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Part 1: Iconic turntables (which one makes it to our listening room?)

  • Published on Mar 28, 2023 veröffentlicht
  • Harley Lovegrove's guide to his all time top 10 iconic turntables. Why they were so important, and how they shaped our industry and listening experience. (Plus the one I choose for our listening room).
    Interesting links:
    Acoustic Research:
    The Acoustic Research 'hammer' video: • Audiophile Turnta...
    Lenco 'Heaven' (for spareparts and advice etc.): www.lencoheaven.net/forum/ind...
    00:00 Introduction
    02:48 Garrard 301
    04:55 Thorens TD-160
    07:43 Acoustic Research XA
    11:41 Lenco L75
    13:42 Pioneer PL-12D
    15:51 Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference
    17:10 Technics SL-1200
    19:17 Linn Sondek (LP-12)
    23:30 Rega P3
    25:55 Brinkmann Taurus
    27:10 The big reveal
    As always, if you would like to find out more about Pearl Acoustics and our Sibelius loudspeakers, please visit our website at www.pearlacoustics.com, or email us with your questions: enquiries@pearlacoustics.com.
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  • smaarch1
    smaarch1 4 months ago +20

    Just great Harley and thank you. I look forward to the rest of this series. After owning several decks from the 1970's (yes we are probably the same age), and then a long absence from LP's and perhaps music in general, I recently put together a system thinking I would go all digital. It started just fine and enjoyable. When I was then presented with the opportunity to purchase a turntable, a Nottingham Analogue 294 Space. I find it remarkable for it's philosophy of design and execution. Both aspects being focused on simplicity. Of course the game of getting the digital side up to level with the analogue side begin immediately after, A new streamer directly hard wired to a modem, a new (and expensive) DAC from Bulgaria, of course new interconnects, and I have to say it has not yet been able to catch up. Although I have a theory about why, I'm simply not knowledgeable enough to explain to present it here. But i do know what I hear and I'm astonished by the sound of analogue. As if I never heard music before.

    • Cornelius Antonius
      Cornelius Antonius 2 months ago +1

      The Legendary Philips 312 of wich I have it;s direct brother the Aristona 1312. And I have a 1977 Technics SL 1710 as a back up. Both rock new elips Elements.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      @flowntn hi, you know I cannot be sure about that. I don’t think the quote comes from Peter, he may have said it, quoting someone else. But I don’t think he would have over-simplified it line that. He meticulously critical and questioning of everything.

    • flowntn
      flowntn 3 months ago +1

      @Pearl AcousticsWas it Peter walker who described the perfect amplifier as a straight wire with gain or something similar? Google now tells me it was Stewart Hegeman. Not just my cochlear that are facing me.

    • Nat Denchfield
      Nat Denchfield 3 months ago +1

      @alan fenick I have great respect for Pink Triangle's decks - I have a couple of Anniversaries and a few PT1s and Exports myself. I'm about to embark on a rationalisation and it's hard to pick which of all my turntables to keep but my late production Anni and a Funk Firm modified Rosewood PT1 will be on the list.

    • alan fenick
      alan fenick 3 months ago +2

      I would like to add a few more turntables! Pink Triangle, Ariston and Miracord! I was a distributor for Pink Triangle in the US in the 1980’s. The Miracord was an incredible changer! Ariston was beautifully made, great sounding turntable with the SME tonearm with a Denon 103C cartridge.

  • Mike LeBlanc
    Mike LeBlanc 4 months ago +21

    I love the range of turntables you introduced here from the simple AR-XA and P3, the entry level PL-12D and Garrard 301, the slightly higher end LP-12 and Brinkman to finally some very beautiful and more complicated turntables. Excellent list and great description of the history of turntables.

  • Doug
    Doug Month ago +1

    Superb video as always but this was even more poignant for me as the owner of A Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference with an SME arm that was restored for me by Michael Gammon (David’s son). Just looking at it gives me unbelievable pleasure but listening to it sends shivers up my spine when you realise it’s about 40-50 years old. The design was so unlike anything else which is why it was so iconic and for me, still is.
    Michael is still hand building versions of these and has a very loyal following for them. He delivered the restored unit back to us personally and we had the most wonderful conversation and history from him. British Design and Engineering at its best and iconic and long may he continue to create these beautiful turntables.

  • Stewart Cohen
    Stewart Cohen Month ago +2

    That was really fun! Back in the 80's when I was setting up my system, I wanted a SOTA, but ended up with a P3 (with the straight one-piece tonearm, like in the second photo). Using a sorbothane mat for a little better isolation, clamp, a mid-range cartridge (dynavector) and rewiring the back end (because of cable corrosion), I have really been quite happy for a very long time now. A while back I switched to a McIntosh pre-amp, and I think I get all the reveal I need with my older ears! From the looks of it, the P-10 has improvements on all the best parts of the P3 formula.

  • Paul CG Retired
    Paul CG Retired 27 days ago +1

    I have owned a Linn Sondek LP 12 (#8 on your list) since the early 90's and never ceases to amaze!! I did not hear you give a shout-out to Ivor, a true Revolutionary in the way we look at Audio Systems today. I had a chance to meet him years ago and he was both a Cynic and a Genius.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  27 days ago

      Thanks for your comment Paul… at least you have now! 😉 best wishes

  • Ramzi Musallam
    Ramzi Musallam 3 months ago +4

    Had my Rega P3 (with the straight RB300 tonearm) since 1986 and apart from replacing the band it's been brilliant. It's probably the one component that hasn't been upgraded or will be over time. Nice round up!

  • Matt Borchert
    Matt Borchert 4 months ago +19

    As always, I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and knowledge.

  • T Q
    T Q 4 months ago +9

    Thank you very much for this. I’m now going to my music room to listen to my Thorens TD 160 while I look forward to Part 2 of your three part series.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  4 months ago

      You’re welcome! (I am going to my listening to record Pt. 2! 😉

  • Chuck Maddison
    Chuck Maddison 2 months ago +2

    I'm very happy you included the Garrard.
    We have had Garrard for many years.
    From a cheap basic in a Dansette player to my current player a Zero 100 which I bought new in 1973. I know the Zero has known issues. A true classic in terms of being unique but not the best of kind.
    I would love to hear you talk about cables a very touchy subject.

  • luis perez
    luis perez 3 months ago +3

    In my return to vinyl 14 years ago, I purchased an entry level Rega RP1 to see if the vinyl experience was worth it. Since them, I have modified this table with an aluminum sub-plater, acrylic platter and an RB330 arm. This simple setup will be a part of my system for many years to come.

  • BJ K
    BJ K 4 months ago +25

    I have the AR XA turntable. It is an amazing record player, so simple and well executed. MOMA has one in their permanent collection. Compared to my Oracle/Alphason it is close in performance. Remarkably easy to use, dead accurate, silent wow & flutter and very dynamic- you must hear one! Remarkable…

    • Jeffrey Batten
      Jeffrey Batten 3 months ago

      @Robert FromOC My first TT was the AR-XA, in high school. I loved it but I sold it to a friend and replaced it with a GA-212. I still have one, along with a Technics SP-15.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      @Michael Arighi hi. Indeed I wouldn’t dare borrow it from you 😉 but that’s a very nice thought!

    • Michael Arighi
      Michael Arighi 3 months ago +3

      I've had the AR-XA since about 1969. Still works fine and is incredibly quiet and simple to use. Sorry, I'm on the West Coast of the USA, so I don't think it would be possible to loan it.

    • Dan Seven
      Dan Seven 3 months ago +1

      I have an Oracle..love it..heard a lot of tabled. Brother in law had quad esl 63's with Naim and quad electronics tied to an Alphason Sonata table..koetsu black cartridge. Phenomenal.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thanks! very interesting

  • Paul Gadman
    Paul Gadman 2 months ago +3

    Fantastic show.Thanks all. So interesting and I was surprised rgat I'd heard of four of them! Your'e a great host Harley .Captivated me from start to finish.X

  • Adrian McCarthy
    Adrian McCarthy 3 months ago +5

    I came across this video yesterday, and I love your presentation I have since watched quite a few, you have a great way of explaining things, also I have a Rega RP6, so I was surprised when it was a Rega that came out on top. Looking forward to seeing parts 2 & 3

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Thanks Adrian. Glad you are enjoying them. Pt.2 will come out in December 12

  • Ian P
    Ian P 3 months ago +4

    I sometimes dream of owning a P10 so I’m looking forward to hearing your thoughts about it. My wonderful P25 is really a dressed up P3 and I love it. And I always appreciated how you could play a Rega out of the box - no tinkering required!

    • Paul Green
      Paul Green 3 months ago

      I've bought two P25s over the years. I'm convinced it's that RB600 tonearm that's the real winner over the P3, etc. A great value for a great 'table.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +2

      Pt. 2 on P10 coming soon...

  • Matthew Stringer
    Matthew Stringer 3 months ago +3

    Nice presentation, always enjoy hearing about decks. I have a fairly high-end Linn Sondek that's evolved since I bought it back in '94, I love how it sounds. That said if I could have any deck it would be an SME model 60, that thing is a pure event in every aspect.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you. I considered the SME 60 but could not fit it in and decided for Brinkmann instead. It was a close call

  • Barbara Dee
    Barbara Dee 3 months ago +6

    I bought a (new) Thorens 160 back in the 1970s and loved it . When I got back into vinyl a few years ago I was lucky enough to get a pristine Thorens 165 for a great price. I like this 165 better as it uses just gravity for stylus presure instead of a spring like in the 160.

  • W
    W 4 months ago +9

    Well done. We all expected to see a massive turntable weighing more and costing more than our daily driver. I am hooked. Looking forward to part 2.

  • Obsolutely
    Obsolutely 3 months ago +1

    I first got into vinyl in the early 90s, I did everything in reverse - I had a cassette deck first, then I got a CD player, then I got a record deck. I plumped for the Thorens TD166 (a budget derivative of the 160) which stood me in good stead for many years. The other option at the time was the Rega and back then I think you could get a basic Rega Planar for a little over £100, incredible value.

  • Tee-Jay The Stereo-Bargainphile

    Wow your story telling really took me into the scene , Thank you for taking the time and sharing part of your Audio Journey

  • D Rackley
    D Rackley 4 months ago +6

    Fantastic video and always very educational. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3!

  • Avo Choe
    Avo Choe 3 months ago +3

    Very informative and well laid out! This is going to be one of those videos I'd forward to buddies looking to get deeper into learning about the turntable histories!

  • De Audiofilos y Locos
    De Audiofilos y Locos 3 months ago +2

    Thanks Harley. Interesting choice. That Rega P10 looks awfully close to their $50k statement unit which I got to see and hear once. I guess that by making the top ten the Ariston and Heybrook had to be ommited 😊

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Indeed, I missed out on so many turntables... :-(

  • Pablo wedgburg
    Pablo wedgburg 4 months ago +3

    I hope that in part 2 there will be discussion of record care/cleaning as that aspect of playing LPs etc to their full potential seems to be crucial. I have watched Michael Fremer's efforts in the fight against static & grime with various contraptions, and hope to see your recommendations. ps I wonder whether the old dust bug company is still going and can I buy shares?

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Hi Pablo. I do not cover record cleaning in Pt. 2 sorry about that. This is an area I am a bit of a novice in and need to learn more...

  • Nigel Butters
    Nigel Butters 3 months ago +14

    Thanks for an interesting video! I don't have a Thorens TD160 but I have a TD150 that I bought new in 1972 and has given me 50 years of continuous service. I recently refurbished it with a good polish and clean, new belt, acrylic arm board, new acrylic cover, new modified Rega arm and a re-veneer of the plinth. I have never considered replacing it with anything else and it will now outlive me. I'd say it was iconic 😀😍

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  2 months ago

      @Liboy no it’s not a copy of the Thorens but of the Ariston

    • Liboy
      Liboy 2 months ago +1

      @Pearl Acoustics
      Is the Sondek LP12 just an ‘expensive copy’ of the Thorens TD150?

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Thank you for your appreciation. Indeed, you have a fine turntable that will last generations. definitely Iconic and ecological too.

  • Kelly Dazet
    Kelly Dazet 3 months ago

    Thanks you very much, Harley! My first TT was the Dual 1019, followed by the Thorens TD-160 and later the TD-125 with SME 3009 Which I still use). Perhaps my favorite was the Pioneer PL-530X!

  • Howard Leopold
    Howard Leopold 3 months ago +8

    I have a Technics SL-1100A which I bought in early 1974 which predates the SL-1200. The SL1100A was claimed to be the first “integrated” (with tonearm) direct drive turntable in the world. I still use it.

    • That Micro 4/3 Guy
      That Micro 4/3 Guy 2 months ago

      Agreed, I also have the SL110 version of it with an SME3009/2 on it. They came out in 1971 and are a far superior deck to the SL1200

  • Fokke Groen
    Fokke Groen 2 months ago +1

    Very nice list, and a joy to learn about the background of LP playback some more and the timeline especially of the sub-chassis players. Had no idea that 1972 was such a pivotal year :) But hey, I was only 4 years old then, so not in the market for any hifi gear.
    In my opinion, I think the Goldmund Reference turntable from the 80's (with the tangential arm) is missing from your list. To me, that has always been a milestone in analog playback. Made an unforgettable impression on me the first time I heard it.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  2 months ago

      Thanks, indeed I missed the Goldmund! Pt. 3 is coming out on the 17th.

  • flixtonman
    flixtonman 3 months ago +2

    I am really glad you included the PL 12D .I have had one for years and I love it .

  • Radovan Trifunov
    Radovan Trifunov 3 months ago +1

    Thank you for yet another insightful and informative video! I am wondering what is your opinion on heavyweight models like Kronos Sparta or Kuzma XL Air turntables? Looking forward to pt. 2 of this fantastic series.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Thank you. You’re very kind. Part 2 comes out on December 12.

  • Dan Rodriguez
    Dan Rodriguez 3 months ago +2

    I knew that AR looked familiar. I had one in the mid to late 70s. I was living off campus with roommates. Someone they brought in liked it along with all my other gear. Never saw it again. I eventually replaced it with a B&O a few years later. It still works. Luckily, they left all my records. Some of those are irreplaceable.

  • Edwin Marcano
    Edwin Marcano 4 months ago +4

    Excellent video. I am glad to see a couple of turntables I have owned. One of my biggest regret is selling my LP-12. However, I am back to vinyl with a VPI Scout. Looking forward to parts and 3. Well done!

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +2

      Thanks! Pt2. is recorded and in editing. Pt3. is under construction and programmed for the New Year.

    • Mr.Sinister
      Mr.Sinister 3 months ago +1

      I would keep my VPI over almost everything on this list.

  • derosa1989
    derosa1989 3 months ago

    Interesting list. Personally my journey was Technics SL-D1 in about 1980, Rega P3 1990, Linn LP-12 2000, Brinkmann Bardo in 2014, with which i'm extremely happy, especially after upgrading to the tube power supply.

  • jeff brown
    jeff brown 3 months ago +2

    I had an AR XA turntable that I bought for about seventy dollars when I was about sixteen years old. I knew nothing about stereo systems, but I liked its minimalist looks. (It was perhaps TOO minimalist, because if you wanted to go from playing 33 RPMs to 45s, you had to lift the platter and then move the belt from one pulley to another).

  • T Brennan
    T Brennan 3 months ago +1

    I have/had all of the first 5 on this list. Using a Howland West test LP I found that the AR-XA has the superior tracking even with a £20 stylus. Thanks for a great series of videos!

  • Ivan Maxwell Kahn
    Ivan Maxwell Kahn 3 months ago +1

    This video has been a wonderful trip down audiophile memory lane.
    My late father was an electronics and recording engineer.
    I do remember at a very young age listening to his Garrard 303 fitted with the Ortofon arm and m/c cartridge.
    These were connected to his Quad valve amplifier and electrostatic speakers in the living room.
    A wonderful combination to own back in the day.
    I also remember many of the upgrades and subsequent improvements to most of the components over the following years as the technology improved.
    I have owned and am familiar with most of the turntables you feature, and agree with your overview.
    Personally I found that the Logic DM 101 turntable fitted with the Alphason titanium arm to have been "head and shoulders" sound wise above the rest of the bunch that I owned.
    I still have my old Linn, it's a lovely turntable, but a tad overrated in comparison.
    I held on to the Thorens and the Logic turntables too.
    I alternate between them to save on the wear on the expensive m/c cartridges.
    I'm not so fussy as I was anymore as I suspect that my hearing has diminished a bit over the years.

  • rsyalom
    rsyalom 3 months ago +2

    Very nice presentation. I purchased a SL 1200MK2 in the mid 1980’s and used it continuously for 30 years then sold it fir more than I originally paid. A fine piece of engineering. But as my other kit was upgraded… it definitely was holding back the sound. I’m super happy with my new red P3 with Ortofon Bronze. Much more detail and separation.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you for your comment and kind appreciation.

  • Paul Shepherd-Smith
    Paul Shepherd-Smith 4 months ago +7

    Thanks for another great video. I have at home the Linn LP12 and the Michell Orbe and enjoy them both. I was born in 1972 so your observation of it being a significant year wasn’t lost on me!

    • Paul Shepherd-Smith
      Paul Shepherd-Smith 3 months ago

      @Boyd Sargeant I had the LP12 originally as a 40th Birthday present to myself. It was secondhand and apart from an amazing Birdseye Maple plinth, it is in terms of space close to a fairly standard Malik level equivalent. It has made its way into my second system now where I have an Auralic Altair G2.1. I chose the G2.1 as I wanted to steam wirelessly due to cabling constraints as well as play back vinyl (the G2.1 has a phono stage) and use it primarily with headphones. The G2.1 has an excellent headphone amp. That left a gap in my main system (Devialet Expert 400, Sonus Faber Olympicia 3 speaker) and I always just loved the look of the Orbe so auditioned. The Orbe has a better arm and cartridge so it’s probably not a like for like comparison but the Orbe just sound more open and produces a bigger sound. Both great though and can’t imagine getting rid of either!

    • Boyd Sargeant
      Boyd Sargeant 3 months ago

      You have both! Which do you prefer and why?

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      :-) Glad you enjoyed it.

  • ianmedium
    ianmedium 4 months ago +2

    Another wonderful and informative video, I am looking forward to the other episodes, thank you for taking the time to make them.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you, that is very kind!. Pt. 2 comes soon...

  • David Rumer
    David Rumer 3 months ago +1

    Loved your video. Can't argue with it. I sold stereos while in college and after graduation in the early to mid 70's. Later I went to work for a loudspeaker company. While a poor student I had a few very tired used Garrard's. My first good new turntable was a Dual 1219. I loved it. Built like a tank and looked fantastic (to me anyway.) Saw a few 301's/401's and TD -124's but never heard them. To me they looked like old washing machines (guess I should have listened to one!) At the time, they were almost free. Same for the AR's. We all thought that they were toys. I literally sold hundreds of the Pioneer PL12's. If you wanted a good table but didn't have much money you couldn't go wrong. $99.00 US at the time. After the 1219, I acquired a Dual 701, a Sony 2251, a Transcriptor (I didn't care what it sounded like, it looked so cool!) and a Ariston RD 11s with a Grace 707 arm (poor man's Linn.) That was my last good table for a long time. My own personal favorite was the the AC direct drive, Sony 2251. It was beautiful (kind of art deco) and sounded fantastic. Mine had the SME 3009 type II Improved on it with a Shure V15 type III. I always regretted getting rid of it (it was replaced by the Ariston.) When I started listening to vinyl again I found a 2251 on ebay and am now listening to that exact combination again. I also use a Thorens TD-126 (an awesome table in its own right) when I want the arm to lift at the end of the record. Anyway, I always that that the Sony was better than the SL-1200. Just my opinion. Maybe if your list was just a little longer.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      If my list was longer… Dual, and many others would be on it. If only 😉 Thanks for your comment

  • Jens Holm
    Jens Holm 3 months ago +1

    Nice video. I like the very calm and relaxed mood. And a great walk down memory lane.. having owned Lenco L75, Pioneer pl12d, Thorens td160, and Technics sl 1300 - the automatic 1200. Thanks a lot 🙂

  • Tim Muston
    Tim Muston 3 months ago +1

    Wow! I currently own two of the turntables on your list - the Pioneer PL12-d and a '90s Rega Planar 3. Great video.

  • Robert Male
    Robert Male 3 months ago

    I enjoyed this video so much! We are of an age. I think, and your recollections and reflections on early hi-fi were great - thank you!

  • Frosty Canada
    Frosty Canada 4 months ago +3

    Harley, thank you for sharing your passion for music, music reproduction and your love for audio gear.
    Enjoyable video as always.

  • Frederic Fein
    Frederic Fein 3 months ago +2

    Very nice, the Lenco L75 gave me a big smile, as a student I had one and I was very proud of it 😊 it was sparkling beautiful an looked like it was double the price it costs. This was followed by a technics SL 150, which was a version with tone arm mounting plate of a SL 1500 direct drive.
    I had an SME 3009/ II Improved with fluid damper mounted on it. Then came a Transrotor AC which I bought with an SME 3009/ III arm but I changed this to my old version II for the better looks. I still use ist today and had to replace the belt last year, a real scandal…. It was running only 45 years ! 😎

  • geobopeter
    geobopeter 3 months ago +2

    Thank you for a very sober and honest video - I am looking forward to part 2 and 3.
    I were there when Rega Planet and Rega Planar was fist introduced in Denmark. Also I can confirm that Technics SL-1200 is back in production and as far as I know there is even a SL-1400 now.
    One of my dear old friends had both the SL-1200 and a Planar and just a few month before his pass away :-/ he asked me to find time to pick them up, together with his 400 LP's - undfortunately he was an alcoholic and just about everything of value disapeared from his home in the last two month of his life.
    So - when a dear friend ask you to help take care of some of his most loved possessions - don't try find the time - take the time no matter what

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thanks for your kind words. So sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.

  • Caroline Leonard
    Caroline Leonard 2 months ago +1

    Must be said that this is a very cool post. I had an original Planar 3 until it finally broke down around 3 years ago. After a temporary TT and auditioning many other TTs, for the money,........ I bought the newest Planar 3. I put a Goldring E3 on it, I prefer a replaceable stylus, and it sounds great. I have yet to listen to a TT that sounds this good for so little, although Pro-ject came close with two of their models. Finally I recently heard the P10 and the Vertere TTs (costing about the same) and I'm totally torn. They both sound excellent, but different flavours of excellent. Once again thanks for the great post.

  • karmachochi
    karmachochi 3 months ago +2

    Great guide to many of the iconic turntables of the last 60 years, Harley. My journey went from SP25 IV through Thorens TD160 / Hadcock Arm to Systemdek /SME III (the original Transcription model). The Thorens was great insofar as it was well engineered and with the Hadcock arm was consistently musical. The Systemdek was chosen for its quality engineering, suspension and SQ - it was never iconic (despite of or perhaps because of the love-it-or-loath-it Nextel finish), but I never felt tempted to change it in favour of the more hyped Linn LP12 - as much as I respect the latter. Happy days, when putting on a 12" slice of vinyl felt like an event! Looking forward to hearing more about the Rega in your listening room :)

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you, very kind. I love your term putting on an LP as an 'event'! That's so true. for me it still is, even though I use streaming and CD's too. Records are always special.

  • Cobar53
    Cobar53 3 months ago +2

    Thank you for a very intelligent walk through history.
    I still have a Rega P3 but I use my Soulines Kubrik DCX mostly. It has one huge nicety - that I can switch cartridges in a jiffy.
    I would not buy a Linn (though I have had one) because all their equipment is way too expensive for what one gets

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you you’re very welcome. Quick cartridge changes can indeed be very useful to experiment

  • Kris P
    Kris P 4 months ago +7

    Thanks for a great video once again, Harley! Always enjoyable and informative! I agree that each turntable merits their place on the list, but I'm missing 2:
    - the Ariston RD11, on wich the Linn Sondek LP12 was based (well...) - not a commercial success, but a great story....
    - the Dual CS-505. Back in the 80s, they were hugely succesful, and, to me at least, they are a trough mark of the era...

    • Paul CG Retired
      Paul CG Retired 27 days ago

      Good Day Kris, as a Linn owner, I would say: "on which the Linn Sondek LP12 "perfected"" 😇

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Hi Kris. absolutely! On reflection, I should have mentioned both Ariston and Dual...

  • Steve B
    Steve B 2 months ago +1

    A wonderful presentation littered with icons of my youth. Growing up in the 70's I couldn't afford many of these benchmarks. However, my choice came down to two direct drive turntables, the Technics featured and a Sony PS X65. The latter is still with me all these years later but the automatics failed during lockdown. A Technics SL1500C has taken up the baton and I've been delighted with it. I must get the Sony looked Someday. I look forward to the remainder of this series.

  • Mel A
    Mel A 3 months ago

    Your videos are just so interesting and educational. It was great to see a few turntables I have direct experience with, namely the TD-160, PL-12D and the P3 which I purchased in 1981. I got rid of it when the motor started running in reverse and Rega wanted £200 to replace it. What a mistake that was. I loved your reveal, was fully expecting a great big heavy beast of a turntable and it turned out to be the P10. That made laugh. I have never heard this particular turntable but of course its known to be a great piece of engineering. Looking forward to part 2 of this series. Thanks for the journey, most enjoyable.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Thank you. You are very kind. glad I made you laugh :-) Pt. 2 is coming out on the 12th. of December (I hope)!

  • Roger Miller
    Roger Miller 3 months ago

    This is a very nice overview of the Top 10 Iconic Turntables. I love my Linn Sondek LP12. Has the rest of the series been released yet?

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thanks Roger. Pt. Comes out on December 12 and Part.3 early in the New Year.

  • Geoff Parkes
    Geoff Parkes 3 months ago

    Great and informative video. I bought a PL12D back in 1978 and apart from changing the cartridge, stylus and headshell within a few months, all I ever changed were styli, belts and acrylic lid. I serviced it regularly and finally sold it in 2018.
    I replaced it with a higher end modern turntable but I really miss that wonderful Pioneer.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thanks Geoff. There's no denying the relationship we build with machines that we appreciate.

  • James Wright
    James Wright 3 months ago +2

    I picked up a Technics sl1700 mk2 semi automatic and ive paired it with an AT 150 SA cartridge and Vista phono stage and the marriage is simply awesome. This setup rivals my digital chain which costs 10x the price.

  • msee
    msee 4 months ago +8

    My first turntable when I was a teenager was a Garrard - the SP25 Mk IV. Then as a student I also upgraded to the Pioneer PL12D/Shure M75EJ. After my student years, when I had more money, this was replaced with a Rega Planar 3/AR cartridge, followed by a Linn LP12/Linn Ittok/K9 setup. I now stream music from Qobuz via an Apple Mac mini and dream about going back to vinyl! C'est la vie : )

    • msee
      msee 4 months ago +1

      @Vicente Sansaloni if you were to upgrade the SP25 MK IV to something like an entry level Rega or Pro-Ject turntable you might find out why vinyl is considered to be more musical and engaging by a lot of folks who are into music rather than 'hi-fi' though... : )

    • Vicente Sansaloni
      Vicente Sansaloni 4 months ago +2

      I have a Garrard SP25 MK IV now, and I enjoy it planning my vinyl record collection, but I still prefer the sound of my CD, SCAD and digital files.
      In my case, the good from using my vinyl, cassette tapes, Minidisc an any other physical media is the experience to do it, not the sound.

  • Mark Davis
    Mark Davis 3 months ago

    Been a Lenco GL75 user and musican. I beleive the use of transcription was meant that you could slow the record down to help transcribe notes which may have been played too fast to pick out. Also records where not always pressed at standard pitch so you could also fine tune the record to the correct pitch( not speed. )

  • Joseph Callan
    Joseph Callan 3 months ago

    Just like Duofold (below), the vain pursuit of perfection kept me poor for a number of years - from 1974 till the end of 1979 when the plug was finally pulled. In the mid 70s, the turntable/arm/cartridge was ThorensTD125/SME 3009/Shure V15 type 3. There was an outfit here in Australia named Garrett Bros. advertising "The Parabolic Stylus" . They would remove the original stylus, and replace it with a parabolic stylus ground and polished by someone in Weinz (was it?)in West Germany, returning the original stylus mounting with the replacement stylus mounted on it. I took a punt, and tried it...the differences were obvious, all of them GOOD! Channel separation, signal-to-noise ratio, thd...etc, etc,etc. Now 68yo.

  • Zevon Kenneth de Tonssk

    Thanks Harley, that brought back fond memories of my time selling HiFi gear in Sydney Australia back in the late 60s through to the mid 70s. I've since moved on to be a graphic designer in New York, but I digress. I too was a great exponent of creating a quality source signal. My favorite speakers were the Ira Gales (with the big chrome ends), inefficient and pricy, so personally I settled for Tannoys and then Linn Cans when I moved to a smaller unit with intolerant nieghbours. What I wanted to share, is in demos my focus was on pick up cartridges as I could create good margins on sales with pricy pick-ups while discounting the amp and speakers. I loved the sound of the Fidelity Research moving coil and used in in a AR XA turntable (which I had bought for myself). I would compare that with a Linn Sondek/SME arm with a Shure pick up and the cheaper AR AX/ Fidelity Research sounded better. Crazy how I gave up my vinyl when I can the New York 20 years ago. I wish I had it now. And I can assure you now, that digital doesn't have the soul in its sound compared with analog. Those subtle inaudible harmonics just aren't there. I could bring tears to customer's eyes listening to Dusty Springfield's Spooky or Coleman Hawkins', Softly. And see the hair stand up on the back of their necks. I never heard a CD or MP3 that could do that.
    I think one of the real issues for home audiophiles is feedback with vinyl. The Linn Sondek was definitely superior to the AR XA in that regard. I think the Rega came available around the same time I was heading back to college so I'm put that choice on my list when I get to reinstate vinyl in my life. I have designed an interesting concept for speaker stand that isolate vibration (if you're interested).

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thanks for your very interesting comment. Especially the Linn / AR comparison. Speaker stand isolation has been done before by Max Townsend. But I am always interested. Feel free to contact via our website

  • Andrew Thomas
    Andrew Thomas 3 months ago +1

    Wonderful video as usual, my very first deck I got as a young man in the 1970s was that Pioneer in your list and later I upgraded to the Michell one with an SME Arm.
    Happy days but my longing was always for the LP12 and I now have Linn Klimax so I guess I got there in the end Harley 😋

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you Andrew. Very kind! Glad you got there in end 😉

  • Johnny Cashless Comedy
    Johnny Cashless Comedy 4 months ago +1

    Really enjoyable and looking forward to more.
    A few of my favorite developments in vinyl playback;
    Once I heard really good copper center weights and periphery rings then platter matts from Larry Denham at TTW I couldn't go back. It really lowers the distortion in vinyl playback and takes care of warps. Then I bought his full table, the momentous supreme.
    The next revelation was the Strain Gauge phono cartridge from Peter Lederman at Soundsmith. So low mass you can can play acetates 100 times with no loss, and sports car like precision tracing every corner of the groove to deliver master tape type sound.
    The final development for me was discovering active vibration cancelling platforms. I got into them a long time ago, from labs closing, etc. Just like how they focus an electron microscope, it focuses the turntable's sound.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you Johnny! Very interesting comment... thanks for sharing.

  • flowntn
    flowntn 3 months ago +3

    Stumbled on by accident, and….. what a nostalgia trip. From my late teens the first “hi fi” I heard was my girlfriend uncle’s (301) which got me started. My very own starter was a TD-150, and then on. The LP12 (original) on the sideboard now in pristine condition but now ornamental (see below). Somewere along the way the LP12 was “borrowed” by my son, then Rega 3, Technics SL? (Parallel tracking) which I had till around 2009, when the LP12 was returned to me. Must be close on 1000 lps in our store room languishing, all classical save a few including Dark Side of the Moon. And then there was the rest of the varied other components from Quad 303, Stax headphones, Naim, ESL57, KEF “Daleks”(can’t remember the number), and even a pair of Leak mono valve amps refurbished by Leak themselves outside Leeds where we lived. Now……. A pair of Apple HomePods but all my listening is through Phonak P90 hearing aids 😥. The best? Naim, LP12 SME Ortofon MC, and magnificent stacked Quad ESL 57s 1975-1979. Look forward to your next instalment.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Thank you very much for your wonderful contribution to this story. Funny how this passion of ours starts. Pt. Comes out tomorrow (12 December).

  • Brittony
    Brittony Month ago +1

    What a treat to be educated in this way, I still hear music but rarely make time to really listen, I guess as an old club DJ it's a bad habit. I was disappointed not to buy a Technics 1200 on my travels but I did get my mitts on a Technics 1210 mk2 and it more than does the job when I fire it up. To make matters worse I have the Technics SL-P1200 loitering in the darkness of my cellar....both of them in beautiful condition.
    The SL-P1200 was a nightmare to mix cd's with BTW as any DJ will know.
    It's not the price value that I considered so much (although it does help) it's just to actually look, touch and feel these heavy duty beasts that I was so happy and proud to be in control of in front of an audience. Sadly my kids will never understand the pleasure the Technics bring me ...philistines that they both are, I guess you can't have everything ha!🎚🎛🎧

  • Karl Kristensen
    Karl Kristensen Month ago +1

    Very, very interesting. So pleased, you chose to include the PL-12D.Over the years I have restored a number of PL-12D's and sold them on to young people just discovering the pleasure of listening to vinyl. These people call them 'retro' though - not vintage... Personally I play on a PL-71 and a PL-31D - both with Pioneer MC pickups.

  • Richard Cline
    Richard Cline 2 months ago

    As I stated in another video about turntables, I guess I am in the "cheap" range because I still use an older Technics SL-D1 direct drive turntable. It is quiet, solid and noise free. And yes, I do own and use the Ortofon 2M Red cartridge but I also own several others and due to the SME headshells I can easily swap them out for the sound I am looking for. My usual cartridge for records in the mint or near mint condition is the Shure V15 Type IV with the hyperelliptical stylus which can be really rough on the wallet to replace. I replaced my Pioneer PL-112D belt driven turntable with the Technics as my main turntable but I love both of them. Nothing automatic, both are full manuals. I just got a great deal on the Technics and saw it as a step up in my system. Bottom line, it's what you can afford that will give you good service and do the job for you. This is NOT a hobby for keeping up with the Jones', it's a hobby to let you enjoy your vinyl on a budget you an afford.

  • John T
    John T 4 months ago +2

    Another great episode. Thanks for taking the time to put these together.

  • Ron Wess MusaQ
    Ron Wess MusaQ 2 months ago

    Really enjoyed this my fellow music buddies wouldn't last for this but it was great... I love turntables I think I can blame this one Pops he had a massive setup so as a kid I really got into it. Happy New Year, PeaceLove&GodBless

  • Keegan
    Keegan 4 months ago +2

    Lovely video, very much looking forward to parts 2 and 3!

  • TM
    TM 4 months ago +5

    Great video as always. Thank you.
    The Technics 1200 is in fact still being produced.
    The 1200G is very high on MY list of potential turntables and may very well be “the one”. Time will tell though.
    Thanks again. Looking forward to parts two and three !!

  • William Heppe
    William Heppe 3 months ago +2

    I could not wait to write! My first turntable was a Dual 1009 that I used it while I was in highschool. Later, while I was in the military service, I read all of the magazines and, before I left Viet Nam, I ordered an AR XA turntable, as well as some AR 4x speakers. I was off to the snob-races! I couldn't wait to unpack it when ai got home. As you say, it is SO simple and the hammer test is true! I used to bang on the deck for people, to prove it. In the end, what I found a bit annoying, was the motor; it ran with synchronous-precision but it started as if it were a clock-motor because that's essentially was that. Another feature AR pushed was the "viscous-damping" in the tone arm and suspension. Eventually, I had to clean and re-lubricate the tonearm-pivot. Not really a big deal and I kind of miss it for the novelty of that simplicity. (People really used to laugh at it!) but I would not buy one now; they just take up too much space. Eventually, unless you're running a turntable museum, You'll wish for some advancement-in-technology.
    I searched again and decided on a Thorens TD-145 MK 2., which had a Hysteresis-Synchronous motor that starts like a rocket..The 145mkII was being market-dumped by Leo's Stereo, in California, in the late '70's or early '80's. Ostensibly, it had the same suspensionas the AR but It would NOT pass the hammer-test. I now have two Thorens turntables, the second one is a TD-124 and I love that one too. It sits right next to me in my recording studio.
    I also have a Technics linear-track-arm turntable which I bought for my recording studio, where I do re-mastering but it did not have the ability to choose individual tracks or come in in the middle of the record so, it languishes...waiting. It is not, in any way, in the league of turntables you're speaking of.
    The worst turntable I ever bought was before the Thorens, when I was influenced by the DJ craze, was a Fisher DD; ("The platter is the motor!"). It had NO suspension and, in fact, would howl at me as a truck went by on my street! I returned it to Leo's and bought the TD-145MKII.
    Great video, Harley. Thanks

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thanks William, much appreciated and thanks for your contribution

  • Brad Hayes
    Brad Hayes 3 months ago +2

    I always thought the Bang & Olufsen linear-tracking turntables were cool. I still have a Technics SL-1700 direct-drive turntable. I always liked the orange neon light with prism variable-speed adjustment/tachometer.

  • Stephen Hall
    Stephen Hall 3 months ago +1

    A good overview of non-specialist turntables and Part 2 is eagerly awaited.
    Apart from the AR XA and Taurus I have owned or at least lived with most of these turntables and am of the vintage of the 'snob and scam' period. Fortunately I trusted my own ears and those of occasional colleagues at the BBC.
    Whereas the Garrard had a long run and big following in my native UK I could always hear the chugging and 'ringing' switch springs which did not usually get to the cartridges I liked but persisted from the actual mechanism, no matter how well maintained they were.
    The perspex 'Transcriptor' was style over substance and several swaps by the distributor made no difference, mainly because of inherent vibration and terrible wow. These were just badly made but had a notably stable spindle. This solid aspect appeared later in Planars.
    The Lenco 75 needs careful handling in setting up and the best I owned had a modified front end of tone arm from an SME 3009. If well maintained (not needed often) these remain superb considering that innards are similar to Garrard's wheels. Accurate speed correction has never been bettered and I have never encountered the problem you cite.
    Yes, the Pioneer PL12 D was a modest classic and although the snake tone arm should not have worked (wear, resonance etc) it did work and was easy to set up when we were all chasing a 1.5 gm tracking weight. The Pioneer did not fare so well with Decca and Ortofon but was not designed for MC cartridges.
    Technics produced two direct drive decks before the SL-1200 with marker holes to accept SME tone arms and I was lucky enough to acquire the vanilla model with a 3009 S2 to be fitted -- by someone else as I couldn't trust myself. Using Shure cartridges and occasional modern AT ones I can honestly say that nothing ever sounded as good -- well did NOT sound as that was the point -- except other Technics and a couple of lateral trackers. Like it or not belt couplings have inherent noise and stretch leading to wow and that is why I could never take the Linn as solemnly as most other people in the self-fancying 'audiophile' club. We were ridiculous.
    The LP-12 was hugely overpriced and subject to power line problems which were never an issue on Thorens but I lived with a few off and on to test possible prejudice.
    The appearance of the Rega P3 dealt a further blow to Linn in my mind, even Linn with power supplies of silly names and prices and (for belt driven) improved over the years. Rega seemed able to reduce wow by using a very high quality spindle and short belt configuration later refined by reasonably priced power supplies in the box.
    I am really looking forward to Part 2.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thank you very much for your very interesting comment. Pt. 2 comes out on Monday 12 December

  • Peter Mitchell
    Peter Mitchell 3 months ago

    Some realy iconic decks described here. I'm not at all suprised that the Lin LP12 made the list as I recall at the time the Hi-Fi magezines did wax lyrical over it.
    I would be interested to hear your view on the Pink Triangle deck.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      It’s a long, long time since I heard one. Would be fun though!

  • Gerald Holley
    Gerald Holley 3 months ago

    Interesting choice at the price point its up there with the very best. I did get to hear the latest LP12 flagship back end of the summer, it was astonishingly good but of course its pricey too

  • Vicente Sansaloni
    Vicente Sansaloni 4 months ago +3

    Nice video and nice turntables selection.
    Despite I prefer digital sources, because I believe you can get better quality with less investment, I always keep a turntable in my system, and 3 years ago I got a Garrard SP25 MK IV that belongs to my father in law, I repeared it, build a new plinth and I am enjoying it.
    Really excited about the following 2 videos in the serie.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  4 months ago

      Hi Vincente... I owned an SP25MKlV too ;-) You're right about sound quality per $. But a turntable has something special that's hard to quantify...

  • Mark Swanson
    Mark Swanson 3 months ago +1

    I was delighted you covered AR. Still listening to my XA that I bought in 1970. If I win the lottery I’ll hop on a flight with it so you can give it a listen! Thanks for the wonderful video. Oh, and by the way, my brother had a couple of AR 3a speakers - fantastic sound.

    • Gabe Cicale
      Gabe Cicale 3 months ago +3

      I'm still kicking myself for selling my AR turntable at a yard sale for $10. Over the years I've tried to concoct a good reason to make myself feel better, but there just isn't any.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Lovely comment

  • Phil Parker
    Phil Parker 3 months ago

    I still have, and love, my Rega Planar 3 from 1987 with its thick glass platter, Rega arm and original Linn K9 cartridge (currently holding a 95P Paratrace stylus).

  • Jffy Bavis
    Jffy Bavis 4 months ago +2

    Fabulous bit of history. So many of the younger listeners are discovering vinyl recordings this helps them appreciate progress. One thing I remember reading about Linn Sondek turntables, back in the early 80's, was they aged their platters for an extended period before they installed on their turntables and sold them. Whether there is any truth to that I don't know.

    • Andrew Crossley
      Andrew Crossley 3 months ago

      Their main claim as I recall is that they used aerospace manufacturing lathes. This gave them tight tolerances in production, and this high standard of engineering was the main aspect of the high cost.

    • Terry Byford
      Terry Byford 3 months ago

      Added to the mystique of the Brand that Linn were pushing at the time, I suspect.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Thank you. Never heard of 'platter aging' sounds very curious indeed. ;-)

  • tony hodgkinson
    tony hodgkinson 4 months ago +1

    Great video, the only matter I have with Rega arms are their lack of height adjustment. I've owned a planar 2, two P3's, a P5, two LP12's, a Gyrodeck, a Garrard 401, a Project and now use a Technics 1210GR with an SME 309 tonearm, and I love it.

  • Billy Windsock
    Billy Windsock 4 months ago +8

    An excellent video Harley. I grew up a few years after you and was lucky enough to have an LP12 for some years. I sold it to fund university! I never sold my LP's and stored them carefully until Covid led me to a new turntable. I chose a Michell Gyro, but the Rega P8 was also on my list. I was a hifi snob as well and Rega was sneered at, until you heard one objectively. There are a number of fine machines available now, but the huge oil rig dimension machines don't excite me at all.

    • Erik Scothron
      Erik Scothron 3 months ago

      until you heard one objectively??

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  4 months ago +1

      Thank you. Very kind. Lovely comment. I am with you all the way.

  • acronus
    acronus 4 months ago +10

    I bought a second hand P3 about 4 years ago. Absolutely no regrets, and I don't see much need to upgrade it any time soon.

  • Brian Parker
    Brian Parker 3 months ago +1

    I had the pleasure of touring the SME engineering works earlier this year, in the company of the CEO. They are currently completely refurbishing, upgrading and re-engineering Garrard 301 turntables - making them look and sound wonderful. You will need a spare £25,000 though!

  • Zen & the Art of the Guardian Sudoku Puzzle

    Thank you for this stroll down memory lane and your effort putting this video together. My list would be similar to yours although I might have added the Pink Triangle as it also caused a lot of fuss as the first possible competitor to the Linn Sondek. I spent hours and hours in the 70s auditioning equipment at Graham's HiFi in London. This was an important sales technique that they had at the time: give a potential customer lots of listening time with no pressure to buy and they will come back to you. I always wanted an LP12 but couldn't afford one. (I ended up with a Rega Planar 2 as that was as much as I could spend at the time.) However, the demos of the LP12 were not lost on me. Even when switching to cheaper amps and speakers, the Linn system often sounded better.

    • Stephen Watson
      Stephen Watson 3 months ago +1

      I did the same at Subjective Audio comparing the Pink Triangle and Linn Sondek. I think I spent from 10am to 4pm listening. In the end I felt they sounded as good as each other, just different. The sales guy said well if it helps, farting near a Linn can put it out of adjustment and if you play singles you just switch between them but a total faff on the Linn. I bought the PT and had it until two years ago due to a change of circumstance - I loved it, paired with QUAD amplification, ESL63s and an Alphason arm and an Audi Technical moving coil. Beautiful music for years.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      You’re very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it. Lovely story thanks

  • Carmen andthedevil
    Carmen andthedevil 4 months ago +43

    I sold Regas from 83 to 2015 and was always impressed. I'm a member of an Australian Forum now and there is a creeping mendacity towards the cancelling of the brand on this Forum. Technics is the be all and end all. Glad to see someone in the business that appreciates Rega for what it is.

    • Paul CG Retired
      Paul CG Retired 27 days ago

      Their ancillary gear is also of Top Quality. I own the Rega MC Fono and it simply transformed my listening experience (driving a well-equipped Linn Sondek LP 12).

    • the real Pierre Poilevre
      the real Pierre Poilevre 2 months ago

      At least a Technics can maintain a solid speed and maintain 33.33 RPM. Also have better W/F #'s. I have never come across a unit that could not be restored to like new condition with very little effort. I have nothing negative to say about Technics. Even the SLB10 is a great little minimalist entry level table. No need to poo-poo Technics, give them credit.

    • the real Pierre Poilevre
      the real Pierre Poilevre 2 months ago

      @C Burgess phoney audiophoolery speak.

    • Damien Boyle
      Damien Boyle 2 months ago +1

      My first and 2nd and 3rd TT were all Rega P3. I sold one to a friend as was moving house. I have 2nd and 3rd in use as part of my setups around the home 42 years on.
      Some say that time spent with a snooker cue is signs of a misspent youth. Well I would linger for hours in and around the
      Hi Fi dealers and was so taken with Rega as part of a set up that I got an wk/end job selling and eventually servicing items of kit.
      Mostly it was a cartridge or stylus or belt replacement that did not need to be replaced at all. It is great to hear your experience and enthusiasm for the brand and the fact that you had the specialist knowledge needed in order to sell these marvellous TT.

    • countdebleauchamp
      countdebleauchamp 2 months ago

      Loved my P2 I had many years ago. Wonderful pace and 'slam'.

  • STDunne
    STDunne 3 months ago

    WOW! the Rega10 I would never have thought that. I bought a Rega 2 in 1977 with it's glass platter, it was a gorgeous TT. I have since moved on to using a Clearaudio TT.
    That is a rerrific video, I enjoyed it immensely, thank you.

  • Petra Kann
    Petra Kann 4 months ago +13

    Looking forward to this series of presentations

  • Bogdan Radu
    Bogdan Radu 3 months ago +3

    Around 8 years ago I’ve had the incredible luck of finding a used Mark 3 Oracle Delphi with an Alphason arm, for what it turned up to be a little over 1200 Canadian Dollar. With the upgraded power supply as well! This is essentially as close to perfection one can get under 10 grand, and pretty close to perfection regardless of price. Phenomenal sound and phenomenal looks. Perhaps your video should have a few honourable mention entries? The Oracle Delphi would definitely be worth mentioning. And others, like VPI or Kuzma or Sota, if I think about it.

    • Bogdan Radu
      Bogdan Radu 2 months ago

      @countdebleauchamp I wonder if the slight lack of bite had something to do with a slight compliance mismatch between the arm and cartridge. Sometimes that’s the case but I’m not familiar with your combo.

    • countdebleauchamp
      countdebleauchamp 2 months ago +2

      I had an Oracle Delphi III, Well-tempered arm, Audioquest MC cartridge. I heavily modified the table to upgrade the PS, the bearing, the suspension towers, clamp.
      Strengths - accuracy, neutrality, openness unmatched by any other turntable I've ever heard.
      Weaknesses - PITA to get correctly set up, and maintain a proper setup; sound lacked a bit of punch, like that a Linn or Rega has. But I've never heard a Linn or Rega with the openness or neutrality of the Oracle.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Absolutely, so many terrible omissions!

  • Studio Pluche
    Studio Pluche 2 months ago +1

    Glad to see the PL-12 make the list. About ten years ago I was looking for a good turntable and one day I found a PL-12 in the garbage near my home. All it needed was some TLC and now it's paired with a Pioneer SX-424 I bought for ten bucks in a thrift store, and both play absolutely great!

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  2 months ago +2

      This is exactly what I love about our hobby. One doesn’t need to spend a fortune to enjoy music!

  • Kurt Ofer
    Kurt Ofer 3 months ago +2

    I always thought that the story was that Ivor Treffenbaum drove around from audio store to audio store with an LP 12 in his trunk. And only after demonstrating how the LP 12 truly change the musical experience, the modern high end audio segment was born. But I might be wrong about that

    • Florin Coter
      Florin Coter 3 months ago

      No, you are not wrong. From personal knowledge.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      It’s certainly an interesting concept!

  • Nathan Losman
    Nathan Losman 4 months ago +2

    I’ve owned an XA; the table and suspension are really good. Some cartridges will hum like crazy (ie Grado) near the inner grooves. The arm is the design’s weakness though many swear by the arm to this day. I believe that going back to the late 50’s early 60’s tables could be quite good but arms and cartridges were primitive by modern standards
    The Pioneer PL12D was a great lower priced table and in many ways similar to the Tri/Kenwood KD1033

  • Michael Brian
    Michael Brian 3 months ago +2

    What an excellent review of the important milestones of modern turntables. I was in Hi Fi retail in the late 60’s and early 70’s and it was the Garrard 301 and 401 and the space age Transcriptors that made a great impression on me, though I could never afford to own any of them. A superb presentation, thank you .

    • braaimanook
      braaimanook 3 months ago

      I had a 401 partnered with the Transcriptors Fluid Arm with the Shure v15mk4 cartridge. The arm whilst innovative was in my opinion a bit of a disaster. The pivot which was or seemed to be a piece of mild steel fashioned to a point one end after a period of time the point wore down. The silicon fluid used to migrate and thus everything it touched was sticky. The sound was brilliant however, but that was in the main I believe,down to the KEF transmission line speakers I built from an old Wireless World article design utilising Dr. Bailey's longhaired wool.

    • chipperkeithmgb
      chipperkeithmgb 3 months ago

      Had a 401. Got a transcriptors. To replace it love it

  • Ian Crossley
    Ian Crossley 3 months ago

    I still have my Garrard 0100C from 1970. It's the one with the tonearm like a car suspension to keep the needle alligned with the groove. I always thought that was a good idea.

  • Luis Mántaras
    Luis Mántaras 3 months ago +10

    Since my born language is Spanish, my pleasure is to understand every word you say. Clear pronunciation and right speaking speed! I have a Technics SL 2000.

    • Srdjan Stojanovic
      Srdjan Stojanovic 2 months ago +1

      Exactly the same with me, only my mother's tongue is Serbian. Also have a Technics, SL1210MK2, and do enjoy it.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Thanks. Very kind. Enjoy your Technics

  • J E
    J E 3 months ago

    Great video and nice to hear the background on turntables that I’ve heard, owned and some that I’d love to hear.
    The pioneer is indeed a classic and have never thought about the ergonomics with the student in mind. Ha
    A small correction. Michell is pronounced, Michelle. I still own a gyro deck and would never get rid of it even though I believe digital replay has improved immeasurably.

  • statuescher
    statuescher 2 months ago +1

    Very enjoyable and some real icons there. I regret getting rid of my Pioneer PL960 some years back. Recently back into my vinyl and bought a secondhand Dual CS5000 which is a beauty both performance and looks wise.

  • Charles F
    Charles F 3 months ago +1

    This is a refreshing, well-spoken presentation and I enjoyed it. I bought a new turntable in 2020, in part because of concerns my current one at the time (a VPI) was old and I wouldn’t be able to afford a comparable replacement if it quit on me after I retired in a couple of years; I wasn’t playing records much and thought I needed a jolt. The VPI’s replacement is a Sota Sapphire VI but I still haven’t gotten back to playing vinyl. Videos like this one, however, will pique my interest. Maybe enough to re-engage my vinyl collection and get some use out of the Sota. Thank you.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago

      Thanks Charles. Now you’ve got your new turntable, indeed it’s time to dig out the vinyl. You won’t regret it! 😉

  • Adrian Conti
    Adrian Conti 3 months ago +2

    Wonderful list of turntables, happy owner of a Rega P3, so glad you chose the P10, just a wonderful machine!

  • Paul Grooveside
    Paul Grooveside 4 months ago +4

    What a perceptive and thorough list!
    Through the decades, I've owned a Garrard, a Thorens, a direct drive Technics, an LP12 and a Gyrodec. My Gyrodec sounds wonderful. My friend had a Rega P3, it was a super record player, I'll be fascinated to learn about your P10 in. Part 2!

    • Paul Grooveside
      Paul Grooveside 4 months ago +1

      @Richard Elliott I find that the Gyrodec, with my Alphason Xenon arm and Goldring Excel cartridge makes every record sound like a live performance. The sense of space and life it brings from a record is fabulous. I'm glad you love yours too.

    • Richard Elliott
      Richard Elliott 4 months ago +2

      I also own a gyrodec and it was a great improvement over a very nice sounding later model AR turntable , the eb101. I wanted something which would get me into the ballpark of high end table sound without tremendous money and have been very pleased.
      I became aware of the product when viewing a bunch of pictures of owners' high end expensive turntables posted from a very high end Italian Hi Fi club. There, among all these pictures of tables that cost like a small car was submitted a single picture of a gyro table.
      I figured if it could hold it's own among that company , it was worth investigating, since home theatre had made a turntable listening demo impossible at the time, and I needed a very solid, buy one time and keep it, choice. When I discovered that old man Michell , as his last undertaking before his death , had voiced a hot rodded Rega arm to the table, the techno arm, that allowed for VTA adjustment on the fly, I correctly figured that the established symbiotic match would serve my limited budget well. The isolating, from external acoustics, suspension design works very well in my small living room listening space. the soundstage is incredible.

    • Paul Grooveside
      Paul Grooveside 4 months ago

      I also had a Revolver Super, which was brilliant. I lost it in a burglary, otherwise I'd have kept it for ever. And a Pro-ject 6 mark 1, excellent value as a 'poor man's Gyrodec' until I could afford the Michell.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  4 months ago

      Thank you. Very kind. It took some work 😉

  • Joe Murphy
    Joe Murphy 4 months ago +8

    Nice job. My LP12 dates to 1984 but I've only owned it for 15 years. Looking forward to episodes 2 & 3.

    • Joe Murphy
      Joe Murphy 3 months ago +3

      ​@Scott Chegg Why did it take 9 LP12s for you to realize how overrated they are?

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  3 months ago +1

      Hi Joe, thanks for your kind words. Pt. 2 coming soon. Pt3 is in the planning for the New Year ... more videos to come for sure.

    • Scott Chegg
      Scott Chegg 3 months ago +1

      Ditch the lp12 get a well tempered or funk firm!! Lp12 very over rated.
      I have owned 9 over the years

  • Thomas Stambaugh
    Thomas Stambaugh 2 months ago +1

    I was very happy with the Dual 2901 that I bought in 1975. I kept and used it until the mid to late 1980s. I bought the Dual 2901, a Crown DC300a, and a Crown IC150 at the same time. The store threw in a pair of bookshelf speakers for free (I don't remember the brand). In 1983, I upgraded to a pair of Magnapan MG1-bs and added a powered subwoofer. That system was VERY revealing, and the Dual 2901 never let me down.

    • Pearl Acoustics
      Pearl Acoustics  2 months ago

      Indeed, as I mention in Pt.3 the Dual was an oversight in my talk

  • Vic G
    Vic G 3 months ago +1

    interesting selection for your list. I can tell you that I was researching and buying vintage turntables in the the late 2000 before the craze, to listen to my 0riginal 80 Albums and 45 collections. I have also built up an extensive SACD collection. Digital is superior in many ways to vinyl, but I still buy vinyl cause I cannot find some songs in any other format. Vinyl can sound really good if it was well recorded. Same goes for any format. Enjoy.