and Houndoom (incidentally, Mega Houndoom actually has a BST of 600, but sadly it's not a permanent evolution).

  • Erebos
    Erebos Month ago +2

    16:58 we already have GMAX Blastoise as a naval supercraft turtle/tortoise. Having an aircraft carrier turtle would be a bit redundant and likely get overshadowed by GMAX Blastoise if it happened too soon

    TURDY_ WATER Month ago

    I think it'd be cool if Unown could evolve if you had every form and maybe some item. Could turn into a book since it's just letters, maybe with more Unown swirling around it

  • Cindy Helms
    Cindy Helms 23 days ago

    Firstly, I'd like to mention Mantine DID get special treatment in Gen 7 with the Mantine Surf minigame…
    And trust me, Crobat was definitely the center of my attention when I was trying to complete the Arkoos Pokédex…!
    Had to catch the stupid guaranteed Alpha one cuz the Golbat I was trying to evolve refused to be my best friend!

  • TyplosionAttack
    TyplosionAttack 2 months ago +56

    Delibird and Stantler getting evos/forms has made me so unbelievably happy. Two of my favorite Pokemon. I also love both of Donphony

    • robert lupa
      robert lupa 2 months ago +2

      > Donphony

    • Taylor Perchase McCarthy
      Taylor Perchase McCarthy 2 months ago +7

      @AustinSPTD1996 Iron Bundle is close enough as it’s very explicitly a future Delibird, while it’s not coded as a Delibird it is for all purposes a new form of Delibird, just under a different dex entry

    • AustinSPTD1996
      AustinSPTD1996 2 months ago +1

      Delibird never got any new forms.

    • TyplosionAttack
      TyplosionAttack 2 months ago +3

      @Bulborb87 True... But it's also my favorite region

    • Bulborb87
      Bulborb87 2 months ago +4

      i mean Johto is home to a lot of pokemon that are underwhelming

  • grizzly bear with no rizz

    if smoochum could get a different evolution that was actually good then i feel like that would bring it justice, like a psychic fighting, its a same like jynx with the dancing but it incorporates its dance moves with fighting, and it could have a signature move thats like ballet lash or something, and it is a ribbion dancer with psyching energy whips

  • Max Etten
    Max Etten 2 months ago

    Furret is the only early route normal I used on my final team during my first playthrough of a game. I think ferrets are cool.

  • armageddon287
    armageddon287 2 months ago

    I am a massive fan of unown so would love to see it get something to make it usable. A paradox form I think could work would involve them being the thousand arms of Arceus and behave like a swirling vortex, think the heartless tornado in kingdom hearts.

  • UltimateMustacheX
    UltimateMustacheX Month ago

    Gen II is my favorite gen, so I agree with all of these, though a few of the "get a new evo" I'm not sure about, just because I like the current form so much. Noctowl is my favorite flying type and Ledian/Ariados are both fairly high on my bug list. Then again, my favorite stage in a line is quite often the middle stage, so this would just keep that trend, assuming the new final stage didn't hook me as much. But then I'm stuck with lower stats if I want my preferred stage.
    Crobat is my favorite pokemon overall, so I'd like to see a cool regional form for it. But since Sneasel and Quagsire's (other top favorites) new forms were less appealing to me than their normal form, I'm assuming I'd be disappointed in the new bat.

  • d4c_reznor
    d4c_reznor 2 months ago +2

    Gamefreak may have forgotten Lugia, but the card game certainly didn't.

  • Suomi Kirby
    Suomi Kirby 2 months ago +28

    A teeny-tiny thing Meganium got recently, is that it's the mascot Pokémon of New Pokémon Snap and was one of those special Illumina Pokémon ...but I guess that's not much. Anyways, super fun video! I hope you make more of these for future generations! :)

    • Armuks
      Armuks Month ago +1

      Came down looking for this comment. I agree. True, it's not a new variant or mega, but it's still something. And yes, Snap wasn't made by Game Freak, so technically they did forget, but someone remembered. I think it deserves at least an honorable mention.

    • Cyberchao X
      Cyberchao X 2 months ago +3

      Yeah, that's true. Meganium hasn't gotten any love in mainline games but it was an Illumina Pokémon and was featured prominently on the box.

    • unbindall
      unbindall 2 months ago +5

      @R - G - C ​ Being a box legendary doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the mascot. In advertising, and even on the box itself, Meganium is treated as the main showcase for the Illumina phenomenon, treating all the others, Xerneas included, as spoilers. So yeah, mascot.

    • R - G - C
      R - G - C 2 months ago +3

      It's not even the mascot (that would be Xerneas), it's just kinda like a midboss.

    • Adam Morin
      Adam Morin 2 months ago +8

      I think he means in the main line generation games

  • Anime King
    Anime King Month ago

    I always been a fan of Ledian and Lantern too. Not gen 2 but I would love to see an Evo for Lumineon hopefully it looks like mix of Dragonair Milotic. Jynx needs an Evo too.

  • Mr. Banana
    Mr. Banana 2 months ago

    Every gen 1 Pokémon that got ignored is my favorite Mandjtv vid of all time and I’m soooooo happy you made a sequel

  • Emyr Lewis
    Emyr Lewis 2 months ago

    Tropius would make a great Pokémon that can evolve in the past but lost its ability to evolve in recent times. So a evolution in a Legends game would be awesome like Stantler had a evolution.

  • Que Aye
    Que Aye Month ago +1

    Meganium should be a grass dragon they need to add wings and it would be dope. Imagine a grass dragon who knows fire blast or solar beam . I think that concept would be dope. And I love dragon pokes

  • JFL Estudios
    JFL Estudios 2 months ago +1

    I think you forgot about the Kalos Starters. Greninja got his Ash-Greninja form, while Chesnaught and Delphox got nothing.
    And yes while Ash-Greninja technically doesn't exist in Scarlet and Violet right now, it still is another case of a region's starter getting a new form while the other 2 got nothing.

  • Kate Lundberg
    Kate Lundberg 2 months ago +54

    I can't believe I was gaslight into questioning whether Tropius was actually released in gen 2 and I just wasn't realizing it since, like Skarmory and Magcargo, it fits in almost better with gen 3 than gen 2. I had to look it up to realize that Tropius specifically fits better in gen 3 because it was released in gen 3, the other 2 were just kinda unutilized in gen 2 and more prominent in gen 3

  • Yuk Wing Wong
    Yuk Wing Wong Month ago +1

    Mikey,you should try out a fan game called infinite fusions,you can fuse any Pokémon you want and every single fusion is actually good and the creators putted a lot of work on these designs, there’s also a randomiser mode

  • Spectre
    Spectre 2 months ago

    It’s only a matter of time until we get 4 stage evolutions. That could potentially be when all the Pokémon who barely get any love can make a comeback.

  • Norman plays songs
    Norman plays songs 2 months ago +1

    I see you won't be doing forgotten pokemons for Hoenn any time soon. Like Johto, if we wait a little longer, we might get more evos and forms for the weak and forgotten ones.