2-Strokes are better than 4-Strokes Top Ten Reasons why

You forgot the biggest reason I love 2t over 4t. You can lug a 2t WAY lower than a 4t. I'm a single track trail rider and I can lug my bike below idle and it'll just keep chugging along. Get even close to idle with a 4t and it dies.

The worst thing about 2smokes is how inflated prices have gotten because not many new ones are available. My next bike will be a new yz250 if I cat find a decent used bike for a decent price. My last bike was a yz250f and yes I liked it.

First time I rode a "big" 4Stroke was a Suzuki GS500, nice and fast but... The power delivery was so smooth that I immediately thought a 2Stroke was more fun.

I remember when Honda released their first CRF250 and 450 4 strokes.
Good friend of mine, since retired, was a Honda and KTM dealer.
I went down to his shop one day and observed several blown motors sitting on the work table. And these bikes had only been.out for a couple months..!!
When I saw that the pistons looked like a hocky puck and those motors had to Rev like hell to make power then I knew those bikes were not ever going to be on my list to own one. And I also thought the engineers that designed those short stroke extremely high RPM joke stroke screamers need their heads examined.
I will stick with my carbed 300 2 stroke. Just keeps going.

Thanks for sharing this vid with us buddy :) your advice is spot on :D 4 strokes take your energy off you allot quicker than 2 strokes , especially if you have to kick them over !!! Learned allot then , thanks 🙏

I’ve had 6 4strokes in my life. I’m trading in my 2020 KX 450 for a 23 husky TC 250 this coming weekend. I love both honestly but 450s are just to much for my 44 year old butt. I can’t wait to rip a modern 2 stroke

I giggled when he said a 2018 as an older bike 😂 I’ve never owned anything that wasn’t 10+ years old

I like 4 strokes cuz you can always count on them pushing rods through cases so there cheap & great for 2T swaps

Two strokes are cool af so are 4 strokes , most people like both, they both have pros and cons it depends on the situation to most it usually depends on price but what matters most is people are riding and getting into the sport

Jay, you should try a head from Kelsey at RK TEK, the increase in low end is amazing and makes the bike easier to ride especially on trails, it allows you to ride everything a gear higher, lower rpm means better traction, more control, if you need more power just roll on the gas, best 2 stroke engine mod you can do for the money, most head mods for trail riding don't do much if anything but this one you can actually feel the improvement.

Well older models are accessible to most without the counter. Which older two strokes with the vibration and inconsistent power curve they are physically demanding but makes great bike skill.
I’ll be wanting to get the Husqvarna TX300 2023.

Thing is if you bored out a 2 stoke to get closer to the CC's of a four stroke 450 then you cannot compare the two. I'm a two stroke guy, just a little more fun with how the powe band kicks harder, etc.

I still have a 2 stroke street bike. I bought new in 1985. It's almost mint. It's a Yamaha RZ500.

Thanks again Jay great video and 💯 True I'm 61 picked up a yz125x 2020 before that I had a 2019 TX 300 great bike as well I gave up on 4 strokes because of all the stuff that you talked about 👍

Good review. I don’t know why, but in my search for my first bike, I was leaning towards an 350 xcf…. Had ridden a lot of track with street bikes, but this will be my first dirtbike. No plans to motocross or any racing. I’d like to go on long rides through the desert or woods and explore. I’m starting to lean now towards the 23 300xc, Or xc-w. Your thoughts on a 23 KTM as a first bike to build skills on.
I’m 41 and 6’2 210.
Fun is ideal, but smooth power, and good suspension, I think riding a crazy bronco would be fun for 10 minutes, but I wouldn’t seek it out daily.

Yes catastrophic things do happen lol my buddy’s yz250 shattered its piston today and just munched the whole motor it’s not looking like he’ll be able to salvage much of it but at least the parts aren’t too expensive and he can rebuild it himself

Love the content just contacted dirt n iron love that guy aswell man wish I could meet you guys grew up watching you guys since I was little little now I’m 22 learned so much through all you guys went ahead and build my garage like dirt n iron love you guys keep up the great content !!!!

I buy clapped out 2 strokes just to bring life back to them. It's a hobby over the winter months. Been around 2 strokes since 1978.
Best addiction there is.

I'm %100 a two stroke guy but there's no argument that four strokes put down faster and more consistent lap times on a track. As an amateur just riding in the woods for fun two stroke is the way to go because of ease of maintenance and lower cost of maintenance. I currently own a 23 Husky TE300 TPI (favorite bike i've ever owned) and yes the initial purchase price was expensive but the bike has been just as easy and cheap to maintain as a carb bike (except for the added cost of oil pump and potential sensors). Plus I think riding two strokes is just more fun!

you had me at the sound in the intro.. 2 stroke will always be the best and will always win in my eyes. 2 strokes to me are the true riders bike. you can build them yourself at home with ease, tune them for cheaper and customise them so much better!
and there is no better sound and experience then a 2 stroke on full throttle round a track.

Great video. Everyone knows 2-strokes reign supreme but I love both and would probably ride 4-strokes most days.

That can also have a ridiculous power to weight ratio especially when fueled by nitromethane, I have a Traxxas Revo with a 2.5 cc nitromethane engine that produces 2 hp that’s like a Honda Civic producing the same amount of power as a Bugatti Chiron.

Like your videos I'm a old guy and love my old 200 the ultimate woods bike would like to do some upgrades some day 2 strokes for life 💪

Klotz has that sweet smell. I remember lining up for practice the morning of a race and being right in the middle of the pack waiting for the flager to lift the rope up and let us out for practice. I was basically inhaling 85cc two stroke exhaust fumes for several minutes lol guess that explains how I ended up the way I am 😂😂😂

As somebody at 27 just now starting to ride 2 strokes are way easier to dip into .

I absolutely love a 4 stroke in terms of dual sport and commuting while being slow to go off road. But only when talking about a WR250R. My valve check is at 27,000 miles. My bike is a 2008 and they still don’t need to be checked.
A 4 stroke dirt bike is stupid expensive to maintain. A 2 stroke is super simple and relatively cheap to maintain without many special tools or need for a shop.

its funny that 2 strokes are easier to work on, tune them etc.
until you get into extreme limits, i think a 2 stroke is way more difficult to squeeze every drop of power out of it.

Reason #11
Your sons face the first time he hits the power band on his 15 year old KX 65.
Priceless!!!!

You had me at the smell of 2-stroke exhaust…🥰

I personally think they should get rid of the 450 class so hard to use all that power have a 350 class that 250 2strokes can compete in seams fair to me

Can we just all agree the cr 500 ping king is the best bike of all time

Great vid Jay. I'm thinking of switching from my 250f to a 250 2T. 38yr old vet rider strictly ride motocross tracks for fun never race. I'm between a yz 250 or a new 2023 husky tc 250. Love to hear ur thoughts on which would be better?

Horses for courses.. grew up on a 2stk and just got sick of the ring ding.. now i rocket a 510 husky at 65kg and some skill its lethal..

Jay is a rockstar!

Love the two strokes ... Hate the price

Good video that makes a lot of good points. What I take away is that 2 strokes are for lesser men.

2-Strokes by birth...2-Strokes by death! Sworn for fun... Loyal to none✊😎👍

I wouldn't consider a 2018 an older bike on borrowed time... I have a 06 rmz450 that I would consider is old and on borrowed time. However i have a 98 xr400 that is an absolute beast and a 89 xr250r and both of them will outlast the oil on this planet. 2 stroke that!

"That sound. Who doesn't love that sound?"
My neighbors 😢

that bike looks amazing maybe someday I'll spruce mine up, maybe when I'm out of college

10 reasons 4strokes are objectively better than 2 stroke
1) maintenance costs is much higher on 2stroke than 4stroke, pistons are much easier to get blows same for the cylinder,
2) the fuel consumption is outrageous on the 2stroke,
3) you need to put good oil that is pricy and mix oil that is outrageously expensive...
4) you need to change often your sparkplug vs 4stroke,
5) and much more often the piston rings vs 4stroke.
6) At the end of the day, compared 200 hours on a 4s versus 2 stroke you spends 2 to 3k more on the 2stroke due to fuel and mixoil.
7) A modern 4stroke never fails, much more fuel efficient, there is no valve issues or clearance on modern 4stroke.
8) Btw 4stroke KTM are lighter than the 2stroke, so nope...again a win for the 4stroke
9) anybody with connected brain can repair a 4stroke, ain't harder than a 2stroke, also false
10) a 4stroke is much easier to handle in muddy terrain that 2stroke, 250 2troke or 4stroke are rev bikes, can't be compared with 300 2stroke, a 300 4stroke is already something very similar, the argument that 300 2stroke is faster than a 300 4stroke is a no go. Both are fast, only low skill riders would say such no go argument...
2stroke are good, but it is just a hype because KTM wants to push them, since the japs do not have serious competition, but that argument 2s vs 4stroke is a no go. If people like them it is fine. But 2strokes are now as expensive as 4 stroke...
cheers

2 strokes rule! Now if someone would make a new model 500cc with a counter-balancer!

When you hit the powerband on a 2-stroke you know why.

2 stroke on 2 wheels 4 stroke on 4 wheels. I only trail ride and I still own and ride a 1997 KDX 220R and a 2010 Honda 450R quad. The KDX is old but it still loves trails.

It’s all preference and some luck getting the right dirtbike for yourself. I have a 2018 ktm 300xc that I don’t care for bought it for the trails but the suspension sucks and the stock carburetor was a pain. I have a 2015 yz450f that i love to ride in the desert and in the hills and a 2021.5 Husqvarna fc450 that i love to ride at the track after i put a kyb spring conversion kit in.

Thats a nice looking bike, I like it!

It's fun to ❤and enjoy both ✌

the sound and power are 2 of the main reasons I choose a 4-stroke.

I'm old, lazy and hurting these days. I love sticking my 450 in 3rd gear and leaving it there the entire moto and cruise around the track and have fun. My 250 two stroke I have to work more to accomplish the same thing. I'm easily faster on my 450.

2 stroke = Eddie Van Halen. 4 stroke = Stevie Ray Vaughn. Both are amazing, but I wanna ROCK!

2 stroke is best. Look at sleds. 850 2 stroke w a turbo. Making 195 HP. Try building a 4 stroke sled w that power and still light and still flickable.

The used market for 2t are the same if not more than 4t

2-strokes make 40% or more torque than does 4-strokes of similar displacement. Especially more low end torque and power!

Just rode a 450 yesterday after only riding a 250 4 stroke once and only owning 2 strokes since I started riding, wasn't very impressed lol.

2 stroke for life. 4 strokes are always breaking or need further tweaking/wrenching. My 2 stroke needs just a little top end work every 100 hours, big deal.

I also sell and repair mx-bikes , to all my costumers I say , if it is for your hobby buy a 2 stoke . If a 4 stroke blows up your hobby is becoming no more hobby ..

With the fuel prices I'll stick with my 4

Wont be any sound soon!
With zero noise I guess they can race in the middle of town😀

Lol. I am literally fixing up a 2004 crf450r. And I love that bike. Starts on first kick everytime. I can also ride slow around my property with my son.

2 stroke seems to do the opposite to me, 2 stroke wears me out faster. Could be the suspension, not sure.

Your exactly right! I've always thought that!

Let's have an additional Supercross class. 2-Stroke!

Love my 23 Beta 200 rr race edition

Lighter faster easier to maintain less parts faster revving ,and does not sound like shrek farting

Used 2 strokes are actually more than 4 strokes here in New Zealand, and I definitely don’t agree with you on saying you’re on borrowed time with a used 4 stroke, my first bike was a 2014 CRF250R and the thing had 248 hours when I sold it, motor had never been opened as far as I know at all, still ran fine I just got a bigger bike
Now looking at a 2 stroke now as my 450 got stolen

AWESOME, love mine.....cheers V!

I prefer the 4 stroke the simply last longer

Flat out superior bike for hard enduro. Dem is facts.

Too bad Kawasaki doesn’t make a newer KX 250 2stroke 😢 ! My dinosaur is a 98 KX 250

You sit on the throne of LIES! ;-) I love both really, but last two bikes have been 2 strokes and I'm not sad about it.

Four strokes have ruined racing. They maybe easier to ride and have better traction but that is it. They are more expensive. In the pro ranks easier to ride is worse for the spectators. There are less mistakes which makes for boring races. Also faster means more injuries for the riders. The AMA made the biggest mistake ever when they let 450cc four strokes race against 250cc two strokes. It should be stroke for stroke, but if they did that four strokes would not have taken off.

💯 agree!!

The only reason 4-Stroke dirt bikes exist is the EPA trying to phase out 2-Strokes due primarily to exhaust emissions and noise. Once you understand that the whole thing makes a lot more sense. CC vs CC the 2-Stroke bikes will always be faster and have a lot more power. On the dirt off road you want a engine that revs out quickly and rips out of the hole with violent acceleration capabilities. You aren't using that 60+ MPH "top speed" or upper end on the dirt. That is reserved for street bikes and cruising long distances.

I don’t know if you guys answer questions in comments. I have a 2019 tx300…for the second time this season I’ve run out of fuel during harescramble events. We adjusted the float height before the last race, course was 14 miles. put in an estimated between 1/2-1gal after first lap and still ran out at mile 13 on lap 3. Have a Kihein carb with jd jet kit. Rekluse radius cx, full fmf gnarly and 2.1 silencer. 108hrs currently on bike. none of my more mechanically inclined friends can figure out why I’m going through fuel the way I am. The course was fairly open and fast. I have since put on an ims oversized tank and a quick fill can. Plan to do a top end around 120-125hrs as we will have down time in races around that many hrs(maybe less) any thoughts? Or just keep it twisted and pray hard?

You forgot something. If kick starting a bike a 2 stroke is easier to kick over

Missing my 2 strokes effffff the 4's definitely not the same at all

Thanks Jay🤙

I've got 2018 te300. Wish I had different carburetor than stock

Also that they’re just wicked to ride in a way four strokes will never be… two stankin for life! FTW!😝😝😆

yeah, the best is the 2t smell...addictive.

I ve had two suzuki gt 750, s in the past, what a lovely bike. The, ve gone though the roof. I, de have one in a flash if I could afford it. Riding a triumph adventurer 900 at the moment I can only dream of times gone bye

Depends on what you are doing. A 2 stroke would not lug me around trails that i ride my 4 stroke. And a 4 stroke will never beat a 2 strokes hole shot. Just no way possible with a 2 stroke power band. But i couldn't lug a 2 stroke around like i do with my xt225. New 4 strokes are for vagunas. Because they dont last like they used to.

Some very good points

I really like those neon green plastics!

… except for the fuel mileage 😢

2 strokes for life....

In competitive racing yes..

The last reason, is the main reason !! Never buy a second hand 4T if you have dont know the owner !!

Two strokes are faster, lighter, and just all around better. Also they attract chicks so if you want to attract dudes ride a four stroke.

2 SMOKE all the way bro BRAPP BRAPP !!

I love 2strokes

Yes 2stroke are better but what you have to say about the petrol???You need 2 petrol tanks with 2stroke than 1 tank for 4stroke.

.......Yea....no im sticking to BRAP!!!!🤷🏽‍♂️ #4stroke ftw!

I never find the pros and cons for either to be that compelling. The only con I have with 4t is the sound. I find them obnoxiously loud.

I love kicking my crf450r over ....I hate kicking my cr500 over

Man wish you were in my town I’d have you do me a bike build.

Especially now they are fuel injected🎉🎉

4:45 How in the hell did you get that plated?!?!

I enjoy riding my 4t from LA to northern Cali. 2 smoke.....not today or tomorrow. Go big or STAY home.