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Blackfyre Rebellions: House Targaryen’s greatest enemies

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  • Published on Feb 5, 2023 veröffentlicht

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  • Alt Shift X
    Alt Shift X  Year ago +625

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    • Inga Mgoduka
      Inga Mgoduka 4 days ago

      Targaryen's have silver-Gold hairs only Lannisters who are famous by Blonde hairs.

    • Adrian MacGrath
      Adrian MacGrath Month ago

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    • Maurice Smiles
      Maurice Smiles 5 months ago

      Qq

    • unstoppableExodia
      unstoppableExodia 5 months ago

      I should read the books?.....
      How ‘bout noooo?
      Just because Georgie boy is pretty much gonna leave all the book reading nerds with the bluest of balls doesn’t mean I need to let it happen to me. The tv show may have had a disappointing ending but it least it did have a conclusion. Winds of winter at this stage looks highly unlikely GRRM has lost the passion for the mainline series and he’s not getting any younger. He just wants to enjoy his success and live the high life and dabble with side projects. Maybe he’s keeping extensive notes and he’s raising up a crew of trusted underlings who will be able to thread the eye of the needle when he’s no longer around.
      However I’m not holding my breath. He’s probably got an air right contract written up that will ensure every single one of his unpublished writings will be run through a shredder, burned or deleted the moment his heart stops beating. I know it’s morbid and in bad taste to say it so plainly but of all the authors who seem likely to do that I’d put him in the top three at least.

    • Chris D
      Chris D 5 months ago

      Old man

  • benny_boy
    benny_boy Year ago +13522

    I swear I know more about the Targaryen dynasty than real history at this point

    • Aidan Biton
      Aidan Biton 3 days ago

      who was the fifth king of westeros?

    • ChrisTh
      ChrisTh 7 days ago

      @Treize Khushrenada « radical revisionist… »
      The man is so fragile he can’t take different opinions.

    • JP
      JP 11 days ago

      🤣🤣 fair enough. Martin based a lot of GoT on real events though. The Wars of the Roses, the Black Dinner, Habsburg inbreeding, Charles the Mad, Henry VIII seems to have inspired numerous Kings of Westeros. You probably know more than you think now 🤣

    • ChrisTh
      ChrisTh 13 days ago

      which is sad because a lot of materials from books, ASOIF being one of them, are inspired from real history/persons.
      And, even if there are no dragons or fantasy/ sci fi, real history can be even crazier than books sometime

    • lame-o
      lame-o 20 days ago

      a man after my own heart lmao

  • Alice Deligny
    Alice Deligny Month ago +77

    I'm thinking Young Griff didn't get enough Westerosi History lessons if he thinks it's normal that the Golden Company supports him.

    • Alice Deligny
      Alice Deligny 4 hours ago

      @Ryan Juguilon I'm pretty sure they hate Targaryens, why would they fucking fight for the people they were trying to destroy and who essentially exiled them or flat out destroyed their houses. They didn't fight for Viserys or Daenerys (whom they met), why would they fight for Aegon if he's a Targaryen like them. This makes it all the more suspicious...the fact that they were kept apart is very interesting in that regard.

    • Ryan Juguilon
      Ryan Juguilon 4 hours ago

      Who would they support? There was no longer a Blackfyre since its supposed to be extinct. If the Golden company wants to return to Westoros and get their lands back only a Targeryan claimant can do it. Blackfyre or true Targeryan Aegon is one of their best bet to finally come home

  • Austin 123
    Austin 123 3 months ago +1284

    Think we can all agree that George RR Martin is probably one of the coolest people when it comes to things like this. He's created a world filled with drama and history over hundreds of years.

    • Owen Leal
      Owen Leal 2 months ago

      @Alan DA this is the single biggest dick-suck I've ever seen.

    • Owen Leal
      Owen Leal 2 months ago +2

      @Dan Haggerty not ripped. Analagous in some aspects, but hardly a carbon copy.

    • Samuel
      Samuel 2 months ago +3

      @Nathan Cunningham nahh let him be😂😂he just meatriding hard bro never touch another book

    • Nathan Cunningham
      Nathan Cunningham 2 months ago +12

      @Alan DA Tolkien's world is literally the benchmark of modern fantasy, like, old valyria and it's collapse is literally numenor

    • Alan DA
      Alan DA 3 months ago +1

      @Dan Haggerty and most of Tolkien is just illogical craddle-stories

  • Láďa Faltys
    Láďa Faltys Year ago +2096

    I often don't like when authors lie how they had it all planned from the beginning and fill their stories with retcons, but seeing how neatly the War of the Ninepenny Kings brings all the fathers and grandfathers of so many characters together and ties seamlessly into the main story just blows my mind

    • Connie Carter
      Connie Carter Month ago

      👌

    • Jonathan O'Riley
      Jonathan O'Riley 2 months ago +1

      @Senna Asad I've been under the impression that people hype up Euron way too much. Like yeah, he is going to be a significant threat, especially with the possibility that he might use the Dragonbinder horn against Daenerys' dragons (although it might be more for the dragon egg he aquired - either way him having a dragon is bad news), but I have significant doubts that we are going to see all this super big Eldritch horror stuff people keep insisting is coming with his plotline.
      Again, the biggest threat Euron poses is with the artifacts he aquired from Old Valyria, such his Valyrian Steel armor and the Dragonbinder, and it's much more likely that those items will be center stage when the climactic final showdowns of the story take place rather than whatever Eldritch horror hype people give him.
      Maybe I'll be wrong, who knows. That's just my two cents on the matter.

    • Senna Asad
      Senna Asad 2 months ago

      @Jonathan O'Riley It's amazing that you didn't even mention the likes of Euron or Bloodraven in your summary. To me Euron is THE example of jumping the shark. Simply because he's a character who sounds like he should be part of a creation myth for house Greyjoy, rather than a present figure that the world needs to deal with

    • Tao Biaf
      Tao Biaf 2 months ago +2

      @Jonathan O'Riley a lot of your listed problems aren't problems.
      Jon Snow coming back as a fire wight with a changed personality works fine, and he might even choose to die after the story (see Beric Dondarrion). Lady Stoneheart is just a plot device to bring Arya back into the light, will most likely die 1 or 2 chapters after sending Jaime to kill Cersei. Faegon's invasion will result in Dany burning KL or something similar, again he is a plot device (see Quentyn). Tyrion won't be Hand of the King, but 100% a hostage. Dany would have to be braindead to kill him, which she isn't.
      Euron will play a role in the Others' storyline and so will Bran. Idk what Martin has in mind but it's not gunna be grounded and realistic, it's going to involve lots of eldritch blood magic.
      Martin hasn't "written himself into a corner" just because you don't have the imagination or reading and comprehension skills to see where the story is going.

    • Justin Emery
      Justin Emery 2 months ago

      @unropednope46 it's not that he doesn't PLAN to finish, fool, VALAR MORGHULIS. He still has an entire 7th book to complete, and look at the guy. He aint exactly a picture of health.

  • Baron von Dergner
    Baron von Dergner 2 months ago +61

    Glad to see that Bloodraven grew his eye back after half a century

  • starwarsnerd100
    starwarsnerd100 Year ago +12025

    "So Bittersteel was bitter". This is the kind of deep analysis and critical thinking that keeps me coming back to this channel lol.

    • DaStellarNapster
      DaStellarNapster 5 months ago

      @STOMPER lol. U fuckin love it bub

    • STOMPER
      STOMPER 5 months ago

      @DaStellarNapster bahahshahs omg YOUR SO FUNNY!!!! NOT!!!!!!

    • DaStellarNapster
      DaStellarNapster 5 months ago +3

      Maybe his lower- steel was bitter because he couldn't have his lil sister.

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 6 months ago +2

      @Pedro Valente so that would make that child bittersweet

    • 3e electric
      3e electric 6 months ago

      clip-share.net/video/FzjEaS4al-o/video.html

  • Big Bean
    Big Bean 2 months ago +100

    The fact that Egg named one of his kids “Duncan the small” after Duncan the tall has to be the best detail in the entire series

  • Femke V.
    Femke V. 5 months ago +813

    Hearing the theory of Bran becoming king as a puppet of the Three-Eyed Raven makes me think that George told D&D, "Bran will be king in the end," but didn't elaborate beyond that.

    • Owen Leal
      Owen Leal 23 days ago

      @Markus Haahr no one told D&D to write all the inconsistencies and character assassinations that they did.

    • Al G
      Al G Month ago

      @Jordn Chn I suspect cerci will marry euron greyjoy. And ally casterly rock to his cause and take out the reach. I think staniss will deafet the freys but lose against the Bolton. Leaving Jon to take them on with the wild lings and the Vale.

    • Al G
      Al G Month ago

      Yes this is 100% my theory. Ive said to a few people the ending of got makes alot more sense in the context of the book.

    • Konrad Pietrzak
      Konrad Pietrzak Month ago

      @TheVoidLord He would be like Odin, his crown and eyes would be every where, so every plot against him will be quickly discover and quite down. And also he is propably also immortal.

    • VoidOneGamer
      VoidOneGamer 2 months ago +1

      @Markus Haahr I don't feel too bad for them at all, they quit caring. When they want to be, they are good writers.

  • xHayashi
    xHayashi Year ago +3615

    "They don't want Aegon to be king cause he travelled with this hedge knight... And got these crazy ideas that peasants should have rights and stuff..." I can't believe how hard I laughed at this LOL

    • Ilya Rysenkov
      Ilya Rysenkov 2 months ago

      Yup, treating people equally or at least with less prejudice and injustice is so crazy!

    • ALPHA GAMER
      ALPHA GAMER 3 months ago

      @Leon Russell but it's not like their smallfolk has a say, the nobles choose the new Iron King or Queen

    • Aaron Hock
      Aaron Hock 3 months ago

      he should have been king

    • Emre
      Emre 4 months ago

      Ahahahahaha me, too! xd

    • Khoi Vo
      Khoi Vo 5 months ago +11

      @Shaheen Shad Depends. Historically we have Poland, whose kings were voted into office by a bunch of lords. In the end, the oligarchic system, and the competing interests of the lords failed the Kingdom, leading to the "Deluge" and dissolution of Poland as a country until the modern age. In general, it stands to reason that an oligarchic system would work better, however in a historical context, there are not that many oligarchies and the ones that exists are not any better than the kingdoms and empires around it.

  • C.W.Simpson Productions
    C.W.Simpson Productions 6 months ago +1169

    The Targaryens’ greatest enemy was always themselves. The Dance of the Dragons, the Blackfyre Rebellions, Robert’s Rebellion, the inevitable Dany/Faegon conflict. Their lust for power was always their undoing, even at the brink of extinction.

    • Dhruv
      Dhruv Month ago +1

      So if Young Griff is a Blackfyre, is his real name probably Daemon? and not Faegon?

    • Why are you reading my nickname?
      Why are you reading my nickname? Month ago +2

      @Being Anna Faegon stands for "Fake Aegon", which is a nickname for Aegon "Young Griff" made by fans.

    • Being Anna
      Being Anna 2 months ago

      Faegon?

    • Emily _KN5
      Emily _KN5 2 months ago +2

      This is one of the reasons, i dont want that a Targaryen gets the Throne in the end, because their „lust for power“ will maybe bring new wars…

    • Adlib Constitution
      Adlib Constitution 3 months ago +19

      @J K. Robert Baratheon literally has Targ blood in him, that is why the lords made him king than Ned stark

  • S1apSh0es
    S1apSh0es Year ago +565

    Broke: Blackfyre Rebellion
    Joke: War of the Ninepenny Kings
    Woke: The Struggle for Shiera Seastar's Snatch

    • GAD ABNER
      GAD ABNER 6 months ago

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      GAD ABNER 6 months ago

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      GAD ABNER 6 months ago

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      GAD ABNER 6 months ago

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      GAD ABNER 6 months ago

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  • Kevin Avelar
    Kevin Avelar 5 months ago +332

    I completely buy into Young Griff being a Blackfire. It just makes so much more sense than him actually being Aegon.

    • Mer Iem
      Mer Iem 2 days ago

      The only thing that makes me lean more into the "Blackfyre" theory is : everyone in the redkeep knew the young prince Aegon, they knew how he looked like . So switching him wouldn't have worked on Tywin. But I still hope it's him . I support the Targaryan rule as well

    • Liker of videos
      Liker of videos Month ago

      I’m convinced Varys may be a blackfyre and has kept his head shaven to hide his silver hair.

    • Starry Night
      Starry Night 2 months ago +4

      Blackfyre and Targareans are all the same. If Griff is proven to be capable, I think it's fine to let him fulfill his cause

    • Starry Night
      Starry Night 2 months ago +2

      @Wingnut1989 me too. Give us some hope, grrm. We all know that a Targarean living alone in the world is always a terrible thing.

    • Wingnut1989
      Wingnut1989 3 months ago +6

      I fucking want griff to be Aegon so bad

  • Cory Thompson
    Cory Thompson 4 months ago +182

    I can't believe the show completely omitted the Young Griff plotline. This is the first time I'm hearing of it and I want to see a show/movie adaptation of it. Come on, an exiled prince who's supposedly the last of House Targaryen's biggest rival/obstacle and has the biggest potential to win the Game of Thrones before Daenerys even sets foot on Westeros, that's made for the silver screen!

    • Randell Goering
      Randell Goering 11 days ago +2

      I and MANY others think that Varys the Spider is a secret Blackfyre. He shaves his head to not give his platinum hair away. "Varys" sounds like a Targaryen name. Varys is POSSIBLY Shira Seastars son. Varys got his balls cut off in a bloodmagic ritual because of his kings blood. And Varys plot is all for young Griff to take the iron throne for the Blackfyres

    • omega1397
      omega1397 Month ago +16

      This plot line in the books, believe it or not, was very controversial. Many thought it was pointless and questioned why GRRM is bringing in a whole new claimant to the throne. When he was cut from Season 5 it was regarded as a good call. I was always one of those that defended Young Griff.
      And then Season 8 happened, and everybody realised "Oh, I guess Griff is more important to the story then we thought" there was a post in the subreddit basically saying that removing Young Griff is the source for Dany's plotline falling apart. Turns out the incredibly meticulous author has an intent of grave importance for a character that was foreshadowed several books ago lol.
      To toot my own horn a little, it was a great hit of vindication. Better than heroin.

    • SunnyDayTeaFactory
      SunnyDayTeaFactory 4 months ago +24

      We have this whole backstory to the blackfyres for a reason, perhaps.

  • Connor Mohun
    Connor Mohun 4 months ago +338

    I’d love to see the full Blackfyre rebellion war after HOTD is finished. I feel it’s a time that’s so well developed and fleshed out it’s needed!

    • Nikoloz Nasaridze
      Nikoloz Nasaridze 29 days ago

      @Ahmad Tarek yeah, throughout many seasons. The Blackfyre spin off is needed, just as Aegon's conquest, and of course Robert's rebellion itself

    • Fig Jam
      Fig Jam 3 months ago +1

      @Alex James wouldn't even really need an episode, just a 10-15 minute sequence at the start of the season. "something, something, something. dragons died out. something, something, this guy is called Aegon the unworthy." show starts.

    • Justin Sarvela
      Justin Sarvela 3 months ago

      George said that the series needs at least 4 seasons to tell the story properly. At this pace, that could cover a large bit of the 200 year gap. I'd love for it to work through all the Blackfyre stories.

    • Azwan
      Azwan 3 months ago

      I would love to see it but I dont think they would make a show on the blackfyre rebellion even for years after hotd ends because to a more casual audience they would probably think "oh another Targaryen Civil War but this time without dragons."
      Maybe after hotd hbo might do Aegons conquest or the Long Night prequel instead.

    • Connor Mohun
      Connor Mohun 3 months ago

      @Wani-Zame agrees although dawn could solve that problem

  • Starhunter
    Starhunter Year ago +2522

    *I thought the greatest threat to Targaryens was "kind of forgetting" about their enemies while their enemies certainly haven't forgotten about them.*

    • Hypatia Kovalevskaya Sklodowska
      Hypatia Kovalevskaya Sklodowska 6 months ago

      😂😂😂

    • cuacho
      cuacho 6 months ago +1

      theres no way u can sneak up on a flying chopper from the ground and shoot 3 arrows perfectly ? lmao theres no need for heat seekers anymore then .season 6 was the end

    • Mister Majestic
      Mister Majestic Year ago

      @Mr. Fantastic less bad at least

    • 187btokes
      187btokes Year ago +1

      @Harleking YT I mean both the Faith and Old Town had no problems with the Good King. But then again he was way too good for Westeros. That's why everything fell apart after he died. No one would ever nor will ever live up to him and his two dead sons.

    • Starhunter
      Starhunter Year ago +1

      @Revan Ruler *It did peak in season 4 but 5 and 6 were good and awesome, respectively. I think those 2 seasons (especially 6) get more hate than warranted because they don't follow the books 📚.*

  • Deathgrapess
    Deathgrapess 4 months ago +234

    after the reveal of Aegon the Conquer's dream of ice and fire in HoTD, and Bloodraven's connection to prophecy, magic, and the old gods, i believe that Daemon Blackfyre was the brother he loved (by all accounts Daemon was a pretty great guy) but Bloodraven killed him to preserve the Targaryen dynasty in order to ensure the birth of the prince who was promised, which is an amazing layer tragedy

    • Fig Jam
      Fig Jam 3 months ago +17

      @Deathgrapess it has been pointed out to George that the Valyrians, the greatest empire the world has ever known who controlled massive sentient flying napalm cannons, built only a single outpost off the coast of Westeros and never attempted to go any further. almost as if they were afraid of something about Westeros. like maybe Dragonstone itself was a kind of watchtower to keep an eye on it. at which point George answered, (paraphrasing) "yes, that is kind of interesting" and then refused to elaborate further. so, there is that.

    • J G
      J G 3 months ago +18

      @The_Drop Bear the book isn’t canon either, in a way, it’s just what the Maesters and Mushroom believe happened or were told what happened, that’s what makes the show incredibly intriguing.

    • Deathgrapess
      Deathgrapess 3 months ago +10

      @The_Drop Bear its an idea in the books though, in an interview with grrm, he mentioned how some people think this is the reason for aegons conquest, whether it is true in the books will probably never be confirmed, but the big man himself has confirmed it is an idea

    • The_Drop Bear
      The_Drop Bear 3 months ago +8

      That is probably just a HotD thing, given the show isn't canon and the Prince that was promised turned out tk be a load of horseshit im the show

    • J G
      J G 3 months ago +17

      I’m rewatching this video for the umpteenth time, and I came up with a tinfoil idea, cause recently someone on the ASOIAF Reddit posted how many Targaryens were alive at one time during the 300 years, and basically Aegon IV single-handedly doubled the amount of Targaryens alive, so my tinfoil idea is what if he knew about the Prophecy? And he figured that the best defense would be to have as many Targs around to mount a defense, but of course he was also despicable, and bitter, so the tactic wasn’t exactly based in good faith

  • Rizky Mubaroq
    Rizky Mubaroq Year ago +434

    Gotta give it to Golden Company for staying loyal to their commitment of putting a Blackfyre on the throne

    • Isiah Arellano
      Isiah Arellano 3 months ago +12

      I think it's more driven by Bittersteel's hatred for Bloodraven and the fact that he felt cucked by Bloodraven for having Shiera Seastar 😂😂😂😂

    • Chirag Goyal
      Chirag Goyal 3 months ago +19

      @I am not Bob Dylan they are loyal to Blackfyre not for money

    • I am not Bob Dylan
      I am not Bob Dylan 3 months ago +3

      well they are mercenary, as long you pay them they will be loyal

    • Hogger
      Hogger 4 months ago +57

      Well, their word _is_ as good as gold.

  • Bibitybopitybacon
    Bibitybopitybacon Year ago +515

    Blackfyre also had a good claim through his mother. Daena was from the senior line while Aegon the unworthy and his father came from the Junior line. Lots of people thought Daena should have been queen after all her brothers died, not her uncle.

    • Adlib Constitution
      Adlib Constitution 3 months ago +5

      Daemon Blackfyre is pure Targaryen!
      His name should be Daemon Targaryen!

    • Nathan Portwoman
      Nathan Portwoman 4 months ago

      @Pedro Lucas sucks being a bastard doesn’t it? Lol

    • Priyam Tolani
      Priyam Tolani 5 months ago

      After the Targaryen civil war, it was established that the male line would always be superior and preferred to the female line. So your senior/junior analysis doesn't work.

    • 9xprincess
      9xprincess 5 months ago +4

      @Pedro Lucas That would have made more sense lol

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas 5 months ago +44

      Daemon could easily be the heir to the throne If Viserys II and Daeron I married Aegon IV to Daena instead of Naerys and Baelor!

  • Prince Procrastinate
    Prince Procrastinate Year ago +121

    A lot of people interpret the "mummer's dragon" to mean a fake dragon, but what if it literally means "Varys' dragon" as in this Targaryen is merely his puppet, could be that Aegon really is potentially the son of Elia and Rhaegar, but he is utterly Varys' instrument whether aware of it or not.

    • sinwithagrin
      sinwithagrin 3 months ago +4

      Huh. I never thought of that but it still doesn't explain the golden company.

    • w0ttheh3ll
      w0ttheh3ll 7 months ago +12

      note: mummers' dragon vs mummer's dragon
      the spelling suggests that we're looking at a specific mummer, not mummers in general

  • Kal
    Kal 4 months ago +111

    Damn. even 50 years after his age Daemon was revered as 'the wonder and the terror of his age'
    GOALS.

  • EB
    EB 5 months ago +188

    The fact that Quentyn Ball joined Daemon the moment he didn't have his way shows how wise Daeron was to not accept him to kingsguard.

    • Yea Hey
      Yea Hey 2 months ago +3

      Yea I’m just 😊😊

  • Mackenzie Young
    Mackenzie Young Month ago +12

    Still wild that daemon blackfyre is the purest bastard ever 😂

    • Mackenzie Young
      Mackenzie Young 9 hours ago

      @JEAN WEDAM yep his mother was targaryen royalty as well as his father

    • JEAN WEDAM
      JEAN WEDAM Day ago +1

      Fr bro

  • Yago Pacheco
    Yago Pacheco 4 months ago +64

    To think that bloodraven was the mentor to Bran who eventually get the iron throne is incredibly bizarre and I hope we get more information about this in the books if it eventually leads in that direction

  • AC4X
    AC4X Year ago +5152

    Fun fact: Robert Baratheon and Rhaegar Targaryen were literally second cousins. Robert’s Rebellion was kind of just another familial civil war.

    • H
      H Month ago

      @VA We’re all kinslayers if you go back far enough. Your only responsibility is to care for those that care for you.

    • Kamryn McDonald
      Kamryn McDonald 2 months ago

      And if Jon becomes king in the book that’d still be a Targaryen on the throne

    • Tshepos Manaka
      Tshepos Manaka 4 months ago

      It is known

    • Michael Henry
      Michael Henry 4 months ago +1

      @Ralco Gaming No, that's pretty much entirely wrong. The Baratheons did not rule as storm kings prior to the Conquest, that was the Durrandons. The Baratheon origin is unknown, they might've been a vassal house of the Targaryens or maybe the name was invented, but the first Baratheon we know of was Orys Baratheon, rumored to be Aegon the Conqueror's bastard brother. He was Aegon's right hand man during the Conquest and was named first hand of the king. He defeated Argilac Durrandon during the war, the last King of the Stormlands. He then married Argilac's daughter and took the stylings of the Durrandons (their sigil, house words, association with storms, etc.) and Aegon granted him lordship of the Stormlands. Robert Baratheon's great grandfather, Lyonel Baratheon, briefly rebelled against the Crown, naming himself a new Storm King when his daughter's betrothal to the crown prince was broken. He was defeated, but as a concession Aegon V betrothed his daughter Rhaelle to Lyonel's heir, Ormund. Rhaelle and Ormund had a son, Steffon. Steffon and Cassana Estermont had Robert. Thus Robert's grandmother was a Targaryen. This heritage was used to provide Robert with legitimacy after the rebellion, as Robert actually was next in line to the throne after Aerys and Rhaegar (and his children's) deaths, ignoring Viserys and Daenerys. Funnily enough, tracing Targaryen succession, Stannis is next in line to the throne behind Daenerys. If Dany dies, Stannis would be both the legal heir to the throne via the Baratheon line and via the Targaryen line.

    • Emre
      Emre 4 months ago

      @Hiyama420 Wow, that would blow my mind! But no background there...

  • Jonathan O'Riley
    Jonathan O'Riley 4 months ago +161

    I like how Blackfyre is essentially an allegory for how one's greatest enemy is often the one of their own making.

  • Holy Doggo
    Holy Doggo 5 months ago +102

    damn, knowing daemon in the heat of battle helped his wounded enemy get to safety only to be peppered with arrows by his half brother kind just hurts man

    • Moh Khan11
      Moh Khan11 20 days ago +2

      He was the true king

    • Owen Leal
      Owen Leal 22 days ago

      It be your own people sometimes.

  • Faturachman Farasy
    Faturachman Farasy Year ago +105

    This game of thrones novel should be made into a series. Hopefully it would be written by competent writers who care more about sticking with the original material than their own ego.

    • Senna Asad
      Senna Asad 2 months ago +1

      @Noah Pancakes HotD is written by Martin lol
      According to him HotD is how it happened, while the books (well...the few pages we get of it) are inaccurate/biased retellings

    • Noah Pancakes
      Noah Pancakes 3 months ago

      There even fucking up house of the dragons with there ego and going away from the story kindab

    • XxMidnightToker420xX
      XxMidnightToker420xX 4 months ago

      That would be nice

    • W.A.S
      W.A.S 4 months ago +1

      Amen to that.. rayan condal seems trustworthy.

  • JollyBritishChap
    JollyBritishChap 2 months ago +23

    Man, English teachers the world over have been waiting for this. “Why was his name bittersteel, what is the author trying to say?”
    “Bittersteel was bitter”

  • Rain Varela
    Rain Varela 5 months ago +86

    Young Griff should have been included in Game of Thrones. They should have had added more seasons to do so

    • Let Me Tell Ya Lil Story
      Let Me Tell Ya Lil Story 4 months ago +2

      100%

    • mapping shaman
      mapping shaman 4 months ago

      @God Emperor of Mankind 3.0 they shouldn't have got rid of eurons bullshit, they should have given him his crazy cthulu bullshit he has in the books

    • Josh Mcelhaney
      Josh Mcelhaney 5 months ago +21

      Agreed, there are several characters and storylines that were cut that would have been great and provided material for more seasons

    • God Emperor of Mankind 3.0
      God Emperor of Mankind 3.0 5 months ago

      he could have been included if they got rid of unnecessary boring storylines like Grey Worm and Missandei, Euron's bullshit and cock jokes.

  • generaljive
    generaljive 5 months ago +101

    Introducing Griff as another antagonist in a post cersei, post white walker story could have been a cool pivot in the final season.

    • Erebus
      Erebus  4 months ago +15

      @Markus Haahr Euron is the final baddie, he is Harkoon the hero, the lightbringer who will bring the long night

    • Markus Haahr
      Markus Haahr 4 months ago +20

      That or crazy lovecraftian Euron.

    • Travis Illerbrun
      Travis Illerbrun 5 months ago +34

      They had a good set up. The golden company was introduced.

  • Maverick Smith
    Maverick Smith Year ago +56

    The Blackfyre rebellions are probably my favorite piece of asoiaf history and I am deeply vested in the Blackfyres, so this was really really cool to see you cover this. Thank you!

  • Trumoi
    Trumoi Year ago +34

    The Ninepenny Kings are probably my favorite (incredibly minor) group of characters. I think I'm always fond of outlaws and outcasts who gripped power and use it to smash at Lords.
    But I'm aware they would've been just as bad if not worse if they had won.

  • Dane Johnson
    Dane Johnson Year ago +2121

    It’s funny how Robert is technically still Aegon the Conqueror’s descendant in that opening

    • CharlesFreck
      CharlesFreck Year ago +1

      @King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England The only thing that is abundantly clear is that you've never read the books

    • Son of Jack
      Son of Jack Year ago

      @Mellow Yello Jaehaerys' mom got with a Baratheon, Jocelyn, they had a daughter that married her nephew Aemon. They had Rhaenys together.
      After that I'm pretty sure that Ormund was the last one to produce progeny with a Targaryen.

    • books from Windblown
      books from Windblown Year ago

      @علي ياسر Ironically Targaryen we’re strangers to Westeros, long before the conquest

    • iMajoraGaming
      iMajoraGaming Year ago +4

      @Stego1819 They used vague elements of the Winds of Winter after source material ended, they did not and by and large did not get most of the later seasons from George. They got vague hints and a handful of minor things like Hold-the-Door. They made their own story and even when they followed the source material they told a radically different story than the books by huge meterics. Bran will not be made King. I am calling it now. There is zero chance the unwritten end books are going to end the story like that, sorry dude. They haven't even been written yet.
      Stego is just downright wrong though.

    • Stego1819
      Stego1819 Year ago +2

      @lidocaine pka If that were the case the show would have ended like that but it didnt. The show ended with Bran being king and we know that D&D have their ending from GRRM.

  • tommyormerod068
    tommyormerod068 Year ago +19

    The “point” of Young Griff vs Danaerys may be that it wakes her up to how her house, and the Valyrians before them, fell … through not being united. Then she realises she can’t unite the kingdom and summons the great houses to decide “what unites people” like the final episode. Just an idea 🤔

  • 123 vict
    123 vict 8 months ago +64

    The thing is young griff actually is a good kid and might actually be a great king whether he's a blackfyre, targaryen or some common valyrian bastard doesn't change the fact that he's a good dude and also really good at rallying people to his side like he did with the golden company leaders remember they were ready to say "screw this we're not gonna fight for you" but then young griff said some words and suddenly they were like "hell yeah we'll fight for you" and the men of the golden company really seem to like him and even if the leaders (whom he personally had to rally) believe he's a blackfyre, the bulk of the golden company think he's targaryen.

    • Mike Trujillo
      Mike Trujillo 4 months ago +8

      @Dustin Gaethje well isn't that hats his "small council" is for

    • Dustin Gaethje
      Dustin Gaethje 4 months ago +1

      @Mike Trujillo Not being a tactical genius makes him bad, as he can be manipulated easily by anyone who's gonna be there with him in King's Landing.

    • Mike Trujillo
      Mike Trujillo 4 months ago

      @Charlie Ricker fair

    • Charlie Ricker
      Charlie Ricker 4 months ago

      @Mike Trujillo tactical

    • Mike Trujillo
      Mike Trujillo 4 months ago +16

      @Kree Lesley just cause he's good doesn't mean he's a tactile genius, I mean he's still a kid

  • Piers Spicer
    Piers Spicer Month ago +9

    Can't wait for more videos on Targaryen history. Would love to see a video on Maegor the Cruel and Jaherys the Consilliator

  • Alex James
    Alex James 4 months ago +38

    Personally I like the idea that in fact in a cruel twist of fate Dany is the mummers dragon, that her heritage is a lie and she doesn't realise until the last minute. As targeryan dreams usually lead to their downfall as they misrepresent the information to fuel false ambition.
    The term 'slayer of lies' could also have a double meaning which I've not heard anyone else mention thus far. Yes it could refer to someone who slays a liar. But it could also refer to a liar known to kill, that her slaying is based on lies.
    It seems to me like that could be a more convincing and shocking twist which would reframe the characters actions up to that point in a very fascinating way.

  • Random2730
    Random2730 Year ago +34

    At this point your summarized theories are as good as we're gonna get, so canon in my books. Thanks for the great work! (Also wow there's a lot of great new art for these characters huh?)

  • Thalmor Agent
    Thalmor Agent Year ago +61

    14:52
    While yes, the Blackfire Rebellion could've been stopped had Daemon at least been imprisoned, I still feel that killing Aenys and Haegon Blackfire (especially Aenys) was a bit much. Haegon maybe, since he had just surrendered and maybe the idea of rebellion was still heavy in his mind, but he killed Aenys after essentially betraying him by breaking his promise, which is enough to incite rebellious thoughts in others.

    • Chirag Goyal
      Chirag Goyal 3 months ago

      @mapping shaman that too only when no other male heirs were left

    • mapping shaman
      mapping shaman 4 months ago +6

      Plus aenys wasn't even being violent, he was trying to claim the throne peacefully.

  • Todd Howard
    Todd Howard 3 months ago +11

    Is it possible that Aegon didn’t actually legitimize his bastards? Is it possible that the maesters lied to create another rift in the Targaryen dynasty?

  • thesalanian
    thesalanian Year ago +49

    I really want the feud between Bloodraven and Bittersteel to come to fruition somehow, with the Golden Company maybe facing off against the Old Gods in some way

  • Derek Dietz
    Derek Dietz Year ago +1031

    Still think “beneath the gold, the bitter steel” is one of the hardest lines of the books

    • Edriss Scofield
      Edriss Scofield 2 months ago

      Never forget the humble "Though All Men Do Despise Us"

    • mapping shaman
      mapping shaman 4 months ago +5

      "Unbowed, unbent, unbroken" is a good one because it shows how house martell has never truly been defeated.

    • ED the Happy Clown
      ED the Happy Clown 5 months ago +5

      "We do not sow" is such a blunt and badass threat in my opinion and I always thought it is pretty cool. But I like "Ours is the fury" and the phrase of the Golden Company as well.

    • brandon the writer
      brandon the writer 5 months ago +5

      @bait "Go on, take your bloody raven."
      "Lady Catelyn felt as though her heart had turned to stone."
      The fucking subtlety is stunning, George

    • bait
      bait 5 months ago +1

      Winter is coming

  • Tainan
    Tainan 3 months ago +8

    Just one thing I thought was unclear. It is said in the books that Bloodraven's intentionally targeted the twin sons of Daemon BlackFire. Because he knew the Daemon would not abandon his children. And that's what happened, after Bloodraven's and his archers had killed his children, Daemon refused to let go of the bodies, which made it easy for Bloodraven's to kill him with his archers.
    Bloodraven was also the last wielder of the darksister sword. When Brann finds him in the cave, if I'm not mistaken, he also finds the sword. Another thing the series ruined...

  • Michael Silver
    Michael Silver 10 months ago +8

    I come back to this channel's content more than any other GoT channel. Just the perfect balance of info, thoughtful analysis and a dash of humor. Well done

  • dinasoursgoroar
    dinasoursgoroar 3 months ago +3

    I truly love watching and learning from your videos. Your work is appreciated, and thank you for the time and effort you put in to every one of these videos.

  • cobra888
    cobra888 Year ago +61

    Sometimes I just imagine someone like Oversimplified narrating the history of Game of Thrones.
    "This enraged his father......who punished him severely".

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 7 months ago +3

      Daeron Targaryen liked to read books and listen to women
      this enraged his father who punished him severely

  • Stalin-In-Disguise?
    Stalin-In-Disguise? Year ago +2624

    House targaryen: "no one can defeat me"
    House targaryen but slightly different: "think again"

    • Moh Khan11
      Moh Khan11 20 days ago

      Bobby B fk those white boys up

    • Emre
      Emre 4 months ago

      Ahahahaahh

    • Ethan Winters
      Ethan Winters 4 months ago +14

      @Meghana AP Eng Even the guy who started the Baratheon house was a bastard brother to Aegon.

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 4 months ago

      @Khushi Shah. Yeah but that was not the reason he was king

    • Khushi Shah.
      Khushi Shah. 4 months ago +15

      @Faisal kamal Robert Baratheon is of Targaryen blood. He and Rhaegar were cousins. His grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen.

  • Jonpluke Hughes
    Jonpluke Hughes 3 months ago +5

    This story can be said to be a lot more interesting and nuanced than the dance is, really hope to see the blackfyre story on screen

  • David Cortes
    David Cortes 3 months ago +7

    I personally believe that it all comes down to the topic that GRRM likes best: Lust for power is always the undoing of those who wield it, even at the brink of extinction, they'd rather destroy the place than to loose or not have their way and be forced to make compromises.

  • confused
    confused Year ago +13

    I only recently discovered this channel and now I am binge watching. Your voice is incredibly soothing and due to your pace I can understand everything in a 30 minute or more video. Please, continue to make more videos, for we will watch your career with great interest!

  • Stephen
    Stephen Year ago +14

    I did not see Blood Raven being the three-eyes crow, that blew my mind.

  • Portia
    Portia Year ago +75

    I’m dead at the fact you used a 18th century portrait of a woman and colored her hair green and called her Rohanne of Tyrosh 😂

    • Peter
      Peter 5 months ago +1

      That cracked me up too lmao

  • Caron 11.09
    Caron 11.09 9 months ago +20

    Guys like Griff and an independent book- like Euron would have given the Series the plots and tension it would have needed. It was only about action and war. The end was more or less foreseeable. This would have given material for a great season 7 and 8 i think.
    I always thought, that Euron didn’t learn that much on his tours and kinda wasted them.
    I mean, he could have had an army full of people and techniques around the world.
    In the book, he is a smart and scary unpredictable person.

  • Matt 1
    Matt 1 5 months ago +10

    Can you make a playlist that has all your videos based in the thrones universe in chronological order? Would be cool to try and wrap my head round it in order 😂 great video as always!

  • Ben Trinker
    Ben Trinker 5 months ago +12

    Daeron sounds based af. He stabilized the relationship with their enemy Dorn and kept the insane faction daemon in check!

  • Uros Vukovic
    Uros Vukovic Year ago +10

    I think that Asoiaf book ending would have some similarities with a GoT show with some smaller differences.
    In the show, when Daenerys found out about Jon's true parentage she felt frustrated and jealous. I really couldn't understand why she felt that way, because one of her main duties as a future ruler is to secure the legacy. And she couldn't wish for a better man than Jon Snow who would make her a true Targaryen heir.
    I imagine that book Daenerys would feel different about that and she would accept the truth about Jon being her nephew. But the main factor for awakening her genetic Targaryen madness would be just Aegon. Before Daenerys arives in Westeros, Aegon could liberate much of the realm, or even take the Iron throne away from the Lannisters. Things that might happen are those that the common people could name him Aegon the Liberator and his Blackfyre heritage officialy revealed. When Daenerys arrives the common people would not feel trustful about her mostly because of her foreigner army of Unsullied and Dothraki. She would be jealous over Aegon for winning the favor of Westerosi people over her but that jealosy could turn into true madness once she finds out he is a false Targaryen or Blackfyre, a sworn enemy of her ancestors who fought hard to secure the throne from them.
    That could be main reason for book Daenerys to commit the same attrocity she commited in the show's final season. Blackfyre line is finally destroyed in the Burning of King's Landing, Jon Snow assasinates Dany and Drogon destroying the Iron Throne in the same way it happened in the show with Bran Stark becoming a new king elected on the Great Council meeting.

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas 5 months ago +2

      While I think most of this will happen, Dany and fAegon, during the Burning of King's Landing, could have a moment similar to Frodo and Sam on Mount Doom after the Ring was destroyed, conciliating with each other before they die by the flames of the conflict they both started!

  • Tereza
    Tereza 3 months ago +3

    For some reason, I think the Targaryen lore is much better after the Dance of Dragons and after they loose their dragons, it's much more fun seeing the Targaryens face to face on the same level with the other lords, it gets boring with them resolving everything with OP dragons 😆

  • EndOfSmallSanctuary
    EndOfSmallSanctuary Year ago +9

    The fact that all of this is just background lore and took place decades before the main series is just staggering. I still struggle to comprehend how one man - Martin - can be responsible for all of this.

  • Danterik
    Danterik 3 months ago +7

    Damn. Bloodraven is the true MVP of this world honestly.

  • Lavinia Clark
    Lavinia Clark 9 months ago +10

    This whole thing kind of reminds me of the war of the roses. Two different lines descended from a king fought over the English throne for thirty years, and it eventually ended when the two lines married into each other and became one.
    So I think that the Targaryen-Blackfyre conflict could possibly end with a marriage between Griff and Dany. It would lend legitimacy to both of them as monarchs.

  • rob russell
    rob russell 5 months ago +5

    ive watched this video probably 6 times and still learn somthing everytime...i love this universe and honestly if they made this into a movie or like a small series that would be amazing

  • Kelley Condon
    Kelley Condon Year ago +2

    this is seriously very well put together and makes things very very understandable where it can get muddled in certain areas

  • Joel Ostergaard
    Joel Ostergaard Month ago

    *(**25:31**)* I love that animated House Targaryen sigil that shows each of the three dragon heads breathing fire in succession, ending with their necks bending down into the proper placement, as the whole thing slowly rotates counterclockwise! I'd be really interested to know where you got it from! Did you create it yourself or get it from some other source?

  • TheLetterM
    TheLetterM Year ago +1848

    "Duncan The Small, who is probably named after Duncan The Tall" Another solid theory!

    • Alec
      Alec 11 months ago +7

      @Blackfish I don't know! All I could find is that he refused to answer. Maybe he just has a policy against giving straight answers when it comes to characters' connections. Balerion the cat > "the bad cat," for instance. He doesn't even answer questions about cats.

    • Blackfish
      Blackfish 11 months ago +2

      @Alec Did GRRM specifically refuse to answer like a "hmm we'll see" kind of thing, or was it more like "are you seriously asking me this question with a super obvious answer"? Dunk is Egg's best friend and there's no other character called that in the whole series.

    • TheLetterM
      TheLetterM Year ago +2

      @Alec My theory is he is actually named after Small Paul from the Night's Watch

    • Alec
      Alec Year ago +17

      George R.R. Martin has been surprisingly quiet on this. No bullshit, it's actually _not_ confirmed.
      EDIT: I mean he's been asked specifically and refused to confirm or deny if Duncan the Small is named after Duncan the Tall.

    • Cheese is Jar
      Cheese is Jar Year ago +4

      @Shadriand wow maybe George should make some prequels about this!

  • C.C. Ekeke
    C.C. Ekeke Year ago +6

    Correction: Tywin, Steffon and Aerys became friends years before the War of the Ninepenny Kings. Aerys and Tywin's friendship began when Tywin served as a cupbearer at Kings Landing.

  • Roko Baraka
    Roko Baraka Year ago +6

    Might I persuade you to do a video on House Hightower? They are by far the most mystrious house in the Reach, especially considering they are a powerful ally and one of (if not the) richest houses, considering we have seen very little of them in the main story

  • HaveSpaceshipWillTravel
    HaveSpaceshipWillTravel 3 months ago +1

    I love your theories and support them completely. It makes so much sense, why would the Golden Company go back to Westeros with a Targaryen Prince? Only for a Blackfyre.

  • Cornelius Maze-Eye

    This one was excellent and a long time coming. Listening to you describe all of it, it's clear to me that it's vital for the ending of the story. Perhaps in the end it will be Danearys burning down King's Landing because she fears she's lost all legitimacy against what people think is a Targaryen, who she knows is not, instead of Cersei Lannister, who I'm going to guess will lose the throne to Young Griff while everyone else is busy fighting the White Walkers up North.

  • Divine Chareka
    Divine Chareka 3 days ago +1

    George RR Martin is definitely one of the greatest writers in the history of fantasy 🙌

  • Nikoloz Nasaridze
    Nikoloz Nasaridze 29 days ago +1

    For the first thing, this for sure proves that George Martin is a damn genius. I think he is my favorite writer after all, how he created all this is beyond my understanding. ASOIAF is the greatest fictional world for me

  • Alexander
    Alexander Year ago +5

    Aegon is essentially the Blackfyre version of Egg. Tough and humble upbringing, knows how the common people live, seems to have a good temperament. I think the trick is that Aegon wins the throne and turns out to be a great king, and when Dany returns and kills him she'll be hated for its and maybe that turns her mad?

  • LukasLambs
    LukasLambs Year ago +13

    Ngl I’d kinda love it if Young Gfriff ended up king, with or without Daenerys or Jon or anyone else. I think it would be a really cool twist and honestly not awful for the realm if he is truly as good as he is said to be.

  • Hampus den riktige Johannson

    I can just imagine bittersteel riding into combat with the tune of "Guess who's back, back again. Bittersteels' back, Tell a friend" playing in everyones head

  • Slim Rhyno
    Slim Rhyno 6 months ago

    This video was so well done! Thank you for making and sharing it!

  • Adam Montserrat
    Adam Montserrat 4 months ago +4

    If this is becomes a prequel. I could only imagine the amount of drama and politics. It'd be an Emmy material.

  • Spencer
    Spencer 6 months ago +1

    Your videos and overall dialogue is sensible, impressive and entertaining. I hope you never stop with your videos. You have charisma my man! Keep it coming... I will never stop listening

  • Zantetsuken’s Dao
    Zantetsuken’s Dao Year ago +1

    When Brynden said he had a brother he loved, a brother he hated, and a woman he desired, I found it odd that he didn't say sister when referring to Shiera Seastar and it's also in past-tense like he was over it. Pretty weird that he didn't have a kid with her if they loved each other that much. Maybe there might be more drama between the four of them like if Daemon was also inserted into the love triangle, Brynden would have a reason as to why he killed the brother that he loved after possibly finding out he had an affair with his woman Shiera. There might be an undisclosed Blackfyre bloodline if Shiera had a kid as well. Even though Brynden said that when you pardon rebels, you only plant the seeds of the next rebellion but spared the offspring of his lover and brother, possibly because the child was a female and could not lay claim to the throne or due to some lingering attachment or uncertainty of her origin. Maybe the kid, who shares a name that closely resembles her mother Shiera, was actually Serra Targaryen, wife of Illyrio and mother of the young griff, Aegon Targaryen. It would be poetic irony as to why Brynden would hate the Blackfyre bloodline so much and maybe explain as to why he wanted to raise Bran as his successor if he never had any true heirs from his bloodline.

  • Alexis LK
    Alexis LK 5 months ago +3

    That, sir, is the most understandable and clear video about the Blackfyre Rebellions I've seen, compare to other ones on Clip-Share that are very theoric and not precise at all
    And the Blackfyre era is absolutely amazing, they should do series on it, after House of the Dragon because it's an even more interesting period, with less dragons but more plots and battles, that are way more interesting to me. And come one, Brynden Rivers only by himself is already worth a TV series, his life is just a whole show just by itself and he had the most incredible journey in the history of Westeros I believe, probably in the top 3 most powerfuls "humans" in the history of this universe, with all his skills, his knowledge and longevity, and most people don't even know this character, what a shame.
    Please HBO, make a Blackfyre sequel.

  • Ayom560
    Ayom560 Year ago +1

    Something that bugs me about the king bran ideas is he can actually have children unless someone cut his jewels off. Being paralyzed doesn't remove any ability for children can just make it more difficult

  • Thea Bradford
    Thea Bradford 10 months ago +4

    I think Illyrio fed into Viserys’ delusions of grandeur to make Young Griff look like a more desirable option as king… I am just confused as to why he gave Danaerys the dragon eggs and all that 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • Tom Francis
    Tom Francis Year ago +2880

    That virgin vs chad format had me rolling with laughter

    • k g
      k g 5 months ago

      oh rly cuz it had me rolling my eyes and cringing. those chad memes are garbageeee for insecure baby boys

    • Faisal kamal
      Faisal kamal 7 months ago +4

      @Ren he was a beta male and Daemon was on the sigma male grindset

    • Ren
      Ren Year ago +14

      “He liked to read books and listen to women.”

    • Jorge Chávez
      Jorge Chávez Year ago +5

      lmao

    • Sára Němcová
      Sára Němcová Year ago +25

      The funniest part about is that is SO on point.

  • Aaron Sanderson
    Aaron Sanderson Year ago +4

    Re: Dany's reaction to "Aegon". I've figured she was going to burn him like that as soon as the Golden Company showed up in season 8. And suspect that the common people of King's Landing embracing him is the motivation for burning the city. (I also suspect that Ceresi is locked down in the Red Keep under siege by the GC so that while the reasoning isn't the same as in the show that the GC and the city both burn)

  • Despain
    Despain 5 months ago +5

    We really needed another 5-6 seasons of Game of Thrones. The entire Young Griff plotline is amazing.

  • sora roxas
    sora roxas Year ago +12

    No wonder george is having a hard time ending his books. Like every theory, every plot is important. How is he gonna wrap everything up?

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas 6 months ago +3

      Being honest, I don't blame him for taking an eternity to finish the last 2 books!

  • D T
    D T Year ago

    This is absolutely fantastic. Awesome work!!!

  • Striker
    Striker 3 months ago +2

    The whole situation with Danny, Aegon and Jon raises the perfect succession crisis to poke fun at how bloody stupid monarchy is and proves Varys point of power resides where men think it resides, and everyone who argues irl for any character because they are the rightful heir is missing the whole bloody point. It’s being raised in house of the dragon also. Who should rule, the kings only surviving child, his daughter. Should it pass over her to the kings oldest sons son. If the female line is to be considered then who has first dibs Griff or Danny. Should the marriage annulment put Jon on the throne, which goes back to the start of the blackfyre crisis. Bastard pretenders ancient bloodlines and claims. Real answer, who tf cares. They are all children less than 20 years old who’ve never spent a day in the capital or in the heart lands of the kingdom learning the culture and society. It also applies to the succession of the lord of winterfell with Lyanna versus Neds children and blahdee blah. Jon’s “I dun want it” is like the only morally sensible and not selfish thing to do. Only just resolution that involves the least incest if Aegon is a blackfyre, marry Danny, combine your forces. They’ve both been raised by Illyrio and it’s honestly the only plan that makes sense as to why he’d keep Danny alive if he has Griff.

  • Ahmed Samir
    Ahmed Samir 3 months ago +2

    Bloodraven one of most interesting characters in asiof I hope we know more about him in future books fire and blood or winds of winter

  • Erik Johansson
    Erik Johansson 3 months ago

    Bloodraven's idea of "sacrificing honor to save the realm" remembered me of Jaime, when he stabbed Aerys through the back, killing the king he swore to protect, to save the city, throwing his honor in the mud in the process.

  • Michal Soukup
    Michal Soukup 2 months ago +2

    "No more pious than a kings needs to be" is a sick monicker or compliment to earn though.

  • Gallowglass
    Gallowglass Year ago +1328

    “This was 20 years after the first rebellion and these guys were still fighting over who got to root their sister” what a phrase lmao.

  • Charlotte
    Charlotte 3 months ago +2

    I wonder why Illyrio would be so good to Dany if it’s only for his ‘son’ to fight her later. Maybe he thought she wouldn’t make it? Or maybe it’s just good old-fashioned asoiaf betrayal.

  • MegaKnight2012
    MegaKnight2012 9 months ago +1

    It would make too much sense if Serra, and possibly Viserys, are descended through the female Blackfyre line through Bittersteel. Bittersteel desired his sister Shiera (who bears a similar name to Serra, maybe Quaithe/Shiera was influential in Viserys and Serra's early life?), but Bittersteel eventually married his niece, a daughter of Daemon Blackfyre. So there's the female line of Daemon's combined with Bittersteel, the Golden Company's founder and another Targaryen Great Bastard who was in line for the Iron Throne.

  • PabloNathanael92
    PabloNathanael92 Year ago +10

    I've been rooting for Young Griff since he first appeared.

    • Pedro Lucas
      Pedro Lucas 4 months ago +1

      Let's hope he won't end up like Daeron I and Robb...

  • George E
    George E Year ago

    love these vids, the books are too dense and verbose for me to enjoy, but this format makes all of the interesting detail more digestable

  • Nimble D. Crabb
    Nimble D. Crabb Year ago +1285

    Daenerys is gonna make a mess of things isn't she? Slaying aegon is gonna slay more than just one lie, especially the ones she's been telling herself about her own house's role in this story.

    • G filmer
      G filmer 4 months ago

      @Dillon Martin That would be interesting. Better than what we got in the show.

    • Dillon Martin
      Dillon Martin 4 months ago

      @G filmer I believe she will die in the long night as well but I believe she’ll die in childbirth like her mother before her. She will then reunite with Drogo but continue her line. The witch’s prophecy from book one basically.

    • cuacho
      cuacho 6 months ago

      @Nimble D. Crabb she always wanted to go home .her real home is Dragonstone

    • Nimble D. Crabb
      Nimble D. Crabb 6 months ago

      @cuacho I hope so, but I fear she won't accept that.

    • cuacho
      cuacho 6 months ago +1

      fact is if dany dies in the story slavers will ruin the cities and innocent ppl's lives again .she has done more noble things that should not be undone . ultimate ending should ben dany keeping the secret about griff's true identity and leaving to Dragonstone cuz she wants her children to be free .KL is not a good place for dragons

  • Diego Andrade
    Diego Andrade Month ago +2

    Aegon is likely a descendant of Bittersteel and Calla. Daemon married his daughter off to Bittersteel and Bittersteel bore the sword after Daemon died. It’s likely he had a kid and passed it down to him.

  • James Galligan
    James Galligan 9 months ago +1

    This was a great reminder of how much better the books are, how much more rich and compelling the story is told, then the rushed final seasons of the show.

  • Master Roshi
    Master Roshi Year ago +4

    Great work as always. Could you please tell me what software you use for creating and editing your videos? Would really help me a lot, Thank you.

    • Master Roshi
      Master Roshi Year ago +2

      @Alt Shift X Wow, I didnt expect you to reply. Thank you, you kind Soul :D

    • Alt Shift X
      Alt Shift X  Year ago +5

      Adobe After Effects!

  • peyj
    peyj 10 months ago

    im in the middle of reading asos and struggling for motivation to read more due to a lot of the chapters being very similar to scenes in the show, but after this video i fell a huge boost in my drive to keep reading and reaching adwd and the prequel books maybe i'll finish all of them before twow. actually no. i'll definitely will finish before then. ill aim for the house of dragons release to finish them