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Thanks for the review!!! I just picked up the 4000D airflow from best buy for $69!!! I was looking at others, but being able to get it with no Shipping and can take it back to them if I have a problem won! 😆 thanks again!!!
@Gamers Nexus I would like to see at least one case with a solid metal or better mesh side panel next time. There is a small group of people which don't like glass panels, me included.
Hey Steve Thanks for the review!!! How are the deepcool matrexx 55 mesh thermals and noise???
I know this is an old video, but I appreciate you highlighting the 5.25 bay. I Burn CDs onto my computer from discount stores and I use it enough to where a portable one doesn't work. Tank you GN, This is why I will always stay subscribed.
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I am so happy that PC case makers are focusing on Air Flow and not putting a solid piece of tempered glass in front of fans. Thanks for making manufacturers listen, Gamers Nexus
@Bob Motster True but Corsair 7000D airflow has side mesh panels and the Lian Li -11 Dynamic XL has side fan mounts as well
Yeah.. there were WAAAY too many cases that came out previously that had tempered glass with no air gaps for fans to get air, crazy
I still don't even like glass on cases. I really miss heavy metal cases with side intake. I have an HAF 932 Advanced with after market dust filters it' has 3 X 200 mm fan. Zero nose keeps 5900x at 40c all cores 100% wtih D15. yes i spent a ton on the noctua fans. But i'm getting water performance, and i don't want to use water.
i was actually so annoyed by this in the past, that 8 years ago i got enough and just said fuck it and build my own case with good airflow and filthers
yeah man, its normal for the people to buy a fully blocked Tempered glass or metal front covered chassis in cold climatic regions, but in tropical regions 😱😱🤣
For someone who has been around computers since the days of DOS and 5.25" floppies, and watched the advances in CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, SSDs, etc, I am absolutely baffled how something as simple as designing a case with great ventilation, good build quality, and ease of access can be so hard to find! Come on, how hard is it to meet those basic needs to enclose the PC components? It's truly sad (pathetic, actually) that the multitude of cases fall so short...
It's way too easy to screw over consumers, companies have zero reason to not
Just moved my pc into a Lancool 2 Mesh case this week. Really easy to build in and it turned out super clean. I'm in love with the various design features like the split side panels. Easily the best case I've ever owned.
I think the 4000D AF and 5000D AF are excellent top contenders. I’m replacing my 4000 with the 5000 because of 360mm AIO support, love both the look, size, and versatility of these two cases. More so the 5000 because of the versatility. The 4000d is more limited on AIO sizes and what not. Hence why I’m upgrading.
Another good option for a high-end full tower case with decent airflow would be the Phanteks Enthoo 719 (Luxe 2). It would've been interesting to see where it lands on the chart. All I know is thermals are like night and day compared to my be Quiet! DB Pro 900 r2 even with a liquid cooled system.
About time we have so many options for good airflow cases
Nice review! I would throw in the MetallicGear Neo Air as a nice alternative to the Phanteks P300A for budget cases. Is basically the same case with a different front panel. Comes with 2 Skiron RGB fans and I think the front mesh panel gives a unique look that I think has better aesthetics.
Fractal Meshify rise up
Just would be nice if we could have them without fans too. (even a none rgb choice)
Yup my second pc I’ll make sure I get everything right. My first pc was pre built, with push/pull radiator fans in the front. Thing is, there were no vents in the front/top/sides😂 inwin got me good
@Gamers Nexus clip-share.net/video/rNd80OWMwJ4/video.htmlbrother man what's thy best thermal airflow laptops and pls don't-cha y'all say it's the Dell M17 R3 alienware w/a RTX 2080. 😩😷Becuz that's nothing but overpriced hot garbage 🔥
I'm surprisingly impressed with how well my NZXT H510 keeps my components cool considering that it appears that there isn't much airflow through the front. Of course the fans it came with were inadequate (not even PWM) and there were only two so the first thing I did was purchase some new fans and removed the stock ones and put in four new ones. In retrospect I probably should have purchased the H510 Elite instead but if the quality of the fans in that case are like the ones in the standard H510 then I'm glad I am using the fans of my choice instead. With four quality case fans it does move air quite well and my CPU and video card temps are much lower than they were with the stock case fans. It's a good looking case too. I got the black case and my theme is black with dark blue steady RGB and it looks sweet.
Have both the H500 + Meshify S2 and am extremely satisfied with both of them. The s2 is incredible for those of us who like to shove as many fans as humanly possible into a case and run them at a constant 30-40% speed even under extreme workloads.
I have the NR600, awesome case, I’d recommend putting additional finer dust filters in front of your intake fans. I salvaged mine from an old nzxt tower case
I've loved high airflow cases since I built a rig inside a Corsair Air-540, and I don't think I'll ever go back. Happy to see the design emphasis getting some love across the board, including budget options.
I just wanted to say ty for the case reviews. I use your videos as the standard when I’m picking a PC case for the next build. I really appreciate your attention to detail and data driven reviews. Never doubt the work you do. You the man Steve.
Moved my system over to a Meshify C recently. Im very happy with it so far, and the 3900x stays relatively cool even with the stock cooler.
Great video - thank you.I love the *idea* of the P500A, but I just can’t unsee the front fan mount issue every time I look at it 😢. Wish they’d have kept the front panel and fan mounts the same as the P400A. If they had it would have been an instant buy for me. I’m probably learning towards the Lancool 2 Mesh now..
I have the CoolerMaster H500 plain mesh case recommended by Steve last year. I didn't know how bad the first CM H500 models were, thanks for the history lesson! I couldn't be happier with my build, the 2x200mm front fans run silent and push a ton of air when needed.
I bought the same case for my 1st build. I really like it. Very quiet. I added 1 200mm fan on top to help pull the hot air out.
I'd claim it's fair to say you personally kinda pioneered the whole push towards actual case improvements over the last years, and I have to thank you for that, you were the voice of sanity speaking for so many of us, thanks!
Until there's 4x200mm, or 6x180mm silverstone penetrators, none of this means anything.
What are you talking about man? Rgb helps me focus on playing fortnite while I stream some sik vids on tik tok and watch the peons weep. Glow beats blow every time
@md I get the joke 100%, but on the other hand it's also kinda disrespectful because it ignores how much he's had to work to have all this influence. That's what he should be praised for.
...Or maybe it was because of tough competition? When everyone had flashy, glass cases, manufacturers needed to figure out something to gain edge over competition and quality of the case was obvious next step to focus on.
Steve is a LEGEND
I think in all future case reviews you should include the height above the motherboard for people wanting to use an aio, particularly referring to the artic freezer 2 with its thick radiator. planning a new build and finding a case that will fit the freezer 2 has been difficult. Looks like the p500a will be my new front runner unless something better comes along. Thanks.
I wish you would do a review of the NR400. It's considerably different from it's bigger cousin NR600, not just a smaller version of it. And those differences tend to be positive, like having a removable HDD cage, and I suspect the smaller size would make the two stock fans work much better.
I have used my original cooler master HAF 932 for about a decade and love it. Was my go to case for building for my friends. Great airflow, upgrade ability , good build quality and was priced right.
Can vouch for the H500 mesh fronts. Smashing case, looks great, good airflow when paired with a Noctua cooler. I can also vouch for being VERY careful about which one you order...
A couple of years ago when I built my first pc the case was an afterthought,shortly there after getting addicted to everything hardware I also became really addicted to looking into cases(currently building one from scratch with my father as a side/passion project)since then I've noticed a huge improvement in the market and honestly I feel you guys had a huge influence on that movement with your videos,thank you.
Got a Thermaltake Core V21 because it was cheap, fell in love with it because it's dead easy to work in and shockingly versatileThe fact it comes with a giant 200mm fan installed stock is great, also it has no 5 1/4 inch bays
@BrocoliColonist Take a look at the Gamemax Razor extreme ARGB fans, look good and move quite a lot of air.
There were some cases with decent airflow when I bought my last case in 2014. The problem was they always seemed to have the 5.25″ drive bays, which really got in the way. They also lacked a compartment for the PSU and didn't really pay any attention to cable management options.
Seth Kauffman spent $65 on an Antec P82 with 4 140mm fans. Decent quality, cheap, keeps my R5 w/ stock cooler lukewarm.
@Seth Kauffman I am a student so it would take me a lot of time to get enough money cause all my money is being spent to fuel my education 😅
I've largely been out of paying attention of where cases have gone since 2011 when I build my current PC but seeing emphasis on aesthetics over performance/function on so many cases over the last few months has done my head in but so has the popularity of RGB. Lack of cable management aside and other annoyances aside it, if it weren't for it being so out of date I'd consider reusing my old Storm Scout case. The Lancool II Mesh review pretty much sold me on it, hope it's in stock and the price isn't jacked up when I do my new build this Fall.
Love the trend towards 3x 140mm intake fans. Curious how much of a difference in noise btw 120mm and 140mm @ 36dba. 120mm has been "the way to go" I believe bc of trend towards cramped midtower designs.
Props to you for highlighting cases with 5.25" drive bays. I plan to build my own PC in the next little while and my case has to have a drive bay (or two) simply to have the ability to add an internal card reader. I prefer SD cards to cables when transferring files (especially photos from my camera), so yeah a drive bay is a must.
Thermaltakes V21 is an excellent case. Just remove the foam in the front and can even custom modify to get an atx in it leaving one of the sides off.
Using a Fractal Design Meshify C with the foam filter removed and it really help with temps and noise. The filter did its job just fine but was choking the fans a lot so they had to run harder to cool my system.
I still am using an Antec P280 after 8 years... I really want to upgrade the case to something that has more airflow and better features. So your reviews and lists are incredibly helpful. Please keep them coming.
Still rockn a corsair 450d. The best case Ive ever owned in terms of airflow & dust management etc. The first time I went to clean this rig was almost 2 years after the build. I was shocked by how it hardly had any dust build up. With these two factors being so good there really is no point in ever getting another case lol
I loved this comparison. Sad the P600S isn't on the list as it's the case I've been looking at for a while since I was unable to find the P500 isn't available in any of the stores in my country.So now it's a comparison between the P400A and the P600S.Price vs Style.
Really appreciate the effort that you put into airflow oriented cases. It’s sad that a lot of the most well known cases are terrible for airflow/temperatures.
I'm looking to build a computer this year for a friend this year with integrated graphics (Maybe if they allow the 4600G(E) to be sold to consumers). It would be great to see a round-up of the good micro-cases available.
I credit this channel for the massive amount of high airflow cases! I'm confident that without this channels amazing work the case manufacturers would have just offered good looking cases with poor airflow!Great work and definitely one of my favourite channels to watch!
Would be awesome to see a review of the Montech AIR X ARGB. It has 2x 200mm argb fans and a 120mm rear exhaust installed, argb / pwm hub with extra ports, and all of the cutouts and cable routing areas seemed really good for around 80$ US. I swapped out a friends build with one when he realized that tempered glass doesn't breathe well, and he keeps telling me how much better everything runs lol.
My previous pc had a very cheap CM mid tower with a 140mm front intake. Added a 120mm exhaust to it and it is thermally OK.Inside is a Radeon R9 380 and an FX8350.Surprisingly well aged system.Currently wanting a O11 purely for its flexibility. Intenting to customize the glass panels with some etched images as well as building it for a watercooled system.Luckily haven't had enough rgb to get an allergy, so gearing the system towards that.Build for me will start when the new amd products release. Currently just laying the foundation for what's coming.
Thank you for this Steve and GN staff. I’ve been watching and rewatching your case videos the last couple days in an effort to find a suitable replacement for my Antec P280.
I had one of the variants. That thing is a beast.The build quality was on point. 👌
really like the detailed and in depth version of the case, going over pros and cons. Keep up the good work
I wouldn't be surprised if the 5.25" bay is more often used as an expansion panel (e.g. card readers, audio jacks, USB jacks, hotplug 2.5" drives) than for actual optical drives. In fact, case manufacturers could probably get away with reducing the bay clearance as long as they properly label it, though I could also see it being a customer support issue regardless.
Would love to see a review of the Phanteks P600S, specifically comparing the case in silent mode and high-performance mode vs the P400A or the P500A in terms of cooling performance and noise. I ask this because the P600S in high-performance mode (front panel cover removed) has a more open mesh but then a dust filter underneath, so I'm wonder if that would be a detriment to performance over the straight single mesh front panel of the P400A/P500A. Anyway, great video and great job in general in reviewing and comparing so many cases. Thanks!
I've mentioned this to them as well and I got the response "It's too old, we're not going back for it". I agree though. I love mine and I think it should be shared with consumers as another top of the line option. As long as you have the filters clean, this case performs so well in either configuration. I personally keep my panels off for extra flow, because I'm OCD like that. The panels are also great customization options for those brave enough to do some metal etching or even cutting designs all the way through (obviously losing noise dampening performance).
Yeah i paid $200 for the H500m January last year for my build and i love it. There weren't that many options for air cooling that actually worked and had usb 3.0 and type c. Only thing i miss is the optical bay
5.25 in slots are not only for ODD or hot swap drives they are also a great way to mount a res/pump combo. Used to have a bay-res in a carbide air and they tend to be cheap and easy to manage.
I credit GN for showing me how much my standard phanteks p400 (non-a) was hurting my thermal performance. I was able to buy the p400a front panel direct from phanteks to replace the closed off stock one and have since seen a massive improvement in temperatures.
I'm happy with my fractal meshify S2 that I got for 85$ from special sale in Finland. 3x stock fans in front for intake and one noctua NF-A 14 PWM for back. And thermalright 2x140mm(PWM max.1300rpm) dualtower for R9 3900X. No need to upgrade.
Thanks for the great video. I'm looking for a case right now and I'm torn between the P300A, P400A, TD500 and 500DX. I'm not sure which I'll end up getting but I'm happy we've got cases with mesh panels now!
Recently swapped from my CM Trooper to the Phanteks Evolv X. Trooper had some insane airflow, 2 120mm side fans 2 120 mm and 1 140mm front with a 200mm top fan and 1 140mm back fan. Still ... the Phanteks chassis is just incredible. Also on the Trooper note, that terrible coating on the plastic is the worst idea ever, please never use that ever again. After ~7-8 years it becomes extremely sticky and nasty all of a sudden.
Even though the P500A is larger and easier to work in, the removable top in many Phanteks cases are gems and something i fail to understand why not other manufacturers do.It's just to bad Phanteks can't produce enough cases for the market. At least not here in Europe. Their distribution quality is on par with what Lian Li was back on the 90's and 2000 era. In other words, fucking awful. Proper airflow, good fan controllers, removable top and wide enough to support up to 168mm coolers. That's basically all we need. I do not care if there is a handle on top of the case or if it is without RGB, I can sort that myself. My cases are stationary anyway.
what i would really like to see would be a case "foundation style" for an external water cooling solution. with a nice water reservoir, ultrasilent pump and fans 2x 360 or 2x 480 radiators.And you can just put your "midi" case on it, most thermal and noise problems removed from the mainboard.powder coated or glossy, white, black brushed grey /metal...Aquacomputer has build some really high end "cooling towers" with all equipped hardware and software and great looks... but... they started around 600 bucks upward.i can (and do) build my own external stuff but this of course makes it a lot more expensive.
I went with a cool-looking case with side glass that opens like a door so I just open it during gaming etc and it makes the temps go down like 10 for CPU 20 for GPU. Kind of insane.
I bought my NR600 for €49 six months ago (shipping fees included), added 4 high quality Arctic fans (3 static pressure front, 1 airflow back) for a measly €23 and I'm f-ing set. GREAT prices, GREAT investments!!
I would be curious to see how a budget case I found for my son's gaming pc (Montech X1 White for $57) would do in your tests. It comes with what looks like great air flow including 4 stock fans.
Thank you so much for doing these roundups. I'm usually the one my friends contact for pc builds/upgrades and I can't always look at several 20+ minute long videos for each component. These videos save me hours every time.
Interested in the H500, but I worry that the lack of lateral 200mm fan will affect my air flow. I think it looks cool but performs worse than the HAF922/HAFX.
Do a medium form factor case shootout next please! I’m really interested to see if they can max these giant towers in thermals.
Love the integrity of manufacturers really trying to bring better products to the market and openly exposing themselves to critique.
i would love to see a round up of cases that have great cable management in mind. because some of these airflow cases are horrible for building in.
5.25" drive bays are honestly a rather valuable feature for those who need it, so always nice to see that support being mentioned when it exists.Now, optical disk drives is frankly only one portion of what this bay can be used for.Custom front panel IO is another thing. (instead of needing to remake/mod the case front, one can simply build/buy a small module to just slot into place and get whatever ports one needs.)Another use is to buy a hard drive cage, with either 4-6x 2.5 inch drive trays for each 5.25" drive bay. Rather nifty if one builds a storage server and needs a relatively neat setup with hot swappable drives. (downside is that these drive cages costs like 50-100 USD)Then there is also 5.25" LTO drives...
Which is why I've never really shifted away from using them. :/ It's frustrating how 5.25 bays have become so rare in the 5 years or so that I've had my current rig. If I knew ahead of time, I would have just grabbed some spare cases before their production ended.For my coming build, I'm probably gonna have to drop the optical drive just to stick with my specialty audio I/O panel, if I can't anything with more than 1 5.25 bay.
Love the airflow in my full tower Phanteks Enthoo Pro. Low temps and very very little dust with positive airflow.
Hmm, airflow is finally a thing again. Still rocking my Corsair 750D airflow edition. The only things its missing is tempered glass and RGB. Has plenty of space for drives and fits my needs. The only case i would consider as a replacement at the moment would be a phanteks 719
GN I appreciate your WORK! You guys put out great content and earn your money/subscriptions. The effort you guys put in to these videos isnt matched very often! Thank you!
I love my P400S (w/ P400A front panel) case.looks great, has ton of accessibility. airflow much better with the p400a panel
Cooler Master is honestly my favorite brand for cases. They're always super easy to work with and you really get a lot for your money.
I would like to know how these cases compare to standard old-school cases. By that I pretty much just mean 2x80mm intake, 2x80mm exhaust and a top-mounted PSU. I may or may not be still using this setup in 2020.
I got the NR600 based on your video and it's been great. I my temps have dropped and I enjoy the minimalistic look. Best of all, it was only $69.99.
I would really like to see how the new Corsair 4000D Airflow stacks up against these.
Hey nexus I'm new to PCs and wanting to build my first PC. I just have a few questions, would you recommend a full tower vs a mid? I'm planning on running a liquid cpu cooler and I just want to make sure I have enough room so I can properly mount the radiator and still have room to work without it feeling cramped. Love the content and your videos have helped alot!
The 5.25" front bay is really for additional usb ports, type c, type a, QC3.0, hot swap drive slots, whatever. The default front panel controls really should be a 5.25 bay slot, that one can just replace when needed.
Thank you! I got a P500A based on your recommendation. It was the only one with proper top 320mm/280mm rad support. I can't wait coming from a Fractal Design R6.
Has GN ever tested the assertion that the fine mesh "lets plenty of air through." You might be shocked by the tradeoff between mesh pitch and airflow. Fine mesh might allow adequate flow but it's still very restrictive.
I would have loved for you to throw the Silverstone Raven 02 in there just for a comparison to see how good these cases really are. I have a Silverstone Fortress 02 that I have been building in for years and it seems like those two cases still are in the running with today's cases.
You could still cut away a lot of metal behind those front fans on the CM H500. After all, fan blades go the fastest at their periphery, so produce the most airflow there. Sad to see most of that area is blocked in that case.
I had an Antec 900 for years, no glass panels and a ton of venting in the front, back, and top! And dont forget the huge 200 mil fan on top either. It was an ugly case in today's standards but kept it all cool. But was a dust magnet! I was continuously cleaning everything, just like your going to have to do with the new mesh panel cases! Good luck
I've got a Frankencase - built out of a Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced and bits of an Antec 900. I think I get decent airflow out of it as it has more fans than a thing that has a lot of fans in it. Two intake, one rear outlet, all three of those 120mm/140mm, and two massive 200mm ones at the side and top. I'm not sure it's really worth buying another case as yet.
Darkflash has that weird case that looks a lot like a meshify C and it’s actually pretty good. I did a build for a friend in one and it works really well
So much effort put into these videos it's amazing.... Even the "SHOW MORE" portion is amazingly detailed.... This dude deserves big success for being so detailed and knowledgeable.
I bought the cooler master td500 case based on your recommendations and I absolutely love it. Thank you for a very informative channel.
Thank you guys its always nice to have such a quality roundup of case's. Do you think you will include the Cooler master NR200 in the next one? i got recently interested in SFF and it seems to be by all means a good SFF beginners case in budget and build volume. Don't forget we love You, the hair and most importantly the graphs
I'll be going for the be quiet! Pure Base 500DX, when build time comes. Ticks all the boxes for me, i.e. good airflow, good noise reduction, ideal size for my need, and looks fantastic. Also considering the Phanteks P500A and Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, which cool slightly better, but aren't quite as visually striking as the 500DX imo.
Same here! The 500DX totally sold me.
i still have that noctis 450 in one of my systems (the airflow option of the h440) the build quality and functionality still top, thanks for all the hard work
I got a P400A based on the Best of 2019 review and I've been super happy with it. However I opted to get the cheaper non-RGB version, put a 240 reservoir up front and two 140 fans on top and it runs nice and quiet and never breaks 70
I did the same thing but went with Noctua NF A12 x25 for intake and its like a dream.
I like that you're highlighting cases with 5.25" optical drive bays. I still watch a lot of bluray movies and I like using my computer so I can stretch the image to the dimensions of my ultrawide, and use headphones. I am so close to buying that be quiet! 500dx but it lacks a 5.25". Don't think there's enough room to jam one in the bottom of the case either, unless I remove the hard drive bays which I need.
Get yourself a usb CD drive and download the videos onto your pc it saves your case from having an ugly CD drive
Corsair A540x. 7 years ago. I just keep building into it over and over. Run it with a Noctua Dual Tower CPU cooler and 5x 140mm fans. The hard drives, PS and cables are on back side.Probably the easiest/fastest case to build in on the market.
I recently picked up the Cougar MX-330-G ATX case for $50 at Newegg. Mesh front panel, 5.25" drive bay, and tempered glass panel. I needed a 5.25" for my Blu-ray burner. I wanted a front-panel USB-C jack but didn't want to pay an extra $100 for that feature.
despite your review I bought the air variant of the Lian Li dynamic case and im impressed with the amount of options it gives me for fan mounting. luckily, the case fits my needs as I have the corsair h115i plat which is mounted on the front as an intake, Three 120mm intake fans and three 120mm exhaust fans. Even though everyone including the internet says its not a good case, thermals are noticeably better than my previous case, the Fractal Meshify C.
@Stiprus garsas In an ideal world everyone would have the time to do the proper research but that’s not always the case. Steve does an incredible job of summarizing multiple product reviews/comparison into 20 minute videos.
Actually that is what you should be doing - lots of research on the parts you are going to be building your system with.
TBH, I really like you guys, I had been followed your channel a long time, all those reviews are helpful and useful, you are the source that i trust to and would like to reference on. It's hard to find honest and professional people like you, I wish this channel can be continue forever, get more exposed and continue to bring good affection into the society and earn a lot of money, you guys are hard-working and amazing.
Switched from a Corsair Carbide Spec-03 to Phanteks P400A (non digital) a few months ago & couldn't be happier. Great airflow & looks amazing. Money well spent.
Thanks Steve, from a member of the "needs 5.25 bay" crowd. I do really appreciate the highlighting of these cases, it is indeed a selling point. I wonder if any manufacturers will figure out that they could fit a slimline optical bay and please everyone...
@john beer Yeah. I liked the modular approach of my Fractal Design Define R5... if I want, I have 8 3,5" bays. And 2 5 1/4" bays. If I do need the space for water cooling, I can remove some or all of those. I can chose. I'm not so keen on water cooling, so I have space for storage. But now every case designer seems to think all people will do is use water cooling. Hopefully, if GN designs a case, they think of those using air coolers too. And those wanting storage.
@kadajawi Agree. They aren't going to give us proper drive bays back though, so all of us with full size drives and accessories that fit those bays are on our own. My current PC is on an open bench but I need to case it up and i'm doing so in a 20 year old case... lol. I just... it annoys me that no case manufacturer has seen that they could put a slimline drive vertically oriented, and so that the body would be behind the "motherboard tray" in 99.99% of cases and not affect ANYTHING else the case does, like a 5.25 inch drive kinda gets in the way of watercooling a bit
Since I already have a full size 5.25 Blu-ray-drive I have no intention of replacing... meh? But it'd be better than nothing, yes, and for someone building a new system it'd be a viable choice.
I bought the bequiet case, its great but it was my first time with a modern case, I struggled connecting the sata/2.5 drives on the left mount as I couldn't clip them in so had to use the right hand mount. Sound is great on it though and you have to know its on to hear it.
Thanks for this awesome round up review. I ended getting the Fractal Meshify C and am very happy with the cooler temperatures I am reading, compred to my old case :D
I've got the NR600. It's a pretty nice relatively low-cost basic case for someone who just wants a case without a lot of bling and just wants airflow. I've also got 3 120mm fans for intakes and repurposed one of the included fans as a top exhaust to supplement the existing rear one. Airflow has been exceptional, so much so that it barely makes a "whoosh" when running heavy tasks. Really happy to have picked it despite some of its compromises, the PSU filter being one of which. It does the job fine but it's also slightly more of a pain to remove, clean and reattach.The fact that it also combines the NZXT H500 design (that I've really been fond of) with very high airflow sealed the deal for me.
@Duy Khanh Tran I'm using NH-D15S and still have a bit space between glass and top of heat-pipes with fan about the same level. The problem with NH-D15 may be fans height which I'm not sure you can shift it down a bit or not
@Duy Khanh Tran I have a Cooler Master NR600. I am using a Noctua NH-U12A cooler, which is bigger than the U12S and cools within 2% of the NH-D15. And the height of the cooler is such that it is close to the tempered glass, but absolutely no actual problems here! I think the height of this cooler is very similar to yours, so if you look up the numbers and they are roughly the same height coolers, then go for it!
I have the nr400. I dare to say it's a better case, since it's not just a smaller nr600, but has some other differences, like a removable HDD cage. Also, smaller size seems to improve the thermals a little bit if you keep the stock fans (the front fan blows directly over the GPU). If you don't mind using mATX, it's a very compelling product.
@Duy Khanh Tran I'm using a dark rock pro 4 in mine. it's a 163mm cooler and I think I'd have trouble getting away with any taller.
Hell yes! I have the NR400 and I'm very happy with the case. I bought it because of GN's review.
I really wish more manufacturers switched to using 2x200mm front intake fans rather than 3x120mm. Bigger fans spinning slower = less noise without sacrificing cooling.
Have you guys considered doing videos or write ups on the optimal placement/amount of fans for best cooled in each case? It’d be super interesting to me so I won’t have to guess.
Bought my first ever case (nzxt h710) awhile ago and tbh i was getting the case cause of the 2 rgb strips and nice looking tempered glass but now my PC gets hot and i wish i knew about the lian li O11 dynamic, such a beautiful looking case with good airflow
Got the NR600 because of your review. I live in a very hot city (usually we get 25-30 C, this summers we reach 49 C) and I needed the flow without expending too much and not going for water cooling (my build was about $600) and I love it, looks way less cheaper than in the photos and building on it was pretty good aside with dealing with the Power Supply cables if you don't connect them before putting the PSU. I have a RX 580 and a Ryzen 2600 and they never go over 75 with just the 2 stock fans
Lian Li is really something. They listened to their consumers thus the improvement of their products.
I do wish a lot of cases hadn't taken such a hit in the looks department after the high airflow trend got started. No case to this day can really match the look of the Corsair 570X, in my opinion at least.
On the Meshify C, I removed the secondary mesh dust filter. Much improved thermals.
I bought the td 500 mesh. Super happy.... that said I’m a lil envious of those 140mm fans (especially the exhaust) in the p500a. I did put the extra 140mm noctua fan from the chromax d15 on the top back though. 🤷♂️
Has GN ever considered using the same brand+number of fans for every case? I feel like the way reviews are done now do a good job of measuring the relative performance compared to price, but they don’t do a great job at measuring the relative performance compared to other cases. Since it seems as all of the ‘best cases’ are simply the ones with the most holes and the most fans included, but some cases that were harped on for not having decent base thermals often performed better with full fan slots. Perhaps it’s too much work (and I’m more than happy with these reviews already) but it feels like these reviews are more aimed at being fair than being practical and relative to their intended use case scenario. I’ve always felt companies included fans for the people on a tight budget not accommodating extra fans, but I don’t think they’re necessarily intended to be the primary use case for any pc. Idk man, good video tho, from one Steve to another
Just ripped the inner mesh out of the front of my Fara R1 (white). It appears to actually be melted into the (ABS?) plastic behind the front metal mesh area, including a number of the ridges behind the hexagonal plastic areas. Wasn’t too hard to remove even while the system was running. Does leave some rough ridges behind but barely noticeable and nothing visible from the outside.
I wanted to recommend the cougar mx330 as a budget sort of case, it's got a dvd thing I think, window side panel, decent airflow and 1 120mm fan. I'm gonna build a pc but I'm here tryna find an alternate tho bc it's not in stock and might not be for a while which is stupid