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Headmaster Uses Avada Kedavra On Isidora Voldemort Fight Scene - Hogwarts Legacy (4K 60FPS) 2023
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- Published on Feb 8, 2023 veröffentlicht
- Hogwarts Legacy 3 teachers and headmaster Avada Kedavra used by Headmasters Percival Rackham and San Bakar and others on Isidora student after she turns evil (Voldemort) and they are unable to beat her
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The Ministry: Avada Kedavra is an Unforgivable Curse.
The player character: Ok, I will desintegrate people insted, cast lightning on them or turn them into a chicken. Irreversibly.
The Ministry: Ok, that's completely fine.
The Protaganist: Can I add in massive blunt force trauma when I repeatedly smash them as hard as possible on the floor?
The ministry: yes
@Philip Williams I forgot that one.
that was my case ALL the time people say it's forbidden but u can cast accio on a person and make the person fly against a walll crack their skull, spine and die withtin seconds totally fine but not instant death of avada kadrava.
@Dr Thuganomics I transformed a guy into a red barrel, but realized he was the last enemy. So I used Wingardium Leviosa and maneuvered him above a ledge and let go. The same second he transformed back....
See, this is why Avada Kadavra is useful. When dealing with an evil wizard who's too powerful to stop with other spells and you need to defend others from said evil wizard's power
Agreed, irl highschools used to have competition shooting and rifle ranges... No school shootings back then
@Romuluz Exactly!
No! Unforgivable.
look at lore members of other houses used the dark arts as well, just for defending against dark wizards. I feel like all magic is beneficial. It's only bad when it's used for bad.
I like how Percival looks at bakar with astonishment and awe, and quickly comes to the realization that the curse was necessary to save them. Bakar's proclaiming of avada kedavra was also very much violent. Good scene
It wasn't necessary and Bakar hides his game well, this guy is just as dangerous as Isidora
Quick, painless and completely clean killing spell: Unforgivable
Literally smiting someone with the wrath of Zeus and splattering them across the battlefield: Ancient Magic
Funnily enough the second can be reversed while Avada kedavra is a true death soul and all you will get no portrait and shall not become a spirit that’s why it’s considered unforgivable by the games time in history
@Kingsly not true. Avada simply cuts connection of body and soul, granting peaceful and instant death. The reason for it to be unforgivable is that you have to Mean it. To have full intent to Kill without remorse for doing so. And because it cannot be blocked by magical shield... Plus, probably because it mostly used by evil idiots murder... Ironically enough, avada could be used for good. For example, to kill someone who is beyond any help by endings their suffering and granting peace. After all, there is no pain as the death is instantaneous.
Or to instantly finish an enemy before it can hurt anymore any further. For example, this scene in video. Or, let's say someone threatened a group of innocent children... It would be a lesser evil to finish the b@stard before it can do any further harm, would it not?
@Bart I Wrong.
Voldemort in the book described being hit by Avada Kedavra when his spell on Harry bounced back on him as 'pain beyond pain', when detailing how Lily Potter's protection charm on baby Harry worked. When it hit him, it ripped his soul from his body, completely disintegrating his physical form - which is where he describes the pain on his soul from being hit by Avada Kedavra as being so great, that it was 'beyond pain'.
Aka, if hurts your soul so much that it might as well have been eradicated.
The "no pain" is only physical, not spiritual. Voldemort himself confirmed it attacks the soul, and it hurts your soul so bad you'd wish for true death.
@Bart I Voldemort's first death was not caused by Avada Kedavra. Avada Kedavra results in a lifeless body on the ground. When Voldemort died the first time, his body disappeared/disintegrated. This is similar to the Ancient Magic attacks in Hogwarts Legacy.
@Kingsly Dumbledore is killed by Avada Kedavra, and he gets a portrait, and meets Harry in the afterlife. He doesn't seem like he's being tortured.
What happened to Voldemort was a unique case. He only felt pain beyond pain because nothing there worked properly.
His Killing Curse was reflected upon him, but it couldn't sever the multiple connections his soul had to his Horcruxes.
A normal Killing Curse is a quick severing of the soul, like an executioner's blade taking off your head. A moment of shock and it's over. Quick and pretty painless.
What happened to Voldemort was like someone trying to make that same cut with a blunt rusty hacksaw. It couldn't sever his soul's connection to his anchors, but it tried, hard.
Honestly out of all these deadly spells and curses, Avada Kedavra is a far more preferable way to die, its quick and painless as opposed to being incinerated or blown up
and voldemort and his death eaters were the most merciful people
but it's unfair since it's impossible to defend agains't it. (or you have for some reason something like a statue on your way because normally you wouln't have time to do anything at all)
@quan nguyen Unless your name is Snape. Then you get the Snake.
@B.A.R.F a duel isn't meant to be fair unless its a tournament sanctioned by the ministry, real duels are a fight for your life and playing fair is a very good way to get yourself killed unless your the protagonist
I like how he has a hard time trusting us in the game calling in question our purity but casting the killing curse is utterly fine and no one mentions it
It's situational. She was clearly evil/insane. They're not dumb enough to lock him away for executing justice.
Well you can’t just use a cutting curse to kill people, that’s far too messy.
Wasn't considered unforgivable at that time, plus how is it any different from killing someone with diffindo or bombarda
@4SidedStar I found it amusing that the killing curse is so bad but cutting someone’s head off is ok 😂
in that ephoc Neither of the 3 unforgivable curses were unforgivables so thats why it didnt have any repercusions
I was watching this for the first time with my friends, and when they were locked in a duel with OP Isidora, I said out loud "I would use avada kedavra." And in three seconds, the professor Gigachad Bakhar said "AVADA KEDAVRA!"
I lost it, that's how dark wizards are defeated!
🧢
@Xakune😂
She is not a dark wizard
This kind of opens the possibility to theorize about the creation of dementors. The canon says Ekrizdis possibly created dementors using very dark magic. He tortured soldiers for pleasure and this kind of depicts a horrible scenario. Let me explain. First, Isadora found out how to remove pain from people using ancient magic, and if pain can be manipulated why not happiness as well? Although Isadora's intentions were rooted in kindness, and the story in Hogwarts legacy does not dive into the consequences of depriving someone of pain in the long term, I imagine that a sadistic dark wizard like Ekrizdis in his pursuit of causing more pain would torture his victims so much so that when he deprived them of the little happiness they had left, the amount of pain left behind in the body could only end up in something like a dementor. A creature with so much horror and pain inside that he can only exist by sucking on others' happiness. Think of what it would be like to have one's capacity for happiness taken away. It must be horrible. But this scenario is even more horrifying because if what I theorize is true, Ekrizdis made sure that a lot of pain and trauma was created inside their victims before he took their happiness away. The mere idea is disgusting and fits perfectly with how dementors are described.
merlin's beard. you have a horrid imagination. i would love to read a book about this
🤓
Good theory!
Damn i love the magic combat in this game and how they did it. You can easily see just how powerful Isidora was with her ancient magic as only Percival was able to block her first spell while everyone else was blown away.
If you pay attention in the game you realize that “dark magic” was studied at hogwarts from the beginning. The notion of the “unforgivable curses” didn’t come until the mid-late 18th century in the HP world. For Medieval & 17th century wizards, these were powerful and dangerous spells but not unforgivable.
They needed to stay that way, It’s the same argument for the second amendment- criminals will use them illegally anyway. It’s only the innocent that will suffer the consequences.
@Dark Genie OK voldemoret. Aurors are allowed to use them under certain circumstances. But there is no reason to kill someone when a stunning spell works.
@Grigsy if there is no reason then it wouldn’t have been created or used in the first place, there’s obviously a reason regardless if we want to acknowledge it or not. One glaring example was with isidora herself. Good luck stunning her when it’s already way too late for any compromise.
@Grigsy Euthanasia. Also, AK can't be blocked, stunning can. If you're attacked by a dark wizard and you can't go through their defenses, you can resort to AK.
I really enjoyed this scene. I don't know if it's me ,but I can't shake the feeling the game had more of a story to tell then what we actually got.
Completely agree.
Go through the save file with a data base editor and you can see references for plenty of cut content, including what appears to be some sort of crime system, a dozen or so cut spells, and a companion system (they even have voiced lines for sidequests). I'm guessing WB wasn't confident about the profitability of the game and made them release it a year or two early, so Avalanche had hit the game with some big scissors.
@twerking bollocks plus this was like the first type of Harry Potter RPG game anyone had ever created. This game was a rousing success though so hopefully the sequel, if it happens, will be even better and have more content
@Christian AstorgaI think the ending was extremely disappointing. In the end your decision to use the power of the final repository (essentially the crux of the entire main story) has no bearing whatsoever on the events that proceed it. That was disappointing for me. Otherwise yes, phenomenal game.
@thesnackbandit Yeah ending could've been better but as I said, first Harry Potter RPG game like this ever created. Hopefully the mistakes were learned
It would've been a great plot twist if Isadora was still alive somehow and was influencing Ranrok behind the scenes, only for her to reveal herself to our character right after defeating Ranrok, and she would actually be the final boss. After defeating Isadora, the player would have the choice of making the Final repository their own power, or they could destroy it and rid it from the world.
That's literally what everyone was anticipating and her being the final boss would have been better anyway.
I really thought that would happen. Instead we fought a dragon, it was fun, but meh
@Ahsan K. Honestly how would’ve they gone about it though? Isidora existed during the Tudor Era. The player didn’t. How would they have made Isidora the final boss?
@Christian Astorga Sir, she exists in a world where it's possible to live perpetually. They have the philosopher's stone or the horcruxes in the universe, I'm sure her living in different era wouldn't have any issue.
It would have been a very bad idea and it would go against her personality.
I absolutely loved this scene. It's a very interesting character arc about isadora's fall from grace. It can be done right if you keep building up to that moment.
The VA for Professor Bakar did a great job with that "avada kedavra". It was emotional and CRISP.
One of them finally actually did something rather than just saying Isadoraaaa with a sad look
So this happened before 1717 where the Three Unforgivable Curses are still not illegal.
But hey, the way Professor Bakar said it is really unique.
@Maeror1022 hes talking about these characters specifically
Was really, really surprised the writers/devs went with it. The choice to have him use the killing curse was a big deal for the lore, and they really didnt make a big deal of it. Good writing
As soon as I saw her in her student outfit with a "Joker" esque smile on her face, I was like "YEP, she's turning evil!!"
Same, i felt it the moment she stepped in
I said “Ew why she look like that.”
This was such a good scene. Very unexpected
i laughed
For all those asking, AVADA KEDAVRA CANNOT BE BLOCKED BY ANY SHIELD SPELLS OR ANOTHER. Only physical options are DODGING, PUTING OBJECTS in front of it.
Only magical protection include HAVING TWIN WANDS (those who are made of the same core) which triggers PRIORI INCANTATEM, SACRIFICIAL PROTECTION (which is the only posible option by which you can shield the curse with your own body) as seen when the curse rebounded and "killed" voldemort instead. THE ELDER WAND cannot kill nor harm its true master as seen when voldemrot casted the killing curse on Harry in the forbidden forest or in the final duel. (In the books when harry is seemingly dead in the forest, Voldemort casted the cruciatus curse on what he believed to be harry's corpse but he felt no pain cause he was the true master of the elder wand that was being used by Voldemort).
HAVING HORROCRUXES spares you from death in a manner of speaking. The killing curse will physically kill the victim, but the soul will remain in the living world and of course with tHe right ritual can be brought back in a corporeal form.
PHOENIXES can be killed with it but will immeadiately be reborn from their ashes due to them being immortal.
That does open an interesting question. If terrain obstacles can block the spell, how much "obstacle" is needed to stop the effect? Can full plate armor negate the Death Curse? Could modern Kevlar body armor? Like logically there needs to be a point between "normal clothing" and "wearing a brick wall" where the armor is think enough to keep out magical effects.
@Maxi Reigl I believe it's objects that aren't attached to people. Like a stone statue or a large enough brick can block the spell from hitting it's mark.
WRONG
Not wrong. All this detailed info comes from the books. Read the books
@Rikudo Sennin you are indeed partially wrong.
Same core triggers Priori, that's fine.
The sacrifice is unrelated to the wands core (Harry's mother had a completely different core) it's simply a plot device to create a "ancient magic" shield around Harry.
Elder wand, you are also wrong, it can very well hurt it's Master (not that it mattered as technically the elder wand soul was in malfoy's wand) but Harry didn't die has he possessed all the death hallows, making him immortal for the time being.
I like how venemously he said it. Good scene
He *meant* it.
When you say the words you have to mean them.
MEAN IT
His model even smiled lmao
The fact he spoke that spell, even I was disturbed
I must say, it was pretty cool to see her take on two people at once
And they couldn't even hold her, by the look of it. If Bakar didn't cast the Killing Curse on her, they'd have died.
The Unforgivable curses were only recently banned by this time so I doubt the proper restrictions and safety measures were in place to allow the ministry of magic to detect when these spells were being fired off.
In fact, the “Trace” charm that allowed ministry people to detect underage magic was ineffective at pinpointing who the exact caster of the magic was. That’s why Harry got in trouble when other megical beings cast spells at the Dursely’s because he was the only wizard in the area for miles. The trace would have been wholly ineffective in a place that was entirely inhabited by an entire population of magical people.
During the time of Isadora the spellls were still legal in the 15th century and the statute of secrecy hasn’t even been enacted.
If it was pre 1717 then yes, if not then they were illegal
@Clarence838 The keepers were alive during the 15th century, so the curses were still legal and the statute of secrecy hasn’t been enacted yet. Pretty good job of the devs keeping with the timeline.
@Lethal_Giggles Oh cool, that's good to know, judging from the reactions they gave it makes sense. It's good to see someone who knows their stuff.
@Clarence838 I always thought that, besides the narrative of Harry Potter, the world building JK Rowling did was one of the best things she did in both the books and her website. It’s such a shame that the Fantastic Beasts series didn’t do a better job at building up the other Wizarding communities around the globe.
@Lethal_Giggles It’s sad but true, Fantastic Beasts didn’t provide much in building the world further. I recently found myself going back and researching the world of Harry Potter, and was amazed by how much I missed or forgot about.
People keep saying that Avada is better than other spells because it's painless and "less cruel," completly ignoring the fact that to perform it successfully you need to take pleasure in taking a life. In short, the more you use it, the more psychopatic you become.
Depends on the pleasure of the life you take . I mean a psycho killer , must be killed and you can't fell anything else but pleasure
No its not taking pleasure its that you have to mean it to use the spell to kill.
Like you could mean to kill someone to save your life but not taking pleasure in it
Good thing Sebastian didn't see that memory, or he'd definitely feel that his use of the unforgivable curses were justified.
I know he feels that Crucio and Imperio were justified already, but Avada Kedavra, not so much, unless you pushed him in that direction.
I like the way it sounds with his subtle accent ~Abada kidabřa 4:03
Also, i missed this scene because i just happened to get a phone call during it. PSA to devs, cutscenes need to pause when you pause them 😬
After having read a lot of comments on the killing curse, I have come to a logical conclusion as to why it is forbidden. To trace the users most likely to be dark wizards. They banned the three curses just to detect those dark wizards. Some smart person said that in another comment. I am spreading the word
U sure it isn't illegal cos murder is?
Glad to see more people going with Ravenclaw.
@ZanarAesthetics.. Package? What?
We have bathrooms here in Ravenclaw.
@Colemin ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
@The Sailing Of The Dawn Treader ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
I'm playing ravenclaw as well, love their common room
2:09 the way he shows the concern for his students ✨🤍
Im just going to point out that this took place in the 15th century (isodora and the keepers) avada kedavra wasnt made unforgivable until 1717 so, it was legal and free to use back then but was still heavily frowned upon. Just a little history lesson 😆
Correction it wasn't the headmaster that used the killing curse it was a professor cause if you remember the woman knocked out was the headmaster.
Headmistress *
@Wilfred17 In this era Headmaster can be used for both men and women.
I don't understand the argument of it being less morally questionable than it's depicted... Death is irreversible where as someone can be healed if they manage to live from most charms/spells, it also requires you to fully intend on killing that person, you have to want it badly and either hate that person or have some ulterior motive that they stand in the way of that you believe requires it's use, that takes a serious toll on people's minds and you'd have to have the strongest will ever to be able to do this often, which is why all the "non-evil" characters use it as a last resort, even though Sebastian didn't want to hurt you he could cast Crucio purely because he wanted to save Anne and his devotion to doing so allowed him to cast multiple unforgivable curses despite not wanting harm upon others and being relatively kind in nature albeit troubled, I think Avada Kedavra was the exception however because in the heat of the moment he was enraged and eventually comes to realise his mistake
Any answer as to why her father turned to a husk? I don’t see how taking away a specific pain would backfire into a lack of any emotion. Her love for him motivated her ambitions I don’t see any reasons why she’d leave him that way
I think the implication they make is that she lost her mind and went back to remove all his emotions after having removed pain.
The implication appears to be that in removing a pain she, whether intentionally or not, was removing part of the soul. A good comparison I saw someone make was that it is effectively what Dementors do in reverse. Isidora may have been taking something unpleasant, but she was still taking something that is key to a person. Moreover, what clearly started out with good intentions was eventually blinded by arrogance (there is also the potential implication that the magic itself may be so dangerous that it messed with her mind which...is kind of a thing with certain magics in Harry Potter; play around with the wrong magics too much and you can go off the deep end).
Pain provides context for other emotions. Without it, they stop being special and you have no frame of reference for the positive ones. Suffering is the constant companion of all life, and you cannot escape it. To attempt to do so is to deny part of what makes life worth living.
@NullPoEx spot on. That's what most magic users missed and overlooked the most important lesson and what should be taught: "The meaning and value of Life"
@NullPoEx Also, the basic truth is, Isidora did not have the emotional maturity to be an educator to children. She was traumatized by her father's depression and her brother's death, and instead of learning to acknowledge sadness, she just wanted it to go away.
The game's "bad ending" is if you take the Ancient Magic for yourself, but did you see this total girlboss?
We all saw the insane works of magic that Rackham and his friends were capable of, and Isadora was vastly more powerful than all of them. She was more powerful than at least 2 of them combined.
Yeah, I'm drinking the Kool Aid! Gimme that power!
Isidora was a fool. Taking away all emotions is basically killing someone.
Yes
She only took away the pain that ability is why she started experimenting with it
Unfortunately, Isidora was more traumatized by the loss of her brother and her father's depression then she ever let on. The truth is, she never learned how to deal with sadness and grief, and wanted to just make it go away. This woman had absolutely no emotional maturity.
Man i really wish there was like a npc react system to when ur like outside of the castle and you use any unforgiveables on enemies infront of those npcs that walk on the dirt roads. I wish it was like in rdr2 for example, where if they saw or heard you use any of the unforgiveables, they would say something about it and then start running away. That would be cool cus the game reminds me so much of red dead redemption 2 but with magic litterally. And maybe you could be able to KILL these npcs? And if another npc saw you do that, you would either have to kill them as well and run away or like capture them with some kind of spell or something. If an npc saw you kill a person and you dont do anything about it, the death screen thing could pop up except it would say that you got sent to azkaban or something
The enemies say stuff, when you fight them theyll occasionally say “oh you learned the dark arts huh” or when you cast the death curse they be like “WHERE DID YOU LEARN THAT?!?!”
No, not an instant defeat condition, I hate that.
Our Character is more than strong enough to beat whoever the Wizarding World throws at it.
I was kinda disappointed that the main character didn't ask the keepers why it seemed okay to use avada kadavra.
Because it's not but there was no other way to stop her.
Because I dont think it was illegal at this time
I agree I don’t think it was illegal during the flashback time sequence. Because none of the other professors looked at him like he did anything wrong. And to be blunt I always thought it was kind of dumb that it was illegal in the first place. Sure maybe for an average wizard. But not even being able to use it for self-defense against someone who’s gone completely psycho like Voldemort that always seems pretty stupid to me.
Same. There was a lot of focus on the use of the spell; you'd think they would discuss it in dialogue at least briefly.
While they are called the forbidden curses, they aren't entirely forbidden. If you used them to save a great number of people, the use of it would be forgiven. They taught the 3 curses within the Defense Against the Dark Arts class in the fourth year of the movies, in fact; because they had reason to believe the students may be attacked by Voldemort and his death eaters. So to protect them they also taught them the curses, incase push came to shove.
@ThatGothGamer Daven yeah it is like taking a squirt gun to a gun fight! The Keeper had to do what was necessary! Killing her was the only way to stop her at that point! Police in my area resort to talking down a situation before they have to draw their weapons similar in this case! They tried to talk her out of it first!
It’s like the Wizarding world doesn’t understand how mutilating people to the point of closed casket funeral is way worst than a painless killing curse
Didn't Voldemort say that the feeling of being hit by Avada Kedavra is pain beyond pain?
I think he was talking about being a fragmented soul without a body.
I honestly thought Sebastian sister Anne was a reincarnation of Isadora… since it’s the same voice I thought we were gonna be surprised by Isirdora awakening in Anne or something. I got so confused because the voices are the same I’m thinking oh shit it’s Isidora!
it could still happen, a sequel was confirmed and the Sebastian trying to cure Anne plot line has yet to be truly resolved, I think it would be a pretty cool reveal.
Ngl san bakar using AK caught me off guard, but it was such a badass moment
It's nice seeing someone smart for once, he can attack by behind, he fucking does it.
That's also why I decided to keep the thing under, because he deserved my respect.
San Bakar cemented himself as one of the most decisive and intelligent people in the entire franchise in this one moment.
@MasterEpsilon Absolute Sigma.
I somehow feel like the story is kinda rushed in the end. What about the connection between isidora and another female professor (I forget her name). It feels like such a big deal. I Thought the story would be more complicated and while the mission with Sebastian gave me the feeling that somehow the keeper are the bad guys beacuse her painting has been destroyed and someone wants to keep her quite? But it's just a very short and classic villain story. She wants to heal people but got corrupt and goes insane.😂 But it's still a good game though. Maybe I'm just overthinking. And also what about the promise with healing Sebastians sister with ancient magic? They just never be heard of anymore.
No, you're right. Her image has been destroyed, we only know the memories of Keepers. I was surprised at how short and quick the trial was from Professor Niamh Fitzgerald. Not to mention that the trial of San Bakar was only his memories.
I think, personally, that there are more interesting details here that, for some reason, all four have not said and are not saying. The destroyed image of Isidora, already proves something. Even our character says that "it's strange, but no one appears in the painting," which of course is drowned out by Sebastian's dialogue.
I think the creators left themselves an open field to possibly release DLC and add to the story, because I think Isidora herself would change a lot, especially the story told through her eyes.
And, as you mentioned yourself, Sebastian's promise and help to heal his sister. There are many threads that have seemingly come to an end, but the truth is that they are still open. And let's remember that we started in the 5th year at Hogwarts, and every student has 7 years of study there, so in theory we have 2 more years :P
@Heryosu Agreed. When I saw Isidora's pensieve i was expecting to get the whole picture but it was still just tiny snippets that didn't really explain a whole lot more than we already knew at that point (her meeting Bragbor and containing memories of pain). I hope Isidora actually shows up in the DLC
Honestly, I think it's a huge missed opportunity that they chose to focus more on the goblin rebellion rather than this keeper stuff. Isadora is a way more interesting villain than Ranrok is, because she's villainous out of a desire to be kind, whereas Ranrok is just your classic "I want power" badguy with no real connection to the main character.
What connection to another professor?
@Heryosu Honestly her Trial, while short, was the best one out of all the trials. Becoming the Master of Death while having the Deathly Hollows in your possession in a story of the 3 brothers was epic
I don’t get it they say avada kedavra is unforgivable but theres me over here using ancient magic to slam a goblin into the ground multiple times till they are dead.
Probably because the effect is instant and cannot be resisted. Like the moment someone said the phrase, it's guarantee someone hit by it will instantly die
Because it's a spell exclusively designed to kill. Ancient magic is just a type of magic, how it's used is up to the wielder's imagination. Like, it can be used to cure the land, but also to slam goblins
What is so hard to get ? It's a spell made to kill. The intent is to kill. You could slam the goblin 1 or 2 times until He's out cold but it's a game. It need to feel good to be fun to use.
Also, here’s me disintegrating a troll out of existence.
Ahh yes. The instant answer to Dragon Ball Z. Y'all saw how well that worked for Voldemort and Freeza, did you not?
I think isidora is the main character's ancestor due to their abilities being VERY similar
But she had no children 🤔 and her brother died.
@Moose perhaps her family extends beyond her current one
That would imply that professor Perceval Rackham was also part of her family, which is not true.
@MasterEpsilon perhaps her mother had other family members
not likely its a nice theory to think about though but no the keepers are not the only ones with ancient magic and it can't be taught but it can be honed and manipulated by a very rare few.
isadora was amongst the rare few who could see ancient magic which means she could potentially wield it which is what the keepers thought so they brought her into their fold to help her nurture the self same power they discovered in the hopes she would use it to help better wizardkind and the world of magic but when she abused it is when they decided to seal away the knowledge of it so a tragedy like the one isadora created wouldn't happen again.
“You Are under Arrest, Isidora”
“I AM the SENATE!”
“What?”
“Sorry, Force of Habit”
Yes...Same Thought
Why is everyone claiming its avada kedavra that isidora casts? It's a pink spell, not the green bolt of light with which avada kedavra is always represented.
Not Isidora
You didn’t watch the full clip lol. At the end when you(your character) are battling rock wood he casts it an you cast expelliarmus and wand struggle
@TB Ducky I've completed the game myself, you're using an ancient form of magic which is more powerful than the magic used by others, that's how its countered.
@Ross Patterson I’ve completed it also, an your comment has nothing to do with mine lol. You asked why everyone is asking why Isidora cast Avada kadavra but that’s not what anyone was asking, they are asking about the last minute of the clip with rockwood which you didn’t watch or existed out of the video before.
theres one big reason why the killing curse is unforgivable, you have to have intent to kill, basically you have to want to take a life and have no qualms in doing it
Damn, San Bakar is absolutely pissed. Probably because he's the only one knows what truly happened to Isidora's father.
That's why he DID really mean it when he casted Avada Kedavra on Isidora
@Shikuri Not to mention he was also the kindest and calmest of the four lorewise. Really shows how bad Isidora's actions were that san bakar was pushed that far to using AK willingly
@Tfox191 what really pushed him is the fact that she is willing to kill her own colleagues just for power, not to mention she used this magic on children.
Plus the fact that she has been warned several times and perhaps her arrogance is what also pissed him off
@PrimeCoconut I think the fact that she was doing this to children is absolutely what made San have no interest in conversation. At that point, she was beyond reasoning with, because they had been warning her for years about this. Professor Rackham warned her this could go sideways, and it did.
Basically if there's anything unsolvable when it comes to living things, just to avada kedavra to solve it. That's what I see on Hogwarts Legacy lmao!
Bakar is a freaking legend.
Yes
That's wierd the title says "Headmaster Uses Avada Kedavra On Isidora" But it's actually San Bakar, the Beast Class Teacher who uses it after the Headmistress was knocked unconscious.
You might want to update the title as San Bakar is not actually the headmaster but rather just a Hogwarts Professor. Niamh Fitzgerald was the Headmistress at the time and this is actually revealed in game.
Technically he's not a headmaster. But JESUS I don't know which is worse: what she did to her dad and students or the killing curse moment!
ending up as a husk is a worse fate than anything. What she did was basically slowly turning everyone into either living corpses or lesser version of dementors.
Using the Killing Curse bec there is no other option, she is already further down the dark path and has gone mad to the point, she is willing to kill her own colleagues and blinded by her own power
@PrimeCoconut True. But at least her victims still have their souls…but you’re right regardless
@PrimeCoconut The funny thing is, she basically sent her father back to where he was before she attempted to remove his pain. All he did was stay at home, not speak, and sit around like a zombie. With no emotion at all, positive or negative, Isidora unintentionally condemned him to the same fate.
I am kind of confused when they say its a curse no wizard/witch should use yet professors can use it to defend people for me its a good spell as long as the one who wields it is using it for good
You have to keep in mind that the books take place a couple centuries before this game does. What was once okay in the past is now considered to be very much frowned upon in the modern day.
dude I'm like a moth to a lamp if there's a Priori Incantatem scene, its just so eye catching it became legendary, to me at least
This scene is the reason why you shouldn't turn Sebastian in
Well, they forget that you really need to hate someone before the AK can be cast.
3:46 wait a minute. I thought that can only happen when two wands are made from the same core
The Harry Potter world abandoned that bit of lore years ago. Even in the movies they embellished priori incantatem in several instances. One of the most widely known was when dumbledore and Voldemort’s wands connected in the order of the phoenix. In canon yes, they have to be brother/sister wands but cinematically this has never been depicted accurately.
No mate you watch too much yt theory stuff that's all
@krab king read the books dudes it was stated that wands can only connect if they have the same core🤡😭🤦🏻♂️
Even in the movies(and I think book) harry used malfoys wand vs voldemorts elder wand
Pretty sure that guy wasn't headmaster in that time. The woman who did nothing and got her ass handed to her was the headmistress. The guy who killed Isidora was just a professor of some sort.
WTF, she's literally Voldemort 2.0. I mean, she's very powerful. 2 professors, one of them have the ability to use Ancient Magic and also her mentor, couldn't even hold her in a duel. If Bakar didn't cast the Killing Curse on her, they would've died.
Isidora lived way before Voldemort.
I wouldn't say Voldemort 2.0 she was likely far more powerful than Voldemort at this point. Unless he could have wielded magic of that scale. She was actually defeating two other ancient magic wielders in a 2 v 1 @.@ she WOULD have overpowered the other two instructors had the other not killed her.
@Asrei Murasame True, true. I said Voldemort 2.0 in a sense of her evil deeds.
There are definitely a few similarities between the two of them. Tom has a god complex, Isidora has a savior complex.
Mmmm I would say she's more of a Grindelwald 1.0 lol
bro straight up blasted that dude to oblivion in the end💀
4:01 to 4:13 the best part lol avada kedavra and then the look of bakar XD
Literally like 15 ways to kill a wizard/witch but the painless one is called Unforgivable??
Unforgivable because you have to mean them.
You have to want to take away their free will.
You have to want them to feel unimaginable pain.
You have to want them dead.
One of the reason why it is unforgivable, as per Hogwarts Legacy, it completely destroys the soul. Isidora's portrait is simply a blank compared to other keepers.
@Menrva magical portraits dont contain the soul or any real part of the depicted wizard/witch, otherwise dumbledore couldn‘t appear in his portrait
A tip of advice, if a death is instant and there are no signs of death, then it is affecting something you can't see. For the curse, it attacks the soul, ripping it out of the person's body, and according it's most popular caster, it is not painless to the soul.
Additionally, be honest, in what world would an instant death spell that relies on intent to kill not be made illegal or looked at badly? You are focusing on the pain factor vs what the spell can do and how it works. No one would know the full gravity of the curse unless if they survived to tell the tale.
Cruciatus Curse:
Affects: Body
Intent: Torture
Effect: immense pain and insanity after a whole
Use: Torture people.
Resistance: None, only avoidance.
Imperius Curse:
Affects: Mind
Intent: Dominate
Effect: Turns someone into a slave.
Use: Control people and
Resistance: Very few people can resist it.
Killing Curse:
Affects: Spirit
Intent: Kill
Effect: Instantly kills someone by ripping out their soul.
Use: Killing someone.
Resistance: None, only avoidance.
I don't get why people keep saying Isadora is Voldemort, the two are unrelated entirely.
So basically she goes Dragon Age and makes them Tranquill
This scene pretty much invalidate the Ministry’s narrative and most of Harry Potter fan belief that Avada Kedavra is a spell that is “inherently evil”.
Imo its a pragmatic spell. Harsh and grim but pragmatic nonetheless
Has she just been named Voldemort by the community or have I missed something🤔
Hogwarts is the safest place on earth, huh?
You’re saying that Slap people with magic, burn them, freeze them, crush them until death, is better than avada kedavra them?
So Isodora is literally Anakin Skywalker?
Personally I think they should've scrapped the whole goblin rebellion plot and focused on the keepers and Isadora instead. The goblin stuff feels so unconnected to the main character, not to mention Ranrok is just a very uninteresting villain, in my opinion.
🎉SON OF RODGER BADGERMAN🎉
why is it that Avada Kedavra is bad but blowing someone up is okay, again?... lol
The way the professors never helped Isidora get over her own pain was cowardly. Having Avada Kadavra her is bad but the Wizarding World's way of Incarceration is a fate far worse than death. An example would be how wizards were imprisoned in Saint Mungos Hospital and Azkaban for most of their lives. To be honest, Isidora was kind of spared from getting mentally worse if imprisoned in Azkaban.
The unforgivable curses are banned because their ONLY goal is to inflict pain, suffering and death. You could kill with a lot of other spells as well, but these spells can also do good.
It‘s the difference between shooting someone in the head with a gun, or trying to stop him with a club, thereby accidentally killing him.
@Yumarii because killing people in combat/self defense is not forbidden?
@Mister K OMG you donut
And no, you cannot kill ranrok with it just saying ;)
his pronounciation of avada kedavra is kinda sick
Others using avada kedavra: AZKABAN! DEATH!
Us using it: we don’t care :)
Bro did not have to use the killing curse on her. He could've used expelliarmus to disarm her while she was beam struggling with the other 2
Not unforgivable now. 😂
Avada Kevdavra can't be blocked unless the two wands are related, I see that lore is out the window.
Yeah, that's why she died. 4:04
? Who ever said that? Even in the movies, where Rowling helped a ton, they showed it being blocked by people.
Priori Incantatem is the only thing that happens when wands are related.
@AzureRoxe In the Goblet of Fire novel, it's mentioned that Avada Kevdavra can't be blocked.
@A Bohachuk Rookwood uses it at 6:30
@Gem Games The magic that the MC was using was not normal Magic against his Avada Kecdavra. It is Ancient Magic which is far more powerful than current known magic and unknown compared to Avada Kevdavra due to the secrets of Ancient Magic being lost to time. The Ancient Magic he uses to block Avada Kecdavra is one of the Ancient Magic that the MC can use on a enemy though this one is designed to literally disintegrate the person hit by it. I suspect this Ancient Magic is a form of Dark Magic, long forgotten of course, that is far more powerful than Avada Kecdavra considering it not only kills the person but literally disintegrates them so that nothing is left behind.
Limits of what Ancient Magic can do is unknown largely due to being forgotten but they are known to be extremely powerful and may even include forgotten spells more powerful and deadly than Avada Kecdavra that can even block it.
Anyone else Team Isidora? I kind of sided with her against the Keeper's. Why keep potentially life saving magic a secret to yourselves instead of learning more about it and finding ways to use it for good. Maybe if they worked with her on this magic it could have truly been used for good. And then to sneak her with AK after you engaged her first and then began to lose made me sick. Could have used other spells. It always just felt like the Keepers ego wouldn't allow another wizard to practice magic they didn't create or understand themselves.
Exactly why in the end I chose to continue her work
6:28 I thought avadakadavra was unblockable
what's the difference between killing someone with Avada Kedavra and cutting their head off with Diffindo? Or atomizing them with Reducto? what makes Avada Kedavra so unforgivable?
Diffindo is used to cut stuff and Avada Kedavra is used to kill stuff. Think about why guns are illegal in most countries, but knives aren't.
@Joakim Carlgren Diffindo is more akin to a sawblade launcher, not a standard ass knife, and When someone does kill with a knife, it's treated the same as killing someone with a gun, because it's the same result, if I was defending myself against a dark wizard and I used Diffindo to kill them, well I was just defending myself, but if I use Avada Kedavra to defend myself, Azkaban, explain that, you can't
@Canadian Gopnik Who said you can't go to Azkaban for using Diffindo on people? I'm just saying Diffindo can be used to cut through objects aswell, such as ice, and therefore isn't as malicious as Avada Kedavra. It's easier to prohibit a spell that has one function than a multi-purpose spell, which brings me back to my original analogy.
@Joakim Carlgren when did I say that you couldn't get sent to Azkaban for using Diffindo to kill someone? I you use Diffindo for self defense, you WOULDN'T get sent to Azkaban, but if you used Avada Kedavra, you WOULD get sent to Azkaban even if it was self defense, you're putting words in my mouth
It was not the headmaster that killed her-
Honestly I think both parties are wrong here. Isidora for not studying her spell carefully enough to avoid turning people into husks and the keepers being wrong for arbitrarily banning all use of the magic. Then straight up attacking and killing isidora (they attacked first, what she did was a) not lethal and b) arguably self defence, they straight up used the killing curse.).
She had been warned multiple times before it got to this point, and she didn't listen because she thought that she knew better than everybody else. And surprise surprise, she didn't, because she basically turned her father into a shell. The same way that Voldemort was terrified of something as natural as death, Isidora imply never learned how to accept that sadness and grief are a part of life.
Hogwarts: The killing curse is unforgivable and a terrible spell to never be used unless you are a dark wizard
Also Hogwarts: so yeah here is a spell to turn people into exploding barrels and throw them at your enemy killing both
So deadly
Really hated how there was no option to call the guy out. He murdered a woman that, by all means, was defending herself from them.
He could've literally used any spell. And then he has the gall to give you shit if you say you find Isidora interesting
Did you not realize how EVIL she was? She was stripping all emotions and free will out of people to "fix pain" causing her victims to be mindless husks, and she wanted to do this for the whole world! Plus the event took place sometime in the 1400s when spells like that wasn't considered illegal yet.
@999haunted she wasn't evil, misguided. she had good intentions
I’d rather be dead than be one of her victims
@AdachiSimp A path to hell is paved with good intentions.
Isadora was evil dude... if you don't think that you got some issues
So it wasn’t the Headmaster who used it
Well, that’s one way to do it…
So she's Isidora Riddle?
San Bankar had eggs and solved the problem. I liked.
I would have casted it the second time I see her if I am any character in that world.
He had to wait for the cooldown
I mean patrivicustotalus would have done just the job to stop her but okay
Sickest avada kedavra scene
San Bakar is true giga chad real 🐍
Isidora Voldemort? She wasn't a voldemort.... that isn't even a family name or even Voldemort's real name...
She wasn’t but the blind kid Grant is a descendant of Voldemort just look it up
@Fire Kracker grant is not the descendant of voldermort. He’s the descendant of Salazar. Tom riddle wasn’t even born yet, do you know what descendant means? 💀
Isidora Voldemort? What?
Percival looks a lot like Sindri from GOW
No he doesn’t the closes he is to a god of war character is Mimir