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Can You Complete the Pokedex Only Using Surprise Trade?
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How much of the Scarlet and Violet Pokedex can you complete ONLY by using Surprise Trade?
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It honestly feels like people now are being a lot more generous in surprise trades. It might be because it’s becoming easier to get shinies, which is in no way a bad thing, but I’ve noticed more non hacked shiny Pokémon, and just really good late game Pokémon being traded in this generation than in previous generations. It’s really nice to see people helping strangers out with filling out the Pokédex, even if it’s just because they have extras. I remember when people would just release the extra Pokémon and it always made younger me feel a little sad.
I do a lot of 5 and 6 star raids and wonder trade the results.
though the shiny sellers played in pokemon sword and shield,your not wrong
@tobiasplayz thx
Bro that's insane
Bro back in gen three somebody surprise traded me a leve 73 yveltal and I gave them a common Pokémon
Have to say, as an older viewer, I am absolutely here for Mikey’s slow descent into a Markiplier-style madness. 10/10, keep it up dude.
This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
Same thing here
Lol
Me too
I am a older viewer to being there since the beginning of the pokemon news and then not really watching after like a year of there not being any pokemon news and I definitely like new Mikey more, no offense old Mikey.
I like how people are being nice in surprise trades now. Especially after the greninja raid, legit non-hacked 6 IV hidden ability Froakies are flying all over the place.
@Henry Drozda Simply owning them? From what I've gathered, no. But if you decide to use them in competitive, then there's a problem. If you ever feel like your account will be threatened by owning one though, then you can always simply release the pokemon.
@Smudged Can you get banned for having hacked pokemon because I got surprised traded a 6IV shiny greninja, hisuian zoroark, and charizard all with website names
@Smudged Interesting. Thanks for the info m8.
@H D Usually hacks are pretty obvious. 6IV shiny hidden ability rare pokemon with a website name are commonplace with hacked pokemon. There are some more subtle ones, but generally hacked pokemon look too good to be true. As for "invalid" I've actually been capitalizing off of a hacked Ditto that was surprise traded to me. All of the offspring have been legitimate with my name and ID on it, so you should be fine.
@Smudged how do you tell if a Pokémon is hacked? And if you breed with them does it make ur Pokémon "invalid"?
I enjoyed this video. I saw the title and was like "Well Obviously the answer is yes." And then Mikey said that he didn't want to waste hours upon hours of his life randomly trading and I just laughed because yeah, that is EXACTLY how I wasted a summer when I got OmegaRuby to complete the dex. I can imagine completing the paldean dex is going to be time consuming this way.
@Yuki Kitsune For some reason, I can't connect to the internet with my DS, so...sad, but that's pretty cool to know!
@Damien Earl some minor differences. like you can't do anything while waiting for your trade which is why it took me a whole summer to complete the dex. However because I do not care about whether or not the pokemon I get are hacked or not, I just found a twitch account that trades out hacks and you can try and match up with them to get what you want.
@Yuki Kitsune Welp, if it has the same mechanics, I know what I'm doing next summer!
@Damien Earl yes. Although I think it was called wonder trade
...Omega Ruby has surprise trades?
This has propably been said before, but Traumato is actually just german for Drowzee. "Traum" is german for "dream", so thats probably why it is namend that way.
The word for dream is part of the English word for trauma. There seems like there’s a connection there but maybe I’m tripping.
Dimension 20 is a definite win, Mikey seems like he’d definitely be a Brennan fan
Why do I feel like that haunter was from a person who thought they would get it back as a gengar but didn’t realise they were on surprise trade not a link trade.
@Smudged back in Gen 6, a pair of friends of mine, who happen to be cousins btw, made a Wonder Trade with each other
THEY WERE IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER
Meanwhile I traded a Froakie away in Surprise trades and she somehow got traded back to me just a few trades later
@AVeryTallMidget I lost a slowking to one of them so it’s the luck of the draw
@J Murray they do. i helped someone with dex completion by trading back and forth my Gholdengo, which btw, i managed to get like ~800 Coins by the time i did all 3 paths and was about to jump into Area Zero and i wasn't even trying
Or they just hate shiny gengar which is same
When referring to the "johtoian" Wooper or any Pokemon form that isn't the regional variant, we should be saying the "National Form"
Cause if you catch one in SInnoh, its not exactly Johtonian - it has nothing to do with Johto, but it is in that form nationally except for specific regions, which have the other form
@Gengarzilla look i just want an official thing to call these og forms
Nobody says that. The idea of "National" lost all weight when this series moved beyond Japanese regions. That's the whole reason why it was called the National Pokédex, you know.
Noted
If I hear "kantonian tauros" one more time Imma be mad
The second you mentioned Dimension 20 I got like so excited! Always have that on in the background, it's a great show.
I'm glad people are trading more diverse and dificult to get pokemon. I usually catch a bunch of area zero mons to both train my mons and surprise trade the duplicate version exclusives. Hopefully it makes someone's day
I once caught a box full of Iron Hands, picked out the best one to train, and sent out the rest to people. I hope it helped someone complete their dex. The only paradox I ever got, that I couldn't catch myself was Sandy Shocks. The rest, I all had to ask for, to complete my dex...
I actually did a wonder trade bingo with a friend today, and to both our surprise neither of us ended up with a Paradox Mon, since they seem to be fairly common based on similar vids I've seen here. I did end up picking up a Website Shiny, though... And my friend and I ended up matching for a trade, which was hilarious given the odds of that happening.
Man I really wish Shiny Gengar and the rest of its evo line looked like it's mega. The white looks great on it
I did a ton of surprise trades recently trying to get the starters, it was easier to get almost all the scarlet version exclusives than to use the link codes.
I feel like only using Wonder/Surprise Trade would take an eternity in pretty much any game. I tried this in ORAS and I still haven't completed it to this day.
@Sheridan Wolf nice
I got a lot of them in my first Sword play through just by surprise trade. Managed to get quite a few Shield exclusives with that
@Dragon 5Accent me either i only did it for quaixly
@Dragon 5Accent i completed it without wondetrades my last pokemon was slowking
This was actually really fun and fascinating as I had a similar experience. I wanted to start my playthrough with a shiny Sprigatito and bred with a Lechonk, surprise trading the breedjects. I got so many new 'mons, including a foreign Ditto, and got ~100 dex entries in 162 trades. Also, with the special raid pokemon, if you're like me and suck at doing raids, just wait a few hours after the raid starts and do some trades. I got 5 Froakie the day the Greninja raid started!
Dimension 20 is one of my favorite things to watch in general but especially when grinding in games so I'm so glad to hear you also enjoy it!
If Mikey got a penny for every shiny tarontulas he got... he'd only have 2 pennies but it's kind of weird that it happened twice
You can't get auspicious armor in Violet, true. But you CAN get armarouge in Tera Raids so... you could still get one.
This guy's not only a poketuber but a pokescientist, a realistic one
The melodrama on this channel is what I keep coming back for.
Melodramatic Mikey gives me life.
For levelling up, use a high pevel mon (if someone sends a paradox, it'll be around 60) for 3 and 4 star raids for candies.
I would love to see this as a challenge to see how many trade to actually complete it, or get down to just the version and maybe shrine legendaries left. It would probably take a ridiculous amount of time though.
It's funny how he reads Traumato and goes like "yeah sum's up the BS I've had with it." While the "Traum" part actually means dream in German. 🤣
So I recently decided to try and beat scarlet only using surprise trade and as soon as I do, pm7 makes a video on that. Now Im half way through and Im wondering "I wonder how long it would take me to complete the pokedex this way" and then heres this video😂
Funnily enough I was debating on trying to make as much of a living dex through Wonder Trade as possible. Makes sense that it would take a LONG time and a LOT of trades, especially as you complete more of it
this is a prime example of mikey's creativity and managiing to suprise us
@Julia Taunton-Clark 🤓
*Managing
literally
Yea dang this must take a while tho
Your right
Great video! This brought back a lot of memories. I did something similar to this back in Pokemon X, where I traded away my breeding leftovers to try and get a living dex of unique trainer numbers (minus legendaries of course). I forget how far I got, maybe a little over halfway, before I got bored with it (and frustrated from getting a bajillion Zubats and Bunnebys).
I've been able to fill most of my Violet Pokedex by trades including the few that are Scarlet exclusives. There's still a bit more I need for completion but I'll continue to trade including a bunch of late stage pokemon to help others out.
I tend to surprise trade away my extra shiny Pokémon that i already have so pretty cool that it seems like you got a legit one from somebody else during this process!
Dimension 20 while surprise trading has literally been my entire vibe these past few weeks
been doing a bit of surprise trading myself to help with my dex, and i do feel like people are a lot more generous with their trades than in previous gens. i know i've been trying to trade out version exclusives from my game, including paradox pokemon, the fire tauros, armarouge, and of course some starters! and i've only received one hacked shiny so far, which i promptly released lol
One cannot describe the excitement I felt at learning you're getting into Dimension 20 as someone who's been watching it for years. I hope you enjoy it!
What is that? And are there other groups?
Never more has been so entertaining, happy everyone else is liking it.
Literally the best show on the internet. Newest season is so good.
Fun fact: if you got a pokémon via surprise trade it as a really small change of having the once in a lifetime mark
during holidays, i've noticed a lot of legitimate shinies that people are giving away and it's honestly so sweet. people are a lot nicer with shinies these days. (i've also got accidentally sent shinies and it makes me feel bad)
I’d like to think that Peter was doing a challenge where if he failed he had to surprise trade shinies
Getting a shiny haunter that evolves into gengar is ultimate luck. I'd actually cry.
I was so darn hyped when I got full odd sandy shocks. 1st I tought it was just a shadow going over it so almost missed it 😅
If I had a nickel for every shiny tarountula mandjtv found, I'd have two nickels wich isn't alot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Came here to comment this lol
@Awesome Yes it is I. Hello brother!
@DukeDarkshadow Omg you got 3 of them! Atleast they have a good shiny.
The first three full odds shinies I found during my playthrough all happened to be Maschiffs. The next two after that were back to back Litleos within barely ten minutes of each other.
Man feeling kinda cool that I got my full odds shiny before him
It was a mareep- I was trying to find a female eevee for breeding- ampharos’s shiny is so cool
Mikey saying he got into Dimension 20 made me ridiculously happy, not gonna lie 😂
Congrats on the ten shinies you're so lucky.
Seeing as you got into D20, I would LOVE to see Mikey and some other Poketubers run a D&D or Pathfinder campaign
Good job Mikey, you got into watching dimension 20 and I love pretty much all there seasons. Your in for a trip with them.
I feel like jack is gonna get so jealous bc you got the shiny ditto
@Death 2519 He should just trade over the hacked Ditto without any context.
@Tallyn Nyntyg?
@Death 2519 Then trade it over.
@Munchlax fan#1 you’re the one reading the comments 😂
Spoiler alert
Okay hear me out , now we need someone to make a pokerap using him saying all these names
Thank you for your patronage. Now I am going to go surprise trade for a bit to get some of the Scarlett Pokemon that I cannot get. Plus the starters!
I tried this last night after watching this video for fun and honestly I was quite surprised on what I actually got
Thank you Mikey I’m learning a lot more of Pokémon just watching your video’s it makes me even more excited to continue playing Pokémon
I’m honestly surprised there weren’t any Froakie’s being traded due to the Greninja event
I’m actually surprised that the website trades have already been started. I didn’t think it would happen for a while. At least the Haunter/Gengar seems legit. Also congrats on the two shiny full odds tarountula.
@Agent Omega thank you for helping me :)
@mirage I don’t know much about them myself, but I’ll do my best to explain. “Website or hacked shinies” to my understanding are Pokémon that come from websites that place them into the games through outside means such as modded consoles or computers. They often have perfect IV’s and natures and tend to be named a specific nickname after the website. Although they may not always be nicknamed that. Sometimes they’re easy to spot. Other times, they’re a lot better hidden. The reason these are bad are they were put into the game illegitimately and can sometimes be considered illegal. (Not like breaking the law illegal, but illegal in terms of competitive battling.) They are also considered illegal if they are shinies that cannot be normally obtained like the GEN 9 legends since those are shiny-locked in-game.
You seem knowledgeable on the subject. What is so bad about a "website" shiny. And what is a "hacked shiny"?
You should have taken away the number of trade evolutions in the Pokédex from the number of trials, since getting a trade evolution Pokémon means you get 2 dex entries.
I'm going to try this in my copy of Scarlet that I haven't started yet. Will update this with the results.
Sometimes I actually mass breed starters/trade evos/exclusives and surprise trade them to people in case they don’t have people to play with and/or don’t use Reddit or something to find them (also things like scorbunny and charmander in case people missed those events) just because I’ve been in their shoes just hoping and praying lol.
I have really been enjoy doing surprise trades and had decided to do this myself but I think that I will have to include trades in the end to get it done.
I have done round 200 trades and have completed round 160. I'm trading out doubles and will have to do evolutions.
Hyped to hear Mikey likes dimension 20, I would love to see some DND content on MandJTV plays
Dimension 20 is incredible, glad to see more people talking about it!
@Sean A. And hyper Christian!
Hello there
I agree
D20 is data driven
The badges only count for the level of Pokemon you catch if you level a Pokemon to level 64 it will still listen to you
I've been debating when to start Surprise trading, since you need to pay to do it. I think there's a free trial so I may try to squeeze all my trades in there.
Honestly, if you recorded every trade, you could use your data to extrapolate and predict the number of trades it would have taken you to actually complete the Pokédex, both including and excluding breeding/evolving!
Arboliva could have also been from a Tera Raid. I got my Arboliva with a fire tera type from a tera raid haha. That was after getting both it's previous evo's from surprise trade.
Was not expecting a reference to Dimension 20 here- I’m a huge fan of it!
It's like the CandyEvie videos where she surprise trades a thousand Magnemites! Now that you've had a taste, I'd love to see you react to one of those videos of hers
Honestly, I love it when you present stats on your video. 😊
I’m honestly amazed this is your first full odds shiny in SV. I’ve been just drowning in them without even looking for them. Is John draining your shiny luck or something? Because his shiny luck is insane!
AbsolBlogsPokemon’s FULL National Dex wondertrade challenge was streamed and he was helped by his viewers. You should try to do this with some of your viewers too :)
The fact you didn't get 20 froakies is the most shocking thing to me. I got five in a row just trading them back and forth before I got anything that wasn't froakie
Nice to see you playing the better version of the two games.
I love how he caught a lechonk and turned that into a tinkaton
First time playing the game on launch day I found a shiny Tarountula as my first wild Pokemon I caught on Poco Path.
I also love dimension 20! I haven't watched the new season because it's not for me but I adored the Harry Potter riff and the one in space
it's always going to be impossible to complete 100% of the pokedex but at least you got quite far
I actually have gotten a Goldengo from a surprise trade. I was very surprised.
A timed version of this, or BINGO style, would work GREAT as a video for a John Michael cup video! Even just a compare who has more at the end would be good too!
i love how mikey can make up something ridiculous and still succeed
Correction it’s usually random like how many charmanders he got
Ikr
Anyone else missing the TEAM SKY videos, can't wait to see one for the Paldea region.
I'm glad to see you get a full odds shiny, since I also got one, a Venonat that I found after getting demolished by the Grass gym leader.
Bidoof dod has blessed you. Hail yeah.
Mikey mentioning Dimension 20 just made me so hype for absolutely no reason
i used surprise trade to fill out my dex in violet as best i could. by the time i gave up and switched to link trade, i'd gotten every scarlet exclusive excpet for five: Koraidon, Armourouge, Slither Wing, Sandy Shocks, and, of all things, Stunky. Those first four made sense - the box legendary, an evolution that needed a version-exclusive item, and two of the rarer paradox forms, but Stunky?? that was unexpected lmao
Let's all thanks Peter Greffin for giving that legit shiny Haunter
The speech about shiny gods in the 50 days video really made me think “woah this really has Brennan lee mulligan vibes” and thought nothing more of it, now I know you’ve started watching dimension 20 made it make sense!! It’s so cool knowing two of my fav creators/shows somehow intersect!!
Agreed. It's realy fun to watch
Some of Michael's epic rants make me think of Dave Mathew (from the Paper Mario Boss Music argument incident)
@MandJTV Plays Yes he is. He changed the way I DM forever. Which campaign are you watching?
Brennan Lee Mulligan is a genius and I aspire to have his skills
It could be cool to see Mikey play DND at some point
that hacked ditto is actually incredibly valuable for masuda. if it’s the one i think it is it’s 6iv and italian.
That existential crisis section gave off prime BDG unraveled energy and I'm here for it. Great video
I like catching good Pokemon and surprise trading them away on the off chance that they go to someone who needs them for their dex, or just wants one. Fully embracing the "surprise" part of the trade. XD
Love how mikey was first like: how many wonder trades would it take to complete the pokedex?, to: I am having an existential crisis.
Technically every non friend trade that gives you a good thing can be defined as a "surprise"
So yes regardless
Yep. Took far too long to complete the entries for the other game. Took a lot of Eiscue to get the Scarlet exclusives.
I actually started a new save file on scarlet and was just training my pokemon and found a Shiny Oricorio Baile style and I almost had a meldown
I went up into 276 Pokémon in the dex with your method
So useful, I hope people can find this so interesting to fill up the dex
When I was masuda methoding deerling (my friend asked me to out of the options I had) I decided to trade a full box of them. The only interesting thing to happen was when I traded a deerling for a deerling and found I had somehow traded for my own deerling as the ot was me. Freaked me out because I don't know the chances of it happening or if it had ever happened to me before. Also take a shot everytime you read deerling.
I managed to complete a third of the Dex at the start of the game via surprise trade alone when I was trying to get a Charmander
14:02 had me on the floor dying
Same
The “if you think you do, you don’t” is hilarious
You should do the jmc with this idea and you and john get a certain amount of trades and the most trades win, no retrades on dupes and each evo stage is different points eg hoppip is 1 point but jumpluff is 3, lastly shinys worth 2x points.
6:48 my first full odds shiny was shiny skiddo which I evolved into gogoat. This happened exactly a week ago.
i am surprise trading all of the non-shinies I'm getting through breeding trying to finally get my shiny mice and it is seriously helping my pokedex lol
I accidentally found a shiny Flaaffy, didn't realize until I was in battle wanting it for the dex. Thought it was a glitch until it evolved and bam pink Ampharos
I was thinking about this the other day. I might give it a go when Pokemon Home can connect to Scarlet/Violet in case I get something good
My first 2 shinies were Lechonk. My third was me breeding charmanders with the Masuda method and it was like the 6th charmander I hatched and haven't had one since.
my first 2 shinys in scarlet and violet were iron bundle and cetoddle, my third was a shiny slither wing that someone traded me and it seems to be legit (it doesn't have perfect ivs and it has a bad nature) and my fourth was a shiny frookie that I hatched
I got Rotom and then skorupi 30 minutes later then 6 months later alpha chatot, all in PLA
Unfortunately that was my 2nd shiny and my only new shiny. My other 3 are ones I already have
Congrats on the shinies!
Wow. My first full odds shiny was at the start of the game when I just started and it was a shiny tarountula.
My favourite wonder trade in scarlet was a Psysuck named "Blossom :]" I always love ones that are nicknamed
OH MY GOD! MIKEY MENTIONING D20 LITERALLY MADE ME WHIP MY HEAD AROUND! I LOVE DROPOUT AND DIMENSION 20!!! HIGHLY SUGGEST FANTASY HIGH, A COURT OF FEY AND FLOWERS, COFFIN RUN AND NEVERAFTER, ALSO THE SEVEN!!
Also Game changer is amazing. This new season is so funny