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Do You NEED Faster Ethernet?

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    What's the point of routers and switches that only have one Ethernet port above 1 Gbps, such as a 2.5 Gbps, 5 Gbps, or 10 Gbps port?
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  • エヴァンゲリスタレイアン

    During the early 2000s, my friend and I were discussing if buying an 80Gb HDD makes sense over a 40Gb one. "Are we even gonna use that much space?" we asked ourselves.

    • Jxcxbx
      Jxcxbx 9 days ago

      Just to think soon enough for me to be uncomfortable petabytes will be normal

    • Etheoma
      Etheoma Month ago

      Na at that time I was always like MOUR SPACE!!! but I did think to myself when I bought 2x1TB drives in like 2009 or something that I wouldn't need to upgrade until they broke... now I have 1x 6TB drive 1x 3TB drive and a 1TB SSD and am thinking about buying a second 6TB drive although it did take me years to fill my other 6TB drive so that will probably last me quite a while.
      Although saying that I have had the 3TB drive for long enough that I should probably just retire it and replace it with a 6TB drive.

    • David Eyres
      David Eyres 3 months ago

      Ahh the good old days, the first server we put together at work had 800mb ESDI drive with netware els ii. This was when 10 mb drives were the norm for pcs. No plug and play so you had to set memory and Dma with jumper switches and “compile” the drivers to work with said settings.

    • Gary Burgin Jr
      Gary Burgin Jr 3 months ago

      Those were the days my friend..

    • hammer fall
      hammer fall 3 months ago

      10TB is not enough for all my JAV collections these days especially with the leaked 4K uncensored size.

  • Mr. Mul
    Mr. Mul 4 months ago +794

    1 Gbps seems big until you convert bit to byte.
    1 Gbps = 125 MB/s
    If you have Home NAS that being used intensively by a lot of people at the same time, 2.5 Gbps will be useful.

    • TheOnlyTwitch.R6
      TheOnlyTwitch.R6 3 months ago

      @9peppe what year is this, 2008?
      Sata 3.0 (aka sata 3) has capped at 6gbps for like 13 years now. When factoring in for encoding that data, the sustained writes are around 600MB/s.

    • paul maydaynight
      paul maydaynight 3 months ago

      @mx2004mx "only" as in most of your collected videos etc are only moving in the most used lan side

    • paul maydaynight
      paul maydaynight 3 months ago

      @9peppe your point being a hypothetical -as they dont make them in retail- direct connected 2.5 Gbps ethernet connected single sata nas will not max out the generic oldest spinning rust sata inside? -ignoring the current M2 x4 drives etc- 8bits/1byte -aka the 1Gbit/s, & 2.5 Gbps ethernet Is the bottleneck there even today-

    • Rednassie
      Rednassie 3 months ago

      I have a 10Gbit connection between my NAS and my PC and it can still be improved (but it always can haha)

    • Mike Gorman
      Mike Gorman 3 months ago

      @Verdict Gg I agree with you though I would say that preserving the "kilo" makes more sense than keeping kibi for any reason. Base-2 is necessary for binary mathematics and numeric representation in semiconductors and computers, but nothing about it is necessary for how many of those base-2 devices are present. Nothing in manufacturing devices that store those bits, nor transfer rates since both of those things can and are literally built by adding singular bits to any given device. "kibi", "Mibi", "Gibi" are the figurative equivalent of the imperial system of computing, utterly pointless. They might as well be called "foot-bytes", "yard-bytes", "furlong-bytes".

  • Aura
    Aura 4 months ago +386

    I was really surprised when i found out my MSI tomahawk B550 had a 2.5G port, when I got on the new modem/router combo which usually I'd avoid and it also had 2.5G out and decent wifi 6? like wow! I see burst speeds in the 1.1 range on my 1 gig plan

    • nutritious mush
      nutritious mush Month ago

      we have 10gbps plan for $280 per month.
      10gb upload and download
      = 1250MB/s or 1.250 GB/s
      and Data unlimited.
      1gbps are for $55 per month.

    • ricky v
      ricky v 2 months ago +1

      @Aura Solid! That’s cool to read. It’s fun realizing how much more performance you can get with newer hardware. (:

    • Aura
      Aura 2 months ago

      @oappi I believe my downlink is docsis 3.0 and just there isn't much traffic I usually get 950-1050 MBit/s
      My uplink is only 2.0 which sucks I miss symmetrical fiber I was on before

    • Aura
      Aura 2 months ago +1

      @ricky v yeah I'm hooked up to 2.5g port and it works

    • Aura
      Aura 2 months ago

      @Zugashii yeah did my research for best vrm motherboard for cheap and don't regret it working great.
      Raid 0 was a bit of a pain to setup for nvme tho

  • Максим Нечай
    Максим Нечай 4 months ago +412

    I think that worldwide 2.5gbit internet plans are really rare (anything above 1gbit). So it is more common and useful to have 2.5gbit lan ports instead of wan for access to home server or ect.

    • Etheoma
      Etheoma Month ago

      Eh we have 1 Gigabit plans here which usually you end up actually getting 1.18G and then it's nice to have the spare capacity for local media sharing at the same time.

    • Killertruth186
      Killertruth186 2 months ago

      @Generic Scottish Channel Ah, I had forgotten about those type of towns.

    • Generic Scottish Channel
      Generic Scottish Channel 2 months ago +1

      @Killertruth186 You think that's little? I only get 30 *_MEGABIT_*

    • Peter Sørensen
      Peter Sørensen 3 months ago

      @Litego Lets say you make a LAG of two 1 Gbps ports, that gives you two links each capable of a maximum of 1 Gbps.
      You'll benefit from multiple connections, but a single download / stream of data will still be limited to 1 Gbps.
      So yes! They should feel shame for not including 2.5 Gbit LAN ports.

    • Litego
      Litego 3 months ago +1

      Sure, but this was a router, you could connect this to a 2.5 Gbit switch with link aggregation from the router to take advantage of all that juice. If that router does not support link aggregation it's a dumpster fire and they should be ashamed of themselves for making a 2.5 Gbit router with 1 Gbit LAN ports. Actually, they should feel shame regardless for not including at least one 2.5 Gbit LAN port.

  • SuperWhisk
    SuperWhisk 4 months ago +16

    I recently improved my home’s networking from “single do everything box from the ISP” to my own firewall/router, a switch, and two wireless access points. I went with gigabit because finding 2.5Gb equipment is so difficult. There’s still not that many options out there for things like managed switches or even NICs from well supported (on OSs other than windows) brands like Intel.

    • Driveformer
      Driveformer 3 months ago

      TPlink Omada.
      You basically need to go prosumer a lot of the time.

  • Fredrik Thorsen
    Fredrik Thorsen 4 months ago +15

    They should've mentioned Link Aggregation (LAG) here as well. If you have one device which lots of users/devices connect to, such as a NAS, LAG is a lot cheaper. Take the scenario with a NAS with movies. If more than one person is using the NAS, it's capped out at 1GB for a standard 1GB network. If you create a LAG with 2x1GB links between the NAS and the switch, you won't achieve 2GB speeds for a single (2.5,5,10 GB) client, but two 1GB clients can saturate the LAG. This means that the NAS can push twice the amount of data to multiple clients without any cost to upgrading your gear (as long as you have free ports on the NAS and switch, and that both support LAG). I've done this myself at home, until I take the 10GB plunge. But right now I really don't have a usecase for 10GB network as long as I run the NAS in LAG (and it supports 4x1GB LAGs).

  • いろいろ
    いろいろ 4 months ago +7

    I thought 2.5GBASE-T is totally useless because none of my equipment does not support the standard.
    Then, I recently noticed that: 2.5 and 5 Gbps are good tradeoff point on the power consumption v. line rate curve if you are sticking to RJ-45 twisted pair cables.
    It generates much less heat compared to 10GBASE-T. Power consumption is also the reason why I prefer SFP+ if you want full 10Gbps bandwidth.

  • Tyler Swidler
    Tyler Swidler 4 months ago +54

    A tech quickie on 3D printing would be cool, maybe a 2 parter on filament printing and resin printing with mention of other more exotic printing materials like concrete!

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      TheSonicFan4 4 months ago +2

      @SO20 yes, he is mom.

    • Morzsaszar
      Morzsaszar 4 months ago

      Who asked you?

    • Mushrif Saidin
      Mushrif Saidin 4 months ago

      That's actually a very good suggestion. Already liked so Techquickie see this!

  • Mitch Brown
    Mitch Brown 4 months ago +22

    I have a 10 gig connection at home. On paper, it was a good idea. In practice, not so much. It's not much different from a gigabit connection in a lot of situations because the things I connect to aren't fast enough.
    Steam on the other hand supports it and it's amazing.
    Downside is the Network card was not cheap and takes up a PCIE slot.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      @Mitch Brown I live less than 5 miles from Valve HQ so I don't think I could be closer. ;-). I only tested a few titles so it may have just been a limitation of the titles or the time I was testing it. I'll have to give it another monitored run on some titles to see if i can max it out.

    • Mitch Brown
      Mitch Brown 4 months ago

      @Curtis B I think it's because their server here is so close to me (only about 25km away) and we've got a good fiber backbone too. The ISP is also incredibly close. I think I got lucky geographically. Outside of that, like if I connect to Best Buy's Canadian page to do some price comparisons with stuff here, I'm back in slowsville.

    • Harsh Patil
      Harsh Patil 4 months ago

      we bit 10 mbps plan(in bits) : why are we still here just to suffer?

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      I have 2gbit and my steam tests max out at about 1.4mbit. You have seen faster? Only single connection thing I've seen max my 2gbit test is Windows ISO download.

  • Christ vargas
    Christ vargas 4 months ago +59

    I’d imagine most users would be fine with FastEthernet for their onboard unless they have a NAS or other LAN hosts that can use the gigabit and higher speed. Or if their local ISP isn’t a complete joke and offers good speed.

    • Yannic Grawitter
      Yannic Grawitter 4 months ago

      I have that exact same 10 gigabit switch in the video with 2 ports. It's liking my freenas server with the rest of the house, and a direct ten gig link to my pc with an old x540-T2 intel nic.
      It actually does benefit from faster speeds since it stores my steam library and has nvme cache
      Launching games or reloading checkpoints feels no different to an internal SATA SSD, and the latency is pretty decent.
      When I had the same setup with normal gigabit, it would take 5-10 minutes to launch a game. I still remember Payday 2 wouldn't even load...

    • Aceae
      Aceae 4 months ago +4

      @Qefna Ija just why do these bots go though the spam filter

    • Raymond Gaiser
      Raymond Gaiser 4 months ago +1

      AHEM, Century Link is a JOKE!!

  • Tyler Kulchinsky
    Tyler Kulchinsky 4 months ago +17

    This was actually super helpful. Especially the part about cabling and Network Switch. I've had the same Ethernet cables in my house for a while and was wondering if there was any point to upgrading them. I'll stick with my cables for now and if I ever move I'll re-cable everything anyways!

    • Denton Melvin
      Denton Melvin 4 months ago

      If you're running CAT5e or CAT6, unless you live in a very large home, your cabling is capable of 10Gb/s.
      CAT5e will run 10Gb/s to 35m, CAT6 will go to 55m.

    • F!nn PC
      F!nn PC 4 months ago

      Cat5e will be enough for a long time. You can even run 10 gig over it although it's not officially supported. I've seen plenty of people do it and they never had problems.

    • John A. Doe
      John A. Doe 4 months ago +2

      But also find out about the maximum cable lengths for 2.5 Gbit and the classification of your cables (CAT 5e, 6,...).

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  • Edward Allen
    Edward Allen 4 months ago +10

    I personally use used enterprise infiniband equipment. I got an eight port 40 GB per second per port switch for $79 on eBay. Adapters are generally about 45 bucks, or 65 bucks for a dual adapter. The dual adapters are nice because you can use one port as a 10 gigabit ethernet port and the other as an infinity band port. You obviously can't switch ethernet over the cheap infinity band stitch though.

    • killerdeamonking
      killerdeamonking 4 months ago

      @nulious True , i also have Fiber gigabit switch that does 10GB , fan is no louder than my desktop xd. Got mine free from data center quite a few years ago.

    • nulious
      nulious 4 months ago +1

      @Edward Allen actually not bad since I'm not pushing it to full capacity it doesn't run the fans at full blast.

    • Edward Allen
      Edward Allen 4 months ago +2

      @nulious ... But not quiet.

    • nulious
      nulious 4 months ago +3

      I got a 48 port poe switch with 8x10gb fiber and 4x40gb fiber ports. Used enterprise gear on eBay is cheap.

  • Admiral Tetanus
    Admiral Tetanus 4 months ago +263

    imagine getting anywhere near Gb internet. before I moved house I was lucky to get 10Mbps, even now I'm lucky to get 50Mbps. the infrastructure just isn't there in most of the UK

    • In Aere Ediflcare
      In Aere Ediflcare Month ago

      @Daniel You just have FOMO.. 4G speeds are good for over 300Mbps with no requirement for a transmission cell deployed every block..
      It is my experience that broadly deployed 5G hardly ever goes over 150Mbps.. What gives?

    • In Aere Ediflcare
      In Aere Ediflcare Month ago

      @Fredrik Wallenheim Well you actually are experiencing 1Gb.. and wait for it....
      100Mb/s because YESS.. the vast majority of internet servers do not upload over that limit...
      But don't hear it from me the worlds average upload speed is 56Mbps for Fixed broadband.

    • Trevor Honeyman
      Trevor Honeyman 3 months ago +1

      @Fredrik Wallenheim May as well then. Was same price difference for me between 550mpbs and 1gbps. Just a shame there is no option on the likes of Clip-Share and Netflix is have much less compressed 4K video

    • Fredrik Wallenheim
      Fredrik Wallenheim 3 months ago

      @Trevor Honeyman i only got 10G because it's almost the same price (3$ or so more) as the 1G..and because it's fun to know it's not a bottleneck.

    • Trevor Honeyman
      Trevor Honeyman 3 months ago +1

      @Fredrik Wallenheim Yeah I've got 1gbps but only ever use it for updates or game installers. I have it more for the upload speed on VM for backing up servers to the cloud.

  • ploxyzero
    ploxyzero 4 months ago +76

    I have gigabit and most of my downloads are limited in speed server-side anyway, so 2.5 doesn't really seem too useful for just a single computer

    • Flyboy
      Flyboy 4 months ago +5

      Exactly. People buy superfast internet packages and then blame the ISP for shitty download speeds, when in fact it's the shitty websites' fault.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago +5

      I have 2gbit and can confirm, for a single user there isn't much where you will be seeing any benefit from it for consumer use. Steam can go higher than 1gig but that only saves you a few minutes in a big download but most sites are well under 1gig. If you had a large family, there might occasionally be some benefit.

    • nulious
      nulious 4 months ago

      Cheap used enterprise switches can be purchased off eBay. I was able to get 10gb fiber from my pc to plex server.

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      HappySlappyFace 4 months ago

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    • ReadyPete Qualmers
      ReadyPete Qualmers 4 months ago +6

      I have a large NAS with TB of data and a multiple PCs, and I still have 1Gbps due to the expense of the extra hardware. 1Gbps works fine until the once in a while I move lots of files all at once (maybe every few years, or when I need to redo an array?)... then i just have to let it run a bit. That's one reason I think these higher speeds take so long to push out. Not many actually need to transfer large amounts of data in a short time. It would be nice, but not hundreds of dollars worth.

  • skra11
    skra11 4 months ago +19

    The intended application for 2.5G interfaces is business WiFi access points. WiFi is now capable of exceeding 1G. Businesses use PoE access points to increase coverage. Running 2 cables to an access point increases the cost of wire runs but also burns switch ports.

    • Aseki Bekovy
      Aseki Bekovy 4 months ago

      one of many reasons for 2.5G being a thing is that many of the current gen internet contracts speak of 1gbps but you can not utilize it on gigabit lan because of the overhead. Imagine having a perfect connection but the speed test never goes over 940 mbps.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      It is one of the intended uses but not the only as consumer routers have them and they are not managed and would never be used in businesses (by an IT person worth their salt). I have a consumer router with 10gbit wan (and 2gbit internet ). And to clarify WIFI is not faster than 1gig to any one device but can be to multiple devices. But of course that is only relevant if the access point is part of the router or has a multigig interface.

  • Gergely Varju
    Gergely Varju 4 months ago

    It might also depend a bit on where do you live, as sometimes downloads from servers don't saturate your bandwith because a lot of people will use the server and the server also has limited bandwidth. Also, the network of your ISP might have several bottlenecks, etc. and this can be a huge limitation. So, it might or might not work for you.
    But in some countries, plenty of P2P copying (bittorrent) of movies, tv shows, music is authorized by a blanket license financed with empty media levy (income is distributed with the help of various copyright agencies around the world) and plenty of symmetric connections? That might be very different story. Hey, I know people who use an old TV with 720p resolution, but they still download a lot of content in 4K, download movies and shows "they might watch later" and constantly complain because 2Gbit is slow, the storage on their NAS is always full.

  • Curtis B
    Curtis B 4 months ago +9

    I recently upgraded to 2gig internet. One of the big issue of multi-gig routers is that it only has the one WAN port that is multi-gig. All the LAN ports are 1gig. Fine if you have lots of people using 1gig at the same time but not good if you want faster connection to single devices. I got the daddy-long legs (with two 10gbit ports) as it is the only one our ISP was recommending (and one of the only consumer ones there are).
    But the main issue of 2 gig internet for only one or two people is that there really are very few places where you can utilize that speed. Steam can reach that point when downloading games (but saving a few minutes on a non urgent download of that size isn't a justification on its own of course). Onedrive doesn't even come close to 1gig. Just not a lot of conusmer uses.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 3 months ago

      ​@killerdeamonkingDude, my post expressly states "multi-gig router", not a modem. You don't seem to be clear on the distinction and I assume have only used combo cable modems that are also routers (and wifi access points). A modem is a different thing than a router which is a different think than a wifi access point. If you have a combo cable modem that is a modem, router and AP in one, and it has a multi-gig lan port, then yes you can plug that into a router because it is a LAN not a WAN port.
      However if you have a cable modem that is not a router, or, like almost everyone who has 2-10 gig internet, you have a fiber ONT, you HAVE to have a separate router and you have to plug into a router's WAN port. And these routers only have one multi-gig port that is the WAN. They do not have a second multi-gig port for the LAN. So no, you cannot do what you are describing when you need to use the WAN port, something everyone who has fiber multi-gig internet has to do.

    • killerdeamonking
      killerdeamonking 3 months ago

      @Curtis B The modem he talked about clearly has the 2.5gbit and 1gb lan ports in pink meaning your coax comes in and you have 4 1gbit ports and 1 2.5gbit lan port, watch the video again bud. Everyone made the comment that you could only do 1 single pc on the 2.5gbit port but thats clearly not true. A modem does not need a wan port lmao only routers have wan. 'Because there is no modem being discussed' watch the video, The first device he shows is clearly a modem. So you clearly dont understand what i said from the beginning.
      There are modems out there with just a single lan port being 2.5gbit with no 1gbit ports at all people generally want multiple devices connected at once, you do that through a 2.5gbit switch or even a 10gbit switch, think of that as a router if advanced enough.
      I wont argue over the fact that i have done it and works how i explaned it.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 3 months ago

      @killerdeamonking lol, yes you are. You are replying to my post about the routers only having a multi-gig wan port. So no, you can't "take that 1 2.5gb port from the modem" Because there is no modem being discussed and there is no 2.5gb LAN port in the router, only a multigig WAN port.
      So your comments don't apply to the issue being noted here.

    • killerdeamonking
      killerdeamonking 3 months ago

      @Curtis B I never claimed that you will get faster internet passed 1gb. people are saying that its good only for 1 system. They don't know that you can take that 1 2.5gbit port from the modem and use it with a 10gigabit capable switch and have that 2.5gbit speed for all systems connected to the switch. Your internal network will be 2.5gbit and should be able to browse at 1gbit with all systems.
      This is the sole design of the modem to be able to use a switch which many businesses already do what i said as even i have set them up this way myself.
      So im not miss understanding anything.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 3 months ago

      @killerdeamonking I think you are misunderstanding the issue that is being referred to.
      The issue is having a mulit-gig speed internet to a router that has a mulit-gig wan port with only 1 gig switch ports. Having a second multi-gig switch won't do anything for you in regards to access the multi-gig as the router only has 1gig lan ports. There is literally no way for any one machine on the network access the internet faster than 1gig. With those routers you only can take advantage of the multi-gig speed with multiple computers accessing at the same time.

  • Adrian
    Adrian 4 months ago +109

    Topic that you could cover in the future: How does PoE work?

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

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    • Blakek9000
      Blakek9000 4 months ago

      @SME Pictures 2nd that as someone with numerous networking certs

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      Pumciusz 4 months ago +20

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  • Fish
    Fish 3 months ago +1

    Would love to see a video on reducing connection latency, lowering ping, reducing packet burst or loss , etc for competitive gaming.

  • Tanner Robinson
    Tanner Robinson 4 months ago +5

    As someone studying for their CCNA, anything above 1Gb in a residential setting is pretty useless for 98% of people. There are those that may be hosting servers from a residential connection, but many ISPs will figure out that this is happening and then push you into using a Commercial connection. 1Gb is plenty for the average user. You may want fasters speeds, but how much are you willing to pay for both the equipment and the monthly bill.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago +3

      " but many ISPs will figure out that this is happening and then push you into using a Commercial connection"
      Should be "Many cable providers/Comcast". Only monopolistic piece of shit companies like comcast would do something like that. I have 2gbit fiber and I could use all of it up& down every second of every day and not get a call. As even cable executives have noted, there is no technical need for caps (or forcing people to commercial rates), it is all just ways to add to their profit.

    • Ilena Starbreeze
      Ilena Starbreeze 4 months ago

      for ymself i agree, my husband and i do gaming, and i watch streams and he watches youtube / such at the same time and we have never had a latency issue with all of that going, and while we have decent net, its not above gig for sure, only thing i would consider is internal server, because both our pcs have 2.5 gig ports built in

  • Joshua Waterhouse
    Joshua Waterhouse 4 months ago

    Got a router with 4x2.5GbE ports for LAN, along with two 1GbE ports and two 10GbSFP ports (initially set up for WAN, but I'm planning on redoing them as LAN when I actually use them). Looking at running a 10GbE switch from QNAP or something to run a network file share (high res video, plus game downloads and other files) to my desktop and other systems on my network. My desktop has 10GbE, the server I'm looking at running it from has *dual* 10GbE (yay for link aggregation!), and I have a few other systems with 2.5GbE, plus the switch is managed so I can run things through VLANs to clean things up.
    Only downside? I live with my mother, jand she doesn't want to have to deal with having to change what fucking wifi she connects to, so I have to use the router as a secondary one within the greater LAN. Drops my external uploads from about 18Mb/s to 5Mb/s...may have to push on that if I'm still here long enough, because I don't want to have to deal with that bullshit; multiple port forwards is annoying enough to make shit work.

  • hacked2123
    hacked2123 4 months ago +20

    Ended up going 100G from 1G because I was tired of waiting for a consumer 10g solution that wasn't insanely priced. 100% futureproofed for at least another 30 years

    • hacked2123
      hacked2123 4 months ago +3

      @Blahorga Slisk When I was in high school a 24 port 10/100 switch was $1000+, I remember quite a bit of the price history and change.
      Guarenteed the future of computers is going to be remote instances though, and all wifi can handle that just fine, but for communicating with my storage servers the only solution will be fast cables (either fiber or copper...but fiber seems to be cheaper overall imo)

    • Blahorga Slisk
      Blahorga Slisk 4 months ago +9

      Remember how ridiculous the prices were on 1 Gig ethernet for a long time? I remember paying something like $2000 for dumb 8-port 1G Ethernet switch, and that was the cheapest switch we could buy. I was made by D-Link and came with a fan that sounded like a jet engine. I also bought a HP Smart something something with 16 or 24 ports, and that cost an arm, a leg and both kidneys. And this too sounded like a A10 taking off. Heck 100 Mb Ethernet was expensive as H when first introduced. But even so I think 10 G Ethernet is taking way longer to trickle down to the private consumer market segment. Even 2.5 G has been hard to find at decent prices but hopefully it will become cheaper.
      In a way I feel WiFi has become so wide spread in use that less and less cheap wired networking products are being released. Sure I have WiFi in the house but for stationary computers, TV, NAS and such the wired network is still far better.

  • I ain't no millionaires son!

    God do I love networking, it's such an interesting field that is always evolving but still 10 years behind making it possible to master

  • Big John
    Big John 4 months ago

    Using gigabit equipment for many households makes sense just because of the cost alone. If I was to build or remodel a residence, then I would run cat6 cable because the cost over cat5e is not much more. Cat5e can hit 10gb speeds over shorter runs. I'll do an upgrade to higher speed network equipment once the current equipment fails and the 2.5gb+ equipment has a negligible cost over 1gb equipment.

  • L p
    L p 4 months ago

    I use a 2.0G USB to Ethernet adapter and yes, I can see improvement of overall internet web surfing experience. But I have not considering getting a 2.5G switch yet unless I want to build a cluster.

  • BooBunny
    BooBunny 4 months ago +7

    This video did really well at explaining 2.5Gb networking for home users until 3:38. 4k video has a bit rate around 25Mbps so with overhead you should be able to host as many streams as your media server is capable of on 1Gb.
    Moving or working with files from one device to another by the numbers. Two client devices only.
    Network speed; Storage device (single drive no RAID); Result
    1Gb; Basic HDD; Bottle necked by network.
    2.5Gb; Basic HDD; No bottle neck.
    5Gb; 2.5in SSD; No bottle neck
    10Gb; PCIe 3.0 NVMe; Bottle necked by network.
    The bottom line is that networking is just moving bits from A to B and you will be capped by your slowest device.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago +1

      Your list is spot on but a minor clarification: "Streaming" 4k is up to 24mbit. 4k UHD can peak at up to 128mbit and of course uncompressed even higher. So you can stream your UHD collection to up to 8 family members at the same time on a 1gbit connection (even more in reality). Kind of amazing.

    • BooBunny
      BooBunny 4 months ago +1

      @Andreas Sinz I used 25Mbps because it is the target bit rate for Netflix 4k streams.

    • Andreas Sinz
      Andreas Sinz 4 months ago +1

      Are we talking about Blu-ray or Streaming 4k video? Most of my 1080p Blu-rays have a bit rate of around 30Mb/s and doing a quick google search says that Blu-ray UHD can go up to 128Mb/s

  • Brent Smithline
    Brent Smithline 4 months ago

    Thing is I wonder if we will ever see advancements in the are of plastic fiber optic cable, connector, and router/switch so you could install 100 Gb/s solutions in a home? Would be great to be able to have NAS, and other devices that ran at 100 Gb/s on the LAN even if the highest connection was 1 Gb/s up, and down on the WAN/Internet.

  • Travis
    Travis 4 months ago +2

    I think that LAN speeds increases aren't very noticeable until they are about 10X what you had before. 1Gbps > 100M > 10M. So if you already have 1gpbs, 2.5Gbps isn't that big of an upgrade, especially if your upstream bandwidth is less than 1gpbs anyway.

    • The Redneck Ram
      The Redneck Ram 3 months ago

      @Curtis B Worry less about the people "suffering" with damned good high speed internet already and worry more about the people who are still struggling to get past 2007 levels of internet speed in the modern era when everything has ballooned in size because "everyone has high speed internet access without severely limited data caps"
      I have the option of satellite (and no that does not mean Starlink) and cellular internet. Satellite is limited to 60gb for the month before the speeds drop to barely enough to load a basic email. Speed varies wildly depending upon the atmospheric conditions and a coin toss on how congested the network is at that time you are trying to use it. Cellular can produce some usable speeds most of the time for more basic stuff but it gets a bit iffy when it comes to anything intensive. More importantly though is that the soft 22gb data cap on the cell phone plan isn't really an issue, but not using enough data to trigger the fraud department to get involved and figure out that you are using the plan as a home internet source is a problem. And yes even getting something like a grid parabolic antenna only helps the signal/speed issues just so much if you can't invest in a tower taller than the trees to mount it on.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      Ugh. I take it you have to suffer with cable. I'm sorry.

    • ReadyPete Qualmers
      ReadyPete Qualmers 4 months ago

      I can imagine a scenario like the video described with multiple machines accessing the same resource, but even then I don't know what one would have to do to make that little difference noticeable... video streaming I think is at MOST 30mbps, so would need lots of machines to max that out. I guess maybe using steam's game streaming feature

  • Daniel Liljeberg
    Daniel Liljeberg 4 months ago

    I held out and bought Ubiquiti newly released switch with 24 RJ45 ports which support 100Mbit-10GBit on each port. Sure, it wasn't free... But knowing every port in my house now supports up to 10GBit feels good and I can upgrade different computer and switches in the house as I go. For startes my main rig and my server have 10GBit cards and some of the others have 2.5GBit ones.

  • Interlace
    Interlace 4 months ago

    I just upgraded my home fibre from 100mbit to gigabit, and where the onboard gigabit adapter got ~900mbps throughput the 2.5gb/s port pulls the full 1Gbps from the connection.
    PS: Tested on a B550 Tomahawk mainboard, maybe it's just the 2.5g-adapter itself managing traffic flow differently, don't know why there's a 10% difference with the Realtek one..

  • Retro loneliness
    Retro loneliness 4 months ago

    It be nice if you covered how to upgrade routers, ISP legal/requirements, costs, and models

  • NPC#271
    NPC#271 4 months ago

    I'm in the process of upgrading everything in the house to 10gbe using 2 switches with 10gbe ports. However, most of the client appliances such as TV or shield only have 1gbe port so it seemed polintless. BUT, for 20 dollars you can buy rj45 to usb 3 adapters that will give you 2.5gbe.

  • M Harding
    M Harding 4 months ago +1

    I'd love to see you do a segment on Mikrotik routers for home labs.

  • GiSWiG
    GiSWiG 4 months ago +4

    Got 200 Mbps max, not by choice, just my only option. Still have plenty of bandwidth for two kids doing a combo of playing LOL, minecraft or watching YT/NetFlix and I can still work, with VPN, use VOIP and remote to clients for software support and even download a game on Steam. Yeah, 1Gbps would get me my Steam games faster but I haven't had any online gameplay issues.

  • Hags
    Hags 4 months ago

    I think fiber providers will start offering 5Gigs before they offer 10 more openly simply because it makes more business sense. Which should drop the price on 2 and 5 Gig respectively.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      Yes, this is what they are doing. We have 2 & 5 from our residential. Nice thing abou those speeds is that you get the full speed, without the overhead limit like you would if you had 10gbit with 10gbit link. So at 1gig I got ~940bmit due to overhead but at 2gbit I get 2.1 due to no overhead limits and some overprovisioning.

  • Timothy Fish
    Timothy Fish 4 months ago

    With NDI becoming more and more popular, I think a lot of churches are going to start looking at 2.5gbit, even if they don't have that going to the outside world. It's real easy to hit the 10 feed (approximate) limit of 1gbit when you factor in multiple cameras plus stage displays and streaming video to multiple rooms.

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    I was really surprised when i found out my MSI tomahawk B550 had a 2.5G port, when I got on the new modem/router combo which usually I'd avoid and it also had 2.5G out and decent wifi 6? like wow! I see burst speeds in the 1.1 range on my 1 gig plan

  • DJAndy
    DJAndy 4 months ago

    I have Asus motherboard which supports 1GB and 5GB. I recently discovered that the Aquantia 5GB port needs a special router/modem. In my past I've had 3 routers and currently searching for buying Asus RT-AX 88U in less than 200 dollars. My previous Huawei (cheap option) did not activate the 5GB port. I was wondering why until I bought Asus RT-AC1200+ which activates that port. Every time I connect Ethernet cable the drivers magically install and making this port working. I read in many forums that Aquantia is problematic. But almost 3 years waiting for optic fiber connection so this port gonna be much more useful! Especially when having backup server connected directly to the new router I am trying to buy cheaper

  • Flowxing
    Flowxing 4 months ago +3

    Id build everything on 2.5GBE and selectivly use 10Gbit, there is alot of switches available that have 2 or 4 10GBE and 8 2.5GBE. Connect the NAS and Workstation using 10GBE and the rest with 2.5GBE

  • Sketch Therapy
    Sketch Therapy 4 months ago +47

    I’ve been waiting for this thanks more on this please.

    • Sketch Therapy
      Sketch Therapy 4 months ago +1

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    • Sketch Therapy
      Sketch Therapy 4 months ago +1

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      Sketch Therapy 4 months ago +2

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  • Goat_Gaming
    Goat_Gaming 4 months ago

    Great video do you mind covering witch ISP should you choose, I feel like that would be a good video topic

  • Dave G
    Dave G 4 months ago +1

    I have six computers in my small home-based business, with four main ones I use often, and I do a lot of large file transfer between those four computers. So I bought a 5-port 2.5Gbps QNAP switch for $150 and some ASUS 2.5Gbps cards to put into my main four computers. And I'll connect that 2.5 switch to my main gigabit switch in my house, that way I will have faster transfer just between the main computers, which is my goal. I'm still on slower 150Gb Fiber for Internet but I might upgrade to Gigabit Fiber in the future. Eventually I might upgrade my main home switch to 2.5Gb as well as soon as the 8-port switches become popular and well priced.

  • Alfredo Lopez
    Alfredo Lopez 3 months ago

    don't worry, we'll find a use for it. just remember how much more information needs to be moved when it comes to higher quality games and simulations.

  • uolamer
    uolamer 2 months ago

    My newer motherboard had a single 2.5 gbit network port and a 1gbit. I have a few HDDs in my wifes PC and she accesses files on my PC. I bought a $30 PCIe 2.5 gbit network card for her computer and added a LAN between our PCs. This same thought process could be applied to a NAS or something else depending on the hardware. In my case I do not have any other 2.5 gbit devices or a switch too would have made sense.

  • ElvenSpellmaker
    ElvenSpellmaker 4 months ago +2

    I recently got Gigabit Fibre To The Premises and needed to test it and my router is being used elsewhere currently. I dug out an old router from about 2015 which only had 100Mbps and it worked like a charm, obviously capped to 100 down and 100 up.

    • Tim
      Tim 4 months ago

      *Maxed out at 1/10th the speed.*
      "Worked like a champ"
      Um... congrats on your bottleneck?

    • Dorper Systems
      Dorper Systems 4 months ago

      @Just Some Guy you can get a gigabit switch used for $10 though.

    • Just Some Guy
      Just Some Guy 4 months ago +1

      I have a 100 Mbps Linksys router from the mid 00s. It's not even close to doing 100 Mbps. Guess manufacturers could get away with that crap back when most people had 1-5 Mbit ADSL lines.

    • Dating zone 2
      Dating zone 2 4 months ago

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      Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
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  • ricky v
    ricky v 4 months ago +1

    Good video and glad I watched it.
    I know I will be using faster ports eventually. (:

  • Renucleous
    Renucleous 4 months ago +3

    There are use cases for it, but honestly, the vast majority of users don’t benefit one bit (pun intended) from speeds above 1Gbps.
    We have a 100Mbps line at home with corresponding 100Mbps Ethernet and besides from the „slow“ Steam download once every few month i don’t see a single use case for faster speeds. A watch tons of 4K content and don’t have to wait a single second for buffering or such. I download games, stream GeForce Now every now and then and have a heavily smartified home but I don’t experience a single hiccup in speeds with anything a can imagine doing.
    Everyone keeps talking about NASes and shit, but honestly, except for people Working with large files wth are you all constantly pushing around on your LAN?

    • The Redneck Ram
      The Redneck Ram 3 months ago

      Like Jason I have my own Plex server because I don't care to have to pull dvds and blu rays out every time I want to watch something I've already bought. Also it allows me to watch on my tablet or phone. Or take my media with me somewhere if I know I'm going to be sitting around somewhere away from home without much to do. Not to mention that due to my lack of worthwhile internet, streaming is a big problem at home. Through the use of a grid parabolic antenna I have recently been able to get my speeds a bit faster for streaming video, but still until some real internet decides to find its way out here, having a fast home network with all of my files is great

    • Jason Kimble
      Jason Kimble 4 months ago

      Plex server: TV shows and movies. I'm my own offline Netflix.

  • Dirter44
    Dirter44 4 months ago +5

    *Looks at my max 10Mbit's connection*
    "Don't even think about it..."

  • Jerry Crow
    Jerry Crow 4 months ago +1

    Depends on the use case. For me, it is fastest to drive to the store to get blu ray media, and i dont see it as a chore to go get 100 gigs of data as my parents did it for 100 kilos.

    • Dating zone 2
      Dating zone 2 4 months ago

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      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter"
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      Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
      Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
      Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
      Dene: ''Muzdak''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾

  • baseballseth
    baseballseth 4 months ago

    I would love either on here on on LTT to have a full run down of how to set up a Synology PLEX server. I can't be the only LTT fan that runs one.

  • Paul Aldrich
    Paul Aldrich 4 months ago +4

    Well here in Australia the conservative party (Liberal National Party) destroyed a fantastic optic fibre to the home initiative proposed by the rival Labor Party in favour of fibre to a node near your house. Worst part is it ended up costing more than the fibre to the home solution. Basically, we paid more for an inferior system, all because Rupert Murdoch asked his conservative political buddies to kill fibre to the home so that he could prop up his dying cable TV business. We get speeds around 32-48Mb/s (4-6 megabytes per second) as a result so we won't be saturating Gigabit speeds any time soon down under. Political corruption is just the best isnt it.......

  • Bill
    Bill 4 months ago

    I'm amazed as to how many consumer routers still run 100Mbps.

  • Mckay Noble
    Mckay Noble 4 months ago

    Dont know if its been done already or not but talking about "automatic updates" and how they can not be so automatic per se would be awesome.

  • Silver Alpha Core
    Silver Alpha Core 4 months ago +8

    FYI: *Even if you have a high-tech MF Ethernet coming/built from your router or even PC, think twice that if your Network Service sucks then don't expect that your Ethernet will come to save your gaming arse xD*

    • Dating zone 2
      Dating zone 2 4 months ago

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      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter"
      Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
      Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
      Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
      Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
      Dene: ''Muzdak''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾

  • Rob Fisher
    Rob Fisher 4 months ago

    My main problem is I have more than 8 Ethernet devices and consumer 2.5G switches don't seem to have more than 8 ports in total. Running multiple switches will be annoying. Waiting for lower prices and more choices.

  • Gospodja279
    Gospodja279 4 months ago

    Nicelly explained! Thank you! :)

  • Chameleon Scheimong
    Chameleon Scheimong 4 months ago +1

    Within a decade I think speeds above 1Gbps only makes sense in the context of either LAN networking or server use. You'd be hard pressed to find any internet service that can reliably hit (or realistically need) that kind of speed.

    • Chameleon Scheimong
      Chameleon Scheimong 4 months ago

      @Setsuna Kyoura Well, I'm interested in knowing where you live and what kind of sources you're downloading from. I've yet to find any internet video service that can come close to saturating a gigabit link.

    • Setsuna Kyoura
      Setsuna Kyoura 4 months ago

      Higher internet speed is already really useful. I can download a whole 4K movie in the time it takes to go to the bathroom. Most of the time the uncompression of the RAR files takes longer than the download itself. And thats only on 1Gb speed. With 2.5Gb speed you could download the movie in a short commercial break...

  • Kenneth Hicks
    Kenneth Hicks 4 months ago

    Got a crazy idea for LTT... build a stockfish pc. Small market but would be very technically interesting and may drive interest/market. Hard to say but see if it's worth it with a LTT discussion (think ya'll will find some interesting challenges ; )

  • Quantum Quantonium
    Quantum Quantonium 4 months ago

    There's a saying where the link can be only as fast as it's slowest link. This isn't necessarily true for IP as a whole since packets can take multiple routes, but it is true for the endpoints. If your router only supports all gigabit ports, then your computer can only get gigabit; if the server only supports 100 mpbs then your download will be slow regardless of how much you've paid for your internet.

  • Thomas196789
    Thomas196789 4 months ago

    TV from what I understand don’t even have Gigabit ports. Have Linus do a video on that!

  • Daniel Nilsson
    Daniel Nilsson 4 months ago

    I have access to 10 Gbps fiber to my house, without it costing an arm and a leg (yay). What are my best options if I want to utilize that speed and still have a WiFi 6e Mesh network? (I game with an ethernet cable but don't want separate systems/routers for wifi and gaming)

  • Landstander
    Landstander 4 months ago

    Very annoying that there aren’t many routers on the market with both 2.5 WAN and LAN ports. Ended up going with a UDM Pro for my home network for this very reason

  • Doncarlo Agustino
    Doncarlo Agustino 4 months ago

    I've set up a full mirror of an entire home file server. Having 2.5 Gbps Ethernet would've saved a few days on the initialization.

  • Zachary Lowe
    Zachary Lowe 4 months ago +1

    Thank you for these networking tips, master Shifu

  • Metalreaper13
    Metalreaper13 4 months ago

    My current plan is 1200mbs but I’m currently capped at 1000. My xr700 has access to a port that goes beyond, but it’s an sfp+ port, and trying to find the right thing for that hasn’t been the easiest. Even got an adapter for that, but it just didn’t recognize it, so for now I have to stay at the 1 gig

  • Florian Trabauer
    Florian Trabauer 3 months ago

    if your router is able to use LACP you can connect two Ethernet cables to your computer and your router. enable LACP on both sides and set the hashing algorithm to MAC and IP Address. The traffic is split between two Ethernet connection based on the source and destination IP address. This doesnt allow you to use more than 1 GBit on a single connection but you have more bandwidth when you are using multiple connections (torrents) . Some Software vendors are using torrents to ship updates.

  • Garegin Asatryan
    Garegin Asatryan 4 months ago

    my former boss cut all the 5e cable for a client because he thought that it can't do 1gbe. hold on, that's not the end. he then installed APs in that room, which made them complain about the speeds, since they were doing AV production

  • Ridger Wolf
    Ridger Wolf 2 months ago

    Yes, sort of.
    I can answer this because i HAVE DONE THIS EXPERIMENT.
    With my previous modem that had 2x 1Gigabit ports that you can't load balance, i was never really getting my full 1Gig internet connection. Maybe 800 to low/mid 900s. I even used a Cat7 cable at least 3 ft in length (any shorter as a direct connection between devices can cause issues).
    In my own house, i made ever effort to reduce bottle necks. I have a 10gb connection between the router and switch, and the switch to the server. The only bottle neck left WAS THE MODEM (Arris 8200).
    I finally found a cable modem that had at least a 2.5g port on it.
    Magically, i now can get just over 1gb from the internet regularly on speed test (1068mbps is what it hits on average).
    The truth is, ethernet, just like wireless, has an actual performance limit. You are not going to actually get 1gb from Ethernet but you will get up there.
    Having 2.5gb opens up that top end giving you more space to work in even though you don't really need it for 99.9% of people and applications out there.
    Do you NEED 2.5gb connections for home internet? NO, no one really needs it. Most don't really need over 100mbps down. It is nice to have but the average user doesn't need that much. Even when you watch download speeds for games or Netflix, everything is done in bursts and never really goes that high. I never seen Netflix break 60mbps before (the router tracks all).

  • Jake Karma
    Jake Karma 4 months ago

    I max out around 50-60 download and around 10 up here in the UK. Cost like 70 a month to get DECENT fast speeds. Takes me like an hour or so to install small updates on games

  • ameteuraspirant
    ameteuraspirant 4 months ago

    I'll be honest, reaching even 1GB download speed would be a dream. Because right now I'm running barely megabytes per second with my countryside wifi.

  • aaron lagomarsino
    aaron lagomarsino 4 months ago +1

    When gaming online, does a 2.5GBe connection on the local network, change your ping at all to the end server? I'd imagine not as the internet is likely the bottleneck. But, I would love some data to back that up.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      @Justin It shouldn't make any difference at all. gbit tech is old hat and all real world performance is the same (not getting into really advanced features relevant to IT people working with servers or the like).
      Though the port on the board not working would bother me as I don't want to have to have extra things in the system if I don't have to. Very unusual to have a port fail like that. If you aren't getting lights on the port when plugging in a cable connected to the router (or internet) I'd look to see if the previous owner bent the pins in it (should see 8 even height connectors in there). If they look good, I'd check to see if it is disabled in the BIOS/UEFI.

    • Justin
      Justin 4 months ago

      @Curtis B hey man I have an Ethernet card in my pcie port cuz my mobo port wasn’t working apparently when I bought this pc second hand. It’s a b450 strix and on the website it says it has Intel gigabit internet. Do you think I may have better ping going through the motherboard port if the pcie card is not the best quality ?

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago +1

      No. Ping and bandwidth are unrelated. Ping is about a few things, including the hardware, internet type, physical distance, and number of servers between you and the destination. Generally if you want low ping get a fiber provider and live close to the data centers.
      I was at 1gig prior and had 1-3ms ping to speedtest servers close to me. Went to 2gbit (with 10gbit connections) and have the same ping. I'm fortunate not to be stuck with shit provider like Comcast.

    • aaron lagomarsino
      aaron lagomarsino 4 months ago

      @Michael Reid same

    • Michael Reid
      Michael Reid 4 months ago +1

      No, I was getting 30ms pings for online gaming in 1998 via 56k modem. I'm still getting 30ms pings from 1gb fiber.

  • E.Wolfdale
    E.Wolfdale 4 months ago

    In my location, the fastest available internet is LTE ~2-20Mbps, I'm glad that at least it does not break connections. 😅

  • House Station Live .com

    apprently my isp provide 4 x 10 gb ports. i can confirm on the routeur admin panel "internet stauts 10gb down 700mb up" that's important cause my computer has 2.5 and because i have an ssd in my router i wanna be sure this external drive connected trough ethernet can uses all the benefit of that 2.5gb port. or maybe i have 10gb for the whole network (4 ports and they share thoses 10gb, still meaning 2.5gb each). there is no speed indicated on the hardware itself, unfortunately.

  • DarkCrow02
    DarkCrow02 4 months ago

    I'd suggest another video similar to this one but with fast storage i.e. PCIe 4.0 or PCIe 5.0

  • Eric Verdusco
    Eric Verdusco 3 months ago

    Useful information 👍

  • Pierce Hamilton
    Pierce Hamilton 3 months ago

    I love how he's talking about 2.5 GB per second internet, when I have 10 mb per second internet for my entire house

  • Mayorga Forero John Mario

    What do you think about the Ground Protection on the Cat5 cables??. I defend that position because protect the device on any electrical overload and if you see other PoE tutorials you see that the metallic connector RJ45 with the platinum cover inside the UTP cables (connected property with ground) is the better option for any interference inside the home. Please I recommend you see all the information about the topic before to upload "popular vids" to this platform and made opinions that don´t have any utility for the final user.

  • KoLDBLooDeD Entertainment

    also, my other question is what is your point of having two ethernet ports on one motherboard and what is it used for

  • Chad Bremer
    Chad Bremer 4 months ago

    The switch at the heart of my network is 10Gb. All other switches branch off from that with SFP+ backbone connections. Then my file server, VM server, and gaming rig all connect directly to the 10Gb switch. In my new house I will be getting a 2.5Gb switch for my wifi APs. The new Unifi AP units use 2.5Gb lan connections. Sadly, I will only have 1Gb internet for now. But all the in network stuff should fly.

  • Aron Bezzina
    Aron Bezzina 4 months ago

    My government spent over $50billion on our internet infrastructure so now I’m able to get speeds of up to 34mbps at my house! Something tells me I’m not going to need 2.5gb switching any time soon 😂

  • EweChewBrrr
    EweChewBrrr 4 months ago

    I would be happy with a 0.25 Gbps. At the moment I'm sitting on ~0.025 Gbps. Internet speeds here in Australia are lightening fast!

  • George Karanikos
    George Karanikos 4 months ago

    Love you guys, but you didn't really answer the question... What's"media server guys"? In practical terms, at what point is gigabit insufficient? Examples like number of 4k streams or downloading X game difference between 1 and 2.5 gig. Stuff like that. Thanks for listening

  • Random Tech Videos
    Random Tech Videos 4 months ago +1

    Most modern PCs/motherboards now have 2.5 Gbps LAN built in without needing an adapter card.

  • polydoros katsamakis
    polydoros katsamakis 4 months ago

    In Greece having a vdsl 50mbps internet connection is luxury and a 200mbps(maximum offer) is extraordinary

  • Neeboopsh
    Neeboopsh 4 months ago +17

    since it took so long to go from 1gbe being main stream, lets just go to fiber and futureproof to 100gbit and beyond

    • Denton Melvin
      Denton Melvin 4 months ago

      @jerithil For multimode this may be true. Although there's now a SWDM standard to allow 100Gb/s on a single duplex multimode fiber.
      With singlemode fiber, we're moving Tb/s over the same fibers with Coherent DWDM.

    • Denton Melvin
      Denton Melvin 4 months ago

      @Carlos O Shit... What about the 2 x 200Gb/s connection I have between our ISP and the upstream provider on the same fiber?

    • Gijs
      Gijs 4 months ago +1

      @Nicky Hendriks You are right, i was looking at 1G.

    • Nicky Hendriks
      Nicky Hendriks 4 months ago

      @Gijs yes for Gigabit. 10Gb is going to be a bit more expensive and is around 30 bucks a set of two. Because you would always need a set. And it also really depends on the brand that is used. TP-Link is going to be cheaper than HP which is going to be cheaper than Cisco which are cheaper than Nokia which are cheaper than Alcatel-Lucent which are cheaper than NeoPhotonics. It all depends on the brands you buy. ISP's often go for Alcatel, Nokia and NeoPhotonics because of the quality they deliver and they can last a very, very long time, most of the single mode BiDi Gigabit SFP's of these brands have two ports which can both be used for another line in FttH OLT's.

    • Nicky Hendriks
      Nicky Hendriks 4 months ago

      @Carlos O around 950/960 is the limit of a Gigabit port

  • Carlos Campo
    Carlos Campo 4 months ago

    There comes a point where hardware and software bottlenecks will stop any upside you might get from having a fully capable 10 Ghz Ethernet connection. Specially on something like gaming or even Chrome (running AWS or GCP will absolutely kill your machine). You should investigate at which "hardware" spec, having a 10 Ghz ethernet speed becomes just as useful as having a much slower speed, Purely on the user experience / "what the user actually perceives in daily use"

  • Sal Paradise
    Sal Paradise 4 months ago

    Yes - cables are always better than wifi and 10/100 Ethernet gear is on the verge of being obsolete. So, faster? Always.

  • Michael
    Michael 4 months ago

    In Europa most of the time we use Router with Modems integradet, so the single 2.5 GBits Port can be used for another Router (why?) or for the a Device, WAN is mostly used if you have a Router with a not compatible Modem (a Router with a Glasfiber modem but using Copper Internet as example)

  • Kjell
    Kjell 4 months ago

    Yeah.. it depends. I think no matter how fast the data arrives you are limited by the time it takes to write.

  • Ross Canpolat
    Ross Canpolat 4 months ago

    I was shocked to find out my 2019 Sony Bravia with Android TV is only 10/100. The only explanation I can come up with is that Sony think their TV can't decode anything that is too large to fit down a 10/100 pipe.

    • Akshay Mathur
      Akshay Mathur 4 months ago

      It's a media consumption device, not a work station. A 4k stream will easily fit in the 100Mbps Ethernet connection.
      And remember, most people do not even use it, but rather connect via WiFi (n not ac), which is even worse. And in 2019, in 95% of the world, home networks weren't anything above 100Mbps, and internet connections even slower.

  • Wyatt Liu
    Wyatt Liu 4 months ago

    I tried to have 10Gbe on my small townhouse over cat5e and it is pretty cheap as well. Just 10Gbe on 2 ports of the switch and the rest are 2.5Gbe.

    • killerdeamonking
      killerdeamonking 4 months ago +1

      @Wyatt Liu Well, it all depends on where your looking for a switch. Sometimes you can get lucky and get it below 200 and besides 200 is not much for a 1 time buy for having 2+gbit connections to all devices. You get what you pay for.

    • Wyatt Liu
      Wyatt Liu 4 months ago

      @killerdeamonking that would be excessively expensive. 2 10Gbe port 2.5Gbe switch is pretty much the same 200 dollar range to ensure one high speed device + a few ok speed devices

    • killerdeamonking
      killerdeamonking 4 months ago

      get a 10gb network switch then plug all devices into the switch, now all devices have 10GBit.

  • Keith Gable
    Keith Gable 4 months ago

    Protip: 10GbE is super cheap if you buy second hand. 10GbE SFP+ cards (like the Connect-X 2) run $30-40 shipped, and you can pick up a Mikrotik CRS305 for $120 shipped. If your devices are near the Mikrotik, DAC cables cost under $10. If you need RJ-45 connectors, then you can pick up transceivers anywhere from $30 to $90 (or you can get 2.5GbE transceivers even cheaper) depending on how far you need the cable to run. If you are OK running a new cable, then fiber transceivers are dirt cheap (I got several for free with my used Connect-X 2s) and precut fiber is frequently cheaper than Cat6 cable. I went this route because everything is close to the Mikrotik, but if I needed 2.5GbE, a transceiver can be easily changed as my hardware or cabling upgrades. If you bought a 2.5GbE switch without SFP+ ports, you have to buy a new switch if you want/need to upgrade to 10GbE in the future.

    • Denton Melvin
      Denton Melvin 4 months ago

      Exact same path I went. Started with a p2p between the desktop and the server, with 1g to each of them for the rest of the network/internet, and then finally upgraded to a 10Gb/s switch. I'm using OM3 jumpers and LC keystone jacks for wall terminations.

  • 681278
    681278 4 months ago

    Lol weird seeing zoho. It’s what I’ve used for junk mail & such for years - though less needed with apple implementing hide my email. But not sure how much work it will be to transition so haven’t bothered.

  • João Gomes
    João Gomes 4 months ago

    What about connecting a 10G device to a 2.5G router port? Do you reckon that works, or are Ethernet standards not as graciously backwards-compatible like FireWire or Thunderbolt? I mean, I know it will, in the worst case scenario, default to 1G speeds, as 2.5 is indeed a more recent standard than either of those.
    It’s just that I have a CAT5e installation at home which might not be easily replaceable with CAT6, and I’m thinking of getting a new iMac (Pro, 27’’, whatever they end up calling it) with the pretty much expected to be available network upgrade.

    • Matt D
      Matt D 3 months ago

      @Curtis B newer 10g gear will often but not always be multigig compatible.
      Older 10g gear is 1/10 only (sometimes 100meg as well if you're lucky).

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      Yes, most a10g devices operate at 1, 2.5, 5 and 10gbit link speed. Cat5e isn't rated for 10gbit but the reality is that it can usually carry it fine over normal home lengths. No problem with 2.5.

  • DanielCH DJ
    DanielCH DJ 4 months ago

    I got 1.5gbps of internet speed to my house, needed to find a way to use all its potential! Thanks

  • Travis Vaught
    Travis Vaught 4 months ago +1

    I have a 10gb card that came with the X570 Godlike. I ran a cat 5 cable through my walls to connect it to the router in the living room. But I have a cheap router provided by my ISP. So I’m guessing I’ll need a new router to take advantage of the speed. But will I also need to upgrade from the Cat5 cable?

    • ImMortal468
      ImMortal468 4 months ago

      @We Are Earth Time For Change I mean if he just run the cable then it should be cat5e. I don't think you can buy cat5 that easily nowadays unless you look for it specifically.

    • ImMortal468
      ImMortal468 4 months ago

      @We Are Earth Time For Change I didn't even assume that its not cat5e.

    • Travis Vaught
      Travis Vaught 4 months ago +1

      @ImMortal468 Awesome! I’m using about 30.48 meters (100 ft) so it sounds like it’ll work. Thanks!

    • ImMortal468
      ImMortal468 4 months ago +2

      If you are under 45 m of cable there is good chance that 10gb will work.

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  • Vladislav Karas'
    Vladislav Karas' 4 months ago

    Would you explain what is difference between MAIN and AUX in the WLAN mini cards?

  • Tim
    Tim 4 months ago

    1:06 "That's the WAN port which..."
    Bro, that's a Modem. It doesn't have a WAN port.
    Modems don't have WAN ports as they're literally the final stop before the Internet infrastructure.

  • Lucius NeoChoJin
    Lucius NeoChoJin 4 months ago

    Or if you want wireless VR without any restrictions, knowing the Quest 2 can do 1200mb/s

  • Norbert Colon
    Norbert Colon 4 months ago +8

    Watching on a pc with a 10Gb sfp card thats on a sub-net to my slow ass 1Gb home network, this pc, a mac and a freenas box swapping data at light speed. A 5 port Mikrotik 10Gb switch and 2 sfp network cards came in at under £200, 10Gb doesn't have to be expensive.

    • Matt D
      Matt D 3 months ago

      @Norbert Colon I'm with you on this one. There's some real bargains to be had on 10g SFP+ gear now that enterprise is abandoning it it droves and dumping unused kit into the S/H market. Mikrotik and QNAP seem to have picked it as a SOHO market and are making switches you can sit next to all day long without going deaf. Fibre is so cheap and durable now cat6 seems laughable.

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      @Norbert Colon lol, someone is a delicate flower throwing a fit when they weren't even being challenged. Suggest you go to your safe space which you obviously need. No one will hurt you there.

    • Norbert Colon
      Norbert Colon 4 months ago

      @Curtis B I can't help it if your grasp of basic english is so poor

    • Curtis B
      Curtis B 4 months ago

      ​@Norbert Colon Your specific comment was "my slow ass 1Gb home network" after mentioning watching the video so it reads as though that is a complaint.
      Now if that 1gig is cable internet, then your internet really is slow ass whenever you need to upload that work via their pathetic upload speeds.