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- Published on May 27, 2023 veröffentlicht
- Host Kara Swisher unpacks the Succession series finale, “With Open Eyes,” in a two-part supersized podcast.. In part one, Kara talks with Alexander Skarsgård about why his tech billionaire character, Lukas Matsson, just can’t let Waystar Royco go. Then Kara goes deep with Jeremy Strong to discuss the tragic end of Kendall and what his character really wanted all along. Part two, coming later this week, features an extended conversation with director and executive producer Mark Mylod.
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I can’t believe Succession has finally come to an end. I will miss quality tv
❤😢
Me too, but HBO has a problem writing endings of shows....all of them from Game of Thrones to Trueblood to Succession. Horrible ending just now. Why even do the annointing scene because it lost ALL its power by doing that ending. If ya going to devastate Kendal character why not have him jumping off the roof of the building during the signing and then see the look on Roman and Shiv face when they realize they killed their brother.
@vaskylark that ending was great to me, don’t mistake your opinions as facts.
@vaskylarkthat ending was genius
@vaskylark That would have been the shittiest ending in the universe.
I know a lot of people say Jeremy is pretentious but honestly the earnestness he approaches the character with is incredible. Hearing his thoughts on Kendalls ending though only makes it even more tragic, if he is not drowning literally he certainly is figuratively.
Hes more honest and self aware than most people. Of course they wouldnt understand
I find him really endearing, like yeah he's an actor but that's also how theatre actors often are. Maybe it's overly serious but he seems cool and interesting
@Man on Couch Productions Yeah. A few Method guys are always welcome. I do like how he doesn't even try to distance himself from the Kendall character at some points in this interview, using "I" and "me" to describe KLR's thoughts and actions.
@Andrew James I used to think it was just a funny, Jeremy Strong being Jeremy Strong thing, but I've noticed a few cast members do it too. Even Brian 'I hate method acting' Cox 😂
who says that?? im ready to fight
Jeremy Strong is truly an amazing actor
He is a gifted actor, yet 2024 Awards Season must go to KIERAN CULKIN as he responded best to the writing of the character of Roman Roy, in contrast to JEREMY STRONG retreading the boards as KENDALL ROY.
@anona mouse.p nopeeee, it’s still Jeremy yooo, he’s hard to beat, Jeremy is just impeccable
@Ramar Wint Agreed. Kieran Culkin is excellent but Jeremy has consistently been the standout performer. The only other actor who has rivaled him on the show would be Matthew MacFadyen who somehow simultaneously gave the most entertaining, ridiculous performance AND the most subtle one.
I think it's fair to say they all are well in for a shout. What an incredible season to watch, the performances were outstanding. Sarah Snook for the MVP, amazing
@mysharonaFor my money MM’s is the better performance- he makes the role extraordinarily nuanced and complex and plays totally against his own personality; while JS is in reality not that far from Kendall Roy imho: has a considerable ego, takes himself very seriously, and doesn’t have an obvious sense of humour. (Where he is different is that he - JS - is conspicuously intelligent and well-educated.)
Tom was actually closer to a man Logan could respect, a man who has fought his way up the ranks, not born into wealth.
Mattson, Tom, Logan are all builders and self-made, and came into their own in different ways. Mattson the serious clown, Tom the lapdog cuck, Logan the killer
@Hung Hoang Great observation.
@Hung Hoang to be fair, Mattson wasn't really self made. Mattson just practically fell into riches, he wasn't actually a tech genius, just was given the stuff that made him rich.
@mizertt mizerttexactly
Tom got positions at the company because he was with Shiv. Last time I checked, that isn’t what “self-made” meant.
Jeremy Strong won the Emmy with that finale performance. One of the most complex, horrifying moments of acting I’ve ever seen. Bravo Mr. Stong. RIp KLR.
This was beyond excellent. Astonishingly deep perspective from Jeremy. The guy bled out for us for four seasons. We owe him so much as an audience. Thank you.
Yeah I know he won’t get the Emmy for best actor this time, but he surely deserves it
@Connor Clarkekeiran or Bob. The main reason he couldn't get an emmy for this season:-
1. Since this is last season they want to award keiran because jeremy had already won his first emmy
2. Lot of emmy voters doesn't like method actors publicity.
3. Keiran's culkin campaign for emmy is broader than jeremy
4. I don't like Jeremy's emmy winning speeches because he never gave credit to whole cast or ensemble. He considered himself as a shown runner of succession
@vivek kumar Jeremy slightly edges Kieran to me. Bob doesn’t take it for me respectively. Season 3-5 was his chance, he was off in S6 IMO. Jeremy of course wasn’t on in season 4 either, at least not season 2-3 on. The early episodes Jeremy was actually looking bad and unconvincing, particularly the first episode of the season. His character came alive after election night and he was the 2nd best actor on the screen from episodes 8-10. Of course Sarah Snook is my personal choice for best actor of the season. She also had a rough start to the year, not nailing her accent well enough. (She’s Australian and she seemed rusty in the first few scenes of Ep 1)
@Connor Clarke i also hate that jesse doesn't gave matthew enough screen time this season and just uses tom for the last minute awful twist
@vivek kumar Matthew deserves the best actor consideration. He was impeccable this season and last. So deep
The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, and now Succession joins the pantheon of the best TV series. Bravo!
Hbo and amc
Switch out Mad Men for _Patriot_ and you're onto something....
Don’t forget Ozark dats another genius show thanks to Jason Bateman
@Senpai Jay Ozark is superior to Succession
lol it's not even close to succession ,Ozark is a great show whereas as succession is one of the greatest of all time
Connor got the medals
What medals?
😄 Good one
Mencken might lose lol, he also might lose as well
@Joao Victor logan's medals
lol the medals Logan bought and didn't earn
I've heard Jeremy cite that Jung quote before, "in the absence of love, power fills the vacuum". Sums up the entire series.
It absolutely does. Is tje perfect quote to describe this amazing show.
HBO, huge thank you for this masterpiece.
Thank you for creators, directors, writers, operators, disigners, all filming crew.
Thank you actors, all of you deserves Emmy.
Thank you Nicholas Britell for iconic soundtrack.
Thank you all, who watched and discussed it!
Succession - monument of great show of this century.
I'm so hopeful of Jeremy Strong to have an amazingly exciting acting career ahead, what an incredible talent discovered by the Succession.
Jeremy is so intense. I can tell he still lives Kendall’s pain.
“I’m okay. It’s just a character” via the latest interview with Vanity Fair. He’s moved on
I was laughing so hard when they where messing up Caroline's food and mocking her accent
the cheese licking --LOL
Me too... even I think the happy finale could be a thing during that scene... this is me now 🤡
It's always great when. Kendall, Roman, and Shiv are all together playing nice.
Roman did her voice so good too 😂😂
@Dee I know his wife’s English and they were living here so he’s had some practise…
With all of Kendall's shortcomings, I truly hoped throughout the series he would succeed, he was most worthy. The death of the waiter was a tragic accident, for Shiv to take him out in the end was heartbreaking to watch. Jeremy Strong brought it all the way.
The character of Siobhan sure didn't.
He maimed his own brother to coerce a vote, and was fully prepared to physically attack his pregnant sister. "I'm the eldest boy!" was Ken going mask-off. He vehemently lied to his siblings about the waiter's death with his "I didn't even get into the car" bs. Ken got what he deserved. I rooted for him, but I now have no sympathy for him at all.
@Anthea Cao I feel people are completely missing that! Kendall showed in this episode that he isn't a good person, it's baffling how many people believe he's the true "good" person in the show when he's actually never shown much of being "good" at all. Not to mention, had he won he would've been a complete tyrant. We know this about Kendall, power gets to his head and within a few years he would've been way worse than even Logan was.
@Razz Prince we don’t think he’s a good person I think we just believe he deserves out of all the options possible to be CEO. No one who got the job was a good person either. They’re not supposed to be good
@Anthea Cao logan was worse than ken.
here's the thing, money and power dont see how bad of a person you are.
you don't need to be a good person to be a successful CEO.
I love that Kara continues to remind us she's met very powerful people. It never gets old.
It’s all about Kara 😉
Every 5 or 10 minutes! It’s not about you Kara 🙄
Jesse Armstrong and Mark Mylod are just masters at their craft. We're so lucky to have been here for this incredible moment.
I hope they come up with another series ❤
Man I could listen to Jeremy Strong speak for a decade or more and I’d never get tired of it.
The truth is that Succession definitely established Jeremy Strong as one of the most talented actors in TV history.
The finale is a grower. Loved it at the time, but the more I think and hear about it, I now consider it truly a modern masterpiece of Shakespearean quality.
It sure was an ending to think of a lot. I have to see it again. And again. There's so much in it.
These adult children had two parents who didn't love them, and are incapable of loving anyone. It was a tragic ending.
Roman is immature and maybe he will heal and grow. Shiv is vindictive and nowhere as smart as she thought.
Kendall was smart and the only possible one who could have taken the top spot. I felt for sure he would after he took control at Logan's funeral.
So Ken is dead inside. But hey, they are all rich, they don't need to work anyway.
I could hear Jeremy for hours. He's so elocuent and chill
Great writing! Great actors! Jeremy Strong deserves another Golden Globe for this season.
I agree. Everyone says Culkin and Snook deserve Emmy’s. Na, I say Jeremy Strong deserves another.
I feel like this is the memorial board for Succession. So here I am to say thank you to the writers and directors. Phenomenal storytelling. Inspiring quality. And a tragic but satisfying end - especially with the closing commentary/behind the scenes. Kendall is still my number one boy
One of the greatest episodes of all time. Gonna miss this series so much 😭😭
literally blew my mind
@Braden Lee will not be over it for at least a week
A very cheap feeling ending to an otherwise great show.
@HUTCHSUCKSMUCH well the new wars are won and lost in board rooms. what can you do.
the moment where Tom marks Greg with a sticker is probably the most romantic moment I can remember in the series. It was so, so sweet.
that was genius
I had a huge smile while watching that moment
That was a great moment. This show was all about the details. I remember seeing Karl and Frank putting on their compression stockings for the long Sweden flight. I thought it was all in the details........brilliant.
Do you find marking a human being as your property romantic lmao
@Be afraid it’s not not romantic 🥰
Jeremy Strong's take on Kendall is an absolute pleasure to hear.There is so much thought and depth. I'm going to miss the show, but I'm also going to miss the podcasts! Thank you, Jesse Armstrong and team, it was so remarkable. The last episode was electric.
Briliant shows like this don't come around very often. BRAVO TO EVERYONE INVOLVED. This was a serious piece of modern drama. Likely will be loved and deconstructed for generations to come.
Jeremy Strong is such a talented actor and such a smart guy. A real pleasure to listen to him.
We can take a sigh of relief; this masterclass of a show stuck the landing.
None of the main characters got resolution so I wouldn’t say that’s sticking the landing
Started crying when they watched their Dad on video at his home and didn't stop. God what a show. Masterpiece.
Never felt so devastated for a character after a finale. Jeremy strong brought that emotion out of that character and out of audience.
Will miss this incredible series.
The entire cast is stellar. I would love to hear from Sarah Snook, and all of the cast, now that they don't have to avoid spoilers.
“I wouldn’t know how not to drink it (38:50)” is incredibly insightful…. What a phenomenal performer.
Right? This shows you he completely becomes the character.
i think this is the most perfect piece of television ever made. i'll miss the absolute disfunction of the family :((
to think I pretty much gave up on it the first season. It was only after the considerable twitter buzz that I gave it another shot.
@Nice2347 I've watched them both. Succession has less missteps than those other 2 and seemed to get out at a perfect time although the other 2 probably had higher highs.
Season 1 of True Detective and Dark
@DeweyDeway22 Never seen Dark but True Detective definitely
Better Call Saul
Thank you HBO and Jeremy Strong for such an amazing show and performance. This was excellent writing, acting, directing. You all deserve all the Emmys coming your way.
I don't know what it is about Jeremy Strong but I have this love and appreciation for him! I just get so happy haha. He hits different as an actor- he takes it seriously and goes all the way there. Just so endearing, passionate, serious- I love it. Ugh this was the perfect role, not just for him, but for all the cast. I really hope we get to see every single one of them in more shows, SOOOON.
Same
definitely!
Strong reading out the poem genuinely made me tear up. Unbelievable actor and I'll probably watch anything he's in now.
It is a tragic show and incredibly dark take on modern life, but man he is very comedically talented in the show. He absolutely should be in a comedy
R.I.P to one of the greatest shows ever. Glad to be alive in the same timeline where Succession exists
jeremy strong's self expression is so good his vocabulary is rich, he can tell what he is thinking or feeling so well just like his acting
i love that the last scene that they shot for the entire show was allowing the 3 main actors to have fun together with the kitchen scene. creating a show beyond what is edited for people to watch says a lot.
lol, spitting in that concoction was quite the touch
@Mal Evans1935 USA just a bit of fun. get over yourself
@Mal Evans1935 USA only child?
Didn’t work for me either. It was cringey.
@RiseAbove it was family ties. Group hug. Garbage. Absolute garbage
Felt so terrible for Kendall but honestly what a perfect ending for Tom to be the guy
Agreed, but can we even earnestly say that he’s “the guy”? He’s completely dispensable, on purpose of course, to be able to slot into the role of Matson’s pet dog.
There are differing levels of losing between the characters at the end, but I think the larger point is that they all lose in a serious way. But yes, in the literal sense Tom does come out “on top” of the other main characters given his current level of status and influence. Just seems very temporary and like it could go away for him at any moment if Matson decides to move on to another replaceable figurehead
@agabhe’s not ’the guy’ but he’s exactly where he wants to be.
Just watched the ending and i'm stil in absolute awe
No way they just ended an absolute masterclass of a series like this
Truly a Meal fit for a king
All the Emmys for Jeremy Strong!
You can tell how invested Jeremy is in his character... Sometimes he refer to him as Kendall, but most of the time when he was talking about him, he said "I", like he IS Kendall. And, in a way, he is😍
Top tier finale, sad it's over, but a fitting ending.
Everyone of us knows Jeremy actually drank what was in that smoothie..always full commitment,gotta love him
I was really hoping they switched it out with a chocoloate milkshake..........I think that would have been the better choice......he got sick later and could have jeapordized filming schedule.
Also let’s just acknowledge the brilliant soundtrack/score for this series. Beautiful and unique
What a great actor Jeremy Strong is.
The best ending to a show. So sad it’s gone. But I have hope that Ken will be OK after a bit of a break from everything.
it really hurted, so close, I think Kendall commits not alive
I honestly its not a happy ending for him, likely to live out his days running an extremely smaller buisness, his purpose diminished and he alienated his children. Ironically he was very much like his old man in the final scene.
Kendall won’t be okay but that’s the point. None of the kids deserves to win. They are all spoiled jealous insecure brats. And that’s exactly what happened in the end. Shiv would rather die then let Kendall win.
@Scottph123 Nobody deserves anything
@IrradiadedCrowxactly. Even Tom and Greg don’t get what they deserve , which is their new job.
It was the perfect ending. The whole episode gave goosebumps. It was SO GOOD.
Loved it all. Loved how the siblings played in the kitchen and when they watched the family video.
I didn't see the twist coming. At times I feared for the safety of one or another but overall enjoyed it so much.
Great show. Beautifully written, acted, directed, shot, edited, and has a great score. Always loved the way water was filmed and the way the cars drove so close fast. Almost military in its presentation. Or an SUV commercial.
Loved it, loved it, loved it! Big thanks to anyone who was involved in it!
Bravo to everyone involved in this larger than life maniacal dramady … leaving us with emotions and thoughtful reflection hours after watching … very rare for me to be affected by a TV show
Yup exactly how I felt
Watching the whole series again and now I know the ending I can see it all the way through. I recommend watching it again because you really get a whole new prospective on the show.
I love how he blurs the lines between himself and Kendall even in this podcast. There are numerous instances where he speaks AS Kendall and I find it so beautiful. Here is a man who is proud of his work in the best possible way. Love you Jeremy, love you, the entire cast of Succession ❤
If you think about it, it was the best thing that could have happened to Kendall.
Now, if he really does have the skills, he can forge his own destiny.
Boys gonna end it
Being a drug addict kind of gets in the way of forging your own destiny.
I'm rooting for him, but I can't really say with confidence that his future looks bright.
except he doesn't hahaha
Kendall was never going to make it. Logan was able to build WayStar from the dirt, to the point where the company almost controlled the United States. He built it. Meanwhile, Kendall simply inherited his wealth, and didn't develop the skills necessary to become a kingpin. You know what they say: Hard times create strong men, and Easy times create weak men
@Di Sierra-Amado well than this just saves him from future humiliation.
I am here as a fellow viewer, to acknowledge that Succession has, as we know, ended. Succession was a show, also Succession has been on HBO since 2018. And when a show ends it is sad. All the shows will end one day. In this case, it is Succession who has done so. Succession was on air for four seasons, but no more, now it is over. Succession's viewers were us. Now we are sad.
Jeremy Strong is not only a superb actor, he is also a very deep person.
*A poetic ending to an iconic show!*
What a ride. I've been rooting for Tom ever since he sided with Logan at the season 3 finale. I am glad he won and decided to keep Greg because as we know "You can't make a Tomlette without breaking some Greggs"
But Tom is made now and don’t needs any Gregg’s for now
@Grovelaar he'll always need greggs in my opinion or at least he loves having him around even though he's selfish and will betray Tom when there's something in it for him.
Tom and Gregg’s dysfunctional bromance is my favorite relationship in this show, so I loved that despite the multiple back and forth betrayals, Tom is keeping Gregg by his side.
When Tom told him on election night that he “can’t have someone else do my gregging” it was such great writing.
Shiv is actually the least likeable of all the kids
@Lucy Hidayat an argument could be made for Kendall sometimes but most times shiv is the least likeable
Ken denying the death he was involved with to try and save his position as a last ditch effort when it was clearly over was just MARVELOUS WRITING... At the end of season 2, Logan tells Ken "You Have To Be A Killer". I mean if that is just not exceptional irony playing out... Kendall was bedeviled in that Boardroom from the moment we met him. He might very well be the most tragic character HBO has given us since DeQuan aka "Dookie" from "The Wire"...
Alex and Jeremy are so different. Impulsive, light on his feet swede and very meticulous, serious Strong.
I so wanted Ken to win, and i really thought he did, i was happy with the happy ending, and then Shiv did that. And I was angry at first, but then i realised that was the right ending. It's the only right ending.
What a phenomenal show! Thank you to everyone involved! ❤👏
The best possible ending to an incredible show ❤
i want Jeremy to tell bedtime stories till i fall asleep
I just caught this show last month and got hooked. Never expected to love it. The last season has been a great pleasure to watch and think about. I hope to see more from the creators and cast.
NOOO ITS OVER😭😭😭
In all seriousness, a true masterpiece on all levels. This is what a masterclass in writing and storytelling looks like from every fundamental aspect of the show. I am super satisfied with this finale. It was simply incredible how everything ended. I had a feeling it would end the way it ended, but I did not in the slightest expect it to go down that way.
My boy Tom was the only one who could have possibly been victorious out of that circle of characters (siblings and family members). Sure I have no doubt Jesse and his team could have gone the route of Kendall coming out on top, and it would have had it's own poetic sense to it calling back to the very beginning, but there would be one thing missing... the element of tragedy.
At it's core this show is a Shakespearean tragedy, and the way they ended it completely encapsulates that.
I'll miss this show so much, but they went out on top, and that's all we can ask for.
👏👏👏👏 Sensational!!!
Excellent podcast of one of my favorite shows of all time. Repeated viewing only enhance the experience. With Kara as host, we are treated to the actors providing additional analysis of scenes, the show & their characters. Jeremy Strong is a deep thinker, and it profoundly shows in his work.
The best show HBO has ever made. Jessie, can't wait for your next project.
Amazing series. One that I’ll rewatch again and again.
Thank you for the wonderful Podcast Kara! I loved listening it on Mondays at work. Amazing show!
It was the only possible ending but it was deeply unsettling nonetheless. If it turns out that Mencken didn't win--as one character hopefully suggested--it would be hilarious if Tom Wambsgans once again found himself contemplating life in prison if he was left to deal with allegations that ATN had interfered in the election.
They weren’t serious people.
But honestly, I’m so glad to have watched, enjoyed and been emotionally abused by this show in real-time, to all of us who are united in our love of Succession, Skål! 🍻
My word. Jeremy is as eloquent with impromptu interview comments as Kendall is with "impromptu" eulogy remarks.
This show was so perfect, got me from the beginning: the understated writing, innovative camera work & the amazing acting. I love it gleeful it stuck the landing.
It brought tears to my eyes when he said the kitchen scene with the siblings was the very last scene they shot 🥺
A gente viu a história sendo feita. Essa serie entrou pra historia
The scene where the siblings are watching the video of Logan singing with Karl really gets to you - Every family will have videos like that where they remember moments with those that they have lost
This was the only way to end the show. Perfection
I could listen to Jeremy Strong talk about Kendall for hours.
I think Kendal Roy will deservedly be remembered for a goodb20, 30 years. I can completely imagine articles in the future referincing the story of Kendal as a conparison tonreal world events.
Jeremy Strong basically did this podcast as Kendall. How crazy!!
The ending was brutal, man.
One of the greatest Series finales to one of the greatest shows of all time
sopranos part 2
@doug schmitt it was never going to be any of them… the first 3 seasons showed us. Season 1- Kendall Season 2 - Shiv Season 3- Roman … they all crashed and burned
So incredible to listen to these two burgeoning masters actors talk in depth about such interesting characters. Gonna miss this show
Alexander is still a nobody
@S he isn’t but you are
@SHe isn’t a ‘nobody’ but I agree that he is hardly a ‘master actor’. Neither is Strong, as yet, but may be. He is a big fan of DDL and he hasn’t quite crept out from under his shadow.
I’m going to miss this show. Quite literally lightning in a bottle and as sad as it is to see it go I do think this season was the peak. There is only so much further it could have gone. I would enjoy a two hour movie maybe taking place a few years later just to see a bow wrapped completely on these characters.
What a great idea!
Give Jeremy all the awards
An excellent series!! Will be missed. I hoped Kendall would come out on top, but it made since seeing all the kids lose and end where they did. Satisfied to see Tom come to the top
I think Shiv was sincere about joining her brothers in the vote but when she saw the way the votes were going with both Sandi's voting Yes, she was on the fence. What I believe tipped her over was when Kendall's denied he caused the waiter's death, she realized that Kendall might have had Logan's business savvy but had also his cruel and menancing behavour.
What a tragedy, such a tragedy - so many feelings but ultimately wow.
we get to see them completely happy, behaving like teenagers in the kitchen, even having a nice moment with their mum
then at the end, they rip each other throats and nearly literally
awesome ending
three characters I loved to hate, and they all get what they so richly deserved
Why nobody talks about this genius music….. honestly that’s what makes this so intensely emotional!
The way it kicked in when Greg slapped Tom back was amazing.
Will Kendall survive? When he walked away from the water I understood that he will survive.
No. He’ll only survive if big boy is following him everywhere. If that man blinks Kenny boi will most likely be gone.
@Zoe Guzman I wondered if he'd just let him drown ..
Kendall doesn't have the stomach to commit suicide. That was the point of Rome's nugget of truth. The three of them were cosplaying business people. Tom survived because he's the real deal and understands the nature of his position. Same with Karl, Gerri, and Frank.
@Naheem QuattlebaumNoone should have the stomach for that dude😂
He won’t. Jeremy himself said that his life is over now. There’s nothing for him to live for.
Just finished it... God! What a show!
It came full circle once again. From series 1, episode 1 and the finale, Kendall was to be CEO and it was taken away. Dad first now Shiv.
I saw Shiv as being most like her father - SO manipulative. Superlative character writing here.
So true. The only thing that I didn't like about the finale was that Shiv wasn't berated enough for all her misdoings. She was the most toxic among the three.
But it will bother Shiv that Tom has more power and she's just his wife. They deserve each other. And I couldn't believe it when Lukas interviewed Tom and said he wanted to f**k his wife, and Tom just sits and takes it. He'll take anything to get what he wants. And I was glad to see Greg hit Tom back. The worst for me was seeing Tom in charge of Waystar, even as a puppet.
I love hearing Strong talk, he has a nice vocabulary
Tom’s dedication to the Company and loyalty to Logan, including the prison option and constant hardwork actually managing business while the entitled and deceitful sibs plotted, means the outcome was positive but …. “Heavy is the head that wears the hollow crown” .
As someone who jumped on later in the series. It’s been fun. Can’t wait to see a spin off series of young Logan Wamsgams running the company in a few decades lol.
Its so clever and sums up the characters of this show for me that getting billions into your hand is a dream for 99% of people and for Kendall it was ultimate failure
Connor makes it out, Rome is scarred for life but with some hope, Kendall will probably commit suicide (poor Ken) and Shiv just became who she hated the most, her mom, the woman who has no power but married the king. Guess Tom was really Albany from King Lear, he's the one that gets to pick up whatever is left from England!
Yeah it was "perfectly painful" f that s
Rome was kinda gross in this episode. The comments about the kids were awful. And he deserved what Ken did to him.
Nooo Ken is going to make it … he will be a bitter man who will keep trying over and over to match his dad but won’t … I hope he smiles again like he did on that raft on the ocean because he has had a rough few years
Billionaires don’t commit suicide.
He’ll go on bender, pick himself up, and think of something.
Well said. Incredibly bittersweet. But somewhat, inevitable. We were fooling ourselves to think it would go any other way, like the kids did.