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- Published on Feb 7, 2023 veröffentlicht
- Ukraine will receive more Western tanks to help defend itself against Russia.
Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark will supply Ukraine with at least 100 old-generation Leopard 1 tanks.
Germany produces the majority of modern heavy tanks in Europe
German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said that between 20 and 25 of the tanks would arrive by summer about 80 by the end of the year and another 100 next year.
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Well done Germany. We all know this hasn't been an easy choice for you to make, but when it comes down to what's right or wrong, it becomes easier to accept. The rest of Europe and the UK are 100% with you.
Regarding these Leopards, then it was not originally a German idea to donate them to Ukraine. Denmark already have the recently received (the last to be delivered from the German factory here in 2023) best of the very best of the latest upgraded Leopard 2A7V, that cannot be donated to Ukraine, because they would then have to be downgraded to 2A6 and stripped of the latest Danish high-tech, if they were to be donated, so instead Denmark pledged to donate all of the 19 brand new self-propelled Caesar howitzers recently purchased from France, though Ukraine had only asked for 6 of them.
However, since then there has been a growing political pressure in the Danish parliament for the government to approve a Danish donation of Leopards, and it so happens that Denmark back in 2010 sold it's 99 older but upgraded Danish surplus Leopard 1A5 tanks to the German company Flensburger Fahrzeugbau Gesellschaft who keep, upgrade and sell older tanks and armored personnel carriers from both the Danish and German military, and they had not yet upgraded and sold the 99 Danish surplus Leopards 1A5, which then were still available. So Zelenskyy and the Danish PM openly talked about this around a week ago when the Danish PM visited Mykolaiv in Ukraine.
The Danish tanks were originally used during the war in the Balkans in 1994 and upgraded up until 2005. The German company said that they will be able to deliver 20 of the 99 Danish Leopards, upgraded and ready in perfect condition for battle within the next few month + 20 more within a further 3 month, with Denmark donating the Leopards while asking Germany and the Netherlands to pay for their battle ready maintenance-upgrade.
Besides the Danish Leopard's, Germany have also approved German arms-maker Rheinmetall’s plans to sell 88 of their older Leopards 1A5, so that they can be donated to Ukraine. How many more Leopards that will be delivered by Poland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Canada, Spain and so forth, is yet to be disclosed.
Well done Germany to repeat 1945
Hahaha
But with sarmat
lol 😆 😂 😅
@Jumping saucepangetting paid a potato per post beats dying in a ditch outside Bakhmut I suppose
@Jumping saucepan .. Russia do not seem to have any operational RS-28 Sarmat's as of yet. They said that they successfully fired a test model back in April last year, but since then noting further seem to have happened, and the head of Roscosmos in charge of their development, Dmitri Rogozin, was then later replaced a few month later. So I suspect that it's not going all too well with the production of operational Sarmat's.
Agreed, it's obvioust that it was a tough decision for them but hopefully they realized that Ukraine is what stands between us and russia now. If Ukraine will fall - putin will not stop, it's Poland or Baltic countries next.
The world must rally even stronger around Ukraine and help it defend its independence and territorial integrity.
Damn right!
Not everyone wants and finance this unnecessary war
@Harris Actually, it is very necessary, and Ukraine nor the West wanted it. Russia started it. Maybe if you weren't ignorant of geopolitics you would understand.
@Harris Ofcourse this war isn’t necessary. How about you tell that to the agressor, not the victim and his friends?
We need to contribute more with modern tanks. Every EU country should give 10% of its current operational inventory.
In Ukraine, they will cripple Russia and get rid of the main foe we are in an arms race with.
Great sarmat to London is a nice 👌
Agreed, this is such a no-brainer really. It's much better to pay now with a small amount of money/our old equipment instead of paying much more later with our army's blood.
This is a very good idea, the main thing is that the leaders of the EU countries listen to it.
Make a common contribution to freeing the world from the fear of Russian aggression
I support his words. We can’t stop supporting to Ukraine. It is impossible. They have done so many achievements, stop now will be the fatality mistake.
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Imagine Germany said that during WW1.
lol yes, "SO MANY ACHIEVMENTS" like losing 25% of their country!wonderful!
Better to have Leo-1 tanks in significant numbers initially than no tanks at all.
It's an interim move before the superior tanks flow in eventually.
100 is not significant.
Huitler turned over in hisGrave.
The leopard 1a5 is actually still a quite good mbt, it has thermals and optics on par with the leo 2a4.
1:07 I've always absolutely loved the look of the AMX, one of the most unique looking tanks ever
No, those are not AMX-13. Those are SK-105 Kurassier, an Austrian light tank. People usually misidentify the 2 tank types because they look somewhat the same. They share the same turret, but the AMX-13 usually has a 75 mm or 90 mm gun, while the Kurassier has a 105 mm gun. the AMX's turret is a bit farther to the rear of the tank while the Kurassier's is more center-line.
@Nguyen Mai Their oscillating turret design had many advantages, most notably a very fast autoloader that didn't require the cannon to return to its neutral position after firing. If you observe modern tanks carefully, you'll notice that they have to perform this maneuver every time they fire, which can take a few potentially valuable seconds.
So add some ralley stripes on it to make it looking more unique.
Leopard 2's are 'Logistically' the best tank for Ukrainians. The Abrams and Challenger 2's are great tanks too, but more of a Logistic challenge as they would need overseas Logistic support from US/UK to manufacture and supply spares to Ukraine. With Poland having Logistic support for their Leopard 2's on the 'doorstep' of Ukraine from Germany and no need to go airborne or ship (which can be easily tracked), its 'Logistically' a better option - a Tank made in Europe with Logistic support set up to support all the Operators in Europe, they have everything in place already. Poland could set up a 'Hub' for training and even a repair/spares centre for Ukraine just over the border.
As for Ammo, the sooner they can get Western tanks, the 'better' off they will be with supplies of Soviet era Tank ammunition 'dwindling' and Ukraine are struggling to resupply - its not as if their Allies had a LOT of Soviet tank ammo, but as the Leopard 2 and Abrams share the same 'NATO Standard' barrel, they also share the same Ammo so all the 'stockpiles' of Tank Ammo in Europe/UK/US can be supplied to Ukraine.
Its all well and good having 'Heavy' Armour like Russian Tanks, but if your Ammo stockpile is running low and/or struggling to resupply as Russia isn't [intentionally] resupplying them, they are not very effective anymore...
Likely Leo2's A4's and A6's and Leopards with upgrades will lilely be a good long term MBT's for Ukraine. Marder and CV90's and Bradley's of these IFV we will see which works best. I think AMX 10rc will be good for recon and peace time boader patol. M113's field ambulance, radar, and morter. Striker and MRAPS APC with a 30mm gun added back on. M1A1 Abrims not so likely to stay long term, but we will see how each does.
you know that poland also operats Abrams?
They got the logistics in poland for them too.
similarly the USA has massive logistics bases in germany and about 500 M1A2´s stored in germany.
Those 180 Leopard tanks from Germany are the latest model of the Leopard 1. It is the version A5. Sure, it has "only a 105 mm canon" - the Leopard 2 has 120mm .....but the Leopard 1 A5 has the same stabilizer system as the new Leopard 2 (fire on point while high speed driving). That is the big difference compared to the russian T62 or T72 tanks.
and thermal vision
Trouble is that Leopard 1 is paper thin even with turret add-on armor, so even T-55 can pierce right through it. A rifled 105mm main gun is great for cheap infantry support when used with spin-stabilized dumb ammunition that is more accurate than dumb 120mm smoothbore fin-stabilized ammunition but as far as tank combat goes, 105 will struggle with most fronts of tanks from mid 80ties and beyond like T-80U, T-90 and perhaps even some up-armored T-72s depending on ammunition provided, so, in fact, you got better chances with infantry carried Javelin than with 105mm gun of Leopard when dealing with enemy tanks. This may not be that much of an issue in hit & run defensive role when camouflaged and well positioned to hit enemy flanks which is what was Leopard 1 build for as it was not well-armored tank even during the introduction and is hardly a frontline main battle tank these days, more like an overweight infantry support light tank/fast (in off-road terms) tank destroyer similar to tracked gun things deployed by the airborne troops.
@Ionor Rea ... Regarding these Leopards, then there were a growing political pressure in the Danish parliament for the government to approve a Danish donation of Leopards, and it so happens that Denmark back in 2010 sold it's 99 older but upgraded Danish surplus Leopard 1A5 tanks to the German company FFG in the northern German town Flensburg who keep, upgrade and sell older tanks and armored personnel carriers from both the Danish and German military, and they had not sold the 99 Danish surplus Leopards 1A5, which then were still available. So Zelenskyy and the Danish PM openly talked about this more than a week ago when the Danish PM visited Mykolaiv in Ukraine.
The "Danish" Leopards 1A5 were the very last model of it's kind, upgraded with a stronger armor and used with great success by Denmark during the war in the Balkans in 1994 and still upgraded up until 2005 before being sold in 2010. The German company said that they will be able to deliver 20 of the 99 Danish Leopards, upgraded and ready in perfect condition for battle within the next few month + 20 more within a further 3 month, with Denmark donating the Leopards while asking Germany and the Netherlands to pay for their battle ready maintenance-upgrade.
Besides the Danish Leopard's, Germany have also approved German arms-maker Rheinmetall’s plans to sell 88 of their older Leopards 1A5, so that they can be donated to Ukraine.
How many more Leopards that will be delivered by Poland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Canada, Spain and so forth, is yet to be disclosed.
@Ionor Rea
u wont use them like leopard 2A6 which are def. t-72 hunters lol. but still the most modern version the leo1 a5 from the 80s i think has some advantages compared to the russian tanks. for example thermal vision, reverse speed and a better fire control system i guarantee...
This is great news! The Leopard 1 is still a good tank, and better than many of the old Russian-made tanks that Ukraine has today (but has still done quite well with, nonetheless).
People might think that these are old ass tanks but remember that most of what Russia has as MBT are T72, T64 and T80s (and very few T90s) . Both the T64 and T72 started their production in the 60s and the leopard 1 also began its production in 1965 so their not older than most of Russia's tanks. And all of these tanks (T72, T64, T80 and Leopard 1) are still being used today so they have modern equipment for at least some of them. So while old their quality and age isn't that much different then what both Ukraine and Russia are using now in the war.
It's pretty clear that Leopard tanks are much better than what russians have, especially when we're talking about the night vision and other technologies that russians just don't have in the required amount. In any case, providing military support for Ukraine drastically improves the chances of ending this war without having a WW3 in Europe.
@Jerald Kozey Well not the Leopard 1 tanks but they will not get used against other tanks but infantry. Leopard 2A6 will be on top of the food chain
Not to sound like a vatnik but I'm pretty sure even DM43 APFSDS would struggle against T80 and T72 frontally, but would be enough for T64
@Filthy Weeb thats why DM43 is not in service.
Poland and a few others still use DM33 but everybody else uses DM53/63, wich would do the job quite fine.
@Zhufor TheImpaler is that what's being sent? Can I have link for info?
Well done Germany, Netherlands and Denmark! Helping Ukraine fighting the war against Russian aggression on our behalf. Slava 🇺🇦!
Good evening We are from Ukraine 🇺🇦
We should not stop supporting Ukraine until their victory over putin's army. A lot of countries are going to provide tanks now, long-range missiles are coming from US too. So with increasing and continuous support like that Ukraine has everything it needs to successfully defend their people and territories. Aviation might be a good idea too, hopefully Zelenskyy's visit to UK will help with that.
I also hope that Ukraine will have the air force necessary to liberate the occupied territories
Among the Leopards lots of austrian Kürassier were shown(same 105mm gun like the french AMX10).
Canada may not many to spare but delivered them by air. Training should be taking place for Leo'2 A4 and A6's. Now new training can soon start for Leo1's too. As for Challanger2's training is likely happening for first company of them. American traning for Abrims is ongoing and will take awhile to use the first 31. By July I hope we see all in the war. It will take a year to build the MBT Battalions up to full force.
The Canadian tanks will break down in the first week. They can be used for parts though, like all Canadian military hardware all it's good for is...parts.
Here's the new math: Germany gives Ukraine a few tanks. + Putin objects and threatens Germany. = Germany gives Ukraine TEN TIMES MORE TANKS!
good mathematics )))
How exciting..........war
The timeframe for ending the war is dictated by the speed of supplying what Ukraine needs. If the West is serious about wanting it to end this year it should be supplying what Ukraine needs now, not promising deliveries as late as next year. What a great opportunity the war provides to test the very latest generations of tanks and other weaponry on the battlefield instead of the drawing board.
Arms sales in 2021 reached $592 billion and was up 1.9% which was higher than the previous period but still below the average for the four years leading up to the COVID-19 pandemic.
As a retired US Army Officer I will state Ukrainian commanders and their staffs must have lots of brainpower because Ukraine is experiencing a conglomeration of various weapons, weapons systems, vehicles, and the many types of ammunition. Don’t forget about training. I have a feeling the US has a hand in coordinating to assist Ukraine.
Thanks for Tanks!
Thank you Germany!
Ukraine will take any Western armor they can get their hands on, though I agree the Leopard 2's in numbers, should be sent. Ukraine seems to have good tactics and done pretty well with their older Soviet tanks, with some having homegrown upgrades. I read somewhere that Ukraine was the heartland of the SU's military engineering and production of arms. Is France kicking in tanks?
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Wrong video?
If Ukraine survives it should be a given they get a seat in NATO. And by the way, they will have been trained on and operated some NATO weaponry. And have more actual battle experience than maybe all ex-US NATO countries. (Edit: Ukraine may ask us to fill out their application form :)
If you want to help Ukraine, there are some good things you can do. Let's all contact our government representatives to help Ukraine drive out the invaders. Ask them to send F16 aircraft and longer-range precision fires (like ATACMS). Send them an email, text, or old-fashioned letter (best option), call them on the phone, post on social media, etc. Let's do our part to maintain and strengthen the national consensus in our own countries to give more support for Ukraine.
Excellent news!
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Good evening We are from Ukraine 🇺🇦
This is huge, there are massive stockpiles of the leopard 1 across Europe, tapping in to that will give the Ukrainians a comparable threat to most Russian tanks
Very good to do that. However do it much sooner, Rutte!! And also talk about giving the F-16s!!
Yeah it's obvious that Ukraine should've had all this help months ago. It would've saved a lot of lives and towns/villages. But it's better than nothing I guess, right now it's very important to keep this military aid coming.
Even obsolete tanks are good for Ukraine. despite the fact that the Russians generally began to bring their T-55s to the front
Tanks are not obsolete.
Supply Ukraine now with everything it needs to win back at least the borders as they were after 2014, and the war can be shortened. And send a clear message to China of the risks of it attacking Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, and its other neighbours.
30 min sarmat to gayrope & their owners 🇺🇸
eh?
No all of Ukraine to 1991 borders. Crimea is Ukrainian.
Nethersland and Denmark have Leopard 2 tanks, which are German btw.
The war is now not only for Ukraine but for the entire civilized world and freedom! We must all unite and help Ukraine win.
Our help is important for Ukraine not only to win the war, but also to save the lives of its people. Therefore, we must help in any way we can
Na our country wants no part of this. We are sitting out as of now.
'Civilized free world' = 1 bln people
'Jungle world' (by Borrell's definition) = 7 bln people
In a short while we will learn if the relative quiet has been caused / helped by a shortage of targets with suitable value.
Personally, I think that giving Ukraine Leopard 1s is giving them more of what they have. But some tanks are better than no tanks.
Those leopard 🐆 tanks from German military are the bomb 💣 very good 👍 for the Ukrainian soldiers to receive these gifts. Glory to Ukraine.
Hopefully Ukraine will be in Crimea this summer ,if that happens it’s the downhill all the way for Putin ,Crimea is the priority for Ukraine.Long range weapons and jets please for Ukraine let them fight with both hands!!
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U working for arms industry or something?
Crimea historically Russian 🇷🇺 forget it
@Enlighted Spirit So what it belongs to Ukraine ,the USSR is no more it’s gone finished ,history ,the sooner Russia accepts that fact the better. Russia is seen as North Korea now by most of the world ,and little dictators cannot push the world around. Remember Hitler in WW2 ?
Send them quickly without much delay and Without words of arguments
oh yeah, finally we see some movement and picking up the pace of providing assistance.
Prayers for all the victims of Putin's gamble gone wrong. All the best to the people of Ukraine and foreign volunteers helping there.
2 more weeks till the 1 YEAR of Putin's "3 DAYS to Kiev"
Emphasis on 1 YEAR and 3 DAYS
But u never prayed 🙏 about Donbas shelled by Himars 9 years...
@Soarin-Wolf who said that ?
Your clowns 🤡 who read meain kampf?
lol 😆
@Sansara HIMARs (yes its an acronym) only arrived in Ukraine last year. Good try though
@Brad Sharkey OK, 1 year by Himars, 8 years another NATIOweapons .
Are u proud if that?
Stay strong, Ukraine!!! 💙 💛
Good evening We are from Ukraine 🇺🇦
01:04 those are not leo 1 tanks those are french AMX autoloaders
the flag looks Austrian. maybe that Kürassier model? last i heard Austria still doesn't grant re-export licenses
Save Ukraine, Save innocent.
Love from Bangladesh
Good evening We are from Ukraine 🇺🇦
@Ukraine today Good evening. It's 03:30 am. Good night ❤️🌼😍
Brilliant news.
Imagine how terrifying this must be for Russian troops watching this.
terrifying how western tanks from the 80 s you should get real
@Frank Renda They will still kick the behinds of 60's tanks used by ruzzskies.
they are not watching anything, the only thing they are watching are the gun barrels of UA soldiers while they rush into the bullets like zombies
Huitler turned over in hisGrave
That's a funny 😄
It's just like when you help your friend in World of Tanks except it could start a real WW3.
Canada has its C1 Leopards they have about 50, not sure were they are, they all had thermal imaging and laser range finding. with a L7 105 mm gun. They were trying to sell them.
A more appropriate title will be Denmark,Netherlands depleting their armory to support Ukraine temporarily
At first a few Leopard 2 tanks this year and then 180 Leopard 1 A5 over the next 18 months? Then Ukraine may be ready for a counter offensive in the summer of 2024!!
This is really good news. We are waiting for these tanks to appear on the battlefield and make the occupiers run away
Well done Germany 🇩🇪 supplying
Ukraine 🇺🇦 with Leopard Tanks.
Supplies of heavy weapons to Ukraine must increase and contain everything for Ukraine to reach its 1991 borders.
Should have prepared these months ago.
Nope.. dripping more aid into ukraine over time is more safe than being all in from the beginning.. it keeps the escalation risk low..
er okay
The bad news Pistorius is that Ukraine needs these tanks NOW, not the summer or later this year. With the West it's always a case of too little, too late and too slow. Why are we always limiting what we send Ukraine and expecting them to fight ruZZia with one hand tied behind their back?
Giving Ukraine our old inventories is a very cheap way to deplete the only land threat we have, and what our conventional forces are built to defend us against.
Germany supplies tanks, and the imposters take to the streets.
Can we now talk about it after Germany was hit, that more and more countries will not send tanks and Germany is almost alone with the decision to send tanks?
Didn’t go well last time Germany sent tanks east.
Stay strong Ukraine!
Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava!
I really don't understand what the problem is...
if Ukraine needs tanks to win, let's give them as many tanks as possible!!!
Our officials have clouded eyes.
Those who have already visited Ukraine begin to see clearly and immediately begin to actively help
problem is, that there are not really any stockpiles and every leopard 2 given to ukraine is taken out of active army service and wont be replaced for a few years.
@Zhufor TheImpaler Is this your personal opinion?
@Milo Bradtke no that is sadly a fact.
due to CFE Treaty, european nations could not store equipment in large quantities. (CFE required a mandatory reduction in army size and stockpiles by about 60% to pre 1991 levels)
Due to this, almost no european nation as stored Leopard 2´s and almost all are in active service units.
exceptions are spain with about 100 Leopard 2A4 in storage, wich are in scrap metal condition( missing turrets, rusted, unusable without major rebuilds), and finnland with about 84 usable Leopard 2A4 in semi storage, as they are part of the army reserve equipment stockpile, meaning that they are basicly in active use every few weeks during reservist training.
And Switzerland with 385 stored/used ones, but switzerland is doing switzerland things.
@Zhufor TheImpaler Switzerland has already shown that it is ready to help Ukraine.
The freeze of 19 billion francs of russian banks speaks of this
More important is that Ukraine needs a massive amount of ammunition for the guns and artillery guns they already have. They keep pounding the snot out of the Russians but they just keep coming in wave after wave!
Does this mean it's expected the war will go on for another 2 years?
It means they will get the tanks even if the war has already ended. They'll need to westernize their military after this anyway, no matter what. Most of their soviet stuff will be destroyed and there's no decent way to get spare parts and ammunition anyway. So this program makes sense in any case.
I read somewhere that the Abraham tanks will be ready in a year minimum, who would set that up if the war ends in, lets say half a year? I have a feeling that 2+ years is not a crazy bet.
Leopard 1's, while old, can still destroy targets while on the move and stationary. They are not as protected as Leopard 2's though. Excellent tank none the less. Far better than russias garbage t-72.
I'll take a leo 1 any day !
Relying on the average duration of a world war this one should last about 5 to 7 years. One year has passed now. It should last about 4 to 6 years more.
30 min sarmat to gayrope & their owners 🇺🇸
@Sansara 4 to 6 years more, provided no atomic weapons will be used
... maybe, if this had been a world war, which it isn't.
This is the Russo-Ukrainian war, and it has been fought since February 2014.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
@Sansara and then we will make Russia and all its allies ash... Great idea, Ivan.
Good news Ukraine needs our support to fight off Putin's illegal invasion Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
The “dilly dallying” decision has caused delays effective counter offensive .
Netherlands and Denmark have withdrawn and have recalled the pledge as they all pointed at Germany and blasphemed and themselves many pull the tail in so much to unity
So Greece has 500 perfectly operational Leopard tanks now...which Germany can replace next year....instead Ukraine has to wait until next year to receive them...wonderful. Obviously, the name of the game is to make it look like we are trying to save Ukraine, while not pissing off Russia too much, let them have another crack at this offensive.
Let's hope the delivery goes unnoticed, just like that attack on that bridge last year.
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“Ukraine is receiving 100s of tanks…”
Me: yay
“Of the Leo-1 variety”
Me: wtf. The one with 105mm cannon while everyone else has 120mm?
It is on top of the Leo2, Challengers and Abrams. And since Ruzzia is fielding T64's and a few T72's. I think they will manage.
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Great cooperation between Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands. Send a lot of material now because Putin knows he is running against time. Putin loses 250 million dollars in earnings per day, due to price caps and less demand for oil and gas.🇩🇪🇩🇰🇱🇺👏
The more we help Ukraine, the closer the day of victory in the war
1:08 That's no Leopard 1 though but a French AMX...
Leopard 1? Well, better that than nothing at all. Is it?
It has stabilizers (so that it can fire on the move), and IR-thermals. It's better than the t-62s that the Russians have been seen fielding lately, about the same as some older versions of t-72, and worse than some of the top-tier t-70s (but Russias has lost so many of these in the war that they are getting rarer).
Shhh... Looks like "Slava Ukrainers" are not yet aware that these Leopard 1's can't defend against a can opener! Please don't be cruel and spoil their joy. Thank you. 🤫
@anders björkman do you mean T-80, rather than "T-70"?
Clearly these are going to be used in conjunction with the more modern tanks. They have specific uses for these that they will excel in.
The Leopard 1 is still a vary capable tank and the Russians use older models in large numbers as well. Let's not forget that tanks rarely engage other tanks. 80-90% of the time they shoot at infantry, bunkers, trunks and maybe the occasional IFV. The leopard is more than capable of that and is incredibly mobile and fast. It is also a much lighter tank and can be deployed in areas that don't have the infrastructure to support the weight of any of the more modern western tanks, which are all a lot heavier than the soviet tanks the Ukrainians have been using until now, so their infrastructure is not built around supporting such heavy stuff.
On top of that they said the Leopard 1 will be modernized. There is the possibility of upgrading its gun to the 120 the Leopard 2 is using. There is an upgrade program for that. not sure if they'll do that, but even if not, that tank is superior to several of the older models the Russians are fielding. it was designed to kill those after all. Not everything they're getting needs to be able to take out a T90 in a duel. If anything the higher mobility, speed and lower profile will probably make it harder to be killed by the threats that kill way more tanks in Ukraine than tanks do: Drones and artillery. The Leopard 1 is incredibly fast and mobile and much harder to hit.
Glory to Ukraine from Ireland 🇮🇪🤝🏻🇺🇦
Glory toNAZZI?
Bravo gayrope 🤡☝
@Sansara lol 😆
Ireland 🇮🇪
Small island
Lol
@Sansara What does the ADL say about your claim? You are a liar.
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Worse, the upward slope only gets steeper as we move into 2022 and the Omicron period (Figure 5).
Great News !!! Thank you Germany ... Saving Ukrainian Lives
showing support to Ukraine sends a message to all dictators, the free world will not stand by while they bring death and destruction
you want to see who the dicator is heres some names , colonel douglas macgregor , colonel richard black senator , scott ritter , john mark dougan , eva bartlett , the new atlas , graham phillips , richard medhurst , jeffrey sachs , gonzalo lira , the duran , the jimmy dore show .
IF POLLAN CAN DO WHAT THEY CAN
WITH TANKS SUPPLY TO UKRAINE 🇺🇦
RIGHT NOW WOULD BE , FANTASTIC !!!
BLESSED ARE THE MURSIFUL . AMEN !
GOD IS LOVE ❤️
FROM AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺
Good evening We are from Ukraine 🇺🇦
It might not be to late,Russia is adapting.
That Germany Defense minister looks cool on the Tank.
Well done 1945/2023 👏✔ with SARMAT
What i hate about this is that they could've saved more Ukrainian lives if they had sent them last year. I guess it's better late than later.
As the Russians double down in Ukraine, the West powers Ukraine forward with powerful modern tanks and armoured vehicles to take the fight to the Russians and send them fleeing back to Russia. SLAVA UKRAINI...HEROYAM SLAVA !!!!
@Andre Kiri no Putin's Russia is the fascist regime today. Wake up and stop sleeping. Zelensky is the Churchill of our time, valiantly hold the ground against Ruskie nazi oppression, fighting and winning the battle to the accolades of the world. SLAVA UKRAINI...HEROYAM SLAVA !!!!
Now they need those MIG jets in Poland to defend them.
Leopard 1 tanks? That's a bit like us pulling Chieftains out of museums and giving them those!
Could be worse, they could have sent Shermans.
Gayrope is funny 😄 yeah
This is better than no support at all
Leo 1 is better than nothing
Not realy as they are still in service with other nations to this day . last ones retired where 2005 . plust masive upgrade kists have been produced and shown 7 months ago , having medium tanks protecting less vulnerable regions , and suport infantry as mobile fire suport . even protecting the engineers building bridges , crossing rivers artilery . . freeing up other tanks . those modernisation kits ar already in production takes 24 hrs to instal . lift out turret install the new turret and plug in the cables .
Discover Leopard 1 tank modernization fitted with Belgian John Cockerill 3105 105mm weapon station
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A combined armed force of Heavy medium and IFV with troops makes a hell of a difference . the germans in ww2 used the heavy tanks as battering ram and the medium tanks in the suport and clean up roles behind the lines . .
Tactics strategy and using them proparly when and where needed is key .
from minute 01:03 to 01:10 is a Austrian made Kürassier and not a Leopard 1
Good News 👍
It's about damn time
Leopard 1 tanks cannot take direct shots from T72 tanks. These were decommissioned for a good reason. Why do we send the old, outdated equipment? I also don't appreciate the commentator saying these are world class tanks. Maybe we should send Shermans. they would distract the T72 s. We could use them to use up the Russan amo. Real problem you are condemning the crews.
They need them NOW not in a yr
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Well, something is better than nothing, although they seemed to have promised Leo 2
Thank God, there isn't a war on or anything that would mean expedient delivery.
Those tanks have been sitting in storage for 20 years. They need to be refurbished.
Thank God SARMAT will get the NAZZISUPPORTERS
Today is the 7th of the 2nd. Don't forget that by the 24th of February, it's the 365th/ first year of Russian Invasion. An invasion many thought would only take weeks. But guess what
Any tank will become scrap iron in front of invisible trenches and individual anti-tank weapons
How long do they think this war is going to last?
Send all weapons Ukraine can use
Longer distance missiles
Sarmat
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 🙏
Ukraine is Strategic Land of Great Warriors and Freedom Fighters successfully fighting against the Evils, Aggressors, Fascists, Terrorists, Global enemies. Very Cost-effective strategy to protect Europe, Civilised World and the whole Humankind is continued supply of smart, power weapons to Ukraine; Land of Great Warriors 😅.
I assure you that none of us wished war on Ukraine.. Except Russia.
Well done 1945
Well done 2023 👏✔gayrope with SARMAT
@Sansara gayrope need to refresh their memory 🤣
Didn’t go well last time Germany sent tanks to the east, did it, I understand Russia has 20,000 battle tanks.