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holy shit i was before the pinned comment
Wolfey, not sure if this is a spoiler, finish the dex as early as you can. I think glimmering charm is kind of a big help.
Only waych a few minutes in. Wish u did ur research cuz things you should have def. Mentioned. Like hospitality works once. And dipplin can use eviolite.
Applin can hold an eviolite
Fun fact: Dipplin can hold the eviolite, which takes it’s defences higher than appletun, which does also mean it will evolve next dlc, which might make it actually viable and not a gimmick
I heard about this, but does it actually work this way in-game right now or was it something dataminers found in the files to be eventually implemented with the Indigo Disk?
@Earthbornit works in game iirc
I'm really looking forwar to this, but at the same time it's kinda unfair to appletun and flapple. if it does get an evolution, I hope future games can also give these two an evolution too.
does this work on pokemon showdown? PLEASE TELL ME IT DOES
@PhoenixGamerHDYES
2:49 Yes Matcha Gotcha hits both opposing Pokémon, has a 20% chance to burn each target and heals 50% of the damage dealt. Incredibly strong move!
whats even better is later in the video theres a clip at 28:00 showing it as a spread move
It’s basically scaled and giga drain but it hits all enemies
@Howling MoMoat 3:17 he USES FOOTAGE of it hitting both
@bruce potteraudio recorded before footage.
Basically heals 100% on 2 targets
The apple being competitively viable is crazy
The issue with applin is that it's got the Zac/Zam treatment
Hes dipplin into the competitive scene! (Pun intended)
Dipplen is most likely gonna get a evolution too which is even more crazy (if your confused, it's been discovered that dipplen can use a evolite and there is a empty spot where dex number is)
Dripplin
It’s actually able to use the eviolit
Ursaluna’s new ability is just “I can hit anything” and that’s kind of insane
Definitely seems like it was balanced as a story mode boss first and foremost
Chaos Chaos
To be fair, it is basically Scrappy + Keen Eye, which is nice. But nothing crazy. You don't gain accuracy on your lower accuracy moves as far as I know. You just ignore stuff like double team and you are immune to sand attack.
@GreyVictory1510
The ability to hit ghost types with fighting and normal moves more than makes up for it though.
@GreyVictory1510but also to be fair, they could have just given it either keen eye or scrappy, with scrappy of course as the base story ability, rather than a combo of both. I like it personally, but it is kinda weird to combine abilities like that on a single mon (outside of like, horse+onion-head)
You forgot something massive about Sinistcha. It get imprison. afaik the combination of imprison and rage powder on a Pokémon is exclusive only to Sinistcha. This means that it can stop amoonguss' redirection, making it much less of a factor in battles. It also gets life dew, in case Hospitality and matcha gotcha weren't enough health.
Oh wow, that’s interesting. Could use it as a trick room/imprison Mon with rage powder and either Matcha Gatcha or Shadow Ball.
Sinistcha is a fucking insane support pokemon
Sinistcha has mad 4 move slot syndrome.
The Chad Sinistcha set:
Sinistcha @ Leftovers
Ability: Hospitality
- Matcha Gotcha
- Strength Sap
- Life Dew
- Grassy Terrain
My team will be healed whether you like it or not. My man’s is a walking hospital
@SnailmixI would even go as far as to say you can swap out grassy terrain for something else and just run it with rillaboom. However depending on the meta maybe those two on the same team might not be good
Some other things that I want to add
- Matcha Gotcha is a spread move (hits both opponents) and has a 20% chance to burn.
- Dipplin is affected by Evolite so we know it has an evo in the upcoming DLC. But still for now it can run Evolite to bump up it’s defenses
- Should be somewhat obvious but Ogerpon’s Tera type cannot be changed - it’s locked into whatever type it’s mask gives (base form Teal Mask being Grass btw)
- Embody Aspect triggers on switch in. Yes, like last Gen’s intrepid sword/shield. If you have Zacian flashbacks, I’m sorry.
- Most importantly, it’s been researched that any of Ogerpon’s masks gives a 1.2x boost to **all** of it’s moves. Basically it has a Griseous Orb in it’s item slot that works in all of its moves.
I did not know about the last one
Ogerpon's masks are a lot better because Giratina can't be in origin form and hold the griseous orb anymore, the most unnecessary nerf ever made
@Xavier Wardthe Griseous Core gives the same Ghost/Dragon boost that the Griseous Orb does. Same with the Adamant Crystal and Lustrous Globe
The last two are very interesting
The fact that it gets a 1.2x boost to its moves is a game changer for me. I was worried that because it had to hold its mask that you were effectively losing the held item but since it gives it a boost that's so worth it now!
8:46 Dipplin can actually hold the Eviolite, meaning you don’t have to stay with just attacking moves, but also it buffs defense to
Is that actually true? If so, GF either messed up code some way, or there’s a planned evolution for Dipplin that dataminers never found coming in the Indigo Disk or something. If anything, I’m assuming that it’s just a bug.
@Twilight Chomper Enthusiastin the code there’s an empty slot right after dipplin showing that there noght be an evo
@ScreamingRain That’s interesting! Now I’m hoping that the other two get evos, but they got gigantimaxes. But who knows? Duraludon got one…
@Twilight Chomper Enthusiast duraludon can gmax yet it can evolve
Unlike megas, gmaxs arent a seal that cant be broken for a pokemon evolving
@User I mean at this point megas probably aren't a seal for anyone getting an evo either. They've just yet to feel the desire to give a new evo to one.
Ogerpon also gets a 1.2x multiplier on it's attacks when using the fire, water and rock masks, as compensation for locking you into an item where the grass mask doesnt
yeah I think in terms of the damage output you can achieve with the grass mask its probably the best one for that role. Given it can benefit from its mask still while also holding an item gives it a massive boost and with the right set up can turn it into a horrifying sweeper
Outside of terastalization?
@Eugene Marshallyeah all moves get boosted even without tera
@mr fish Why?!
@Eugene Marshall cause you are locked into an item using any of the mask
Bloodmoon Ursaluna can learn vacuum wave, a fighting type priority move, that can hit ghost types like Gholdengo for super effective which is pretty good for a slow pokemon.
In my opinion, this would be the reason for Bloodmoon Ursaluna to be more viable than regular ones. Cause it can at least still do sth out of trick room
Crazy happy to see Vacuum Wave as a TM. :)
Due to data mining and testing with evolite, it appears that Dippin will have an evolution. That's probably why its stats are ok at best
It literally has the same BST as the other Applin evos.
@Leavanny Gamingthe spread is subpar though
@Will Of course it is. It's covered in syrup.
I can see how this correlates to Dipplin being Kieran's Ace Pokémon who (spoilers)
may take an antagonist role in *The Indigo Disk.*
that's true, but right now in game eviolite already works, all but guaranteeing an upcoming evolution@Leavanny Gaming
Matcha Gotcha does hit both opponents, source : playing on casual ladder and getting hit by it
Can someone get this comment higher up for everyone to see. It’s important info
Also would like to confirm that it hits multiple, this time from a Tera Raid- and it heals 4 times when it does hit all 4
@Sparx the Heliolisknah I think its only hitting the raid boss, but because it has such a high health pool you are getting much more recovery.
Regardless, it is a spread move for certain.
Edit: nvm I realized you were saying when it is the boss. Dang that sounds impossible to kill lol
@Trever Leachthe worst part of raid Sinistcha using it is that the animations take so long I actually lost when it had like 1% because it took 45 seconds to do the animations for Matcha Gotcha for both its turns and time ran out lmao
@treverleach19 looks like the matcha gotcha and yes it hits both opponents
I want to add a few things
Sinischa's second ability is Heatproof, making it's fire weakness a neutral move. It should be used in singles
I think the rock mask on Ogerpon is actually good. Rock type moves are kinda scary with how effective they can be at hitting things hard, and it's signature move is basically a stone edge, with 100% accuracy on a Pokémon as fast as Lycanroc. Take that as you will
Update: So it's just been brought into light, but Ogerpon's masks that are needed to change forms have been confirmed to grant a 20% power boost to all attacks, meaning it hits even harder with attacks. Yep
Gotta remember that rock mask has the same type as Cradily, a Pokemon that, all things considered, is a lot better than just looking at its typings seperately would have you guess.
I heard Dipplin can hold Eviolite, and if so, that's insane
This is true
@jahnavivalleru Placing all bets, coding error, spoiler or both.
That's insane add stell tera on top to resist a ton of types you are good
@TheBTits a Spoiler.
The Index skips a slot after it.
@AmatsuoYeah too specific to be a bug.
New Pokemon talked about
Sinistcha 0:15
Dipplin 5:19
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon 9:21
Toxic Chain Intro 14:36
Okidogi 14:53
Munkidori 16:57
Fezandipiti 20:03
Ogerpon 23:28
our hero
Yes. Pin this plz
Some notes on the first 3.
1) Matcha Gotcha is a spread move and it’s 20% burn on each target.
2) Diplin can use Evolite, making it one of the bulkest Pokémon around.
3) BM Ursaluna also gets Moonlight, so you can run a bulky set to make it a hard hitting tank and heal yourself up when you’re low. It’s basically if Snorlax was a special attacker, got more stats, and was given a second type.
I swear to god if the Dipplin evo is named Tripplin I’m gonna do a backflip. Mark my words.
I'm hoping it's called Double Dripplin.
Hold up you’re onto something
we need your clip then, or it never happened. :D
i believe you man
my money’s on dripplin because it means like triple but also has drip
in it like how dippin means double but also dip
Correction: Rage Poweder is not grass type. Amoongus is grass type but the move itself is bug type.
Thought that was pollen puff that was bug type maybe I got them confused
both are@SCP-Phenomenon
On the topic of Dipplin, I think it's worth mentioning that Dipplin actually works with the Eviolite which adds a ton of bulk on top of the already decent defenses
One important thing missing, ogerpon apparently gets an around 20% hidden boost to all of its attacks when it's wearing a mask, meaning the fire mask is probably the best moveset
Polchagiest evo has a lot of potential from what I can tell. Ive only used it on my playthrough but still it seems incredibly good for doubles. Its ability and move set are solid. I hope its good.
That thing is an annoying pos in Raids (as the raid mon), matcha gotcha being spread recovery makes it eat up SOOO much time whenever it uses it cause for some reason you are required to sit through every single recovery while being unable to select an action
@Roflmao6173this is basically my no.1 complaint of raids in general. So much stuff can eat up the timer while I can do nothing
Shell bell, pop bomb maushold ftw
It has a ton going for it.
-Heals on Switch-in, meaning it can be an amazing support pivot with pokemon like Lando.
-Learns life Dew, meaning it can heal its teammate even more.
-Heals itself and weakens enemies with Strength Sap.
-Can heal itself and burn two enemies with Matcha Gotcha.
Honestly, I'm excited for thsi pokemon. If it had just a bit of bulk, it could be downright overwhelming.
One thing to note about Dipplin: People did some testing and it turns out an eviolite works on it, implying that it will get an evolution in the next DLC. This lines up with the datamine that shows that there's an empty space in the dex between Dipplin and the next pokemon. We probably haven't seen the line's full potential yet.
Dipplin becomes more viable while holding an Eviolite (yes, it works) - it allows Dipplin to run status support, which synergizes well with its natural immunity to spore and powder moves
I wonder how good Dipplin evo will be in the next DLC
Dripplin is going to evolve, and I'm going to love it
I wonder if it will be a syrupy flapple & appletun fusion.
@Amatsuo It is technically two of the little wyrm creatures in one apple, so that is very possible!
“Dipplin”*
@Quaxsuke HigashiKata Dripplin
Wolfey as always brings us high quality content
Glazing
I really like seeing a bird that's not a flying type. Gives a little variance
Fezandipiti also gets access to Dual Wingbeat and Tail Slap which have a chance to activate Toxic Chain with each hit, and I think it's kinda dope
It's worth mentioning for dipplin that it's been confirmed to get an evolution in the next dlc because eviolite works on it which would make it actually really bulky
Not only does Matcha Gotcha deal damage to both Pokemon but it also thaws you out of being Frozen!
Considering what happened in the last regionals, this is comedically relevant.
Huh? I thought it thaws target not user
@Miffed Kitten Certain moves thaw user. Scald did in previous gens, so Green Tea Scald thawing isn't really surprising.
What the heck is matcha anyway?
tea
just an FYI for anyone wondering, Dipplins ability essentially multiplies accuracy by (4/3). For example it would change Hypnosis from 60% to 80% accuracy
thing to note is that Ursa Bloodmoon learns Vacuum Wave, so it can use priority to hit most things for decent damage, even against ghosts due to Mind's Eye. This can effectively allow it to hit things even without trickroom. Issue is, is it worth it for your 4th move?
Also the fairy/poison mon I've surprised that wasn't mentioned was that it learns beat up. Beat up with Toxic Chain increases the chance of badly poisoning a opposing pokemon
Wolfey forgot to mention that even though Bloodmoon Ursaluna has a lower special attack than regular Ursaluna’s physical attack, it can’t be slowed down by intimidate which is pretty big.
And if Neutralizing Gas Weezing comes in, it isn't immediately declawed without it's ability.
im not a competitive pokemon player but i love seeing your videos too how complex pokemon can really be. keep up the great work
I think a video going over the returning moves and who gets them would also be pretty cool
Just wondering but do you think safeguard might see some usage with the introduction of the loyal three and toxic chain? It just seems like a possible way of shutting down one of their abilities
Im really looking forward to how the new mons play out. I feel like Dripplin will have some really good use in making other pokemon far more potent, such as Maushold. Guaranteed 10 hit Popbomb doesnt seem like something that should be slept on. Especially if you can actually use eviolite on it like a lot of people are saying. To me it seems like a very unorthodox support mon that will fly under thr radar until someone uses it in a way we don't expect
Ogerpon also gets a 20% damage boost to all moves when wearing one of the 3 masks
The cool thing going for Munkidori is fake out + chance of poison, so that's cool.
Edit: Fezandipiti getting Icy wind + poison chance is crazy
We love you wolf! You are so informative and entertaining
I would love to see a video were Wolfey only uses new DLC pokemon on a team. With mons like Sinistcha and Dipplin, I feel like Wolfey could get more success with them than most.
A healing spread move with Calm mind and 20% burn chance is terrifying
I'm excited for sinistcha and fezendipiti, especially since it learns a bunch of moves that hit multiple target like dazzling gleam and heat wave and icy wind
It's important to note that for some reason, Dipplin can use an eviolite
That's because it will evolve in dlc 2
@WillInto TRIPPLIN
(This is just a name idea, not a confirmed name)
Fun fact about Syrup Bomb, it is one of the few moves this gen whose appereance changes if the user is Shiny, as it will shoot yellow syrup, but that's not all, the speed reducing effect visual of the move will also be yellow.
Also keep in mind that standard Grass Ogerpon can use any item she wants. She doesn't have to waste the slot on on a mask. Like the Fire one is pretty good with Moldbreaker for example but really wants to hold boots but can't and thus gets stealth rocked hard.
some missed things: ogerpon gets super power not cc, so not as good. also he apparently gets a 1.2x multiplier to his attack stat when holding either of the 4 masks. this is why i enjoy the rock form because having a broken rock move is actually really good
Hospitality is one of those abilities where if its not surprisingly good its totally useless, so here's hoping Sinistcha is the only mon who gets it as the generations go on
Id like to mention some more info on Matcha Gotcha
1. Its burn chance is 20%, so not as bad as scald but the healing makes up
2. Its also a "bullet" move, meaning bulletproof Pokemon (like Kommo-O or even Ursaluna) are safe
I’ve heard that the Eviolite works on Dipplin which means there’s a high chance of it evolving next DLC.
Ogerpon has a lot going on, can't wait to see what people are coming up for it, who knows maybe someone will make a competitive rock type Ogerpon
One thing that has me excited about Ogerpon is that it's stats are good, so we are gonna be seeing it a lot anyway, but with its masks changing so much and all (but rock really) being strong in their own ways means that Ogerpon will probably be one of the most flexible pokemon in top level of play that we see
What about hitting your other Pokemon with a Syrup Bomb in a Trick Room setting? I guess it would be mostly useful vs another Trick Room team, but you could use it on a Pokemon that's really on the edge of being a good Trick Room Pokemon, but its speed is higher than you'd prefer.
Just as a note, Sinistcha also has the hidden ability "Heatproof". That may be less interesting than hospitality but it certainly isn't a bad second option. Also, if I'm slotting a Poison/Fairy type mon on my team it is 100% always going to be Galarian Wheezing.
6:49 should have been noted that Dipplin's stats are so low because it will get another evolution in Indigo Disk (it currently can use Eviolite).
the ogerpons are actually incredible
I have yet to play this gen, but I'm still watching Wolfey explain everything. :) Keep it up!
Ogerpon is awesome, such a fun design and I'm so glad they didn't just give it INSANE stats--great stats yes, but nothing that makes it too crazy. It has so many tools, and can be played so many ways! Just wish each game had more than 1 in it.
This video (through Patreon or just on the main channel) makes me really want to see Wolfey go more in-depth on certain Pokemon, meta or otherwise
a combo I'm actually really curious about the effectiveness of is using syrup bomb on your own ursaluna for trick room, like a speed version of that annihilape population bomb strat
Personally i think alot of them can be more usefull but they will get nerfed or buffed in the later dlc
ive been testing a bulkier setup on the fire type ogerpon with icy wind and trick room support for speed control, and it can live some pretty surprising things with some investment in the right spots. And the attack boost on tera along with the mask itself giving 1.2x damage means its not weak by any means which I like personally for the teams I end up building.
Something missed about dipplin is that in game it gets a buff from eviolite. This was tested and from datamines it has a possible evolution in its dex so it seems to all point towards an evolution but for now having eviolite is nice
Ogerpon is cute, so I'm glad it has so much versatility and such good stats and movepool. The other new one I was hoping good things for is Fezindipity, so hearing it could be pretty solid and the best of it's trio really makes me excited to see it in competitive
dipplin is really good support with his ability being essentially evasiveness intimidate, a signature move that lowers speed for three turns, and being awsome looking.
I think running rock type with SD Tera to get the Def boost and have ttar to set up sand sounds like a fun team
Some *important* notes:
Macha Gotcha hits both targets, with around 20% burn chance.
Dipplin CAN run eviolite.
Each mask held by Ogerpon boosts all attacks 1.2 times(as much as expert belt without having it be super effective).
Okidogi gets snarl which can be very big.
The fact Dipplin is bassically confirmed to evolve since Eviolite works means its defense stats are gonna go even higher
Hope to see another video about the new abilities, and moves pokemon got
Im pretty sure green mask ogerpon can hold a item so if ur going for a attack set you can run green mask ivy cudgel and sweep without needing much setup
Idk if its already mentioned or not but Weavile (and most likely Sneasel) can learn Knock Off now thanks to it being a TM. I didn't teach it Knock Off but did see Can Learn under it
Matcha Gotcha hits multiple targets, atleast that is what I have seen in raids against it. Also I think Dipplin can also use Eviolite, so its bulk can be a bit more also we might get an evolution later
fun fact:
ingame Shiinotic is actually listed as a Mythical right now due to it's JP name being similar to Marshadow's JP name.
also Okidogi just comes off to me as, Green Dog Incineroar designwise, idk why
He reminds me of tony the tiger. Theyre Grrific.
I'm interested in ago the new grass Pokémon. The others I just want a viable strategy to counter.
I am going to get the DLC at the end of October at the latest and I'm am excited to try blood moon Ursaluna because it's like ursaluna, which I already love, but a better special attacking version that looks sick, so hyped. :)
I like how when you were talking about Follow Me on Ogerpon and how good the move is, the replays shown in the background are two situations where Follow Me was used and functionally was completely useless.
a team idea that i think could be good is fezandipiti with dazzling gleam and icy wind, with gothitelle next to it with heal pulse. shadow tag and toxic chain could have really good synergy. (edit- i just tested it on showdown and got a forfeit)
I find it very interesting that the only two non-legendary Pokémon they've introduced in wave 1 of the DLC are both clearly geared towards double battles.
I feel like the meta will require each team to have a Pokémon with gastro acid if blood moon ursaluna becomes dominant, which can be a problem as it wastes a spot for a move / Pokémon.
I’ve been having a lot of fun with a core of hearthflame ogerpon, clefairy and empoleon (who finally gets competitive instead of defiant). Experimenting with the last three, but kommo-o has been working well with life dew clefairy
We need in depth analysis of ogerpon! It seems so versatile and customizable!
will you talk about the returning pokemon? especially with Empoleon getting Competitive and Shiftry getting Wind Rider, im sure there are a bunch of other returning pokemon getting new abilities or moves
What if you use Dipplin to lower your own pokemon speed in trick room team?
I think the biggest omission that hasn’t already been brought up is that Ogerpon gets Encore. Makes the support variant that much scarier
This is actually a great video for someone like me who doesn't play the game anymore but still curious on what's new.
I'm surprised there was no comment about the combination of Toxic Chain and Beat Up on Fezandipity. In any format, having so many different instances of damage means that with a 30% chance to Toxic with it's ability, you're almost guaranteed to put any target you want on a timer.
Add kings rock, and gives it a good flinch chance.
If you’re able to get the setup, running scope lens + focus energy on the grass ogerpon makes ivy cudgel crit every time. I’m experimenting without scope lens cause of knock off but if you’re able to get up grassy terrain with rillaboom or bring out a chien pao, I was able to one shot many mons that resist grass with adamant max attack ogerpon.
Yoooo, really love the production on this one! It feels like the corporate feel on it has been toned down, actually reminds me somewhat of the casual chaotic vibes I came here for. Love the upgrade in production quality, keep it up!
Sinistcha also gets heat proof as hidden ability, so no longer weak to fire
The teacher who chaperones you talks about bringing terastralization to other regions with the crystals on the top of the oni mountain, with a better look attached to it like these masks replacing the crowns, would you like it to become a base game mechanic going forward?
Great video! I try to comment more and more on videos to show support!
Really good break down for me who is trying to get back into Ranked but still have not gotten the DLC myself so now I atleast know what to look out for! :)
Keep the videos coming Wolfey!
Did you know that dipplin can hold an eviolite? Apparently it’s evolution is coming sometime in the future, maybe in the indigo disk b/c it does get the correct amount of def and sp def increase from it from eviolite when holding it
Ursaluna bloodmoon can be played with 252 ev hp and defense and 4 in spécial defense with +def and - atk nature then play it Leftovers or heavy duty boots with blood moon, earth power, calm mind and moonlight along tera fairy (i use it in single and it is disgustingly good)
What you forgot to mention with the toxic chain ability that monkidori, okidogi, and fezendipiti share is that it badly poisons, not just poison meaning every move has a 30% to toxic which is really strong
Citation: fezendipiti also gets tail slap, but either it's bugged or it only works for one hit moves because ive never gotten toxic with it
I heard Dipplin can use the eviolite, so it might be a glitch but it might be because dipplin might evolve again. I don't know for sure.
Honestly i think bulky support based Ogerpon is gonna be the way to go
Dipplin probably will get an evo next dlc
I get so excited every time he uploads
Keep up the good work 💯
something deep in my brain keeps telling me that sinistcha and comfey together on a team would work very well
unkillable cleric comp incoming…
I really like your delivery in this video. in most of your videos it seems pretty clear you're reading a script, but in this one you seem more casual and coversational. I like this a lot, would like to see your other videos be like this
i think another setuo move thats super viable is focus energy given ivy cudgel will be guaranteed to crit with it.