Crazy Poker Fight! Cocky American Accuses Italian Pro of Robbery!

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You need to be certain if you think someone didn’t ante. If you suspect cheating then strong suspicion should warrant an investigation. It’s like a hand I watched where an Asian guy went all in and the guy deciding to act said I’ll show you a card if you show me. The Asian guy said I might show you but he was bluffing and all in so he had no benefit from showing the guy debating his turn a card. He obviously is never going to show him a card and the guy waiting to act turns his cards over and then gets very upset that the all in refused to show any cards. He said, “I said I might show”. He didn’t speak English well and he was forced to show which made it an easy call as he sees the bluff. Was a disturbing decision by the floor man and absolutely gross from the accuser because once he saw the hand he knew that the guy would never have shown but he threw such a fit that they sided with him. Poker players can be the biggest children I’ve ever seen

They literally showed the replay and he did ante So the accusation was totally wrong

I disagree about being removed but do believe he should have had to sit out 5 minutes and then if anything but an apology is said then he gets another penalty. To keep saying I don’t know for sure was prettty bad. I knew right when he said that he was wrong

He said he saw him put it out.

😂😂

Lol, underrated comment

@abysmalvoid How is calling the floorman letting someone getting away with it? Just makes sure i think it does not get to personal.

@abysmalvoid NOPE, you report to the floorman, and you never disrupt a hand like this

@dopewars ZH Think about what you are saying. You are saying never accuse someone of cheating unless you are absolutely sure. This is how cheaters propser. You have to call it out and if you're wrong then you're wrong. Better safe than sorry. Better to be wrong and clear up the facts than let potential cheaters get away with cheating.

Of course you disrupt a hand if you think cheating just took place. The most wrong thing in this video, and it's not even close, is threatening serious physical violence because your feelings were hurt.

We needed another player to step in and start sweeping the cheese from under Lisandro's chair

Sal, Pauly take care of it…

The video hasn’t started because of ads and I was thinking of Tony soprano and boom your comment is top comment. You’re a legend.

Definitely

@Rob DeMartin what kind of slavs are these?

Be my backer

He's nothing more than an angry random in this video.

I think it would have lead to
Dude losing his head if this wasn’t so publicized. He had a lot of protection. He hid behind the floor guy

@Martin Köpberg lol no, it isn't a crime to threaten to punch someone. Don't be soft.

I want to say this to him every time I see him

I think when you threaten to batter someone because you don't like how a game of poker went, then you are the one making a fool of yourself. Difficult to top that. We should be praising Friedman for highlighting what he thought was a discrepancy.

yeah but hes a jew and you cant criticise jews

Lol American

He was a Pos but also an incredibly talented player. Simply one of the best back in the day

A guy twice his size threatens serious physical violence and you're calling him the bully? I get that he is unlikeable but that's a ludicrous statement. Man the comments here are completely crazy.

Prahlad isnt a bully, he runs scared easy.

@salty dog Lol I don't even come from the same country as you guys, but it's so obvious that the flustered and deluded one in this exchange is, without a doubt, you

@91 vanced you called it.

nobody will ever be as good as Lon and Norm.. Gabe and AJ were great but it didn't feel as natural.. Lon and Chad were flawless

Nobody can top Gabe kaplan

@xxCxx Gabe is better. AJ adds nothing

Friedman wouldn’t do Tony like that.

This is one of the best comments I’ve seen

Tony G would have cut him up with words and made him eat every word and it would be great entertainment for all of us and not for prahlad.

@peter nagy he was also an MEP, earning some more money for doing absolutely nothing.

@peter nagy bring the russians on

The peak of the wsop was 2004-2006 imo

Somebody find me a backer

Exactly! And I am from South America. This era was broadcasted everywhere!

@MukD Thank you :-)

@Arran Vid Game Theory Optimal

@Ben What is GTO?

And it's another different way of being enjoyable and fun.

Everything is a solver now.

@Nick Raad the other player is lucky that is all he got

@abysmalvoid He did call an official, who did nothing. The floor man should have remained within earshot and immediately stepped in when Friedman continued. He didn't, so Lisandro took it upon himself.

He was, that's not how you handle these situations. Call one of the officials over. The only way his behaviour could have been worse is if he actually hit Friedman.

@xenaguy01 not very smart are you..............................................

@hotdog This is long over. I've given my views, and you yours. I'm not discussing this any more.

Lol yeah hellmuth what a soulful guy.

Before Instagram, TikTok,. 2006, my early to mid-20's w/ no job living at my mom's trying to make money playing poker lol. Those were the days! I still play from time to time and cash out decent, but have lost more than I've made. Like tenfold. Miss PartyPoker and PokerStars for US players.

People who play poker without testosterone. It's gambling

@Elephant Grass huh? Lol

This guy needs "several years" to come up with this comment 😂🤣

@Moonwired Not exactly , the film will show him placing the bet .

He was right tho, there WAS a missing chip, and it wasn’t infront of Lisandro.

The real question is who robbed Lisandro of his eyebrows??

Imagine what would of come of this if Friedman had said that to someone like Phil Hellmuth, Tony G., Mike Matusow, heaven forbid Doyle Brunson. Friedman wasn’t wrong in questioning Lissandro if he thought that he didn’t ante he was wrong in directly accusing Lissandro multiple times and not dealing directly right away with officials. It’s only when Lissandro after even politely telling him not to accuse him of robbing the pot again that when he finally told the kid he’d kick the shit out of him that Friedman panicked like a bitch. Guaranteed Lissandro would have taken this kid outside after day was done if he hadn’t stopped & kid knew it.

@Charlie Andor there's a limit for that

@Charlie Andor Og

@g Hang out with poker players more and you will become a lot more cynical

@Charlie Andor I highly doubt anyone would cause such a scene just to try and get a sort of advantage over their opponent.

@dopewars ZH It's a poker game. He is trying to get into Lisandro's head

@I3AcKP4cK Oh, I thought it was another player saying that lol, my bad.

It's no wonder why the dealer was asking them to please drop it

Even in my city, when all the players are high skilled and known by everyone on the table and in the casino, the dealers just enjoy the game and dont think anyone of those players with thousands of hours on the tables would make any kind of mistake...

Yes, but dealers are commonly incompetent.

@Arran Vid Blinds are not antes... And Lissandro was on the button...

@Brooks In no-limits Texas Hold'em Poker, you have the big blind and the small blind. Both have to put their chips in before the game starts. The small blind puts half of the big blind. I don't know whether Lissandro was big blind or small blind, but he was one of those two therefore he was forced to put a certain amounts of chips in. He did put the right amount in, as shown by the camera, but the other player, Prahlad, accused Lissandro of not putting the chips in...which would be cheating. Prahlad was wrong.

@DMac740 the clue that it's needling is the way he kept it going. And going. If it was about the chip he would have made his comment and that would have been that. Repeating it thirty times didn't serve any legitimate purpose in relation to the accusation. But once he saw Lisandro reacting the way he did notice how he got quieter and calmer about it and how he structured his comments to keep at him every few moments with timed pauses. Then saying he didn't trust him. That he "knows how it is". Then how he told the floor that he was threatened, like an innocent child who couldn't understand why. His agenda is very clear. And it wasn't his place to do any of that and he knows it. He's not the ante police. AND he was wrong. There was no basis fire and of it. I think he knew he was making it up. But most of all, playing poker professionally, I see this kind of routine often enough to recognize it. His tone of voice was designed and intended to annoy the guy. And when he was told what was on the video he didn't apologize. He's just kept insinuating the guy was untrustworthy and that even if he hadn't done it this time it didn't really prove anything. He didn't say those words but it was in his tone. There are guys who do this kind of thing constantly in one way or another. Not this accusation specifically but the same attempt to upset someone, whatever it takes. There's no mistaking what this was if you see it often enough.

@Commenter It didn't seem like it looked more like he honestly thought he got over on them.

@DMac740 they did rewind. And it wasn't about chips or cheating. It's called needling. It's extremely common.

It's hilarious listening to all the internet tough guys on here who think they're characters in some old western.

@Christopher Suswal LOL, you'd throw down yourself in tears!

Time to be civilized, folks.

lol welcome to Commerce Casino in LA

100% agree!!! And the way Friedman cried to the organizers about did you hear what he said to me. It was so pathetic. You can’t make an accusation like that then get offended when the man stands his ground

It's an honest mistake. Those guys have been playing 12-hour days for 5-6 days straight, its easy for have a lapse like that.

@dezignateddriva Unfortunately some players get away with petty moves like "forgetting" to post ante or making short-changed splash calls for way too long Not because they are so slick or not being picked up on, but because of "etiquette". Cheating is not the worst breach of poker etiquette. Accusing someone of cheating is. It's the gravest of insults. Even a vague suggestion quickly escalates into a real situation. As this clip shows.
So even if these moves get noticed many players will still be reluctant to point them out.

@dezignateddriva because skipping out on 10% of a BB once per table or once every 10 orbits would be so profitable and worth the hassle

@Daan Demeyer I agree. I think it is fine to ask someone or even the floormanager. But to just acuse someone without being 100% sure is so bad...

@Daan Demeyer And if you really aren't sure you can ask the floor to check the cameras. Accusing Lisandro repeatedly and saying "I don't trust you" is WAY out of line.

Yea when most players were bad. Now there’s a lot of good players

So you condoning stealing no matter what, you must be Caucasian

Classless and shld of been penalized after they checked the play back

@Dan Ender some tournaments an ante will be used to speed up the action. they still have blinds too

It is for a first time I am watching Texas Hold'Em poker played with antes... Every time before I have always watched and played Texas Hold'Em poker with the blinds.

BB ante solves this nicely, and speeds up collecting it.

Definitely, it worked too, he took him down with 9 duece unsuited after the flop.

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Real mafia vibes with that threat. Teeth removal and decapitation.

It’s mind blowing how you can assume you know he’s doing this on purpose with absolutely no evidence.

@Don Pablo Some people will do anything to get under a player's skin.

@dennis beckham Soon he's a legend at the bottom of the sea also :P

It’s mind blowing there are 60 people that thought this guy was doing this on purpose. You dont randomly accuse someone of cheating / stealing as an angle. Even Prahlad

Of course he's not

You heard wrong

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You missed the part just prior to that when Lisandro first approached the Friedman and the floorman when he said something like "If you keep (something inaudible) buddy (more inaudible) Right? I'll take your teeth out!"

@Real Talk he’s a lib. Don’t mind him. Mean words are violence to him

I agree with anibaldk

You don't need proof to accuse someone of something. Just look at college campuses.
Can you imagine what the world would look like if choosing violence was an option because someone said something you didn't like? Do you even realize the implications of what you're saying?

Yes

@Riggs187 ok so you’re just lying to make him look worse? Got it

@DoctorChained Yes I've seen a million times. You don't need to explain it.

@Riggs187 Did you not watch the video? He literally said call before the countdown finished and the floor ruled it a dead hand. He had no say in the ruling.

@DoctorChained What ever you say, dude..

You're just watching bits of the whole table tourney

#Metoo

🤣🤣🤣

I vividly remember him and Jamie Gold being the biggest douches in that main event. It wasn't my favorite Main Event to watch, never seen someone get the run of cards Gold got.

You can be both.

He is Aussie with Italian heritage.

@Landau Yeah he looks kind of Italian but think of Tony G. I don't think anyone could guess where he's from because he's very unique all round.

You can tell by looking at him he's Italian, spitting image of Tony Soprano

he is aussie living in Italy

Phil Hellmuth got close to 4 in 1993. 3 bracelets and a 2nd place finish.

Yeah I won 4 in 2023 you just haven’t seen it yet, my time machine told me.. but I die right after otw home calling my mom excited to tell my family and swerve off the road because their was a woodpecker in the road and I drown in one inch of damp grass because the car flipped over on me.. they gave the wings to my ex girlfriend whom I was about to break up with the next day because I caught her cheating with one of the well know pros in his hotel sweet… so I haunted her beyond the grave and eventually after years of me doing that she committed her self in a psych ward where she has been since then.

Pretty sure Ivey won three in one year too

Yep, WSOP player of the year as I remember.

@Dancindazed yeah I think 3 is the record, the Grinder won 3 too when he won the player of the year

Bet

Save the drama foe yoo mamma.

@Andy Smith big bling ante makes the game move faster. It’s more simple. Regular antes you can play like half the hands per hour compared to bb ante.

I believe it was just popularity and effenciency of the BB Ante, but I could also see this really reinforcing the push for BBA. I never liked regular antes: consolidated antes are SO much better, saves time and headaches.

@Mazinger Z huh ? I see y u can’t satisfy a woman

@Lush1017 That's why your home has no mirrors. BOOM, all in gagagagagagaga!!

@Lush1017 and yet you took the time out to read and comment. Look at you

no he is not

try 15