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  • Rhett Shull
    Rhett Shull  2 years ago +80

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    • Guitar Exploration
      Guitar Exploration Year ago

      Lying back on couch while playing.

    • DrewBud
      DrewBud 2 years ago

      Thanks man, its like you read a list of my issues that I've been having for a little while now. Appreciate the help, ima fix em lol

    • Shelby Scott
      Shelby Scott 2 years ago

      jaw dropping truth!!!

    • AMICALOLA
      AMICALOLA 2 years ago

      Lol. Yeah, I agree about playing the same darn tune. 😏

    • Miscellaneous 84
      Miscellaneous 84 2 years ago +2

      I like how you used "I" instead of you. So many people use that in their titles as if that don't have flaws (YOU). It let's me know that it is you, I, and US. We're all in this together. Great job! Now I know you're not a narcissist lol.

  • Alfred Houdijk
    Alfred Houdijk 2 years ago +2938

    No 1 bad habit: watching Clip-Share instead of playing the guitar.

    • Simon Linser
      Simon Linser 2 months ago

      this couldn't be more true.

    • Thiscopower
      Thiscopower 5 months ago

      NO 3 - Stop Grinding Thru Facebook , Twitter and Instagram :)

    • ButcherTibi
      ButcherTibi 6 months ago

      Guitar is still waiting for me for 40 mins

    • Jay Young
      Jay Young 6 months ago

      So true... Listening to guys blather on about why I won't become a good guitarist is eating into my practice time😖. Then I buy something I don't need after being bombarded with 60 million ads about something that rocks but in reality doesn't... 😂

    • Amrit Prasad
      Amrit Prasad 6 months ago

      LOL put me in jail right now im so guilty of this

  • Cem Sarioglu
    Cem Sarioglu 2 years ago +83

    Two of my practice routines:
    -I turn on Spotify. Select a song that I’m familiar with. Try to play the vocal parts. After that play the chords of the same song. Next step is combining the chords with vocal melodies.
    It really works. And it helps you on live situations as well. On some parts, play unison with the vocalist (without shadowing his/her vocals of course) and let the keyboard player or the other guitar guy do the chord playing.
    -Play the same chord from at least 5 different positions. Take the C chord for example and try to find 5 different positions to play it. This really helps your mind memorise the map which is called the fretboard. Cheers.

    • lx
      lx Month ago

      how do you know the chords? do you just figure it out by ear?

    • Hernan Hernandez
      Hernan Hernandez Year ago

      Thank you for that. Sounds like a great practice challenge

  • Jack Barlow
    Jack Barlow 2 years ago +93

    As an intermediate guitar player, at best, the best thing I've done recently to improve my playing is to learn songs by ear from memory and then play along with the studio version of the song. Great for your sense of tempo and ability to play with other people.

    • TK
      TK 11 months ago

      You'll never really know what you know until you ditch playing along with any tracks...if you cannot put the song together with musicians you literally don't know what you don't know. ..it's totally different from hiding within a track and thinking you know it. Live with real musicians reveals the truth about how good you are. Bedroom jams prove almost nothing.

    • fluffytoke
      fluffytoke Year ago +1

      Same. I’m a keyboard player in a band but I mostly play acoustic guitar and sing by myself or with a drummer and another singer. One thing that never stops to amaze me though is how much you think you know a song but you don’t. You would swear it’s right and then when you finally play along with it, it can be very humbling at times. But at the same time, I find that I come with different ways of playing certain parts that to me sound better. Something like adding some garnish between Chords, playing bass riffs with it, or slightly adding an extra dimension to a chord.

  • pikiwiki
    pikiwiki 2 years ago +75

    Disagree about noodling. If no noodling, how do you discover new rhythms, chord sequences, etc? I can complete song parts by noodling then constructing complementary sections after discovering a new part. I would say, noodling itself is merely a method to find undiscovered layers. It depends on the noodler whether they can pull the parts together. That's where music begins.

    • Nick Papagiorgio
      Nick Papagiorgio 4 days ago

      I'm no expert, by any stretch, but I believe noodling comes as a natural progression as a player transitions from one level to the next. EVERYONE wants to play well and to solo, etc... and that's where noodling comes in. I think the beginner or intermediate player starts noodling the minute they pick up a guitar and realize they know a couple scales. Personally, I use noodling as a warmup. Just to loosen up before trying to play other stuff I'm working on. I also use it if I start getting bored. If I find I'm noodling too much, I stop playing for a bit.

    • fallensummit
      fallensummit 22 days ago

      Noodling has its place but if you think virtuoso guitar players or any other instrument improved by noodling then more power to you. Many people play guitar less than an hour a day and if it's 30 minutes noodling and 10 maybe doing something new you're going to make next to no progress. But anything is better than nothing. Edit, and also some of these arguments seem to be conflating song writing with noodling. If you have a foundation and you're specifically jamming to find a new part that is not necessarily noodling. That's writing. And one more point, if someone never practices to a metronome or backing track at least they will never be able to keep time with a band (without further practice). Even if you think you're jamming on point in your room I promise once you get with a drummer or something you will see all the little pauses and things you do that are not in time

    • Greg
      Greg 2 months ago

      As a new player (about a month) I’ve noticed learning new songs makes me a better player and helps me develop dexterity that I wouldn’t use playing little 4-5/note riffs. I learned the Santeria solo from Sublime and I didn’t think I was at that level yet but having Clip-Share really helps me as a visual learner. However, I practice that solo everytime I play so I don’t forget it and it let’s me play all over the fret board. I feel learning new riffs is exciting but I only know two chords and I have to work on that. For me it’s easier to solo than play chord’s because I don’t have that muscle memory and it seems my fingers won’t stretch that way. I have Med-large hands so I know it’s just lack of trying. So my next song will be like an AC/DC that has riffs and chords. However, for me improving my Santeria solo is important as a beginner because it helps with my timing and accuracy. For me the biggest improvement came from anchoring my pick hand to the guitar so I can now play without looking at my pick hand all the time. Still miss strings but it’s like a whole new world now. I force myself to play “Day Tripper” without looking at the guitar. While it’s a common beginner riff it really is helping improving my accuracy. Problem is if I learn too many new songs I forget them… and I feel that’s progress lost because knowing the riff let’s me focus on learning how refine my technique. Sorry for the rant but I feel like I broke through a little! I played as a kid in 1996 for a few months and it was a lot harder to learn by yourself then and I eventually gave up in frustration.

    • Zachary Edwards
      Zachary Edwards 5 months ago

      Noodle at home when writing. Noodling during a gig is a different thing.

    • Jerry Hill
      Jerry Hill 5 months ago

      @300 blAKout I agree it's the same thing as going back to the same guitar solo forever. It's counterproductive. I'd do it when dialing in a tone, but that's it.

  • EthioMod
    EthioMod 2 years ago +42

    Thanks for getting me hooked to Tom's channel

  • Steven Nemeth
    Steven Nemeth 2 years ago +95

    Totally disagree with "noodling" as a bad habit. It's the simple act of playing and finding a creative inspiration and warming up your hands. Much like "Doodling" as a way of opening your mind to creative inspiration. That said, your entire practice routine should not just be noodling around aimlessly. And if the "Timing" issue bothers you, noodle to a click track, metronome, or drum sample. But don't ever stop noodling, that's how you discover new techniques, tones, phrases, speed, etc. You'll find various other videos on Clip-Share that agree with this theory of noodling is good.

    • ripplebear
      ripplebear 2 years ago

      @Marcos Roberto Dos Santos of course, but we're not talking about band etiquette here ;) but I agree as well, it's not really bad, it's just warming up. It's all just playing guitar :)

    • Claudius Jelinek
      Claudius Jelinek 2 years ago

      i started to record my initial "noodling" ideas with the phone , and now i've got lots of licks to practice....

    • Claudius Jelinek
      Claudius Jelinek 2 years ago

      almost everytime i pick up my guitar in the morning something new comes to me , a new melodic idea or chord voicings......

    • AWH NJ
      AWH NJ 2 years ago +1

      Agreed. Aside from warming up, it's good to do as you are dialing in sounds at a gig, as every room is different and even with a rig like mine where I'm mostly using presets from a multi effects pedal, settings need to be tweaked to the room.

    • Boognish Beast
      Boognish Beast 2 years ago +1

      Totally agree with you. Maybe it would be better to stop playing predetermined licks. If I stopped every time I started to noodle I'd stop being creative.

  • Fret Fu -Guitar Kung Fu
    Fret Fu -Guitar Kung Fu 2 years ago +197

    Noodling is only a problem if you're on the clock in the studio. Otherwise anytime your guitar is in your hands, you're better off playing then not playing.

    • Dana Biondo
      Dana Biondo Year ago

      @Andrew Halliday Music Yes All Things In Balance So True!

    • Joe Urbanowski
      Joe Urbanowski Year ago

      @tohsty_gohsty … 🤣🤣🤣

    • Joe Urbanowski
      Joe Urbanowski Year ago

      I think Rhett’s point about noodling is to give it structure.. Me..? I’m gonna start using my looper more….so that I have that structure… It’ll only take me a minute to lay down a chord progression…

    • Steve TURNER
      Steve TURNER Year ago +2

      @cnking27 I'm still a beginner after 50 odd years. 50 years of noodling.....mind you I've enjoyed those 50 years.....!!! Noodling to me is one of the best ways of building a relationship with the guitar. We all do it!

    • cnking27
      cnking27 Year ago +2

      I'm a beginner fwiw, but noodling also seems like a good way to just mindlessly enjoy the instrument, to really feel it with no intentions. I could see how it could prevent you from progressing if you did it all the time, but I also think it's important to take the time for the guitar to not be a means to an end sometimes and just meet it in the moment and enjoy it.

  • TheElectricfishmusic
    TheElectricfishmusic 2 years ago +6

    Rhett, I kind of think you're wrong about noodling. Depending on how long you've been playing it might have some benefits. Keeps your fingers exercised. Gives you deeper fingerboard familiarity. If you go a little "out" or "random" it could help you discover note relationships you're not familiar with. Granted - it doesn't make for a well constructed and interesting solo, but it might give some building blocks.

    • Jerry Hill
      Jerry Hill 5 months ago +2

      You can do that by learning new licks and ect though or have some kind of purpose for it. Noodling is like walking in place while trying to walk to point B. I think he was on point with it. It's not productive

  • Oneiros
    Oneiros Year ago +3

    Played guitar for a few months a few years ago, had to sell my gears for financial reasons but even then, I was burning out from playing too much inefficiently...relying only on tabs, not understand what I was playing, noodling all the time instead of learning new things.
    I recently was able to finally get a guitar and start me journey again. And decided to set myself a routine and limit time for my practicing.
    15 minutes practicing things I learned (spider exercise and chords transition right now), 15 minutes playing a song, and I add a little bit of time to learn music theory (for example, instead of following stuff that show me what chord to play, I see the name of the chords and build them myself)
    I started back just a couple weeks ago and, while I'm still getting back up to speed in term of play, I have learned so much more in 2 weeks...now I can look at the name of a chord and come up with it anywhere on the fretboard (well, anywhere it makes sense) which it something I couldn't do before. And it's so satisfying to learn things by myself instead of someone telling me what to do.
    Anyway, it's beginner talk, but I strongly recommend to others who start playing to try to understand what they are playing.

  • Rick Rossi
    Rick Rossi Year ago +6

    My wife politely suggested I learn some new material. That bummed me out to where I quit playing a few years ago. Rhett’s suggestions make me want to stop feeling sorry for myself, and pick up my guitar again.Thanks Rhett!

  • Yudi Pitre
    Yudi Pitre 6 months ago

    I so enjoy watching and learning from you what i can. Thank you 😊 I am self taught not easy 😌.
    Awesome advice

  • Sean Fullerton Music
    Sean Fullerton Music 2 years ago

    Great videos Rhett. Thank You! I'm a solo Acoustic musician, specializing in Blues , Soul, Rock 'n' Roll, and Instrumental Fingerstyle Guitar. I'm always listening to music, but focus on the guitar and bass parts mainly. Players like Dave Matthews and Ian Anderson inspire finding new ways to chord or approach lead riffs, but I really like your suggestion of listening for other instruments in the songs. Love any music with horn sections. Will definitely give that a try and see if it inspires a 'different' outcome. Currently I'm working on Cascading Harmonics. Long learning curve with that technique, but works in any of these forms that I play. Thanks again for your info and suggestions. :)

  • lespaulguy1979
    lespaulguy1979 2 years ago +6

    Kerry Livgren wrote Dust In The Wind (at his wife's suggestion) by "noodling", practicing a finger picking technique. I think it's a valid "habit". Just don't do it on stage in between songs. Time and place for everything.

  • Mr Pendent
    Mr Pendent 2 years ago +86

    Rhett: "I need to stop noodling."
    Me: "I hope some day I can play well enough to even pretend to noodle..."

    • Trey Durio
      Trey Durio Year ago +1

      @Donald Fewell Stevie Ray Vaughan noodled on stage sometimes

    • Donald Fewell
      Donald Fewell Year ago +1

      I'd say that the problem has more to do with when to noodle and when not to noodle. Also, there are many kinds of noodling, and one can become open to melodic, chordal and rhythmic noodling ad lib and improvisation. Most importantly, don't noodle or tune out loud on stage, as this is very unprofessional.

  • lewis Ratford
    lewis Ratford 2 years ago

    Great video and some fantastic points and tips. I find the best medicine is to learn a different musical style / genre also. Always great to have your main style but dip in to others and it opens up new ideas so quickly

  • Jaribu
    Jaribu Year ago +5

    The best thing to take from this is being honest about your playing and having the courage to leave your comfort zone.

  • Kipperbob Sam
    Kipperbob Sam 2 years ago +774

    The improv thing,
    put on the backing track,
    put down the guitar,
    Hum or sing a short melody you make up in your head,
    Then pick up your guitar and attempt to replicate the same melody.
    After a while you end up playing what you think of rather than what your fingers are comfortable with playing on the neck,

    • Username89039
      Username89039 Year ago +1

      Funny, I was watching some videos of me playing today and hating my aimless noodling. I thought I need to improve by recording me whistling to the tracks and then learn that whistling as solos. Guess I'm just better at whistling than guitar (even though I've spent 10,000 x more hours playing guitar than whistling!)

    • Matthias Koch
      Matthias Koch 2 years ago +1

      Solid advice

    • Jesse Trent
      Jesse Trent 2 years ago +1

      Right. I will usually have the entire song recorded with rhythm guitars, bass and drums and then put a first-take solo, Listen to the track over a few days and usually, I will start to hear a solo or lick in my head, and then build the solo that way. Good technique/idea you posted.

    • yes
      yes 2 years ago +1

      Will try that!

    • Kipperbob Sam
      Kipperbob Sam 2 years ago

      @Levi Williams I'll have a look for this, thank you.

  • PSN
    PSN 2 years ago

    Hi Rhett, my name is Josh. Your videos are great man. I had a similar epiphany about a year ago on the reverb thing and decided to practice without it more often. The results have been astounding to me! Thank you for what you do for the guitar community. Be safe out there.

  • northsongs
    northsongs Year ago +2

    I've been playing over 50 years now. Took lessons the first 2 or 3 years. The best thing I learned from my teacher was keeping time. Don't just pat your foot down, SLAP it down. Make your whole body a metronome.
    Thanks for the tips Rhett! love your channel.

  • Brandon7s
    Brandon7s 2 years ago

    Great video, probably my favorite of yours yet. I 100% have all of the same bad habits that you go over, particularly the reverb one (man, I love reverb...) and the "stop noodling" one, which I would kind of lump in with the bad habit of playing the same thing over and over. Was just mentioning to my girlfriend yesterday that I am going to sit down and focus on learning new material in order to break myself out of my comfort zone of just playing the same things on rotation. I bet that she'd appreciate not hearing me repeat the same few licks dozens of times within a couple hours, so I'm sure she would love for me to break that habit too!

  • Phoebe's Fresh Produce

    Practicing without reverb significantly improved my tone. It made me work harder on my accuracy, touch and vibrato. If it sounds good without reverb it'll sound fantastic with reverb. I find noodling in-time is great practice :-)

  • SandStormer
    SandStormer 2 years ago +432

    1. Noodling 2:10
    2. Too much reverb 5:17
    3. Resting hand on bridge 8:06
    4. Relying on muscle memory 11:20
    5. Playing the same things over and over again 14:02

    • JustDre
      JustDre Year ago

      Thank you

    • Levi Williams
      Levi Williams 2 years ago

      1 and 5 feel the same

    • Parashan Chakma
      Parashan Chakma 2 years ago

      Thnk u...

    • MOONfacekilla
      MOONfacekilla 2 years ago +1

      Takes way too long for him to start the actual point of this video

    • Silent J
      Silent J 2 years ago +1

      all the reason why i dont need to watch this in full.
      thank you

  • Tony Tavarez
    Tony Tavarez 25 days ago

    I really appreciate all of your insight. It gives me so much food for thought when I am practicing.

  • Fytakyte Music
    Fytakyte Music 2 years ago

    Very cool video Rhett - I always enjoy your chilled, yet honest presentations. I personally think the best way to break all of the bad habits you mention is just to focus on writing and recording (original) music. It just seems to be the best way for me to focus my attention on creating new parts and seeking new solutions. I've noticed that since I've focused my energies on that, I noodle far less.... On a lighter note (if you permit me to be slightly facetious), one "habit" I've noticed that a lot of players of a certain age seem to have developed is waving their guitar necks around very meaningfully after strumming a chord (Usually an impressively complex one). I first started to notice this when watching yours' and Paul David's video. Being of a... ahem.... another (prior) vintage, I wondered if I was missing out on something, so I did a few experiments. Being primarily a Strat player, I discovered that it takes some incredibly forceful "waving" to actually make any impact whatsoever on the angle of the neck (and therefore the sound produced). My other guitars were all similarly uncooperative in responding in any sonically meaningful way to the gentle "waving" I see in videos... Am I missing something, or is this another "habit" 😊

  • Richard White
    Richard White 2 years ago

    Hey Rhett - thanks SO much for this video. Your point about feeling paralyzed in playing when you don’t have the perfect reverb/effects/tone really struck home. I don’t usually haul around my amp and discrete pedal board anymore these days. I now use a Helix for most of my gigs and rehearsals. Less weight to carry. But I find I can’t always get the “perfect” tone I’d like given the mix of FOH and monitor speakers which we have at our venues and rehearsal studios; and so my reliance on hiding behind the perfect tone in my Helix (with my Studio monitors) has become a handicap for me - I MUST learn to play without this crutch so that it doesn’t impede my playing when I don’t have the perfect tone. Most of the time, in the mix, I don’t think people will notice my less than perfect tone (in the situations where we have bad speaker setup), but they WILL notice my tentative playing... So THANKS ONCE AGAIN for sharing your experience, and prodding me to “get off the drugs” of having to have perfect tone when playing.. I’m now started practicing at home with just basic Helix Amp/Cabinet tone and NO reverb. Thanks gain... Stay safe, keep up those chops, and please keep those videos coming! Richard.

  • Thomas Nowicki
    Thomas Nowicki 2 years ago +3

    Great video, Rhett. I've been an on and off gigging guitarist for almost fifty years who just started watching your videos. I'd like to add one suggestion to your top five bad habits that I've always noticed among guitar players: #6. Ditch the pentatonic scale and start basing your solos on chord tones! All of the great jazz and session players I know (Carol Kaye and George Benson come to mind) utilize chord tones in their soloing far and away over pentatonics. They have their place obviously, but if you really want to spice up your playing, try it.

  • Wesley Theron
    Wesley Theron 2 years ago +1

    Thanks for such a great video Rhett. It's great to see someone being honest about there flaws as well so as to help others! The video really helped and inspired me. I definitely struggle with the "noodling" mistake. Love this channel!

  • Ytai Ben-Tsvi
    Ytai Ben-Tsvi 2 years ago

    So sincere, and so relevant to so many of us.
    Thanks for putting it in such good words. For making progress you need to constantly be outside of your comfort zone.

  • x71822
    x71822 2 years ago +1

    Really loving these Rhett. Simple, practical lessons for any guitar player. Very inspiring as well. Thanks

  • Brent Sumner
    Brent Sumner 2 years ago +1

    I don't think I can completely avoid some or most of these (when I'm just trying to get stress relief from playing) but Rhett is spot on when it comes to learning and practicing guitar. My Guitars have been some of my best friends through life. Even if you're not a great player (like Rhett), guitar can be enjoyable for just about anyone. Then, when you do play something great... it's awesome!

  • Sefarst86
    Sefarst86 2 years ago +716

    Rhett Shull: "I need to stop noodling."
    Rhett Shull: "I need to stop using reverb."
    *turns off reverb, immediately starts noodling.

    • Mike Feen
      Mike Feen 9 months ago

      That was so funny. Thought the exact same thing and had to come find this comment. I feel like he means not to make a habit of playing the same old tired lines all the time. Still fairly sound advice.

    • Sc33p0
      Sc33p0 Year ago

      @Sunset Junior lil verb lil crunch .. mint

    • Mark V.
      Mark V. 2 years ago +2

      yes, i caught that. but fuck it, we all noodle. its ok sometimes

    • Tiago Soares
      Tiago Soares 2 years ago +7

      @Chill Bill i start my best ideias by just noodling around and then hit something that sounds good and start from there building something

    • Rulo
      Rulo 2 years ago

      ¡My thoughts exactly!

  • D Van
    D Van 2 years ago

    I'm relatively new to guitar and appreciate experienced musicians sharing some pitfalls and tips. Thank you.

  • Rod Reyes
    Rod Reyes 2 years ago

    This video has some really good perspective for me to identify areas to improve. I always feel like my right hand picking technique is the most suspect. Tenses up when I’m not feeling the flow. Going back to rebuild that form instead of refining a poor technique (for me) might be the ticket... anyway great video, I like the tone and demeanor, just subscribed.

  • Inverse_Sense
    Inverse_Sense 2 years ago

    Always helpful and relevant content Rhett, thank you!

  • Gary Grinkevich
    Gary Grinkevich 2 years ago

    Great advice all around i'm guilty of several of these, i'm torn between accepting my limitations and striving to improve I guess thats what really unites us all in the end how much technique do you need to get your point across, i think Steve Vai said something about this years ago. Tomo Fujita is a wellspring of good information and is a very chill person i just subbed to his channel thanks for reminding me!

  • allrequiredfields
    allrequiredfields 2 years ago +19

    All I hear from almost all guitarists, all the time, is noodling. I can't remember the last time I listened to a Clip-Share or Instagram guitar player that didn't sound like mindless noodling. Even the super technical stuff I hear sounds like noodling.
    I think peoples' biggest biggest problems with guitar are having only 4 or 5 rhythms from their strumming hand, and then once they've chosen that rhythm, it's on autopilot for the whole verse or chorus.
    And secondly, people spending all their time learning leads and soloing, and ignoring their song and riff writing. Every instagram guitar player out there will do these insane solos and leads, and then you hear songs or riffs they've written and they sound like they literally started playing guitar 6 months ago.

    • Ghost in the Wires
      Ghost in the Wires Year ago

      I agree with your last part. There’s a really good guitar player on Instagram that plays insane and raw Hendrix covers and other songs but when I listen to his original material it’s all bland.

  • Carlos Alfaro
    Carlos Alfaro Year ago +2

    42 years old here. Started playing guitar at 15 or 16 but didn't start recording / composing until recently. My playing has evolved and improved more in the past two years than it ever did the previous 20.
    Always hated practice because it became homework and felt like it took away from the fun of playing. However using my guitar time to write and compose and record even if it's simple or ends up being mediocre "songs" has been super satisfying and entertaining.

  • Robert Messina
    Robert Messina Month ago

    I've written songs on my guitar. Had I NOT been NOODLING...a song would never have been born. You noodle the tune you have in your head in the moment. So
    If you're not FEELING a tune in your head or you are working on mastering a song you're working on
    Yeah don't noodle. But
    If it wasn't for noodling
    By yourself no songs will be invented. Trust me

  • Tyler Winkler
    Tyler Winkler 2 years ago

    Just started playing guitar last week. Your videos are really helping me. Thanks dude !

  • * WOLVERINE *
    * WOLVERINE * 2 years ago +52

    Amen for giving Buk the credit he deserves. Love that dude, what a breath of fresh air for our community. Pure gold.

    • Dan Mc
      Dan Mc 2 years ago

      Tom Buk is the best thing about lockdown. Can’t get enough of the Home Skoolin 👍🏻

    • caleshtcincredibles
      caleshtcincredibles 2 years ago

      He is awesome

    • Darrick Thompson
      Darrick Thompson 2 years ago +1

      * WOLVERINE * among the purest.

  • Chubby Fonzey
    Chubby Fonzey 2 years ago

    I had (have) a lot of these problems. I found it useful to use a program like 'Transcribe' to learn solo's and chord progressions from other instruments (Piano and Saxophone mostly) to help break my mindset and found it helped a lot. Good vid man.

  • Sam Toshner
    Sam Toshner 3 months ago +2

    The muscle memory thing is my worst habit. I've basically wasted my guitar career learning to play in this way, instead of musically. I am now correcting this by focusing on the music theory - scales, chords, and learning all the tones and intervals. Muscle memory will fail you - it doesn't always land you on the correct fret or chord phrasing. Knowing music theory will help to land on the correct notes more often. Playing in scale, in time will always sound better.

  • telecasper
    telecasper 2 years ago

    Great video and tips Rhett! My antidote to almost everything you described is listening and watching Bill Frisell play ;)

  • Djh 69
    Djh 69 2 years ago

    Hi Rhett, I watched this with great interest. I’m a beginning guitarist and am enjoying my journey very much. One thing that struck me was floating your picking hand. At present I rest my hand on the bridge, pretty much like yourself. Would it be possible for you to do a follow up video detailing what you mean about floating your hand and why you are keen in adapting this style. Cheers David

  • Adam Gianetti
    Adam Gianetti Year ago

    This is all great info for me, just started playing 1 year ago. Been taking lessons for 2 months. I don’t yet have the ability to play what I like to hear. 59 arthritis ect. I only listen to how things sound , struggle with clean cords ect. Developing muscle memory but still consistent with looking at the fretboard. Always play clean because I don’t understand all the possibilities of my amps. Thanks

  • Esteban Gonzalez
    Esteban Gonzalez 2 years ago

    Just discovered this channel, and I’m digging it. I’ve been watching your videos with my guitar on my lap for the past few days. I’m an audio engineer who has always played guitar, but have never really taken it seriously. I want to change that.

  • Michael Thompson
    Michael Thompson 2 years ago

    Love your podcast & videos! I tend to noodle way too often, too but having to learn songs for a rehearsal helps. And just a few weeks ago, I finally bought Transcribe and decided to start learning solos that are outside of my comfort zone (Carlos Rios' solo's on Gino Vanelli's Brother to Brother album is what I'm working on now)....really helping giving me options with phrasing.

  • Tom Wimsatt
    Tom Wimsatt 2 years ago

    I seem to have some personal characteristics that help me avoid some of these bad habits: 1. I hate cliche's, 2. Having played acoustic and bass most of my life, dry is my starting point (and end point) more often than not, 3. I have lead music in small churches and have had to develop techniques that give me the most flexibility to get the sound I need for the song, 4) I love the challenge of any new song (see cliche' comment).

  • john Richardson
    john Richardson 2 years ago

    Rhett good video. Some other ways of improving that I use is practice with a Acoustic guitar. Heavier action &stings make you more accturate for clean note and coordinate both hands. ( put a arm rest on so you can float my picking hand easier) As far as not playing cliches look for melodic phrases rather than riffs. Start on different notes than normal use wider intervals. Be more reactive to what others around are playing. ( my group of friends call it BIG EARS) Going in cold but open and reactive to the music helps me improvise better. I feel that when a great musician plays they touch your soul with a melody and a presence of heart. This type of music haunts you mind and stay in your memory.

  • A Nutcracker Named Cosmo's Nickel

    Noodling is absolutely necessary! If you just avoid bad habit #5 then you will stumble upon new and unexpected riffs and licks all the time.

  • Fabian Portilla
    Fabian Portilla Year ago

    Great vid! One of my bad habits... playing too many notes. Learning to play more phrasing with fewer notes can make a piece more interesting.

  • Santi Núñez
    Santi Núñez 2 years ago

    Nice video Rhett! Been doing the same thing lately. Great tips!

  • Luke's Music
    Luke's Music 2 years ago +12

    Have to disagree a little bit about noodling. For me tons of great ideas come from noodling. It could be from a mistake, it could be from a particular sequence of notes that come out by accident. The important thing is to not fall into the muscle memory trap that you mentioned. As long as you take chances and seek out new sounds (good or bad) during noodling I think it can be a good source of ideas.
    That said, playing actual progressions/songs/full ideas is way better for practice and improvement.

    • Kahle Magalis
      Kahle Magalis 2 years ago

      Luke's Music m

    • Tactical Bathtub
      Tactical Bathtub 2 years ago +1

      I think he meant to hammer down more on the repetitive aspect just having a couple of go to’s. Noodling for the new I would agree with you is definitely important

  • Robert Lagree
    Robert Lagree 2 years ago

    Loved the tip about getting interesting ideas from listening to and transcribing other guitar players. Would like to also add other instruments as well, ie piano, horns etc. Heard a lot of cool licks that didn't come from guitar. Thanks

  • YaNMerlin
    YaNMerlin 2 years ago

    Hi thanks for the list, i just learned about noodling though and I think it might help me in the long run, learning scale combos and building riffs . You brought the issue to my attention, that it can hinder you if you’re not careful so thanks for that. I will make sure not to noodle in front of people lol. Playing along with new songs and transcribing them the mornings is my major takeaway, I’m tired of muscle memory licks.. thanks again :)

  • Rob Uttley
    Rob Uttley 2 years ago

    If my reverb sounded that nice, I'd probably struggle to turn it back off too. But point totally taken (my noodling is awful, I really need to learn new stuff and challenge myself).
    Great video, thought provoking!

  • fvds72
    fvds72 2 years ago +1

    A question: I am practicing a solo for more than 3 weeks and is practically the only thing I am playing at the moment. I am able to play the solo at 60% of the actual speed. What is wiser in your opinion: Keep doing that till I reach 100%, or start practicing other stuff and pick it up again after a while?

  • Joe Garrison
    Joe Garrison 2 years ago +473

    "Noodling is the act of playing, but you're not actually playing anything"
    I've never felt so called out

    • Big Dave
      Big Dave Year ago

      Yeah because he’s wrong

    • A. R.
      A. R. Year ago

      @jenk264 That's when you have a goal in mind.

    • jenk264
      jenk264 Year ago

      I thought was called writing and improvising?

    • A. R.
      A. R. Year ago +2

      I just want to be a better noodler.

    • Pure peppered Chicken relish
      Pure peppered Chicken relish 2 years ago

      That’s why loop pedals are good I helps with timing chord progression and a lot more honestly I’ve been playing for about 15 years and I think noodling is good in the right context

  • Tony Gairo Music
    Tony Gairo Music 2 years ago

    Thank you for these well-thought-out, thoroughly prepared videos. I learn something from every, single one.

  • Ivor Thomas
    Ivor Thomas 2 years ago

    Great stuff here Rhett. I'm susceptible to all of that too and I'm esp working on getting that floating picking hand working. This was made really clear to me when I sold a really good Strat because I couldn't get my anchored palm away from the vol knob and trem. The problem is me, not the guitar. It's coming along and the benefits of being able to comfortably play up by the neck pickup are obvious. BTW I ended up with another Strat. LOL.

  • Dan Nobles
    Dan Nobles 2 years ago

    I very much appreciate your honesty and humility. Thank you for the inspiration!

  • pickinstone
    pickinstone 2 years ago

    Wow, I thought I was the only one left who was advocating for a floating picking right hand. I touch the strings gently with my knuckles, but I float my hand--and play a combination of forearm rotation, vertical arm movement, and thumb/ pointer. I've found that my tone improved when I started floating my hand--especially when I play my archtop.
    In terms of breaking your own habits, get into composing your own etudes. Set some limits over a song and write out a solo using those limitations. They could be melodic, rhythmic, or harmonic limitations. In terms of actually improvising, an idea that I got from a saxophone player I took some lessons from was to hold onto the phrase that you just played in your head while you play the next phrase. The better you get at holding on to your phrases, the more compositional control you have over your solo because you end of linking everything together in ways that couldn't happen if you were only listening to what you are playing in the moment. It's like listening to the past and the present simultaneously--odd, but really cool once you get it.
    And ear training, the top musicians in the "jazz realm" (I know this post already sounds pompos as hell, and coming from a jazz perspective might be the nail in the coffin--it's all music in the end, right?) are always talking about ear training and improving their ears. At the end of the day, what you are able to hear is more powerful than how fast your fingers can move when you play music based in improvisation (be it rock, blues, bluegrass, jazz, or composing classical music--Bach was a master improviser).
    Long post, but if you made it to the end without labeling me as a pompos arse--I give you my thanks:) As Clark Terry once said "keep on keeping on!" and be safe out there!

  • deMarcGuitars
    deMarcGuitars 2 years ago

    Nice video , to me this video is the second part to the limitations video i think you might have changed the name since ... But i agree with you on all counts , and admire the wisdom that enables you to see your own limits , its the only way overcome them . I played 25 years looking at others showing me how they do it , i guess success leads to emulation but at some point i need to show how i do it . Why do we play music ? there are many reasons , mainly money . But really so that people can dance . The ultimate test is can you make people dance with your instrument alone no gimmicks drum machine or loops .

  • Skyn E. Vader
    Skyn E. Vader 2 years ago +1

    Had to subscribe due to your honesty about your own playing. Keep it up and thank you.

  • Pikiao
    Pikiao 2 years ago

    Great video Rhett, I can really relate with some of these issues. I stopped playing for like 10 years because I couldn't move past what I had learnt and the repetition just killed the passion of playing guitar.

  • btcruiser
    btcruiser Year ago

    I've played acoustic guitar for most of my playing life. I picked up an electric guitar about 10 years ago and frustratingly found that good habits on the electric side (especially the fret board hand) are bad habits on the acoustic side *sigh*

  • Jonathan Das
    Jonathan Das 2 years ago

    Rhett, I want to thank you for making this video, not for only these tips but for leading me to a gold mine by the name of Tom Bukovac! I really can't thank you enough. His stuff is eye-opening!

  • Cameron Walsh
    Cameron Walsh 2 years ago +2

    Sweet video Rhett. I like how you aimed this video at yourself for the benefit of your viewers. There are other videos where it feels like the Clip-Sharer is just enjoying sitting on their high horse telling their watchers what they're doing wrong. I tend to noodle a lot when I'm at home, some great topics here for us to be a little more mindful of. Play on

  • Akinitos
    Akinitos 2 years ago

    When I first started, all I was learning was basically cowboy chords, and now I’m trying to learn all the drop D chords(I find that style better) anyway, I was learning basic chords. G, A, E(Em) C, etc. For the first like, 2 months of playing, I didn’t even know you were supposed to press the strings, I always thought you just held them. I would always get so frustrated that I couldn’t get a different sound on an Em and a Cmaj. Now I know of course, but I cringe when I look back.

  • Sons of The Dragon
    Sons of The Dragon 2 years ago

    This is a very good video and hits home for me because at some time or another, I've had each one of these bad habits at some point in my musical career.
    There are a lot of fixes for these and you named some good ones for each habit.
    One thing that helped me was learning how to play the different modes of scales; not just pentatonic which is the one we can easily get "stuck in a rut" with.
    Another way of developing good picking is learning to use the slanted pic method and try to incorporate some sweeping as well.
    As for noodling, I still have that bad habit. I think that I start doing it when I get bored.
    That's when I need to put the guitar down for a few hours and come back with something fresh.

  • RC32
    RC32 2 years ago +29

    We are all easily guilty of making bad habits. It's all a matter of knowing how it'll negatively affect you in the long run. Glad to see you really admitting and changing, that is the most important part in my opinion.

  • Antoni Peters
    Antoni Peters 2 years ago

    Hi Rhett, always enjoy your videos and your technical advice.
    Really like your playing style and also like the varied topics you cover in your videos.
    Recently I discovered this very young and very impressive Italian guitarist Matteo Mancuso, and the trio called SNIPS.
    Wonder if you are familiar with him/them. I was pretty much blown away.
    If you are familiar, wonder what you think? If not, I encourage you to take a look.
    Peace! Out. Ant

  • Billy Carter
    Billy Carter 2 years ago

    I fit into every habit...being a self taught player myself. Thanks for sharing

  • Parker B
    Parker B 2 years ago

    Love your vids along with all the other guys like Baker ECT. Thanks for giving the shout to the session man he deserves it. His golden nuggets are priceless , it's wonderful for this new generation.

  • John McArthur
    John McArthur 2 years ago

    I love all of your videos Rhett, but this has been the most informative and helpful for my development as a guitar player. Thanks for uploading man!

  • Aske Høi Krogh
    Aske Høi Krogh 2 years ago +4

    Hey Rhett. Love your stuff! I've started recording at home in these Corona Virus times, and I've already learned that it can be a MESS. Especially to get the basics down. I would love to see how YOU record at home, tips and tricks, mic up amps, how to equalize guitartones etc. I really dig your tone on the instrumental intros and live sound! Just a idea for quarantine videos!
    Keep it up!

  • Jeff Carter
    Jeff Carter 2 years ago

    Thanks, Rhett! Accurate to the point of embarrassing! I've been transcribing solos from other instruments to break out of the guitar pattern licks I default to. It also forces me to work out the phrases and transition between phrases in multiple positions to find the best fingerings.

  • Big Kick LEO
    Big Kick LEO 2 years ago +2

    As a working/ gigging drummer (52yrs old): I applaud you!! Played SOOOO many gigs with young players and NOODLING at check or between songs or takes is THE. ABSOLUTE. WORST. distraction, unconstructive and unproductive thing. Ever. Again - THANK YOU!! 👊🦁

  • Dallas A
    Dallas A Year ago

    Great video Rhett!
    I found myself out of the resting my hand on the bridge early on in my learning when i got my first floyd rose floating bridge, i found i was changing the pitch by putting weight on the bridge and bumping the fine tuners constantly and putting the guitar out of tune
    Keep the awesome work with your channel!

  • Tom Urben
    Tom Urben 2 years ago

    I find noodling a great way to imprint scales in my head, free flowing up and down the fret board helps a lot more than usual scale practice

  • BeepBoop83
    BeepBoop83 2 years ago +9

    It's refreshing that you are a player and storyteller that takes the humble approach of framing these kinds of videos in terms of YOUR OWN habits. It gets pretty tiresome to see some of the other guitarists out there acting like they have THE method and shove these "TOP FIVE HABITS EVERY GUITARIST NEEDS TO HAVE." and then fire off some projected form of lukewarm advice disembodied from the story of WHY they became bad habits. It's really nice to see you explaining a little bit about how you identified some of the areas you wanted to improve. I think that methodology is hugely valuable and it's a little bit nicer to watch as a fellow player.

  • Michael R
    Michael R 2 years ago

    Great video, RS. Inspiring me to be more mindful when I pick up my guitar.

  • Manuel Etter
    Manuel Etter 2 years ago

    I just learned that I play a particular part better and more consistent with my hand floating. Thank you for giving me something effective to focus on!

  • Jed schleisner
    Jed schleisner 2 years ago

    Great video! I feel like you hit the nail on the head, I’m so busted. I get organized and learn a new song and then the bad habits creep back in. I decided to not play leads anymore and just work songs and fills, will see how long that lasts. Thanks Rett

  • ChuckMusic
    ChuckMusic 2 years ago +1

    I'd be interested to know what Troy Grady thinks about the floating picking hand thingy. I wouldn't agree that this is bad habit. Like, at all. Unless you're playing chords or a really slow line

  • Steve Lankford
    Steve Lankford 2 years ago

    I had to laugh at some of those frustrations😖 Although I’m nowhere near your level I love learning guitar and practice everyday 🧐 But I have plenty of my own frustrations in my process🤬 Thanks for sharing your thoughts and tips on improving the skill✌️

  • Anthony Mace
    Anthony Mace 8 months ago

    This video speaks to me so much! Man thank you for sharing this. I guess as guitarists it’s mostly a solitary activity, and knowing that you and possibly countless other guitarist struggle with the same ruts as I do. Thanks for sharing mate 👍

  • gyefinger
    gyefinger 2 years ago

    The difference between an effect and a special defect is the mix of that effect...a little goes a long way. Using an expression pedal to add just enough for particular moments has worked very well for me. The ability to go dry or throw a nice slight delay/reverb or drown on an end note is great.

  • Spartan
    Spartan 2 years ago

    Honestly, I went into this with a negative outlook. I am stubborn when it comes to listening to these types of advice videos. I only disagreed withe one thing in this video, but I'm going to do it all anyway. I have to stay humble, listen, and learn. But the most important thing for me to keep growing, is to try new things, and see if they help me (even if I don't want to do it). Time to expand the catalog. Thank you for this video.

  • Les Harrison
    Les Harrison 2 years ago

    Thanks for this video, Rhett. I feel exposed by Buk as a hack guitarist. It is comforting that accomplished people like you, Robert Baker, and others feel humbled by his playing and are trying to improve. That can only be good. This honesty and vulnerability is appreciated. Thanks for moving from frustration to solutions. Still, be kind to yourself. You rock. Thank you. Stay well!

  • Patrick Beach
    Patrick Beach 2 years ago

    I love the Jam Tracks Pete Honore is doing from Andertons...he plays chord progressions and shapes that I don't use so it makes me play out of my comfort zone! Great video Rhett!

  • LawGone1
    LawGone1 2 years ago

    Seriously, really great video. As usual.
    Keep up the solid work Shully.

  • Headspace
    Headspace Year ago

    I’m a bass player and it was interesting watching this video. My practice consists of hearing songs that I like and thinking to myself I’m gonna learn that song, so now I have 60+ songs that I play all the time and the songs will be picking styles, finger styles, rock styles, syncopation, and so on even if I have my bass around my shoulders and a commercial comes on and there’s an interesting bassline I’ll follow it or ad lib.
    I do have a bad habit that I tap my strings to keep in time and it sounds like a clip John Mayer used to hate himself for doing the same thing.

  • AJ Bueno
    AJ Bueno 2 years ago +151

    Noodling is not a bad habit. I have developed my own creative licks that other players ask me about through noodling around. Most songs we listen came from noodling
    Imagine this: all guitar players locked themselves in a room with a guitar and amp and paper and no videos or songs at all, no music influences, just you and the instrument (guitar). No tabs or sheet music. There would be an explosion of creative material. The problem is is that guitar isn’t progressing very fast because we are all playing like each other and practicing being each other....noodling can help break out of the mold and look at your instrument (guitar) in a different way.

    • James W
      James W 2 years ago

      That’s pretty much what he said. If you’re noodling, stop...and make something out of it. The point is to not just noodle endlessly without making something from it.

    • Jamsville
      Jamsville 2 years ago

      I would say that you’re actually talking about improvising. Noodling is playing the same stuff you are comfortable with over and over aimlessly.

    • Henrik Jensen
      Henrik Jensen 2 years ago

      I think you and Rhett think of noodling in two different ways. He looks as it as a repetitive, stale fallback mode void of creativity. You see it as a means of exploration. Your case should, of course, be one to strive for, while what Rhett is talking about is to be avoided.

    • Jeff A. Taylor
      Jeff A. Taylor 2 years ago

      I initially was with Rhett on rote blues box or scale wanking. But you just can't always play with a "complete musical idea" in mind, although I understand why a top session player would take that approach. They need several different widgets to whip out on demand to see which one fits someone else's project. Real skill, real talent involved. Top level stuff. To max out YOUR creativity tho, you'll have to occasionally just go.

    • Zach Vargas
      Zach Vargas 2 years ago

      AJ Bueno he starts talking about this around 5 min mark... the noodling he is talking about is not creative and progressive it’s more of “flat in the meadow on repeat same things” that you have learned that sound nice but it’s like your crutch you go back to, he says add chords to what your playing and start playing in time teaching you to not just jam by yourself but w others. I don’t know about you but I come up w some pretty nice licks and progressions but they are not always in time lol so translating that over to play w others doesn’t come out right

  • palmyrah
    palmyrah 2 years ago

    Great video. I have struggled with all these problems except #5. That's how I peactice: I learn stuff.

  • William Weller
    William Weller 2 years ago

    This video is comforting. Thank you for letting me know I am not the only one facing these struggles. Pretty much every bad habit you listed I am guilty of.

  • Brandon Dixon
    Brandon Dixon 2 years ago

    Great video, Rhett. You hit all the nails on their heads with this one. I’m sitting at work right now going, “Dammit, I do that....and that.....and that.” Definitely going to go home, unplug some effects and jam with some of my favorite songs. And try not to noodle over them...

  • Timothy's Witan
    Timothy's Witan 2 years ago

    learning classical piano helped so much with improv. Before every lick, you need to consider the phrasing for the whole 4 or 5 bars forward. Counterpoints, modal changes, etc should be considered every time.

  • orry Fishburne
    orry Fishburne 2 years ago +26

    I am also a self taught musician and I do every single one of those bad habits besides the anchored palm. The noodling and reverb are my biggest bad habits.

    • Den Don
      Den Don 2 years ago

      @Sunset Junior Correct. Noodling is completely OK. Don't let this video dissuade you from doing it.

    • Sunset Junior
      Sunset Junior 2 years ago

      nope, they might be your best, most enjoyed habits. if it feels good, do it.