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2-Strokes are better than 4-Strokes Top Ten Reasons why

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  • Patrick Wheeler
    Patrick Wheeler 7 months ago +17

    You forgot the biggest reason I love 2t over 4t. You can lug a 2t WAY lower than a 4t. I'm a single track trail rider and I can lug my bike below idle and it'll just keep chugging along. Get even close to idle with a 4t and it dies.

  • Grigori Rasputin
    Grigori Rasputin 9 months ago +19

    The worst thing about 2smokes is how inflated prices have gotten because not many new ones are available. My next bike will be a new yz250 if I cat find a decent used bike for a decent price. My last bike was a yz250f and yes I liked it.

  • Cristian R
    Cristian R 9 months ago +7

    First time I rode a "big" 4Stroke was a Suzuki GS500, nice and fast but... The power delivery was so smooth that I immediately thought a 2Stroke was more fun.

  • carl atamanczyk
    carl atamanczyk 9 months ago +10

    I remember when Honda released their first CRF250 and 450 4 strokes.
    Good friend of mine, since retired, was a Honda and KTM dealer.
    I went down to his shop one day and observed several blown motors sitting on the work table. And these bikes had only been.out for a couple months..!!
    When I saw that the pistons looked like a hocky puck and those motors had to Rev like hell to make power then I knew those bikes were not ever going to be on my list to own one. And I also thought the engineers that designed those short stroke extremely high RPM joke stroke screamers need their heads examined.
    I will stick with my carbed 300 2 stroke. Just keeps going.

    BLANDOS 9 months ago +4

    Thanks for sharing this vid with us buddy :) your advice is spot on :D 4 strokes take your energy off you allot quicker than 2 strokes , especially if you have to kick them over !!! Learned allot then , thanks 🙏

    • tyler jones
      tyler jones 9 months ago

      If you know how to kick a bike then you can kick any bike in one kick. All it’s about is piston positioning.

  • Todd Alan
    Todd Alan 8 months ago +4

    I’ve had 6 4strokes in my life. I’m trading in my 2020 KX 450 for a 23 husky TC 250 this coming weekend. I love both honestly but 450s are just to much for my 44 year old butt. I can’t wait to rip a modern 2 stroke

  • Tony Allison
    Tony Allison 7 months ago +13

    I giggled when he said a 2018 as an older bike 😂 I’ve never owned anything that wasn’t 10+ years old

    • Dante George
      Dante George 22 days ago

      Same 😂. I'm changing that this Christmas though.

  • walterdemo
    walterdemo 9 months ago +37

    I like 4 strokes cuz you can always count on them pushing rods through cases so there cheap & great for 2T swaps

    • Astrogamezz
      Astrogamezz 4 months ago

      Dude you realise 2 strokes are way cheaper than 4 strokes and have less moving parts which means they are easier to maintain and cheaper to repair.

    • walterdemo
      walterdemo 4 months ago +2

      @Astrogamezz Dude....Learn how to read & comprehend before you reply

  • Michael
    Michael 9 months ago +13

    Two strokes are cool af so are 4 strokes , most people like both, they both have pros and cons it depends on the situation to most it usually depends on price but what matters most is people are riding and getting into the sport

  • Rob H
    Rob H 9 months ago +7

    Jay, you should try a head from Kelsey at RK TEK, the increase in low end is amazing and makes the bike easier to ride especially on trails, it allows you to ride everything a gear higher, lower rpm means better traction, more control, if you need more power just roll on the gas, best 2 stroke engine mod you can do for the money, most head mods for trail riding don't do much if anything but this one you can actually feel the improvement.

    • Corby K.
      Corby K. 4 months ago

      My buddy threw one on his gasgas and oh boy he don't even use back brake going down steep stuff anymore. That engine brake is godly

  • eric6rock
    eric6rock 9 months ago +2

    Well older models are accessible to most without the counter. Which older two strokes with the vibration and inconsistent power curve they are physically demanding but makes great bike skill.
    I’ll be wanting to get the Husqvarna TX300 2023.

  • Brent Hurley
    Brent Hurley 5 months ago +1

    Thing is if you bored out a 2 stoke to get closer to the CC's of a four stroke 450 then you cannot compare the two. I'm a two stroke guy, just a little more fun with how the powe band kicks harder, etc.

  • Rotten Animal
    Rotten Animal 5 months ago +3

    I still have a 2 stroke street bike. I bought new in 1985. It's almost mint. It's a Yamaha RZ500.

  • Rob W
    Rob W 9 months ago +7

    Thanks again Jay great video and 💯 True I'm 61 picked up a yz125x 2020 before that I had a 2019 TX 300 great bike as well I gave up on 4 strokes because of all the stuff that you talked about 👍

    • Bunny Man
      Bunny Man 9 months ago +1

      Glad you came to your senses

  • R.C
    R.C 8 months ago +2

    Good review. I don’t know why, but in my search for my first bike, I was leaning towards an 350 xcf…. Had ridden a lot of track with street bikes, but this will be my first dirtbike. No plans to motocross or any racing. I’d like to go on long rides through the desert or woods and explore. I’m starting to lean now towards the 23 300xc, Or xc-w. Your thoughts on a 23 KTM as a first bike to build skills on.
    I’m 41 and 6’2 210.
    Fun is ideal, but smooth power, and good suspension, I think riding a crazy bronco would be fun for 10 minutes, but I wouldn’t seek it out daily.

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      Dirt Bike TV  8 months ago

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  • Jamesy YzTwoStrokeMx
    Jamesy YzTwoStrokeMx 9 months ago +6

    Yes catastrophic things do happen lol my buddy’s yz250 shattered its piston today and just munched the whole motor it’s not looking like he’ll be able to salvage much of it but at least the parts aren’t too expensive and he can rebuild it himself

    • darryl marbut
      darryl marbut 5 months ago

      Yep it happens if the stock cast pistons are left in too long,you cannot break a good wiseco forged Piston with a hammer!

  • Dorian Rodriguez
    Dorian Rodriguez 9 months ago +5

    Love the content just contacted dirt n iron love that guy aswell man wish I could meet you guys grew up watching you guys since I was little little now I’m 22 learned so much through all you guys went ahead and build my garage like dirt n iron love you guys keep up the great content !!!!

  • Eric .25-06
    Eric .25-06 5 months ago +2

    I buy clapped out 2 strokes just to bring life back to them. It's a hobby over the winter months. Been around 2 strokes since 1978.
    Best addiction there is.

  • S Race
    S Race 9 months ago +10

    I'm %100 a two stroke guy but there's no argument that four strokes put down faster and more consistent lap times on a track. As an amateur just riding in the woods for fun two stroke is the way to go because of ease of maintenance and lower cost of maintenance. I currently own a 23 Husky TE300 TPI (favorite bike i've ever owned) and yes the initial purchase price was expensive but the bike has been just as easy and cheap to maintain as a carb bike (except for the added cost of oil pump and potential sensors). Plus I think riding two strokes is just more fun!

    • ed dalton
      ed dalton 9 months ago +1

      i agree but i think if 2 strokes had all the research and development the 4 strokes have gotten in the last 25 years and slightly closer in cc.. the smoker would reign supreme.. just my opinion though

    • S Race
      S Race 9 months ago

      @ed dalton Outside of motorcycles engine manufacturers have developed DFI and EFI 2 strokes for decades in aviation and marine propulsion. Ultimately ending with similar results of losing to more efficient 4 strokes. Despite these DFI 2 strokes having a weight advantage, less moving parts, and matching 4 strokes in emissions output. They couldn’t come close to the fuel efficiency of equally powered 4 strokes and that outweighed the other benefits. Thankfully KTM keeps developing 2 strokes and these new EFI bikes are the best 2 stroke bikes to date. But until the AMA increases the engine size allowed for 2 strokes there will always be a gap.

    • ed dalton
      ed dalton 9 months ago +1

      @S Race you can't compare apples to oranges really.... had the top manufacturers continued development of 2 strokes alongside the 4 strokes with equal or close to equal engine cc and chassis development.. there is no doubt the smoker would have the advantage. i do agree with you on the ama ruling for sure

    • S Race
      S Race 9 months ago +2

      @ed dalton There’s no denying that a 400+cc EFI smoker would destroy the 4 strokes. Unfortunately 20 years ago the ama determined 4 strokes require double the engine size to compete. Which might have been somewhat accurate back then but not even close now. They need to get an independent agency to figure out what size 2 stroke would be fair competition and change the rules.

    • ed dalton
      ed dalton 9 months ago +1

      @S Race agreed

  • Smidge
    Smidge 9 months ago +7

    you had me at the sound in the intro.. 2 stroke will always be the best and will always win in my eyes. 2 strokes to me are the true riders bike. you can build them yourself at home with ease, tune them for cheaper and customise them so much better!
    and there is no better sound and experience then a 2 stroke on full throttle round a track.

    • Boss4048
      Boss4048 7 months ago

      if your a person that goes on rideouts.

  • Spencer Clark
    Spencer Clark 9 months ago +2

    Great video. Everyone knows 2-strokes reign supreme but I love both and would probably ride 4-strokes most days.

  • Trainlover
    Trainlover 5 months ago

    That can also have a ridiculous power to weight ratio especially when fueled by nitromethane, I have a Traxxas Revo with a 2.5 cc nitromethane engine that produces 2 hp that’s like a Honda Civic producing the same amount of power as a Bugatti Chiron.

  • Nate Parks
    Nate Parks 9 months ago +4

    Like your videos I'm a old guy and love my old 200 the ultimate woods bike would like to do some upgrades some day 2 strokes for life 💪

  • Woodrow Runyon
    Woodrow Runyon 9 months ago +2

    Klotz has that sweet smell. I remember lining up for practice the morning of a race and being right in the middle of the pack waiting for the flager to lift the rope up and let us out for practice. I was basically inhaling 85cc two stroke exhaust fumes for several minutes lol guess that explains how I ended up the way I am 😂😂😂

  • FadedBlack
    FadedBlack 9 months ago +2

    As somebody at 27 just now starting to ride 2 strokes are way easier to dip into .

  • Chrispewkreme
    Chrispewkreme 5 months ago +4

    I absolutely love a 4 stroke in terms of dual sport and commuting while being slow to go off road. But only when talking about a WR250R. My valve check is at 27,000 miles. My bike is a 2008 and they still don’t need to be checked.
    A 4 stroke dirt bike is stupid expensive to maintain. A 2 stroke is super simple and relatively cheap to maintain without many special tools or need for a shop.

    • Colton Owens
      Colton Owens 4 months ago

      I'm a two stroke guy through and through, but 4t's are just objectively better as duel sports. My YZ125 feels like ass on pavement, but my old KLX 300 was a way smooth ride on pavement. Two's are strictly off road machines.

  • Kasper-jw
    Kasper-jw 28 days ago

    its funny that 2 strokes are easier to work on, tune them etc.
    until you get into extreme limits, i think a 2 stroke is way more difficult to squeeze every drop of power out of it.

  • 3 Brothers Extreme
    3 Brothers Extreme 9 months ago +14

    Reason #11
    Your sons face the first time he hits the power band on his 15 year old KX 65.

  • Collin Smith
    Collin Smith 9 months ago +18

    You had me at the smell of 2-stroke exhaust…🥰

  • colton lowery
    colton lowery 9 months ago +5

    I personally think they should get rid of the 450 class so hard to use all that power have a 350 class that 250 2strokes can compete in seams fair to me

  • Devinthedude gringo
    Devinthedude gringo 7 months ago +2

    Can we just all agree the cr 500 ping king is the best bike of all time

  • J-sammy S
    J-sammy S 9 months ago +3

    Great vid Jay. I'm thinking of switching from my 250f to a 250 2T. 38yr old vet rider strictly ride motocross tracks for fun never race. I'm between a yz 250 or a new 2023 husky tc 250. Love to hear ur thoughts on which would be better?

    • Keith Peterson
      Keith Peterson 9 months ago +3

      @martin barr's CRF450
      Obviously, you don't ride.

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      Dirt Bike TV  9 months ago

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    • Mixalis
      Mixalis 9 months ago

      @Keith Peterson Obviously he does, and has a clue !! doubt you do !

    • Mixalis
      Mixalis 9 months ago

      @Dirt Bike TV Whats in your opinion you fave to ride, 2T or 4T ?

    • straighttimestirrups
      straighttimestirrups 9 months ago +2

      I’d buy a 23 YZ250 Smoker!

  • Rebekah French
    Rebekah French 9 months ago +3

    Horses for courses.. grew up on a 2stk and just got sick of the ring ding.. now i rocket a 510 husky at 65kg and some skill its lethal..

  • Lawrence Fleck
    Lawrence Fleck 9 months ago +1

    Jay is a rockstar!

  • Raek
    Raek 6 months ago +1

    Love the two strokes ... Hate the price

  • Utah SingleTrack
    Utah SingleTrack 5 months ago +2

    Good video that makes a lot of good points. What I take away is that 2 strokes are for lesser men.

  • Tony Switzer
    Tony Switzer 9 months ago +3

    2-Strokes by birth...2-Strokes by death! Sworn for fun... Loyal to none✊😎👍

  • ʇʇǝuuǝq-sıɹʞ
    ʇʇǝuuǝq-sıɹʞ 9 months ago +3

    I wouldn't consider a 2018 an older bike on borrowed time... I have a 06 rmz450 that I would consider is old and on borrowed time. However i have a 98 xr400 that is an absolute beast and a 89 xr250r and both of them will outlast the oil on this planet. 2 stroke that!

    • Foster Schutt
      Foster Schutt 9 months ago +1

      XR is a different animal. A 2018 being beat on is asking a-lot for a pure race bike. A 450xcf that probably didn't see the rev limiter however, 100 hours is nothing.

  • Brian W.
    Brian W. 4 months ago +1

    "That sound. Who doesn't love that sound?"
    My neighbors 😢

  • Colby Barton
    Colby Barton 9 months ago +1

    that bike looks amazing maybe someday I'll spruce mine up, maybe when I'm out of college

    ARNAUD DECHAMPS 5 months ago +2

    10 reasons 4strokes are objectively better than 2 stroke
    1) maintenance costs is much higher on 2stroke than 4stroke, pistons are much easier to get blows same for the cylinder,
    2) the fuel consumption is outrageous on the 2stroke,
    3) you need to put good oil that is pricy and mix oil that is outrageously expensive...
    4) you need to change often your sparkplug vs 4stroke,
    5) and much more often the piston rings vs 4stroke.
    6) At the end of the day, compared 200 hours on a 4s versus 2 stroke you spends 2 to 3k more on the 2stroke due to fuel and mixoil.
    7) A modern 4stroke never fails, much more fuel efficient, there is no valve issues or clearance on modern 4stroke.
    8) Btw 4stroke KTM are lighter than the 2stroke, so nope...again a win for the 4stroke
    9) anybody with connected brain can repair a 4stroke, ain't harder than a 2stroke, also false
    10) a 4stroke is much easier to handle in muddy terrain that 2stroke, 250 2troke or 4stroke are rev bikes, can't be compared with 300 2stroke, a 300 4stroke is already something very similar, the argument that 300 2stroke is faster than a 300 4stroke is a no go. Both are fast, only low skill riders would say such no go argument...
    2stroke are good, but it is just a hype because KTM wants to push them, since the japs do not have serious competition, but that argument 2s vs 4stroke is a no go. If people like them it is fine. But 2strokes are now as expensive as 4 stroke...

  • Rusty
    Rusty 9 months ago +6

    2 strokes rule! Now if someone would make a new model 500cc with a counter-balancer!

    • jonnoMoto
      jonnoMoto 9 months ago +1

      BRC make a counterbalanced 500

    • Rusty
      Rusty 9 months ago +1

      @jonnoMoto True they make an engine I've seen "999lazer" build one. Now if someone can mass produce a complete bike at competitive price.

  • Kent Bergström
    Kent Bergström 2 months ago +1

    When you hit the powerband on a 2-stroke you know why.

  • Kevchard
    Kevchard 5 months ago

    2 stroke on 2 wheels 4 stroke on 4 wheels. I only trail ride and I still own and ride a 1997 KDX 220R and a 2010 Honda 450R quad. The KDX is old but it still loves trails.

  • Ron E Lube
    Ron E Lube 9 months ago +2

    It’s all preference and some luck getting the right dirtbike for yourself. I have a 2018 ktm 300xc that I don’t care for bought it for the trails but the suspension sucks and the stock carburetor was a pain. I have a 2015 yz450f that i love to ride in the desert and in the hills and a 2021.5 Husqvarna fc450 that i love to ride at the track after i put a kyb spring conversion kit in.

  • Mark Alan
    Mark Alan 2 months ago

    Thats a nice looking bike, I like it!

  • Corteum9000
    Corteum9000 Month ago

    It's fun to ❤and enjoy both ✌

  • Sissypool
    Sissypool Month ago

    the sound and power are 2 of the main reasons I choose a 4-stroke.

  • Daryl Smioth
    Daryl Smioth 9 months ago +4

    I'm old, lazy and hurting these days. I love sticking my 450 in 3rd gear and leaving it there the entire moto and cruise around the track and have fun. My 250 two stroke I have to work more to accomplish the same thing. I'm easily faster on my 450.

    • Steve Smith
      Steve Smith 9 months ago +1

      Had a YZ250 for 10 years. Went to a modern 450. Just stick it in 3rd gear and let it eat. Way easier to ride and def faster in Moto. The torque out of the corners to clear jumps is AWSOME. Never going back to 2 strokes for this Vet

    • Ron E
      Ron E 8 months ago

      My thoughts also. I'm 56, and just sold my kx 2 stroke for a 2023 kx 250. Looking for something to run the track with my grandson, without always staying on the pipe. Put it in 3rd and just go.

  • 1176hambone
    1176hambone 9 months ago +3

    2 stroke = Eddie Van Halen. 4 stroke = Stevie Ray Vaughn. Both are amazing, but I wanna ROCK!

  • jmanab
    jmanab 9 months ago +2

    2 stroke is best. Look at sleds. 850 2 stroke w a turbo. Making 195 HP. Try building a 4 stroke sled w that power and still light and still flickable.

  • Timmy
    Timmy 5 months ago +1

    The used market for 2t are the same if not more than 4t

  • SPCRacing1
    SPCRacing1 9 months ago +4

    2-strokes make 40% or more torque than does 4-strokes of similar displacement. Especially more low end torque and power!

  • 2smokejoke
    2smokejoke 9 months ago +4

    Just rode a 450 yesterday after only riding a 250 4 stroke once and only owning 2 strokes since I started riding, wasn't very impressed lol.

    • Bunny Man
      Bunny Man 9 months ago +1

      Same here

    • 2smokejoke
      2smokejoke 9 months ago +1

      @Bunny Man it was a newer bike to, the last gen YZ450f I think it was a 2014.

    • Bunny Man
      Bunny Man 9 months ago +2

      @2smokejoke 2 T for life

  • Natedoc808to805
    Natedoc808to805 9 months ago +1

    2 stroke for life. 4 strokes are always breaking or need further tweaking/wrenching. My 2 stroke needs just a little top end work every 100 hours, big deal.

  • Tom Van Heeswijk
    Tom Van Heeswijk 9 months ago +2

    I also sell and repair mx-bikes , to all my costumers I say , if it is for your hobby buy a 2 stoke . If a 4 stroke blows up your hobby is becoming no more hobby ..

  • Hope Less
    Hope Less 9 months ago +2

    With the fuel prices I'll stick with my 4

    • CRAQ Supplements
      CRAQ Supplements 9 months ago

      Hahahahha what does fuel price have to do with a dirt bike haha it’s all cheap regardless of what bike you have

  • Glade Goodrich
    Glade Goodrich 9 months ago +1

    Wont be any sound soon!
    With zero noise I guess they can race in the middle of town😀

    DIY JEFF 9 months ago +4

    Lol. I am literally fixing up a 2004 crf450r. And I love that bike. Starts on first kick everytime. I can also ride slow around my property with my son.

    • Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush
      Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush 9 months ago +5

      ​martin barr's CRF450 You need to learn how to jet. My YZ490 will run cleanly at 11rpm all day.

    • Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush
      Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush 9 months ago +4

      martin barr's CRF450 The point is that 2-stroke can do it all- lug down low with great grunt, or rev its guts out. It doesnt matter, the 2-stroke will handle it, and beg for more without complaint.

    • M F
      M F 9 months ago +3

      You must be talking about 2 strokes from 90s? Todays 2 strokes you can lug them down low and not stall.

    • Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush
      Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush 9 months ago +1

      martin barr's CRF450 My YZ490 would get smoked by KX500s and CR500s when it was new.
      But a 450 isn't touching either of those either.

    • KYSYouTube
      KYSYouTube 9 months ago

      @Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush I know nothing about your bike so I googled it. This is their selected answer lol.
      The Yamaha YZ490 was introduced in 1982 (following in the footsteps of the YZ465). Sadly, the 490 was heavier than the 465, nowhere near as reliable, difficult to start, had grim suspension, vibrated and was impossible to jet.

  • Mark McMahen
    Mark McMahen 9 months ago +3

    2 stroke seems to do the opposite to me, 2 stroke wears me out faster. Could be the suspension, not sure.

    • Mixalis
      Mixalis 9 months ago +2

      Much easier riding a 4T

    • jonnoMoto
      jonnoMoto 9 months ago

      I think he was really describing a 4t with a poor off-idle mapping. Some can be really lurchy off idle

    • RT22
      RT22 9 months ago

      It is the speed at which terrain is coming at you. 4 stroke heavier but smoother. 2 stroke racer never breaks sweat on 4 stroke cause it is not moving as fast or as ferociously. 4 stroke is cruiser

    • Lynch Creek Muzzy
      Lynch Creek Muzzy 7 months ago

      2T wears me out even when compared to a heavier 4T....ram's. 4T power on single track is what I like, but I do not like the stall factor on a 4T at low rpm's.

  • Steve Barr
    Steve Barr 9 months ago +1

    Your exactly right! I've always thought that!

  • Joe Carlino
    Joe Carlino 9 months ago +5

    Let's have an additional Supercross class. 2-Stroke!

    • Mr10usdad
      Mr10usdad 9 months ago +1

      They would not do that because it might be more popular!

    • Randy Cox
      Randy Cox 9 months ago +1

      First time ever racing would add a class to a series so slower bikes could ride..🤣🤣

  • Richard Orr
    Richard Orr Month ago

    Love my 23 Beta 200 rr race edition

  • RT22
    RT22 9 months ago +3

    Lighter faster easier to maintain less parts faster revving ,and does not sound like shrek farting

  • josh benton
    josh benton 6 months ago

    Used 2 strokes are actually more than 4 strokes here in New Zealand, and I definitely don’t agree with you on saying you’re on borrowed time with a used 4 stroke, my first bike was a 2014 CRF250R and the thing had 248 hours when I sold it, motor had never been opened as far as I know at all, still ran fine I just got a bigger bike
    Now looking at a 2 stroke now as my 450 got stolen

    • John Doe
      John Doe 6 months ago +1

      Once a 4-Stroke is worn out or broken badly it's pretty much junk and a parts bike. It's unnecessarily overly complicated and expensive to repair/rebuild and not worth your time, money or effort to do so. The 2-stroke is easy to fix and parts are reasonable to keep them going 20+ years even when they get old.

  • Verdon Rocks Photography
    Verdon Rocks Photography 9 months ago +1

    AWESOME, love mine.....cheers V!

  • flying debree
    flying debree 9 months ago +3

    I prefer the 4 stroke the simply last longer

    • Ninja_Wolf
      Ninja_Wolf 26 days ago

      Ive seen older two strokes still alive tho more often than old 4's

    • Ninja_Wolf
      Ninja_Wolf 26 days ago

      I love both im actually having such a hard time choosing for a new bike

  • MidgetMoney
    MidgetMoney 9 months ago +1

    Flat out superior bike for hard enduro. Dem is facts.

  • Rickjames_i_am
    Rickjames_i_am 9 months ago +3

    Too bad Kawasaki doesn’t make a newer KX 250 2stroke 😢 ! My dinosaur is a 98 KX 250

    • chris
      chris 9 months ago +1

      I got a 92 kx250 💀

    • J Myers
      J Myers 5 months ago +1

      Agree and KX 500.

  • Danny Compton
    Danny Compton 4 months ago +1

    You sit on the throne of LIES! ;-) I love both really, but last two bikes have been 2 strokes and I'm not sad about it.

  • Mr10usdad
    Mr10usdad 9 months ago +53

    Four strokes have ruined racing. They maybe easier to ride and have better traction but that is it. They are more expensive. In the pro ranks easier to ride is worse for the spectators. There are less mistakes which makes for boring races. Also faster means more injuries for the riders. The AMA made the biggest mistake ever when they let 450cc four strokes race against 250cc two strokes. It should be stroke for stroke, but if they did that four strokes would not have taken off.

    • Mr10usdad
      Mr10usdad 9 months ago

      martin barr's CRF450 So how have 4 strokes made racing better for spectators?

    • JAKEDOWN999
      JAKEDOWN999 9 months ago +4

      Bro said they are easier to ride and get better traction..that sounds objectively better. I have a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke it was just funny to read that honestly didn't read anything after cuz I started laughing.

    • Sparky Kendall
      Sparky Kendall 9 months ago +3

      You have a point and I like 2 strokes but 4 strokes are still fun to ride

    • Ekon Rekon
      Ekon Rekon 9 months ago +3

      martin barr's CRF450 let's just cut to the chase.. 4 strokes are boring!!!! Boring to ride and boring to watch

    • Mr10usdad
      Mr10usdad 9 months ago

      @Sparky Kendall They are fun to ride. I do not mean to hate on four strokes as much as it seems. I have a 1970 CT70. It is a four stroke. I just do not think they have been good for motocross.

  • Lucas Cady
    Lucas Cady 9 months ago +1

    💯 agree!!

  • John Doe
    John Doe 6 months ago

    The only reason 4-Stroke dirt bikes exist is the EPA trying to phase out 2-Strokes due primarily to exhaust emissions and noise. Once you understand that the whole thing makes a lot more sense. CC vs CC the 2-Stroke bikes will always be faster and have a lot more power. On the dirt off road you want a engine that revs out quickly and rips out of the hole with violent acceleration capabilities. You aren't using that 60+ MPH "top speed" or upper end on the dirt. That is reserved for street bikes and cruising long distances.

  • TonofFun
    TonofFun 9 months ago +1

    I don’t know if you guys answer questions in comments. I have a 2019 tx300…for the second time this season I’ve run out of fuel during harescramble events. We adjusted the float height before the last race, course was 14 miles. put in an estimated between 1/2-1gal after first lap and still ran out at mile 13 on lap 3. Have a Kihein carb with jd jet kit. Rekluse radius cx, full fmf gnarly and 2.1 silencer. 108hrs currently on bike. none of my more mechanically inclined friends can figure out why I’m going through fuel the way I am. The course was fairly open and fast. I have since put on an ims oversized tank and a quick fill can. Plan to do a top end around 120-125hrs as we will have down time in races around that many hrs(maybe less) any thoughts? Or just keep it twisted and pray hard?

    • Dirt Bike TV
      Dirt Bike TV  9 months ago +1

      We’re happy to help. But email Jay directly. Contact info in About tab. Or link to email on Instagram @dirtbiketv1

  • Michael Dixon
    Michael Dixon 9 months ago +1

    You forgot something. If kick starting a bike a 2 stroke is easier to kick over

  • me
    me 5 months ago

    Missing my 2 strokes effffff the 4's definitely not the same at all

  • Christopher Smithsonian
    Christopher Smithsonian 9 months ago +1

    Thanks Jay🤙

  • Jarred Tremain
    Jarred Tremain 9 months ago +1

    I've got 2018 te300. Wish I had different carburetor than stock

  • Jamie Morris
    Jamie Morris 9 months ago +1

    Also that they’re just wicked to ride in a way four strokes will never be… two stankin for life! FTW!😝😝😆

  • Robson Enduro
    Robson Enduro 9 months ago +2

    yeah, the best is the 2t smell...addictive.

  • David Puckett
    David Puckett 21 day ago

    I ve had two suzuki gt 750, s in the past, what a lovely bike. The, ve gone though the roof. I, de have one in a flash if I could afford it. Riding a triumph adventurer 900 at the moment I can only dream of times gone bye

  • Mike Carr
    Mike Carr 3 months ago

    Depends on what you are doing. A 2 stroke would not lug me around trails that i ride my 4 stroke. And a 4 stroke will never beat a 2 strokes hole shot. Just no way possible with a 2 stroke power band. But i couldn't lug a 2 stroke around like i do with my xt225. New 4 strokes are for vagunas. Because they dont last like they used to.

  • Sara Clark
    Sara Clark 9 months ago +2

    Some very good points

  • Smokey 777
    Smokey 777 9 months ago +3

    I really like those neon green plastics!

  • Squid
    Squid 9 months ago +4

    … except for the fuel mileage 😢

    • Bunny Man
      Bunny Man 9 months ago

      Facts 😂😂
      I was on the mx track last week and ran out of gas going up the face of a jump on a 2t

  • Saw sapo
    Saw sapo 9 months ago +1

    2 strokes for life....

  • Kleid To Masse
    Kleid To Masse 9 months ago +1

    In competitive racing yes..

  • Mixalis
    Mixalis 9 months ago +1

    The last reason, is the main reason !! Never buy a second hand 4T if you have dont know the owner !!

  • Chet Manley
    Chet Manley 9 months ago +5

    Two strokes are faster, lighter, and just all around better. Also they attract chicks so if you want to attract dudes ride a four stroke.

  • Pete ScaleModeller
    Pete ScaleModeller 4 months ago +2

    2 SMOKE all the way bro BRAPP BRAPP !!

    SLATTJU 9 months ago

    I love 2strokes

  • exupakias
    exupakias 9 months ago +1

    Yes 2stroke are better but what you have to say about the petrol???You need 2 petrol tanks with 2stroke than 1 tank for 4stroke.

  • Bullets Are Flying
    Bullets Are Flying 9 months ago +1

    .......Yea....no im sticking to BRAP!!!!🤷🏽‍♂️ #4stroke ftw!

  • jonnoMoto
    jonnoMoto 9 months ago +1

    I never find the pros and cons for either to be that compelling. The only con I have with 4t is the sound. I find them obnoxiously loud.

    • Steve Smith
      Steve Smith 9 months ago

      We have many a 2 strokes at the track that are way loud and ratty. I keep my silence freshly pack. Hate loud crappy sounding exhausts

  • Tim Gannon
    Tim Gannon 9 months ago +1

    I love kicking my crf450r over ....I hate kicking my cr500 over

  • Quint Betts
    Quint Betts 9 months ago +1

    Man wish you were in my town I’d have you do me a bike build.

  • Luke Walker
    Luke Walker 21 day ago

    Especially now they are fuel injected🎉🎉

  • eric6rock
    eric6rock 9 months ago +1

    4:45 How in the hell did you get that plated?!?!

    • Cole Christensen
      Cole Christensen 9 months ago +1

      Most states it’s super easy to plate any bike. Just lights and horn. Maybe in comiefornia it’s hard.

  • mgtow life
    mgtow life 9 months ago +1

    I enjoy riding my 4t from LA to northern Cali. 2 smoke.....not today or tomorrow. Go big or STAY home.