Every Johto Pokémon Game Freak Forgot

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For what it's worth, Ariados was gifted a signature move in Gen 7 that would actually be a pretty solid move if given to a pokemon with better stats.

I really wish they would bring back the “baby Pokémon in the wild have 3 perfect IVs” thing. It really gave an incentive to catch and raise them.

I can actually see Sunflora's potential to evolve. I'd like to imagine Sunflora's evolution being a Grass/Fire type because it's a "sun" flower. Kinda like if Volcarona was a flower.

It's worth mentioning Unown did get a buff in Legends Arceus by changing how Hidden Power worked. Now it's not just one type, but it picks a type the opponent is weak to. That's a pretty giant buff, considering that's Unown's only move.

To be fair, Meganium was given a lot of focus in New Pokemon Snap and was even the mascot for that game's gimmick

Ash-Greninja is available through the Pokémon SM demo so...that was the truly first case of a starter getting a unique form while the others didn't

15:19 also giving Shuckle an evolution means that Shuckle will be able to use an Eviolite, making it's defenses even more insane

I would love to see Noctowl get the Dark typing. As a kid I remember hoothoot being so exciting because it was the first pokemon you could encounter that only spawned at night, something that wasn't present in the first games. I just thought that was so neat, so I think a Dark typing would be a nice nod to that.

Honestly Xatu is another one that would work really well as evolving into a ghost type. It already spends its time gazing into the past and future, you could give it like a "While trying to solve the mysteries of the past and future, this pokemon neglected its wellbeing in the present. Now that it's evolved, it's practically become one with the flow of time. Do wrong by it, and you might find yourself fading out of existence as it prevents your parents from ever meeting in the past."

Idea for Xatu evo:
Xanatu (based off the concept of Xanadu, but following the naming convention of its pre-evs)
Ghost/Flying
After having gazed into the future for so many years, it was finally able to peer into the afterlife. What it saw was so shocking, this pokemon passed away due to shock.

I think Skarmory didn't get a new evolution is because it would make Skarmory hold the eviolite, which boost the defense and special defense by 50% but only works if the pokémon can still evolve. Add the fact that it's only weak to fire and electric and its high physical defense and you get a Toxapex 2.0.

I was genuinely surprised Sunflora got nothing in gen 9. Especially since it had a focus from the grass leader. It could've absolutely gotten a new Evo in Scarlet and Violet.

Lugia and Luigi sound like they could be two box art legendaries.

Ever since jumpluff got in my scarlet team as a meme, but ended carrying my team, it will always have a place in my heart

If ledian were to get an evolution, just make its attack stat crazy, and buff its speed a little bit. The signature move could probably be a bug type punch move, so it could make iron fist worth it.

Im not really in favor to give Unown a new form myself, but it came to mind that they could make an "exodia" form. So if you have them all they could fuse together making a really strong, big pokemon with all letters. It would still just know hidden power though, but would have an intense increase in stats. Would also give you some kinda trophy to collect them all.

Lugia is the ultimate legendary along with Ho-Oh. Nothing is more ominous and exciting than those two in silver/gold. So mysterious and mystic and natural. Not a motorcycle, not a robot or alien, not a GMO, just a straight up flying creature from the depths of the ocean with a killer soundtrack

I'd love an evolution for Sudowoodo that has decorated itself with leaves and vines and is now a Rock/Grass type since it has incorporated enough plants to actually count as a plant. Kinda like how Bulbasaur and Paras have things growing from them and therefore gain the Grass typing.

I’d love to see Lanturn get a regional variant that’s Ghost/Water, having it be a guide for the souls of people who die at sea. A regional evolution on top of that would be awesome too.

A lot of the mons had an upgrade via the introduction of Hidden Abilities. Xatu was used because of Magic Bounce, Feraligatr was given Sheer Force and was able to acquire Dragon Dance. These, for me, were good upgrades.

The lore behind the creation of lugia is enough for me. I absolutely love lugia and once I found out the story behind it I'll never complain about lugia never getting extra attention

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Unown could have an ability similar to wishiwashi or zaygard, but it only activates if you have collected them all, just imagine you being beaten up by a cluster of Unown

16:51 Speaking of regional form, imagine an Australian Pokemon region where Octillery becomes Water/Poison based on blue-ringed octopus.

Personally, I've had an idea of Octillary evolving into a giant pirate ship that's also a giant squid, with canons under its suckers. I gave it the water/steel typing, and named it Kalarmada.

I know that gen 7 is in the past, but imagine an Unown Z-move that acts like no retreat and an actually good psychic attack
But it can only be used on Unown-Z

If they could make a Jhotolegends showing you how the tower burns down that would be cool. They could add in extras such as Xatu having an evolved form, feraligatr as a dark and water, or ground and water and Meganium with a Grass poison typing, while possibly adding adding in a starter from a different region to cover the 3rd pick. They could also add in ever evolutions with that due to the focus on eevee in Jhoto

For Ledian's evolution, I have an idea of going the Maushold route. Just have 5 of them with different colours. Lediam seems to have some Kamen Rider inspiration, so it would be cool for its evolution to have some Super Sentai inspiration. Also POWER OF FRIENDSHIP.

You can also use Shadow Lugia in Pokémon Go, which is also weirdly connected to the mainline for trading. It's specially important because it was probably the inspiration for the concept of all shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Go. Shadow Lugia could be seen as an upgrade to Lugia from a DPS perspective too. They should just make it canon as the alternative form in the mainline games since it has appeared in two pretty prominent spinoffs.

I hope that when Game Freak makes a Michigan-based Pokémon region, there will be a dark-flying type Blue Jay Pokémon because Blue Jays in nature are really big bullies, both figuratively and literally and they scream at the top of their lungs in order to drive other birds out of the feeders.

I know you counted getting the fairy type as special treatment for azumarill, but its also worth mentioning the fact that it was given the ability huge power in gen 3 when abilities were introduced. That plus the physical/special split in gen 4 made azumarill so strong. It's just been getting better and better over the years

17:40 Mantine did get a stat buff in gen 7, going from 65 base HP to 85 so not entirely forgotten

I think a shuckle evolution could totally be done. I've seen plenty of fanart out there of it and even drew one myself. Made it also fighting type and called it ShuckleDuster.

Unknown should DEFINITELY be part of a fetch quest like Spiritomb of gimmegouhl. Except in stead of collecting items or talking to people, I think you should have to catch one of each form of Unknown and then bring each one to a pokemon researcher. S/he will say "You have made a complete catalogue?! Oh Please would you give them all to me for research purposes? You would not be able to get them back..." If you say "Yes" then the researcher should let them all out of their balls at once, leading to them all swarming together in an orbit around mystical glowing energy (like in "Pokemon the Movie: Spell of the Unknown"). the researcher should then state that this pokémon is too strong for him or her and ask you to take it back. Thus you can receive the Unown- complete form. This should actually have good stats and a move pool to reflect their immense power.

Polities actually got a huge buff. In gen 5 It got the drizzle ability, summoning rain when it enters the field. Since weather was permanent in gen 5, Politoed skyrocketed in usage as the only rain setter. Later, however, Pelipper would outclass it in this role.

3:01 “Pidgeot being the only one to get anything”
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Wynaut was actually really important to making Wobuffett usable as it lets Wobuffett learn Encore which is huge since it takes away the need to predict what attack the opponent is using.

Mantine exactly gets the upgrade you asked for in Radical Red, where it is an Electric/Poison type. It's a pretty good mon too, with Storm Drain and solid stat distribution & movepool.

I used a Lanturn named Flicker on my main playthrough team of Shield, it was the first pokemon game I ever played beginning to end and I used the exact team all through the DLC as well (with the exception of replacing my Thievul with the gift Silvally from the battle tower). It's not my favorite pokemon but using it on my team definitely made me grow a soft spot for it, so I'd definitely be down to see it get some love. And, funnily enough, it stood out the most from the rest of my team, being the only one that had dual typing, a non-attacking move, was not in a regular pokeball, and was the last addition to my team before the champion. And surprisingly, despite its "meh" stats, it did manage to pull through for me in some really tough battles so I have Flicker to thank for that! If I were to use that same Lanturn again it'd be nice to see it get a well-needed upgrade so it can continue to be awesome.

Great video michael! Johto is probably the least forgotten gen overall, but id love to see videos like this with other (early) gens.

I think a fun regional form for shuckle would be flipping it's offensive stats with the defensive ones

I'm hoping they make a lot more Paldean forms for the dlc

I feel Ledian actually has the highest chance of any early route bug to get something. It just feels like it has more potential than the others

I don’t know if you’d count it as an upgrade but Forretress got access to Body Press in gen9, making it super dangerous 😮

I'm sure you already have ideas, but I was wondering if you could rate how well the original gen 1 mini sprites fit the actual Pokemon they're based on? Gen 2 as well, if you're feeling bold 😊

You mentioned how giving Sudowoodo an evolution/regional form would change too much because of its theme, so i think giving it a Convergent line would be perfect! You'd be able to make another sudowoodo without changing the original sudowoodo!

There’s a reason Rowlett, Oshawott, and Cyndaquil were the chosen mons to be starters. Each of their names hold a feudal Japanese reference in which Legends of Arceus was built around- feudal Japan. Not to discount the lack of love chikorita and todadile got but there were reasons.

Azumarill and Marill both got Huge Power as an upgrade in Gen 3. Arguably as important as the fairy type upgrade imo

I just saw a reddit post about how Furret should have a pop star evo, like a counterpart to Obstagoon, and I think thats a really fun idea. It could get a normal/fairy regional form

Sudowoodo could evolve into a felled sequoia or some other large tree, which gives it the ability to block a path pushed with strength. Wobbufet could see the “tail” aka the Pokémon itself become the main body and becomes more offensive based.

Dude you stepped up your game with this video. Quality, humor, great editing too

Forretress is a perfect candidate for a paradox form. It could be called iron blaster or iron cannon

The only upside I can think of for baby forms is they let some Pokemon be encountered earlier than they normally would and give the satisfaction of getting one more evolution as you play.
It's neat to, for example, get a Pichu at the start of SuMo and work with it to get it to Pikachu instead of just getting a Pikachu right off.
Azurill is another one like that, and I remember catching one early on in my Pokemon Y game to use as my Water type in a playthrough.
Better example might be something like Smoochum, since Jinx is almost always caught super late but Smoochum could be placed in the wild early, or Igglybuff, which you can get super early in SV, but Jigglypuff normally is an early/mid encounter instead of a route 1 encounter.
It's not a lot, but it's one purpose for baby forms, I guess!

I honestly thought sigilyph was going to be the evolution to zatu since it was released and still would make sense. They share similar move pool, inspiration in design and roles in battle. Only sigilyph is more powerful in use

I know they already had the dialga/Celebi time travel stuff in the mystery dungeon series but it just makes so much sense to tie them into scarlet and violet DLC with time travel being such a focal point of the games. Dialga is already featured in Legends Arceus and could be a great way to tie that in and Celebi could be used as a way to explain bringing the paradox Pokemon to the present

I always tell myself that all original 151 Pokemon (or atleast one in each evolutionary family) will have a new form (regional variant/mega evolution/ gigantamax) or an additional evolution before the franchise ends, but I hope Johto Pokemon will too.

I always liked the idea of a regional Noctowl that looks like a snowy owl and is Ice/Psychic. Hisui would've been a great opportunity for that

It is worth mentioning that lugia got a really playable card in the tcg that was so good that almost every non lugia deck in tournaments was a lugia counter deck

In all honesty I feel that Jynx does deserve a evolution since magmorator and electavire do exist within that trio

Vileplume and Bellossom were honestly perfect candidates for Megas, and I could see them being a really good regional form, or even version-based plot, like how Gordie and Melony were seperate gym leaders in SwSh.
Bellossom probably could have done well as a standalone Pokémon such as Stunfisk or Absol though.

I actually think an evo for Octillery could work really well. If you give it the same treatment as Dracopult where it can use Remoraids like guns it can pull out. Make it an armory of sorts, have it evolve into a squid even. So more tentacles, Remoraids stored in its body, and then it would come full circle with the whole "gun fish" motif.

I recall nicknaming my Ledyba/Ledian “Ledrior” a few times, and somehow tricked myself into thinking Ledrior was the name of a third stage. For that alone I’d be down for giving them a new evolution.

I think a cool Ledian getting a variant with the typing of bug/fighting would be cool and help its ability

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Sunflora should require a moonstone to evolve into a weak gloomy wilted kinda flower that when sunny day is up, becomes really powerful with amazing stats and moves.

It would be kind of interesting if they gave Ho-Oh and Lugia a third legendary counterpart. I always saw Ho-Oh as representing the Sun and the Sky. While Lugia was more of a symbol for the Moon and the Sea. Also one was associated with the Beast Trio while the other was related somewhat to the Bird Trio. So a third counterpart bird embodying the Earth as both the planet and the element could work and maybe make it relatively associated with the Swords of Justice Trio.

Gen 2 introduced so many cool pokemon, but so many either sucked in battle, or you just couldn't find them in a casual playthrough of the region. This is why I so want a remake of the Gen 2 games in some way, and with an interesting spread of the pokemon from that region so you can use them on your journey

for jumpluff, its not too bad though, because it has sleep powder and it has potential to be really fast if paired with a torqoal. it also learns tailwind and pollen puff, two amazing supportive moves (I really like pollen puff because its a very versatile move). it makes for a surprisingly good support pokemon if you can get it to not die. just set a harsh sunlight and give it a focus lens so it can hit sleep powder, and that's a potential strategy. still though, if its not 100 percent accurate, its not accurate at all, so yeah, sleep powder will be difficult. comment possible counters though, I'm always trying to improve.

Dragonite getting multiscale was great though. People overlook hidden abilities.

You must do Hoenn next! I think everyone is suprised that Milotic got nothing all these years.

Also, in regards to Unown... it needs a new moveset , as it only knows Hidden Power, and that move is not in Generations 8 and 9 (maybe 7 as well )

As a person who loved Misdreavus, you could imagine my excitement seeing Flutter Mane in Area Zero having never heard of it before playing the game.

I use ladian a lot in Pokémon stadium 2, if you transfer it into your game with a good move set it’s actually quite viable, you can go the spore route and use it as a stall Pokémon and just sleep, paralyze your opponent. You can also go with sunny day and solar beam direction along with giga drain and correct me if I’m wrong but I think it can learn fly and even hyper beam

Feraligatr is my 2nd favorite Pokémon behind Squirtle. A regional variation would be absolutely fantastic.

IMO a cool idea for a skarmory evolution would be an apex predator that can easily take down corviknight. I also think it should lean into the whole "feathers like swords" thing

Magcargo’s evolved form can be done through a metal coat trading.
Also, imagine if Smeargle gets different VARIANTS based on “creative” occupations. Like a defensive smeargle variant that can “cook” up new moves.

I'd love to see a new evo for smeargle, keeps same stats (maybe even lower all stats except for HP or something) and giving it a new ability were after it uses a move in it's move set it switches the entire moveset into a secondary moveset and after using one of the moves in that set it switches back. Call it "Palette Swap". Would just love to see it do something wacky with 8 moves but might be completly busted ahah

Idea for a Unown upgrade: A new ability called Power of the Unown. Gives Unown a 1 stage boost to all its stats equal to the number of Unown in the party (I.e. +1 to all if there’s 1 Unown and +6 if the whole team is Unown).

I think a good change for wobbufet (aka a regional form) is a wobbufet that is an extremely frail but really hard hitter that is really fast.

This video reminds me of a thought I had a while back.
Pseudo Legendaries are always 3-stage Pokémon in the Slow experience group with a 600 BST in their final stage. The most they've ever done to mix up the concept was a regional variant Pseudo Legendary with Hisuian Goodra.
If they wanted to mix things up, one thing they could do is a cross-generational evolution that retroactively turns an existing 2-stage line into a pseudo-legendary. There are tons of examples of 2-stage evolutionary lines in the Slow experience group they could do this with, such as Lanturn and Houndoom (incidentally, Mega Houndoom actually has a BST of 600, but sadly it's not a permanent evolution).

16:58 we already have GMAX Blastoise as a naval supercraft turtle/tortoise. Having an aircraft carrier turtle would be a bit redundant and likely get overshadowed by GMAX Blastoise if it happened too soon

I think it'd be cool if Unown could evolve if you had every form and maybe some item. Could turn into a book since it's just letters, maybe with more Unown swirling around it

Firstly, I'd like to mention Mantine DID get special treatment in Gen 7 with the Mantine Surf minigame…
And trust me, Crobat was definitely the center of my attention when I was trying to complete the Arkoos Pokédex…!
Had to catch the stupid guaranteed Alpha one cuz the Golbat I was trying to evolve refused to be my best friend!

Delibird and Stantler getting evos/forms has made me so unbelievably happy. Two of my favorite Pokemon. I also love both of Donphony

if smoochum could get a different evolution that was actually good then i feel like that would bring it justice, like a psychic fighting, its a same like jynx with the dancing but it incorporates its dance moves with fighting, and it could have a signature move thats like ballet lash or something, and it is a ribbion dancer with psyching energy whips

Furret is the only early route normal I used on my final team during my first playthrough of a game. I think ferrets are cool.

I am a massive fan of unown so would love to see it get something to make it usable. A paradox form I think could work would involve them being the thousand arms of Arceus and behave like a swirling vortex, think the heartless tornado in kingdom hearts.

Gen II is my favorite gen, so I agree with all of these, though a few of the "get a new evo" I'm not sure about, just because I like the current form so much. Noctowl is my favorite flying type and Ledian/Ariados are both fairly high on my bug list. Then again, my favorite stage in a line is quite often the middle stage, so this would just keep that trend, assuming the new final stage didn't hook me as much. But then I'm stuck with lower stats if I want my preferred stage.
Crobat is my favorite pokemon overall, so I'd like to see a cool regional form for it. But since Sneasel and Quagsire's (other top favorites) new forms were less appealing to me than their normal form, I'm assuming I'd be disappointed in the new bat.

Gamefreak may have forgotten Lugia, but the card game certainly didn't.

A teeny-tiny thing Meganium got recently, is that it's the mascot Pokémon of New Pokémon Snap and was one of those special Illumina Pokémon ...but I guess that's not much. Anyways, super fun video! I hope you make more of these for future generations! :)

I always been a fan of Ledian and Lantern too. Not gen 2 but I would love to see an Evo for Lumineon hopefully it looks like mix of Dragonair Milotic. Jynx needs an Evo too.

Every gen 1 Pokémon that got ignored is my favorite Mandjtv vid of all time and I’m soooooo happy you made a sequel

Tropius would make a great Pokémon that can evolve in the past but lost its ability to evolve in recent times. So a evolution in a Legends game would be awesome like Stantler had a evolution.

Meganium should be a grass dragon they need to add wings and it would be dope. Imagine a grass dragon who knows fire blast or solar beam . I think that concept would be dope. And I love dragon pokes

I think you forgot about the Kalos Starters. Greninja got his Ash-Greninja form, while Chesnaught and Delphox got nothing.
And yes while Ash-Greninja technically doesn't exist in Scarlet and Violet right now, it still is another case of a region's starter getting a new form while the other 2 got nothing.

I can't believe I was gaslight into questioning whether Tropius was actually released in gen 2 and I just wasn't realizing it since, like Skarmory and Magcargo, it fits in almost better with gen 3 than gen 2. I had to look it up to realize that Tropius specifically fits better in gen 3 because it was released in gen 3, the other 2 were just kinda unutilized in gen 2 and more prominent in gen 3

Mikey,you should try out a fan game called infinite fusions,you can fuse any Pokémon you want and every single fusion is actually good and the creators putted a lot of work on these designs, there’s also a randomiser mode

It’s only a matter of time until we get 4 stage evolutions. That could potentially be when all the Pokémon who barely get any love can make a comeback.

I see you won't be doing forgotten pokemons for Hoenn any time soon. Like Johto, if we wait a little longer, we might get more evos and forms for the weak and forgotten ones.