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‘Glass Onion’ Rian Johnson & ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ Joseph Kosinski | Directors on Directors
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- Published on Dec 19, 2022 veröffentlicht
- Joseph Kosinski and Rian Johnson talk about working with their A-list stars Tom Cruise, Kate Hudson, Daniel Craig and the rest of the ‘Glass Onion’ cast - including that Val Kilmer scene in ‘Top Gun: Maverick,’ the complex logistics of crafting a crowd-pleasing blockbuster, and their shared perspective on the so-called rivalry between theaters and streaming.
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This was the best one by far of any of the conversations. They just got down to asking the technical questions we all want to know, instead of generic praising and inspirational talks. I often find these frustrating because filmmakers seem to not want to talk about how they work. So refreshing to see 2 talents wax lyrical about everything so openly.
Totally agree… these are the questions that I would have liked to ask…
I have the same experience with this 1on1, very engaging, both directors in their prime and experiencing great success. Great interaction and exchange of ideas, styles and the approach in cinematic vision.
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“The movie’s perfect until you have to show it to people.“ You can hear the pain in Rian’s voice.
43:40 Tell you what, seeing them trying to kill each other as a kid, I never thought they'd end up producing the biggest film of the year, but fair play to them. Not bad for a cat and a mouse.
LOL
I understood that reference.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahha
PLEASE give Joseph Kosinski a Star Wars movie to direct. Tron Legacy and Top Gun were pure Star Wars!!!
i say give him a man of steel sequel
just imagine “from the director of top gun: maverick and tron: legacy” in that big red superman font
He doesn't have a strong sense of humour..not a critique of him per se but he's a technical director. I liked his sf film.
YESS!
Wtf
100%
These two directed 2 of the best films of the year so congratulations to both but I find Rian Johnson's craftmanship even more impressive. The sense theatricality he injected in his direction as well as the plotting motivated by the characters is fascinating. I applaud Jo Kosinski's sense of clarity in terms of scale for the action sequences but mostly just how collaborative of an effort Top Gun had to be.
Two of the best directors out in the game right now. Love both of their works, Oblivion was a phenomenal original story and movie experience. And Brick is an all time favorite movie of mine that i go back to countless times.
What a great video - two deeply thoughtful, eloquent and humble filmmakers who are clearly so in love with the craft and have a clear thirst for and commitment to continuous learning and improvement. Loved it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I could watch Rain Johnson talk about movies all day.
@sanitorz
You really thought Glass Onion was for intelligent, discerning adults?
Jesus.
@sanitorz
"Most depressing thing ever"
Just because I don't pretend to like a film?
Come on.
Anyone with taste or guts knows that "Glass Onion" (despite the Netflix machine supporting it for months) did not deserve its nomination and that the film stole it from actually deserving contenders.
Sad.
@sanitorz
Except "Glass Onion" was terrible, too.
Unless you thought that was smart. Wait, did you actually like "Glass Onion" or are you just pretending?
I don't know what is more sad.
Rian's delivery when opening on how he storyboards is SO GOOD
Man I've been a huge fan of Kosinski since Tron Legacy and then Oblivion.
Really hope he gets more work in blockbuster sci-fi
Both movies are excellent but holding Top Gun for two years so it can be seen on the big screen was not only crazy but correct. Great interviews.
I hate that Rian Johnson's star wars divided the fans, personally I was very upset with the direction he took things. But, he is an amazing director and I really look forwards to where he takes the knives out IP, both films out now are amazing.
Wow this is so well edited. Best one of the series 😊
One of the best episodes of this series.
All interviews and discussions with Rian Johnson are golden.
@Boat "he stank up my Clip-Share recommendations" hmmm I wonder why?
@boat1280 I appreciate your attitude. It's nice seeing someone act like a normal human being about not liking a star wars movie
He’s too full of himself. Kind of like James Cameron, but significantly less talented.
Yeah I hate his Star Wars film but I really find him interesting as a creator. I love his attitude, just not his work lol
Also wow this dude replying is all over the thread lmaoooo. Rent free baby
@Striker Bowls
He stank up my Clip-Share recommendations, so not exactly.
I'm really happy that Joseph Kosinski has continued to grow in the emotional department as a filmmaker. Tron: Legacy and Oblivion had amazing style and atmosphere to it, but was lacking in the emotional department - Tron: Legacy more-so than Oblivion. I really enjoyed both movies, though, and gushed over how beautiful they looked, how well done the action scenes were, and how awesome the soundtracks were, coming from Daft Punk and M83.
Then he did Only The Brave, an emotional wallop with a more subdued style. With Top Gun: Maverick, he combined those two elements together perfectly.
You should really watch Only the Brave. It's the movie Kosinski did with Teller and Connoly. It's an amazing movie and really delves deep into the emotional aspect of the story.
I could listen to them talk for hours. I saw Top Gun Maverick 5x in the movie theater. It was an amazing experience. I went with my mom the first time and then went by myself the other 4 times. And yes, I went back for the emotions. I know nothing about jets but I've loved Pete Maverick Mitchell since I saw the first Top Gun. I'm invested in his life and seeing him happy in the end was very satisfying.
I LOVE that he actively shouts out the props department. Crew is a really important part of film, but they're usually overlooked 😊😊 #ScoopOfGossip
Awesome episode!
Does anyone also wish for a James Cameron & Jospeh Kosinski edition in the future?😆
Two of the greatest directors who have made the most enjoyable and rewatchable movies this year! #TopGunMaverick #GlassOnion
You need to see more movies, man.
Top Gun was one step above mediocre in terms of plot and story. The dramatic elements were borderline corny, and the last half was incredibly predictable (especially because it was almost a shot for shot retelling of the Death Star trench run from Star Wars, complete with -Han Solo- Hangman swooping in to save the day).
I have yet to see Glass Onion. However, I can tell you that there was at least one movie that came out this year that trumps all these movies, and that was Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. _That_ movie was a masterpiece. It had incredible action that served the story. It had family drama. It had amazing performances from each and every cast member. It had insane visuals. It made you laugh, cry, and cheer. Top Gun made me yawn.
Rian is a king, I hope he can make movies the way he wants forever !❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
YES!
Honestly? Please more of this! Yeah all the fluffy interviews with star actors is kind of entertaining I guess.
But I personally just want 2 directors to nerd out about their craft and start asking each other all the questions they want to ask another director for 1 h. We'll keep up don't worry about us 😉
Joseph Kosinski is such a great director.
Love reminding people that Rian Johnson directed Ozymandias, the single greatest episode of Breaking Bad and one of the finest hours of television ever crafted. He also edited an extremely underrated horror drama called May. This man has been doing great work for years and it's great he's finally being recognized for it.
(Can't wait for the absurd replies to this)
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Knives out in cinema a lot when it came out but if you think about it's logic for more than a couple of seconds, you can't un-see how illogical it is. It's flashy cinema and the acting is great at times. Johnson has some good skills. I liked his eye for little details and aesthetics but he isn't a good writer and some of his directions are not that great to put it mildly. Many of the main plot points are ridiculous and/or illogical.
Unfortunately Glass Onion is a big step down from Knives out and frankly it felt like a waste of time to me. Again, so many logic gaps. The mystery was never a mystery really, this whole Miles is just dumb thing feels exactly like that, dumb! it's a cheap cop out and not that smart or interesting (Blanc has many moments as well where he acts like he's a moron - I found that very annoying). I also never really cared about any of the characters because you don't really get to know them in any meaningful way.
@William Barter Tron Legacy is a lot more sensical than Knives out, Glass Onion and even Looper.
@David Holaday Exactly, you are free to think the knives out movies are good and I'm free to think they're incredibly stupid ,predictable, heavy handed, badly acted, obnoxious garbage. Not my problem that you can't accept someone disliking your precious Rian Johnson movie.
@IDAWG God gave us the gift of free speech, and also the prudence not to exercise it.
@IDAWG hahahaha what?
Two legends!
Best filmmaking class from the best!! And they are so respectful towards each other skills and perspective
Absolute pleasure to watch this all the way through. Such a rich and rewarding conversation.
I saw both of these movies twice in theaters, I’ve rented Top Gun once and rewatched Glass Onion twice on Netflix. I’d still buy the BluRay of both, especially if they had significant extras. All of this can co-exist.
I just want to say that Oblivion is one of the most beloved sci-fi movies ever to come from Tom Cruise, if you go to different clips and video reviews on Clip-Share, it's near unanimous praise from commenters / fans. I really hope that the success of Top Gun 2 leads to another Oblivion movie. Or even a trilogy, a prequel, and a wrap up. I love that universe. I love the way the movie looks, I love the score and of course Tom Cruise is pretty much excellent in everything he does. 🙏🏾
this is one of the best. these two guys i respect deeply as filmmakers
Love how Rian laughs the moment Joseph tells the absurd amount of footage as he acknowledges the absurdity of it.
This was one of the most interesting conversations I’ve ever been privileged to witness.
Great conversation. So much insight and respect for each other's work.
Joseph has exactly the same eyes as Tom Cruise. Rian looks like the cartoon Ralph Phillips. All kidding aside, these guys are massive talents who are committed to entertaining their audience.
I could listen to these two talk about their movies for hours
This was awesome! More writers on here please!
38:40
I was writing a screenplay last week, finished my first draft and handed it to my partner who isn't a writer. They read it and said "I like it" and I knew immediately that I had to throw 80% of it out and start over.
These guys together would make the greatest Star Wars film of all time I GUARANTEE it
@Bebo Who cares?..Lotta kids loved Star Wars growing up, he's not special in that regard... It's pretty childish to assume you know any directors M.O. because of what they say they love
@A.R.T Guy moved for, Star Wars and recreated Star Wars scenes when he first got a cemera as a child. Dislike his movie but denying that he loves the franchise is childish.
@Bebo "Probably the biggest Star Wars fan in the world" lol stop
@klaussone This comment section is full of really annyoing Star Wars fans who just watch children movies and are not interested in discussing anything impoortant that is part of this video.
I understand that you are frustrated because of the quality of the conversation but the condescending why you write your comments surely can not help.
Alright Joseph and Rian,
Make that Elite Director Internship a thing.
All I ask is us the audience get a brief BTS footage as various directors support each other and visit each other sets and learn from each other and form future collaborations.
Let us be a fly on the wall 🤣😊
You can tell that they're filmmakers because of how often they say "the notion of".
I read this comment the same time they said "the notion of"
“only the brave” is such a highlight in Kosinski’s filmography. It doesn’t get talked about enough.
As a firefighter, I couldn't agree more.
Loved this conversation so much!
Great seeing these 2 just sat down having a chat 👍👍👍
Rian is the man, could listen to him all day
Great convo, really felt like I learned some nitty gritty directing stuff even though I will absolutely never put it to use.
Glass onion was amazing though! Saw it twice, would have gone more if it had been in theatres longer and already planning to watch it again with friends at the end of the week
For all of Johnson's excess plotting, the progress of the main story runs along familiar lines.
While who-does-what-to-who-and-why is baffling to begin with (like a magician moving onto a further allusions in order to obfuscate the obviousness of their first trick), I just don't think that the elements that lead up to the ending are subtly or effectively dealt to us.
In particular, the second act goes on and on.
Directors of two of the best movies of the year imo.
TGM and Only the Brave are masterpieces.
I didn't realize Tom Cruise directed Top Gun until I saw him playing a director named Kosinski here.
Maverick and Glass Onion are no doubt two of the best films of 2022
These two made my 2 favorite films of the year
I could have watched them talk for hours. That was so interesting.
How great would it have been if Tom Cruise and Daniel Craig met for Actors and Actors conversation
Adding to our Vision Board.
Very enjoyable conversation. Smart and insightful!👍
This was pretty honest & great.
Rian Johnson straight up one of the best directors in the business
2 massive talents. 2 humble filmmakers. What a great conversation. I can't believe Rian draws with stick figures. He's being humble surely. I would never have thr balls to show an actor a shitty sketch that only made sense to me. I bet he's a great artist lol
Thanks, Joseph! Thanks, Rian! Thanks, Variety! 🎬 #Variety #DirectorsOnDirectors #RianJohnson #JosephKosinski
Saw Glass Onion twice and it’s always fun watching on the second viewing people theorize and pick up on clues. Clue is my favorite board game so I may be biased.
I hope that he clarifies what the plot hole was at 12:12 now that the movie is out.
Would love to see an episode with James Cameron and Rajamouli.
I’d love to see a version of this with 2 directors trashing the other’s movie.
When the director, who was a kid when top gun came out, looks older than Tom Cruise, who was an adult and in the movie.
I want both of these guys to a direct a Superman movie.
Directors of two of my favourite films of the year (Glass Onion 3, Top Gun 5.).
Awesome! Would love to see one with Damien Chazelle
I really enjoyed their chat here, just nerding out with each other and talked shop.
Two great movies: Glass Onion and Top Gun Maverick!
Glass Onion’s character blocking and cam movement is so far ahead from Knives Out, gg Rian
I wish he would of continued with the tron franchise legacy was an experience and Garrett was incredible but Disney pulled the plug 🔌
All this needs is James Cameron so it's just a talk between three directors who directed some of the best sequels of the year.
How does Rian still have a career after Ep8? Shocking
Kosinski's questions are AMAZING.
Oh man. This really made my day.
I need to see Matt Reeves in one of these.
Loved this one
0:05 Kawhi leonard's laugh : "Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary."
bruh what was that laugh💀
I genuinely thought Joseph WAS Tom Cruise, hope that’s a compliment
Love Robert McKee!
i'm back and holy shit LOL 43:44 "Tom & Jerry" got a REAL good chuckle out of me
35:53 The appropriate reaction to that idea
We need a conversation between Daniels & SS Rajamouli!!!
42:43 I wanna give credit To tom and Jerry 😂
Just two of the best today + denis villeneuve
Joseph Kosinski is like David Lynch if David Lynch gave a single damn about what the audience wanted.
??????
They're nothing alike. In any way.
i've never loved and hated two directors in the same interview so much. Kosinski is an absolute Legend.
Absolutely boring
Two brilliant minds together. All these so called "Star Wars fans" commenting. The Last Jedi is probably the fourth best in the series behind Empire, Rogue One and A New Hope.
I agree
This with The Daniels. The best movies of this year: Maverick, EEAAO & Glass Onion
I love the fact that Joseph Kosinski was able to do legacy sequels!! Tron: Legacy and Top Gun: Maverick!! This guy knows that the fundamental thing about making a sequel is that the roots are not forgotten yet make it fresh to audiences of old and new!! Rian Johnson unfortunately couldn’t do that to Star Wars partly because of himself and of course LucasFilm/Disney!!
He was originally going to call it Top Gun Legacy.
@dhruvurs9890 the prequel trilogy is awful. They've got interesting ideas. But the films are bloated, often weirdly opaque, the acting is wooden (George Lucas isn't a great writer of dialogue), and the cgi really is over used. They aren't good movies.
The sequel trilogy was ruined by poor planning, corporate meddling and a lack of clear vision. Disney was purely reactive. Just doing things based off fan response which is not a good way to write a cohesive story.
@An enemy stand the sequel trilogy was ruined by Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, Rian Johnson, and Disney executives!! The movies became like the MCU!! The original and prequel trilogy stand the test of time!!
The last jedi was the best star wars film since empire
Family watched both of their movies today.
I loved that in Glass Onion, you could immediately tell the good characters from the bad characters by how they were wearing their mask when introduced on screen. This is exactly the type of ham fisted, shoe horned political commentary that I’m looking for when settling down for a movie.
Rian Johnson is such a genius. Everything he touches is a masterpiece.
@agmor1 Why do you let movies that you don't like occupy such a large space in your mind?
@Largentina
"Go outside"
I guess you subverted my expectation of "Go touch grass".
@agmor1 I agree, but Jesus Christ, go outside.
@karstenkarsten4561
Looper was terrible ten years ago, so ...
Joseph Kosinski looks like he could be related to Tom Cruise lol
Such a different approach to storytelling, Johnson focus on demonstrate how clever is his story, while Kosinski seems to focus on delivering the most satisfying experience for the audience.
I'd love to see what Kosinski can do with some big franchise like Marvel or Star Wars
I'm gonna be honest... kosinski's stories are uninteresting and unchallenging. Top Gun Mavericks story is just a collection of tropes. There is nothing half way compelling about it
Can’t wait for all the Star Wars fans being angry that they are platforming Rian Johnson 😂😂😂
@klaussone its just a good film
@Rickster Drummer I agree, hes showed both talent and knowledge. One can only speculate why it wasn't a good match. Some things are just personal. Or maybe just studio shenanigans.
I mean, I hated TLJ as much as the next guy, but that was his writing. He’s a fantastic director! 💪
Star Wars fan bros are like the Siths - they just can’t let it go. My favourite DoD instalment yet. Ryan Johnson is always a good watch.
@Noelle Nn The motivation for your line of reasoning are also questionable. They reek of appeal to emotion to validate your subjective opinion. The auto-correct is the least of your problems. But don't fret, many agree Johnson is a talented director/witter with ups and downs like everyone.
@Roy Wilson Goddamn Autocorrect made me a fool again! 🥴
I know that RIAN has a smirking, obnoxiousness self-importance that makes some people believe that the film was so damn terrific, but he really has garbage instincts.
He has a passive-aggressive, sweaty, desperate-to-please theater kid energy. Not only does he want to entertain you but he wants you to be painfully aware of how much EFFORT he puts into entertaining you.
His films reek of self-indulgence.
Cant even spell his name right. 😂😂😂😂
Borrowed from another commenter "his decisions on that movie were like the iceberg that sank the Titanic. Feel how you want about the movie on its own, but his decision to throw away everything the previous movie set up, and then end his movie- the middle part of a trilogy in a connected 9-movie saga- as if it were a stand alone film, without setting anything up for the final movie, was possibly THEE worst decision in modern movie history."
@cmiller7299 the fact that you want a came out of nowhere personalitless sack of cgi as the main villian tells me enough.
@An enemy stand Just that fact you think Kylo Ren was acceptable as a main villain is enough to not take you seriously on anything. Snoke was the intended villain and Rian threw him away. The Last Jedi was terrible from a narrative standpoint, and it's Star Wars/Rian fanboys who can't admit that to themselves.
Rian and John said it right. Stop thinking about big screen or Netflix. Just make a good movie and the people will come
If Rian has full control of his own ideas and own IP he is great. When he follows peoples scripts and directs he is fine (BB). When he directs and writes for another IP he is absolutely garbage. This is the guy that divided the greatest IP ever . Unreal lol
He made a bad movie. Get over it. Most good directors have at least one black sheep in their filmography. SW fans are the worst.
TOP GUN: MAVERICK = MASTERPIECE
@scottbarkley496 I mean am I wrong though. I like the movie but tell me one thing it does narratively that isn't a wellworn trope.
@An enemy stand get lost
It's very visual impressive and narratively uncreative.