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Why This Circle Could Spark Africa’s Biggest War

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  • Ahmed Ibrahim
    Ahmed Ibrahim 2 months ago +3167

    As an Egyptian, I am fully for the development of the world. I hope that both Egypt and Ethiopia can find a mutually beneficial resolution without hindering the development of either of the countries growth.

    • Naoli guta
      Naoli guta 2 months ago +342

      as an Ethiopian, i fully agreee with u. we ethiopians dont need another war since there already ENOUGH bloodshed going on in our country. i hope we figure things out peacefully.

    • Beruh Henok
      Beruh Henok 2 months ago +172

      As an Ethiopian, i agree. I hope our governements do not define our feelings to each other. I hope Egypt grows very well.

    • Bilal Fatouh
      Bilal Fatouh 2 months ago +20

      Wassup fellow masree

    • Darth Parallax
      Darth Parallax 2 months ago +11

      What are the most logical reasons for conflict that are not well known besides water?
      What are the most irrational reasons for conflict you are most concerned have unhealthy popular support?

  • Terra Mater
    Terra Mater 2 months ago +267

    Very informative and engaging. It's clear that water scarcity is a major issue in the region, and the potential for conflict over access to water is a cause for concern. Our film crew shed a light on the Ennedi Plateau in northeastern Chad, which is located around 1,500 kilometers to the west of the Nile. This area was once a subtropical climate with large lakes and the Yellow Nile, which was the third main tributary to the River Nile. However, the Yellow Nile has now disappeared, leaving only a few subterranean caverns filled with water, such as the Guelta of Archei. This water source is critical for thousands of camels and several animal species in the region, including the West African crocodile. That's crucial when discussing conflicts in the Nile region, as it highlights the larger issue of water scarcity in the surrounding areas. Thank you for addressing this complex topic.

    • ዘየደ ሣህለሥላሴ
      ዘየደ ሣህለሥላሴ 2 months ago +3

      90% done ✔️ more dams to come.

    • Beke mike
      Beke mike Month ago +2

      @ዘየደ ሣህለሥላሴ 5 more dams coming

    • Cat Mate
      Cat Mate Month ago

      @terramater How would you describe the security situation in Chad? Would it be safe to visit independently?

    • Sol Z
      Sol Z Month ago +3

      This is the most inconsiderate and selfish article .
      "Abay river,", including its tributary rivers, have been nurturing Egypt, for hundreds of years, with fertile soil and water. Egypt should be thankful for that.
      Now Ethiopia has completed building the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam on the Abay river,also known as Blue Nile river after it has crossed the Ethiopian border.
      . It is about time that Ethiopia begins using its own resources. Several studies on the dam have indicated that Egypt still benefits from the riiver flow. But the core of this article that circles around, "Egypt is Nile and Nile Egypt" is highly inconsiderate and selfish.

    • Betselot.A
      Betselot.A Month ago +1

      ​@Sol Z Well, and precise!❤❤

  • Shady Gouda
    Shady Gouda 8 days ago +10

    As an Egyptian, I am really impressed how clearly and unbiased you presented the facts. I am also really glad you highlighted the Tigray disaster. Western Media is acting like it does not exist, and all we ever hear about is Russia and Ukraine. While that is a disaster as well, it is absolutely dwarfed by what happened in the Tigray version in terms of misery and loss of life.
    You have my sub, good sir.

    • Xtian SELASSIE Jr
      Xtian SELASSIE Jr 5 days ago +2

      you thought Ethiopian civil war will help you but now it is Sudan next it might be Egypt.

    • Lasko Hitler
      Lasko Hitler 3 days ago

      What is your point

    • Haregwoin Metekia
      Haregwoin Metekia 2 days ago

      Tigray war is over

    • Alex Strömberg
      Alex Strömberg 11 hours ago

      Thats because war or disasters in africa is so commln place we dont care anymore

  • yeaddis leje
    yeaddis leje 5 hours ago

    Great informative video , you can also talk about Assab Port , How Ethiopia got landlocked and potential for conflict as 120M Ethiopians push for economic growth

  • Mahmoud Abdelrahim
    Mahmoud Abdelrahim 2 months ago +154

    As a Sudanese I want to add one thing. Since the filling of dam has already begun the Sudanese government will never cooperate with Egypt to strike the dam, because billions of cubic metres of water will flow through the Nile. Sudan dams are incapable of handling the massive amount of water at once, thus all the city along the nile are threatened with drowning. However, the only option for Sudan is to negotiate an agreement with Ethiopia and Egypt. In fact since 2020 Sudan has more concerns about the dam's safety than its filling.

    • Tendaji
      Tendaji Month ago +8

      Great input Brother

    • LegitBanana
      LegitBanana Month ago +8

      As an observer from the USA, I hope everything works out amicably between Sudan, Ethiopia and Egypt

    • TheSpeedsters86
      TheSpeedsters86 Month ago

      Great input

    • Lizzie's Music Making
      Lizzie's Music Making Month ago +6

      Yeah, I noticed that danger to Sudan too. And if the Aswan dam can't handle the full pulse of water from the Gerd, Egypt could have that happen there too.

    • Marcellus Wallace
      Marcellus Wallace Month ago +2

      How are you doing now with the war going on? Stay strong brother.

  • Liam1694u
    Liam1694u 2 months ago +24

    Amazing reporting! I wish more people would seek out content like this before voicing their opinions on various geopolitical conflicts and situations. A truly amazing job of laying out the facts in a clear and unbiased way. Thank you.

  • Soosh
    Soosh 2 months ago +2459

    Water conflicts are becoming increasingly common. Similar cases are happening between Turkey and Iraq with dams along the Tigris and Euphrates as well as in South & Southeast Asia where China's dams in Tibet are threatening major rivers like the Indus, Brahmaputra, Ganges & Mekong

    • John Xina
      John Xina 2 months ago +107

      Your comment is entirely correct except for the Indus. The river Indus itself and it's eastern tributaries run from India into Pakistan. For Pakistan it is India that threatens water security rather than China.

    • Chris Villagomez
      Chris Villagomez 2 months ago +94

      And even the Russians and Chinese had a dispute over water, Northern China is facing a water crisis and when Chinese companies began buying up land around Lake Baikal, the Russian government stepped in and vetoed all of them

  • Robert Gotschall
    Robert Gotschall 2 months ago +178

    A similar situation exists in the US. Much of the agricultural water for Northern Mexico, Southern California and Eastern Arizona comes from the Colorado River. Las Vegas, Nevada with 3 million inhabitants, depends on the Colorado for its existence. There are treaties in place to control this flow but have been fiercely debated since the 1940s The main problem in both regions is manic overpopulation.

    • Wildfire
      Wildfire 2 months ago +20

      And that overpopulation is exacerbated by the entire country’s compulsive obsession with unsustainable car-dependent urban sprawl that has already resulted in catastrophe and will only worsen with further expansion and population growth.
      It’s urbanization but backwards!

    • MrToradragon
      MrToradragon 2 months ago +16

      @Wildfire Cars do not consume water, i mean they have bit for cooling, but it is not consumed in gallons per day, not even per year. Main problem are large grass patches in those suburbs that require huge amounts of water each day. (Perhaps dry gardens would be better options) But even then that is not main problem. That is agriculture that is taking huge amounts of water from both rivers and aquifers.

    • Jim Baker
      Jim Baker 2 months ago +7

      Actually, the major use is alfalfa.

    • Marshmellow Moon
      Marshmellow Moon Month ago +16

      @MrToradragon they aren't talking about cars, they are talking about car-dependent URBAN SPRAWL. As in spreading out an urban area to the point that the only way to traverse it is in a car. Those large grass patches that make up large suburbs is also a part of car-dependent urban sprawl.

    • Keith
      Keith Month ago +7

      Couldn't have anything to do with farms and golf courses in a desert so rich people can be rich. Don't worry, just like when we have storms that knock out power. The citizen is expected to cut back so empty city centers can be lit up like a Christmas tree (looking at you Texas)

  • Tom Carter
    Tom Carter 2 months ago +555

    23:12 It seems like Ethiopia did actually unilaterally with their fills but, they did them in the rainy season. They did not want to slow the average water flow, but kept their excess water for themselves. that seems like a good compromise. I think as long as they do not restrict from the average flow rate, it is fair.

    • James White
      James White 2 months ago +148

      Ethiopia has the right to defer water to help devote its own country. That agreement between the UK and Egypt is not something that Ethiopia is beholden to as they did not sign on to that.

    • Nathan Levesque
      Nathan Levesque 2 months ago +72

      @James White ok but the better question is 'should they', not 'can they'

    • NF
      NF 2 months ago +27

      @James White yep, even if Egypt full on military mode, Ethiopia could simply radiate the lake supporting the Nile.

    • A2
      A2 2 months ago +42

      @Nathan Levesque Their country and can do whatever they want. Holding that water would change the future of ethiopians for the better and possibly biggest economy in africa

  • Boo Taye
    Boo Taye Month ago +18

    Thank you, for the informative analysis. As far as I know, Ethiopia uses the Blue Nile water soley to generate electricity, not for irrigation purpose. In addition it is well understood that, the dams in the Sudan and Egypt will significantly get rid of the silt being carried from the Ethiopian highlands in particular, and the other benefit can be electricity can supplied to the Sudan in particular.

  • Keith Dowsett
    Keith Dowsett 9 days ago

    This conflict has been brewing for decades. I was at a lecture in the 1980s and even then this area was highlighted as potentially the first 'water war', simply because so many people are dependent on the Nile.

  • summersaultn
    summersaultn 2 months ago +3136

    the thing is if Egypt blows up the dam, about 74 billion cubic meters of water would flood Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, and severely damage the surrounding areas.

    • Sammy JPEG
      Sammy JPEG 2 months ago +171

      Wonder what sudan would do after being flooded

    • ibrahim hassan
      ibrahim hassan 2 months ago +263

      @Sammy JPEG depends on how they react. If emotionally they'll fight against the Egyptians, if they are being logical they will firstly take any territory from Ethiopia that they had been previously disputing while they are weak and then turn on the Egyptians later in retributions if they are still feeling hurt about it or if the Egyptians don't pay reparations for the damages. I think they will forgive the Egyptians if they get a massive land grab and get compensated for the damages. That's just my theory.

    • battousai480
      battousai480 2 months ago +410

      @Sammy JPEG I doubt Sudan can do anything about it.

    • Paul Sinih
      Paul Sinih 2 months ago +202

      Let's imagine the global response to Egypt blowing up a dam on land that doesn't belong to them

  • Jasper Piek
    Jasper Piek 2 months ago +45

    I had an University project on exactly this dam in Ethiopia and wrote a story called “war on water” and found that the chance for a war on water in this century was 75 till 90%, the largest chance was, indeed on the Nile. Nice to see this video about exactly this from a channel that I watch since a long time ago

    • Crown
      Crown Month ago

      how did you determine that chance

  • Андрей Онищенко

    I respect and empathize both countries to be fair, so sad they struggle to find solution that is going to be satisfying to everyone. I honestly would even send my own money donation if it could help them develop the region and prevent the war even though I am half the world away and it won't affect me at all.

  • Henry JumboHead
    Henry JumboHead 2 months ago +77

    This is my new favorite channel on Clip-Share. Straight forward, unbiased presentation of geopolitical issues. 👏

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      billy nomates Month ago +1


    • David Crandall
      David Crandall Month ago +1

      That Tigray war sounds like it was pretty hellish. I gotta watch a video on it and thank God I wasn't a participant in it.

    • Thoticcus Prime
      Thoticcus Prime Month ago

      You're clueless

    • Henry JumboHead
      Henry JumboHead Month ago

      @Thoticcus Prime Please teach me. I’m sure you I have everything all figured out.

    ZEMTEK Month ago +4

    I side with Ethiopia since they are a completely land locked country. Ethiopia should be able to do what they need to do in their country. Both Egypt and Sudan have access to the ocean which they can desalinate. Yes desalination plants are expensive but it would also mean more jobs for the Egyptian and Sudan people. Maybe instead of buying fancy new jets from the USA and other countries Egypt should invest in desalinating water instead.

  • Alex Martin
    Alex Martin 2 months ago +940

    Very unfortunate but I find it fascinating when there's no "real" evil side in a conflict. Just two sides that want to do what would benefit them the most.

    • Frei Aber Einsam
      Frei Aber Einsam 2 months ago +130

      Yeah, that's the reality of scarcity. You won't see countries with abundant water going to war with each other over water, but having resources has always been a fundamental basis of conflict in the world's history. The thing is, war has never actually resulted in a net benefit for anybody, at any point in time -- it costs far more to wage war than the net gain of the resources obtained would provide.

    • Darral Peoples
      Darral Peoples 2 months ago +106

      There is rarely an "evil" side.

    • Zid M
      Zid M 2 months ago +78

      Ethiopia is building the dam for the development of its country, but there are many ways and many projects through which they can do so instead of threatening the lives of Egyptians and Sudanese as well and cutting off their water supply.

    • Mlg Sty
      Mlg Sty 2 months ago +4

      And that is why most of the wars happen. But in this case I dont see war happening because neither of the countries can reach other without violating another countrys zone.

    • Paul Sinih
      Paul Sinih 2 months ago +180

      @Zid M plenty of Ethiopians are dying because they don't have access to electricity, medical care, and poor infrastructure, but you've forgotten that, at the end of the day, i don't tell you what to do on your land, and you don't tell me what to do on mine . Did Egypt consult and share profits from the Aswan dam with Ethiopia? The answer is no, so you can take your hypocrisy elsewhere

  • Po Wasjington
    Po Wasjington 2 months ago +35

    It seems like this is going to be a win for Africa in the long run. Once the dam is full then Egypt should have more than sufficient water supplies. The issue is filling the dam and what effect it will have and if these countries can cooperate and trust each other. If trust and cooperation can be achieved and a suitable outcome can be reached this will be a huge achievement.

    • Tesfaye Kebede
      Tesfaye Kebede Month ago +2

      የታጠቀ ሳይሆን የሰራ ያሸንፋል።

  • Will Silvano
    Will Silvano 2 months ago +55

    I knew there was stuff being overshadowed by the war in Ukraine.. but I didn’t know it was this atrocious. Up until the last segment of this video, I held out hopes that the governments involved would retain the possibility of an amicable and joint resolution to this problem that really isn’t a problem yet… and then I saw that last segment and it seems like my hopes were pretty much dashed.

    • A A
      A A Month ago +3

      The war in Ukraine isn't "overshadowing" anything, those people in European country are dying every day. Of course it is closer to our hearts and mire important than another African conflict. That's human nature, completely normal. Also, the last time we missed the war in Europe we were almost f@cked up as a planet, so... Yeah.

    • Will Silvano
      Will Silvano Month ago +3

      @A A right. And that is a problem. “Another African conflict,” and I’ve been guilty of this too, but only recently concluded that am I supposed to accept and believe that there’s an entire continent that’s just fucked up? Nowhere else is this really the case. Sure, individual nations-states are fucked up, but rarely is the entire continent in turmoil and strife, there are always exemplary nations - those with better management or more skilled citizens or more resources or just plain better luck or contained meaningful, logical, and historically precedent borders and divisions that were carefully rested by millennia of often violent histories which eventually have led to both the peace and understanding that some regions share AS WELL AS the continued conflicts and destabilization other borders experience. Worse, Africa had its lines carelessly decided by a hubris not really seen since those times.
      Alright, my point is, we only ever hear about Africa when there is turbulence somewhere. The entire continent is not at war. Sadly, we only ever hear of Africa’s most troubling news. Or some extraordinarily heinous crimes committed by violent extremists factions. The crimes remain extraordinary because they are not the norm. I’m basically not certain of this, but I’d like to pursue this half-cocked thesis of mine. I believe, Africa is no worse off than any other continent, and it’s sheer size should warn us that sweeping generalizations about anything in Africa must also be taken with salt; because the same sweeping generalizations about small sample sizes from different shores of any other continent would not be applied to any other continent

    • Jake Deloso
      Jake Deloso 29 days ago +2

      @Will Silvano Like the video says the dam will help unite Ethiopians and be a boost to the country's economy., Electricticy can lead to more modernization especially as the world moves away from fossil fuels.
      It is not Ethiopia's falut that Egypt has had a boon in population that they cannot afford to employ. One country cannot hold off its progress while it waits for another to solve its problems.

  • Selamawit Mehabaw
    Selamawit Mehabaw Month ago +27

    To begin with the reporting, this is the only objective video ever presented on this very sensitive issue. As an Ethiopian I want to ask a question for those watching this video. Lets talk the other way. If blue nile was originating from Egypt and it planned to build a dam, would she be open for negotiations with Ethiopia? I really appreciate your comments on this.

    • Mr. Roger's Neighborhood Watch
      Mr. Roger's Neighborhood Watch Month ago +8

      We all know the answer to that question.

    • John Wellington
      John Wellington Month ago +12

      Exactly, that's why i fully stand behind Ethiopia doing what it wants with its water

    • Dan Tefera
      Dan Tefera Month ago +3

      We planted 4 billion trees in the last 20 years and clean the source of nile lake tana from water sucking trees so is it acceptable to say Egypt can say a word about a nile? As we planted trees to bring rain to feed nile with water also capable of destroying trees to dry nile.

    • Michael Pelzek
      Michael Pelzek Month ago +4

      ​@John Wellingtonagreed as an American same here. Ethiopia holds the cards here use this to your advantage.

    • GreEkTerR0r U-I
      GreEkTerR0r U-I 4 days ago +1

      I don't see why this question matters. First of all, we cannot know the answer for sure. Most importantly though, does one side making the wrong choice justify the other side doing the same ? I do not belive so.

  • Nick
    Nick 2 months ago +14

    Thousands of years ago, the route west out of Egypt wasn't as absolutely impassible as it is today. Desertification has gotten rid of lots and lots of oases, oases that we know were used to supply a trade route from Cyrene to the Nile Delta. The Ptolemies used it to push to Cyrenaica and place it under their control, and the Optimate faction marched a force from Ptolemaic Egypt to Cyrene, then on to Utica during Caesar's Civil War.
    Rome conquered Egypt almost last of their big conquests. By the time Ptolemaic Egypt was taken in 32BCE, all of Spain (except a tiny bit in the north), France, the Low Countries, Anatolia, the Levant, Greece, western North Africa, and of course Italy were under Roman control, and Armenia, Georgia, and most of the Balkans were under their hegemony. Only Britain, Dacia, Pannonia, and very briefly Mesopotamia came after, and some minor conquests here and there.

  • Alex Hendon
    Alex Hendon 13 days ago +1

    Thank you RealLifeLore. These informative geographical based videos are some of the best (and I watch everything) I've ever had the pleasure to watch.

  • Pekz00r
    Pekz00r Month ago +10

    Great video!
    I think Egypt would be in a much better position if they where more understanding and let Ethiopia build their dam from the beginning. Then they probably could have agreed on a good dispute resolution mechanism and they could have proper negotiations regarding the rate of filling the dam. That would've been better for all parties.
    I do think Ethiopia should have the right to build this dam and fill their dam in a reasonable time if they also try to cooperate and do what they can minimise the effects downstream.

  • Flint Ashwood
    Flint Ashwood 2 months ago +758

    As an ethiopian i hope that we could solve this issue peacefully,much love to my egyptian brothers and sisters ❤

    • Zhong Ping
      Zhong Ping 2 months ago +25

      I don't know much about your nation, is it a democracy? Are you able to put pressure on your politicians to come to the negotiation table with reasonable assurances and to agree to binding resolutions?

      ADMICKEY II 2 months ago +2

      Not the cats?

    • Bassem Ahmed
      Bassem Ahmed 2 months ago +7

      thanks for your kind words but we maybe affected badly by this

  • EthanZ
    EthanZ 2 months ago +24

    Amazing video.
    3 points.
    -Evaporation proofing and desalination are the keys to water security for all nations.
    -Water wars need more coverage and assistance in solutions.
    -Filling the GERD during monsoons seems like a very reasonable thing to do.

    • Finn Jake
      Finn Jake 2 months ago

      israel needs to save us. they are the only one capable.

    • Cheri Trulove
      Cheri Trulove Month ago

      Now see that's the answer to afew problems, desalination. America should try this also, it would make better friends btwn Country's..🦅🇺🇸🇺🇦💪🏽🕊🦋💙🙏🏽

    • MikeyLikesIt
      MikeyLikesIt 24 days ago +1

      our military unit used desalination exclusively as our water supply in e. africa. it's expensive! but i agree, necessary. innovation will overcome this challenge, i believe.

    • Riley Jackson
      Riley Jackson 14 days ago

      So there is a reason as to why desalinization hasn’t taken off, and that’s because it makes the coastal waters toxic for any sea life because it just dumps all of that salt back into the ocean. So while good here and there and for communities with little other choice, if you were to do it widespread up and down coasts you’d destroy local ecosystems by making the water too salty for many organisms to live.

    • EthanZ
      EthanZ 14 days ago

      @Riley Jackson the salt could be deposited on land pretty easily. Free sea salt too. This shouldn’t be a valid excuse. The energy intensity shouldn’t be a valid excuse either. It’s a simple filtration.
      I’m not sure what the real hold ups are. I think Israel and some Middle East countries do it. With the caliber of our elected officials i guess I’m not surprised it’s taking so long. I guess we’ll wait until we really need it, or until our rainfall/snowfall capture is better and we never need it.

  • Marq Summers
    Marq Summers 18 days ago +1

    You must have a great research team. So well informed and shared. I didn’t know the Nile flowed north and natural geography supplies it.

  • GeoViz Plus
    GeoViz Plus 2 months ago +76

    Ethiopia is insisting to develop just like Egypt. More than 95% of Egyptian population has electricity access. Whereas it's below 50% in Ethiopia. It's not simply fair to let an entirely 86% of Nile water originating from Ethiopia and should benefit Egypt only. Egypt should come up with a win win situation and offering reasonable solutions than hindering Ethiopia from using the Nile all alone. Ethiopia has never wanted and surely will never has an intention to utilize the water alone. It's God's gift for all the entire nations in the course (10 countries). Not only Ethiopia, all of these nations should utilize with their share, including Egypt which is largely dependent on the Nile.

    • Samson Mulugeta
      Samson Mulugeta Month ago +5

      The best comment, so far. Seems like no one gets it. Thank you !

    • Rohan Kishibe
      Rohan Kishibe Month ago +7

      Ethiopia have the option of having the gird and filling it slowly while insisting on Egypt to provide a monetary aid to counter the losses made by delaying the filling, yet they didn't even ask for such method, they continued shutting down every possible negotiation, honestly, war is brutal but this war is justified, Egypt gave it's hand for diplomatic solutions while Ethiopia stubbornly neglected them
      And even darker solution is to at least blackmail Egypt with the dam to make it negotiate bad deals with it's allies to at least pay Ethiopia, Egypt will be forced to do so, Ethiopia will secure it's position as a diplomatic reliable country and it will be Egypt's fault if they didn't pay in time therefore Ethiopia will be "justified" to continue the project, but Ethiopia is forcing war.

    • GeoViz Plus
      GeoViz Plus Month ago +2

      @Rohan Kishibe Do you think Egypt is also a reliable country when it comes to such things? There are no even close signs that Egypt has such interest of payments or any other beneficiary proposals (at least one instance that comes to the eyes of an international media).

    • Rohan Kishibe
      Rohan Kishibe Month ago +3

      @GeoViz Plus even if, they need to make Egypt default on payment to garner international scrutiny, love it or hate it, Egypt is pretty popular, it has better markets than Ethiopia, it has way way way better relationships than Ethiopia, from the arab league, Israel, Turkey, EU mainly France, US, and even Russia and China, if Ethiopia accepted some impossible terms to at least have a proper argument and to appear diplomatic, if Egypt didn't pay, didn't respect their end of the deal, it's Egypt's fault, Ethiopia did it's task and tried the good solution, Egypt defaulted will make Egypt look weak and therefore their war is even weaker with weaker allies.
      If Ethiopia stays silent, everyone knows war is inevitable and even justified, no one evil or good will pick dying by thirst.

    • GeoViz Plus
      GeoViz Plus Month ago +2

      @Rohan Kishibe I recommend you to read a news from 2020 where Sudan Khartoum has been flooded from the outflow of the water from Ethiopia where at least 100 people have died. It happened during the same season Ethiopia was filling the dam.

  • John Gee
    John Gee Month ago +14

    Petroleum shaped geopolitics of the twentieth century. Access to and control of water will define geopolitics well into the twenty first century.
    FWIW: I joined Nebula because of high quality content creators like you. I encourage all who appreciate quality content like this to join.

  • Mar Cello
    Mar Cello 2 months ago +904

    This could either be a great opportunity for both countries cooperation in reaching common goals, improve their citizens lives and their respective regions, or a disastrous step for both countries to clash, ruin their citizens lives, destabilize the surrounding regions and create waves of refugees. Something tells me that it's more prone to end up the second way, but there are always surprises so, it might also end up differently.

    • Caprikel
      Caprikel 2 months ago +89

      What common goals? Did you even watch the video? The whole reason that war might start is because there isn't a common goal that they can reach through cooperation, since every outcome is to the detriment of both sides.

    • codaproto
      codaproto 2 months ago +13

      ​@Caprikel that's why they said "or". they are saying it could be good or bad depending on a whole bunch of factors and that only time will tell. definitely something to watch, i myself have yet to make up my mind on this situation.

    • agxryt
      agxryt 2 months ago +58

      @Caprikel just because a reallifelore video hasn't given them a solution doesn't mean there ISNT a solution. The idea that there's no possibility for cooperation is just rhetoric both sides use to justify their violence, and it's idiotic that RLL promotes it.
      There IS room for compromise. Unfortunately, these regions are far too prone to tribal/ethnic/religious violence and military overreach to find it, and have depended too much on the UN peacekeeping, diplomatic missions or Russian paramilitary forces for conflict resolution.
      Pretending there's no room for diplomacy is warmongering.

    • 悪霊退散
      悪霊退散 2 months ago +19

      @agxryt No amount of damming is good for Egypt, it can only be bad or less bad depending on how much is dammed and how quickly.

    • cat sándwich
      cat sándwich 2 months ago +3

      i would expect a diplomatic stalemate, also sudan is ignored a lot even though they´re quite literaly, in the middle of it all, at least not talked about as much

  • Dan Farrand
    Dan Farrand 2 months ago +4

    It's very unlikely that bombs could destroy the dam. Infrastructure associated with the dam could be damaged, but destroying the dam structure itself is unlikely.

  • DaLac_
    DaLac_ Month ago +4

    If for whatever reason Egypt decides to go to war with Ethiopia over the Nile River, I will happily and proudly die for Ethiopia. Egypt has been benefiting from the Nile without any interference for centuries and now Ethiopia decides to build the damn to help its population, and Egypt wants to make a big deal. This is about power for Egypt with the help of the Arab league.

  • Logical Paradox
    Logical Paradox 2 months ago +4

    Thank you for covering this! Great video.
    One thing the video didn’t go into detail about, though… is what capabilities Ethiopia (and its allies) would have to retaliate against Egypt. Egypt is, after all, a long ways away. And, as noted, the Egyptian air force is significantly larger and more advanced. I don’t really see an Ethiopian army attempting to invade and conquer Sudan on its way to Egypt. Nor do I see any other options for retaliation by land forces… so, that leaves… what exactly? I don’t foresee any kind of meaningful naval action… so, then I’m confused as to what a war between the two nations would look like realistically.

    • Lamartine Zola
      Lamartine Zola 2 months ago

      That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel.
      Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do?
      Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.

    • planescaped
      planescaped 14 days ago

      @Lamartine Zola This post is quite ironic.

  • Pathfinder
    Pathfinder 2 months ago +4

    To put the wheat consumption statistic in perspective, all throughout history, Egypt has been a tremendous EXPORTER of wheat. Now, all of a sudden, a population boom turns them into a net importer. This is some terrifying land mismanagement. They're using up all their good land for housing and commercial uses, rather than farming.

  • Silhouette ♣️
    Silhouette ♣️ Month ago +8

    This was has been going on for awhile between my country and Egypt’s, glad it’s being shared. So happy to see this video having 2 million views

    • ahmed mohammed
      ahmed mohammed Month ago

      wish we can come to a fair agreement , or in the best case, a full cooperation between all the eastern african countries, we have potentials but we don't have enough trust in eachother

    • Silhouette ♣️
      Silhouette ♣️ Month ago

      @ahmed mohammed i wish there will be, east Africa is built different 😃

    • Bedi D
      Bedi D Month ago

      @ahmed mohammed this could also degenerate into a tribal and race war. Perish the thought. Egypt should consider itself the African country it really is,and help to strengthen the AU through an arbitration process led by that body. Arguing about the colour of Cleopatra is extremely frivolous given this danger. Anyone who encourages a preemptive strike by Egypt, has neither the interest of Egypt nor the remainder of Africa at heart.

  • henokhenke
    henokhenke 2 months ago +277

    Once again an issue that I had no clue about being well researched and presented. Thank you so much for your work, I enjoy these videos alot! Also thanks to the natives commenting in all the videos who point out things that might be wrong, always fun to see all the sides of the issue and try to learn what's percieved as "correct" :)

    • G
      G 2 months ago +2

      the source of the nile belongs to ethiopia and the rest of the horn of africa and sudan and has always the modern egyptians dont know how to harness the nile river thats why it has diminished they have changed its course and route by drilling into it and replacing water many times for their own benefit which has damaged the nile over time and now its not as good as it once was during ancient times

  • Chris Vallyon
    Chris Vallyon 2 months ago +2

    Two key facts missed in this. Immigration rules were very strict until the 1990s. There are still restrictions on immigration numbers. Second, in the age of Sailing Ships, the South Island was closer to Europe via a direct trade wind from the cape of South Africa. In the modern age, Auckland is closer to our trade routes. Hence the population shift from north to south has a lot to do with changes in technology.

  • Daniel
    Daniel 2 months ago +6

    Ahmed Ibrahim, your comment is what is needed in this time of division and hate. I am an Ethiopian . There are many powers which are visible and murky who levitate in the affairs of others. Few years ago I was on a vacation about 110 km outside of Addis Abeba Ethiopia with my children. I met two Egyptians and we started talking about many issues as we watched our children swim together in harmony. I know it's very simplistic to compare childrens play to water security, but whoever put this doomsday scenario video probably would like to see war between us. If one of us or both deal in despotism, that might create an environment of doom. I read long ago "there is no victory in war"! I hope both our nations,which are ancient, will be seasoned enough not to choose a path of war! A war with no possibility of success.

  • Wildfire
    Wildfire 2 months ago

    If this conflict ever starts to seriously heat up as the second scenario suggests in the event of drought, I would wager it has the potential to facilitate diplomatic talks with South Sudan and Israel.

  • Dagne Wubneh
    Dagne Wubneh 2 months ago +2

    What an excellent presentation! I just watched it in my extremely limited timeline.
    It is the choice of the two countries to come to a table and find a win-win solution. Otherwise, any external influence and selfish approach could only trigger a useless war leading ultimately neither has won.

    • Tilaye Mekonnen
      Tilaye Mekonnen Month ago

      Each country has the responsibility to seek objective evidences on the ground about this water in love and win-win manner as u said before moving to any kind of military action.

  • Horseheart
    Horseheart Month ago

    Oh! I wrote a paper on this very recently, in like November or so. One point you didn't mention really is Sudan's interesting part in the conflict. Historically, Sudan sided with Egypt, citing similar claims of historic rights and fears of water insecurity. However, Sudan experiences deadly seasonal flooding from the nile, and around 2013ish the country figured that the dam could actually help prevent future floods, which for context, in 2020 alone killed over 100 people and affected 875k others, and led to tons of infrastructure and crop loss. The GERD may also allow Sudan's many smaller hydroelectric dams to produce of to 36% more energy and reduce maintenance costs for them. However, this posititivity towards the dam has stopped since the Al Fashaga border dispute has escalated.
    Another huge issue in the conflict is that the two countries have not come to a consensus on the downstream consequences of the dam, making any policy very loose with no real meaning. Egypt wants a binding policy that ensures fixed water release; Ethiopia doesn’t. Egypt believes the 20th-century agreements are still valid; Ethiopia does not recognize them as such. Egypt believes the U.S. and the UN should be involved (who, btw, have historically sided w Egypt); Ethiopia advocates for AU involvement (which, btw, is headquartered in Ethiopia). The two countries couldn't even agree on the conduction of IPoE and ESIA assessments to establish a foundation of scientific knowledge. The governments of both countries have also both advocated for an all or nothing mindset, and there is little to no trust between them. In order to reach a compromise, both parties must be willing to make concessions and cooperate in ways that current ideological views are not conducive to.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna Month ago

      Dear thanks doing research on Nile river and u did very good job
      I am Ethiopian and I will accept all treaty as valid as long as Egypt follows the treaty to the letter or word for word
      1. 1902 treaty said don't arrest the water that means don't dam Nile rive and Ethiopia didn't have dam so we didn't break the sprite of 1902 treaty
      2. 1929 treaty also viod when Egypt drafted 1959 treaty this action void 1929 treaty but let as accepted it for argument's sake
      1929 treaty doesn't allow Egypt to build Aswan dam or to share the water with Sudan
      3. 1959 treaty also doesn't say build dam hence how give power Egypt to build Aswan dam none of the treaty give them this power hence they can't prevent Ethiopia from building GERD since GERD is not a dam it is hydroelectricity generation which is totally different then regular dam that arrest the water GERD doesn't arrest water it release water to generate power so where is the harm where is the treaty broken we didn't arrested the water
      Egypt spend 200 billion dollar in war machinery why not use the money to build 40 GERD in Ethiopia in total we would have produced 240Gmw power and become 2nd in world after China

    HEY SIRI 2 months ago +916

    It's absolutely crazy that I've never once heard of the Tigray war, a conflict that killed perhaps x20 as many in the war in Ukraine. They're both horrific tragedies but it's just crazy that one of them never gets mentioned.

    • Furan Duron
      Furan Duron 2 months ago +50

      First time I heard about it.

    • Dmytro Lysak
      Dmytro Lysak 2 months ago +61

      I agree. We here in Ukraine were too busy to follow something like this, too. However, it's not x20 killed compared to Ukraine, it's in the same ballpark (so far) if you count civilian lives too. Mariupol alone was a city of half a million population, it was very nearly levelled, no one knows how many survived.
      It's just too hard to count at this point, so estimates are giving the lowest confirmed number of victims possible.

  • DanevD
    DanevD 2 months ago +10

    Love your stuff! Could you make a video with brief descriptions on every ongoing conflict in the world in 2023? Civil wars, border crises, etc...

    • Ivancho
      Ivancho 2 months ago +3

      Yea right, it will be "For the full video subscribe to Nebula." Ain't gonna happen.

    • Lamartine Zola
      Lamartine Zola 2 months ago

      That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel.
      Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do?
      Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.

  • Naveed Loudin
    Naveed Loudin 2 months ago +4

    Thank you for the video! It was incredibly informative and engaging. I really enjoyed learning about the fascinating country, and the visuals were stunning.

  • Reign
    Reign Month ago

    I would be interested in seeing how much of the current situation in Sudan is indirectly linked to the power struggle between Egypt and Ethiopia and their backers.
    A Sudan more aligned to Egypt is in their favour, but a Sudan controlled by those with backing from Russia may play to Ethiopia’s favour

  • Regdu Geht
    Regdu Geht 2 months ago

    I enjoy these videos so much. Thank you, Realifelore, again . The historical research is so important. Water is becoming increasingly important in many countries.

    • Lamartine Zola
      Lamartine Zola 2 months ago

      That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel.
      Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do?
      Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.

  • Nick Frankel
    Nick Frankel 2 months ago

    Fantastic video, I look forward to checking out your other content. Very organized and informative Great job!

  • Muhammad Athallah Arsyaf
    Muhammad Athallah Arsyaf 2 months ago +692

    I think quite a similar situation is happening along the Mekong river in Southeast Asia. Its amazing how easy people overlook rivers as a geopolitical issue.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago +8

      @ Moh,
      U r the best person to ask this question Super power China built six dam over Mekong river 30 years ago.
      My question is does China dry up the river what happend to Myanmar, Thailand, Lao PDR, Cambodia and Viet Nam.

    • The American American
      The American American 2 months ago +22

      Begun, the Water Wars, has....

    • Light Bulb 💡
      Light Bulb 💡 2 months ago +4

      @Hikm Suna they'll all die from starveness and droughts during summer

    • Q Nguyen
      Q Nguyen 2 months ago +15

      @Hikm Suna Funny that you think China can dry up the river when their basin only supplies 15% of total water of the Mekong river. And I'm saying that as a Vietnamese.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago +2

      ​@Q Nguyen
      I am just asking the question because that is what Egypt claims if Ethiopia build dam they will die

  • G. Mikkelsen
    G. Mikkelsen Month ago +11

    I just read a paper linking Blue Nile volume to the El Niño oscillation. El Niño caused less water and La Niña caused more water flow. Well, during the last few years we've had La Nina, but now we are likely heading into an El Nino, which does not bode well for the pace of filling the reservoir and potential droughts.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna Month ago

      Ethiopia fill GERD 3 times
      1st filling took 15 days
      2nd filling took 15 days
      3rd filling took 15 day
      No body noticed even we fill the GERD
      Remaining filling r 4
      Pray it is not beyond the capacity of water the GERD hold if is to much rain the left over WI floaded Sudan just like 2022 fload Sudan must have GERD the phone hot Lind to tell us to hold more water and save them from spending billion of dollars and life of Sudan

  • Ihab Amer
    Ihab Amer 2 months ago

    Thank you very much for such a comprehensive video. As I'm very aware of the topic, I here by confirm that all of your assessments, in such a sophisticated topic, were spot on and precise. I was reading the comments below and some haven't even got the logic to use their brains on such a delicate situation, some are stating solutions that far away from practicality (I'm an engineer with 35 years experience) and others are going on harsh statements based on what they were brainwashed by their local TV (typical story).
    It is sad that there is a lot of historical enmity, based on past historical stubbornness and actions, in addition of countries that were occupying the region and only cared for their interest. The echo of all enmity is still echoing to this particular day. I'm a firm believer in Africa and its potential as being the future, but looking at the past and living in it and reacting accordingly would lead to total destruction instead of development.
    From the way I see it it doesn't look so good; Trump was right, what would a country on the brink of dying out of thirst do? They are dead anyway, and this is not a joke or few mega watts of electricity. This is human lives we are talking about here and this comes on TOP of MY LIST, but if those lives are not considered; whether they are Egyptian or Ethiopians then I fear that that Nile would be red and both countries will be eliminated accordingly.

    • Terefe Taye
      Terefe Taye 2 months ago

      do you know about transboundary river International conventions governing water sharing ? if you know you know.

  • mazdak sheytunak
    mazdak sheytunak Month ago

    Thanks for the effort and for making these videos! So important for everyone to see! Many thanks !!! ❤

  • Rinae Denga
    Rinae Denga 2 months ago +20

    It doesn't make any sense that Egypt believes it has any rights beyond it's borders. To make it worse, they cited an agreement unilaterally made by them and the UK - a colonial power - without the consideration of the rights of those inhabiting the country with the most significant tributary of the Nile 🤦🏾‍♂️. 🇿🇦🇪🇹

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago +2

      If Egypt back to owned by UK then we have to respect the treaty

    • Rinae Denga
      Rinae Denga 2 months ago +1

      @Hikm Suna No one should respect any treaty made by colonial powers. I know this is a slippery slope, but the UK had it's best interest at heart and nothing else.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago +2

      ​@Rinae Denga
      I throw curve u might miss it
      I say for Ethiopia to respect slave master treaty then the Egyptians must go back in to slavery...to make the treaty valid

    • Rinae Denga
      Rinae Denga 2 months ago +1

      @Hikm Suna Aah, my bad! I feel you

    • Keshi
      Keshi 22 days ago

      @Hikm Suna Ok let me ask you a question. Imagine if someone made a deal with another person about how they will use your tap water in your house without ever consulting you, never having you present or considering you in that discussion.
      Does that seem fair? Would anyone accept that?

  • HelpfulJump
    HelpfulJump 3 days ago

    I love geopolitics because it is very simple. It always goes like, two countries hate each other because British designed them that way.

  • Michael Assefa
    Michael Assefa 2 months ago +5046

    As an Ethiopian that’s aware of current politics around the dam, this is by far the most underrated, unbiased, uncomplicated reporting of the issue. Thank you RLL! Also will like to add that Ethiopia is not planning to fill during drought years. we’re not inconsiderate. However it is our right to live, build, prosper over the Nile, and thus will make sure this dam reaches its full operational stage while mitigating all issues Egypt faces regarding water security.

    • Damon Edrington
      Damon Edrington 2 months ago +851

      The worst part about this crisis is that neither side is in the wrong because both only want what’s best for their people

    • Waltuh • 2.3b views • 3 seconds ago.....
      Waltuh • 2.3b views • 3 seconds ago..... 2 months ago +177

      My thoughts are with you. I think ethiopia should be able to better the lives of their own citizens, as long as it doesn't affect the egyptians all too much. Horrifying to think that the egypt might've helped escalate that war

    • jtim83
      jtim83 2 months ago +216

      This is an actual *true problem. Neither side is wrong. I hope both parties can come together and figure out a solution. War would be the worst option.

    • Magickology
      Magickology 2 months ago +18

      ​@Damon Edrington so true

    • Terry
      Terry 2 months ago +119

      The whole issue is in the hands of politicians and that's what's dangerous.
      If you the Ethiopians were serious about not filling the dam during drought years then they would have agreed to define what is a drought year.
      But money is involved and politicians want to fill up the dam as fast as possible, start making money as soon as possible and well...
      ...making demands to the Egyptians from a position of power as early as possible.

  • Aly Ahmed
    Aly Ahmed 2 months ago +7

    Perfect neutral explaining , As an egyption we hope we reach a managing agreement with our Ethiopian brothers in the future so it benefits our mutual resources growth .

  • Christopher Parsons
    Christopher Parsons Month ago +1

    One thing that hits me like a ton of bricks is that Egypt should consider consulting the Saudis, who have managed to turn vast tracts of desert into farmland and also use desalination plants to get their water. Another idea would be to merge the economies of Egypt and Ethiopia, so that in using the same currency, they would both be negatively affected by each other's misfortunes, thereby making it a matter of mutual benefit to help each other. This could be done without either country relinquishing control of their respective governments. This has worked in the EU with the Euro. In fact, both solutions could possibly be used to some degree. The Saudis could also possibly teach the Ethiopians how to create better farmland, if they are experts in terraforming desert lands. I think it is far better for countries to share their bread and oil, instead of destroying each other.
    I will go one step further and suggest that since Sudan and Uganda are also involved in the flow of water in the Nile and their decisions will also affect their neighbors going forward, it would probably be a good idea to have them involved in the process also. It would possibly be helpful to see a regional currency develop in the area, where it may help to provide employment, supplies and an end to suffering of peoples in less fortunate areas of the Nile region. If it stopped war in Sudan, that would also be great. I am aware that there are a great many differences amongst the tribes and beliefs there, but I think Ethiopia should be considered a shining example of what happens when a government decides to allow and encourage a melting pot of cultures, instead of one culture oppressing all others. Some people reading this may resent my ideas, but ideas like mine might mean the difference between people they support living or dying. I am frankly tired of all of the suffering among African nations, largely due to ignorance and the strong exploiting the weak, always. Some people need to learn to live and let live.

  • Loki man 225
    Loki man 225 Month ago +5

    To be completely honest with you I’m embarrassed that I am only just now becoming aware of such a catastrophic conflict. Thank you for educating me on these issues.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna Month ago

      Don't be embarrassed even Egyptians doesn't know electricity generation doesn't consume water they thought if Ethiopia produced power they going to lose water but electricity and water doesn't mix how in hell electricity production consume water... I know it is hard to understand so I give u example
      Let say u have a pool and everyday u swim but swimming doesn't consume the water after u swim the same water available for more swimming in way u use the water but not consuming the water
      If use the water for transportation the water is not going to be finished
      This is exactly what Egypt saying just Ethiopia swim in Nile water we will be cut of from the water..
      Mind u if I drink the water then only I reduce the water, if I use the water for irrigation that I reduce the water but not power production

    • Joseph Khalil
      Joseph Khalil Month ago +1

      ​@Hikm Suna true, but holding too much water meaning, it's not traveling to its destination, plus big amount will disappear either through ground or evaporated, plus you don't need 74 billions cubic meters of water to generate electricity.
      All experts said that the dam is over built and the electricity generated from isn't more than 30% of the value.
      This dam is nothing more than political nuisance.

  • JH
    JH Month ago +1

    Great video. Scary situation because it seems like it can only end one of two ways (neither good).... 1) the slow death of Egypt. Either through economic collapse or uprising/civil war OR 2) A massive war in Eastern Africa that likely includes Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia and possibly others. And I think the war is the more likely outcome. Probably by the late 2020's.

    • MattH123
      MattH123 28 days ago

      Long term, war is likely the best outcome because it will be the most likely to offer a long term solution. Humans all have different needs, and this is going to last forever because nothing is infinite. Therefore peace through strength is the only true peace.
      If Ethiopia doesnt find a way to appease their neighbors, it will be a destroyed country.

  • John Beach
    John Beach Month ago

    If vast shallow lakes could be created and covered with a transparent material, the Sun could evaporate the water quickly due to the rays being trapped (infra red) by the transparent covering, the water could be condensed and collected. The bottoms of these lakes should be black in order to assist heat absorption. An engineer would have to design an efficient way to condense and collect the water. The salt could be collected periodically. These lakes would have to be immense and many would be needed. The covering would need to be supported by columns spaced across the lakes. This would be expensive to create, but the pay off would be worth the investment. If a vacuum could be created within the lake/transparent covering, the evaporation rate would be increased. Solar power could generate electricity to run the vacuum machines.

  • L S
    L S 2 months ago +2

    Hydro can be developed as run-of-the-river, with some minor River modifications there would be no large reservoirs and little disturbance of Downstream flow. Still have the same amount of water flow going Downstream, but run-of-the-river Hydro is much less disruptive. You have a turbine could be Underground partially divert part of the river through it and it comes out the other end

  • San Gen
    San Gen 2 months ago +318

    It's so sad that I never heard anything about this conflict before. I try to be aware of these types of dark episodes and this is a horrible example of if there's someone who doesn't want to share information about something, you can hardly find anything about it.
    Thank you so much for creating this video, it was really amazing and moving. I hope the Clip-Share algorithm doesn't discourage you from sharing these types of conflicts.
    Greetings from Mexico.

    • G
      G 2 months ago +4

      the source of the nile belongs to ethiopia and the rest of the horn of africa and sudan and has always the modern egyptians dont know how to harness the nile river thats why it has diminished they have changed its course and route by drilling into it and replacing water many times for their own benefit which has damaged the nile over time and now its not as good as it once was during ancient times

    • Leander Searle
      Leander Searle 2 months ago +4

      Caspian Report did a video on it pretty soon after it started.

    • DatBoyElmo
      DatBoyElmo 2 months ago

      Same I typically just end the video when he does the Nebula promotion, but I think I'll actually check it out.

    • G
      G 2 months ago +1

      @G9 they dont that study was talking about 1 mummy found in the sinai peninsula near the levant while the rest of the dynastic mummies matched with horn african populations like afar tribe somali and nubian haplogroups aswell as cranial morphology

    • Ulrich Leukam
      Ulrich Leukam 2 months ago +1

      @G9 No! Ancient egyptians were black in race as accounted by several biblical and romans accounts, but the ethnicity changed with time as Egypt traded, was invaded and conquered by arabic nations

  • Bill Frehe
    Bill Frehe 2 months ago +8

    This is an issue I've been following for years. Let's hope Ethiopia acts rationally in filling its dam reservoir. This would likely end up being a proxy war between Western/Arab nations vs China/Russia. This is extremely dangerous.

    • Ezra Meko
      Ezra Meko Month ago +2

      What irrational conduct did you witness (on Ethiopia's part) to suggest rationality? In other words, why did you think Ethiopia should be reminded about doing things rationally but not Egypt (I am not referring Sudan because its being bullied by Egypt to act in the latters favour, not that it is not benefiting from the GERD)?

    • Bill Frehe
      Bill Frehe Month ago +1

      @Ezra Meko I never made an accusation against Ethiopia. I merely stated a desire for Ethiopia to behave rationally due to the fact that if it does not, Egypt will attack Ethiopia and a proxy war between the West/Arabs vs. China/Russia will break out in North-East Africa. The last thing Africa needs is more war, let alone one as serious as a proxy war between world powers.

    • Ezra Meko
      Ezra Meko Month ago +1

      @Bill Frehe Please, answer the question rather than trying to play smart by dodging it. Putting it slightly differently (in case the previous ones were not clear) how did you reach the conclusion of the irrationality of Ethiopia's conduct and what is the rationality of Egypt's behaviour that led you not to raise the same question towards it?
      By the way, try to get down from your high horse and learn a bit about the two countries' history of war. Egypt and Ethiopia waged two major wars in 1885 & 1886, not to speak of the around 16 relatively minor ones, in which Ethiopia came up on top. It is very likely the same would happen should there be another one. Remember, Ethiopia had been the only country that had never been colonized. And there is a good reason for that. So, please don't be so sure about the outcome of the war should there be another one in the near or long future.

    • Bill Frehe
      Bill Frehe Month ago +1

      @Ezra Meko I never said Ethiopia was acting irrationally. You're reading comprehension is taxing my patience. How can Ethiopia act irrationally with regard to its dams if they haven't even been completed yet? Sorry, but speaking with you further is a waste of my time.

  • Kevin Sundberg
    Kevin Sundberg 2 months ago +2

    I'll admit as a north-eastern American... I have been trying to keep my finger on the pulse of global geopolitics, but the kick off of a full scale conflict on feb 24th definitely had me put on the blinders due to a NATO bias. im not trying to shame myself or defend my viewpoints, but i do notice the bias and fixation a "westerner" may have on Ukraine. this video also helped me start to draw the connections of all the Eurasian/Afro-Arabic "world-island" conflicts together. a strained grain trade between rus/ukr and egypt could start a domino effect far greater than the Arib Spring. I am starting to realize the political weight of this global conflict.

  • ashraf sokwalla
    ashraf sokwalla Month ago

    Thank you very much for the knowledge you shared and now we know exactly what has been happening between Ethiopia and Egypt.

  • saucy05
    saucy05 2 months ago +8

    Imagine Canada threatening America not to build a dam on water that originates on American soil…
    This world is all about who got the power not who’s right or wrong.

  • Stephen Jabaut
    Stephen Jabaut 15 days ago

    This is so interesting because, to me, this feels like a global development for the benefit of all people in the Sudan, Ethiopia, and Egypt. Storing water is only a net positive for all countries, and assuming Ethiopia is a good actor, it will allow Ethiopia to give water when neededs. It's also only one of two sources to the greater Nile. It seems like the real problem here is that Ethiopia will be gaining power and Egypt doesn't like that. Nationalism has the potential to ruin the global development.

  • Teamcharcoal1
    Teamcharcoal1 2 months ago +286

    Funny timing for this video, I just returned from Egypt where I visited the high dam and Lake Nasser among other areas. The locals are quite concerned about this issue and it’s well presented here. It’s like you heard me talking and released this video, learned a lot more about it as well. A couple further things to consider as well are the Egyptian governments current investments in to irrigation canals and developing of the south of the country in general. This will take further water from the lake and ensure more people live in the more dry southern egyptian climate.

    • Linda
      Linda 2 months ago +27

      Yes - maybe. But what does that do for the Ethiopians who have had massive challenges with drought and starvation over the last few decades? They matter too.

    • Teamcharcoal1
      Teamcharcoal1 2 months ago +14

      @Linda I never said they didn’t. I was simply informing of additional context that can strain relations for this scenario. Egypts water demands are only increasing along with the above mentioned infrastructure development. I’m not taking a side, just adding some further context about the increased interest Egypts government and citizens have with ensuring water accessibility at this period of time. The Dam would be great for Ethiopia, I hope they can continue its utilization and reach their goals, while Egypt and Sudan don’t also need to struggle further. It’s a tough situation all around and I hope they can find an amiable solution.

    • Yuanban Anaspleitz
      Yuanban Anaspleitz 2 months ago +3

      @Teamcharcoal1 chiiiiiilllll bro, linda has her ear to the heart of the ethiopian plight. she'll figure it out.

    • Obamain POtin
      Obamain POtin 2 months ago +4

      To me the only peacefull ending is for egypt to pay the potential productivity of the dam. U cant prevent populations from benefiting from the dam, and at the same time use the river to your full advantage.

    • Eng Msh
      Eng Msh 2 months ago +2

      The new irrigation canals are from recycled water form irrigation

  • StillThePvpGod275
    StillThePvpGod275 2 months ago +3

    This is an amazing and unbiased video that explains both sides very clearly.

  • The Dream Traveler
    The Dream Traveler 2 months ago +7

    I can't believe I'm learning of this war for the first time and it only happened last year. Humans are some of the most disgusting things on this planet while at the same time being capable of being the most wonderful...I just wish more of us could be good and let everyone live happily

    • Brian Lee
      Brian Lee 2 months ago +1

      I think the whole Nile river situation is a good example of why everyone can't live happily. In this scenario, the happiness and benefit of one group directly opposes and reduces the happiness of another. Even a compromise harms both parties.

  • Josef Harvey
    Josef Harvey Month ago +2

    As an Egyptian I really hope our brothers can fulfill their country's needs and their people. The nile belongs to all of us but certainly to Ethiopia first. I up for that GERD development as long we get some then it's cool with me :DDD

  • Nine Dragons
    Nine Dragons 2 months ago +42

    You know, that fact that Ethiopia decided only to fill their dam during rainy monsoons seasons sounds like a good compromise. They could've cut the water outright, but they're being considerate to countries down river. In all honesty, I think the real issue Egypt has is losing control over the Nile. CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL. That's what this is really about.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago +6

      In rainy season even after Ethiopia hold her share of water the left over water flooded Sudan and Sudan lost in billion

    • Nour Elsabah
      Nour Elsabah 2 months ago +6

      What control are you talking about? It is a matter of life or death.. Indeed, it's a somewhat good step on their part, because they don't want to rush into wars or turn countries against them.. But if their intention are good, why do they refuse to cooperate and make a commitment to not affect the other countries, and all these discussions end

    • FighterCK
      FighterCK Month ago +8

      ​@Nour Elsabah This could have been avoided decades ago if England hadn't intervened and allowed Ethiopia to build their dam back when the climate was better. The fact that they were robbed of nearly a century of development by restricting activities within their borders by collusion with European powers probably makes them reluctant to overly involve outsiders and especially Westerners again. They don't care if Sub Saharan Africa develops at all. Egypt's attempts to get them to accept mediation from the US or the UN were likely not received well for this reason. Had they started by going to the African Union first, perhaps this might have gone differently but we'll never know.

  • Soufriere
    Soufriere 5 days ago +2

    Seems like the ultimate problem is Egypt's insane overpopulation (which is an issue in almost every country in Africa). Fertile though it is, the Lower Nile simply cannot support 100+M people -- maybe half that and the rest as farmland. Ethiopia is also overpopulated. Birthrates are falling in most countries to the point even pessimists expect world pop. to peak before 2100, if die-offs caused by drought and/or war don't do it earlier. Long term, fewer humans is the best thing.

  • Jhonathan Cabrera
    Jhonathan Cabrera 2 months ago +496

    I was in Ethiopia last year during the war but it didn’t seem like there was one going on. Life seemed like normal in the capital, can’t believe 600k were killed. That’s crazy.

    • Tes
      Tes 2 months ago +90

      The capital is insulated from the consequences of the war for the most part.

    • Obamain POtin
      Obamain POtin 2 months ago +74

      Ethiopian are really brutal when it comes to armed conflicts. War is a traditional dance for ethiopians

    • Jordan
      Jordan 2 months ago +144

      @Obamain POtin where are you from? All war is brutal

    • Mr. X
      Mr. X 2 months ago +41

      Some wars are worse than others. What do you not understand about that? Ethiopias history is riddled with genocidal wars

    • Mohamed salad
      Mohamed salad 2 months ago +17

      Poor mentality killing over 600k for no legitimate reason

  • New Era Defense
    New Era Defense 2 months ago

    This video is really interesting and informative. A bundle of thanks from my side as I didn't know about this issue before.

  • Rhyannon Ashford
    Rhyannon Ashford Hour ago

    Egypt could use Lake Nasser to mitigate any water "losses" for the short period of time it takes to fill the GERD. They could request international aid if a hypothetical drought occurs. They could come to the table peacefully, without threatening Ethiopia.
    They've done none of that. They've thrown tantrums over water they don't control. War has never solved Egypt's problems, but it seems to be the only solution they've ever considered.

  • R P
    R P Month ago +2

    This was excellent. I learned so much about an issue that I am willfully ignorant about. Thank you for educating

  • Ken Shafer
    Ken Shafer 2 months ago +1

    I think that it's all a complicated situation, dams have been proven to hold back silt, which is necessary for Egypt , but the flow control is actually very important for downstream living people. It's complicated but I think a mutual agreement would be within reach

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago

      About the silt even without GERD Egyptians farmers doesn't get silt because we have six dam in Sudan and two dam in Egypt
      Sudan spend billions of dollars cleaning her dam from slit in Ethiopia case since we have new generations dam slit can be cleaned out automatically by opening slit gate .
      Yes silt is important but for 10,000 years layer after layer the silt accumulated so they dont need Brad new land every years they an use the same soil again and again it is not use and throw

  • Vegard Baisgård
    Vegard Baisgård Month ago

    I love these vids, cause they are important - for nave persons to understand the world; with it's conflicts and etc, is not as straightforward as one may think. Things.. no matter what is more complicated than you would think,

  • samuel kibret
    samuel kibret 2 months ago +790

    the European union once floated the idea of filling the dam in 15 years and Egypt would pay Ethiopia for delaying the filling. but with the economic situation in Egypt that ship has long sailed into the abyss.

    • Standard Oil of New Jersey
      Standard Oil of New Jersey 2 months ago +171

      Into the Abyssinia

    • Patricia A
      Patricia A 2 months ago +54

      @Standard Oil of New Jersey Into the Addis

    • Justin Okraski
      Justin Okraski 2 months ago +36

      Alternatively, wealthy nations could provide work visas for Egypt’s large underemployed population while the dam is being filled

    • Caprikel
      Caprikel 2 months ago +73

      It also doesn't help that in that situation, Egypt is still losing money from the dam being filled at all, so having to pay money to also lose money from it being filled would be completely unfair from Egypt's perspective.
      It a situation like that Ethiopia would reasonably be expected to pay the Egyptians, but they obviously don't have the economic capability to do so, and as such there is no compromise that would be fair to both sides.

    • samuel kibret
      samuel kibret 2 months ago +74

      @Caprikel why on earth would ethiopia pay. Ethiopia benefit by filing the dam as quickly as possible. when the time duration increases egypt wins and Ethiopia loses billions.

  • Chris W
    Chris W 2 months ago

    There must be precedent for dealing with this issue, I can't imagine this is the first conflict about access to water. They will come to an agreement eventually, a military strike would be asinine just like a rapid filling of the reservoir would be

  • TheShimmy12
    TheShimmy12 2 months ago +2

    I'm all for Ethiopia trying to improve the lives of its citizens, but their government has to understand that their actions may thrust more people into poverty than they are saving. It may even completely collapse the Egyptian government

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago

      Remember there r six dam inside Sudan

  • D.A.
    D.A. 13 days ago

    This seems political and personal and historical but what I can gather is that Ethiopia seems to want to gain control to improve conditions within their country which is admirable but to put whole countries at such a disadvantage seems extreme, HOWEVER, I feel Sudan and Egypt should’ve had a plan c-z in the event water supply is cut for any reason especially being aware it could happen at any time. I hope a peaceful resolution is reached.

  • Marlon
    Marlon 2 months ago

    Great video, very informative and well put together!

  • Chidubem Emma-Ugwuoke
    Chidubem Emma-Ugwuoke 26 days ago

    Cairo isn’t the largest urban area in Africa. It’s 2nd to Lagos, Nigeria. Look it up, it’s the biggest city in Africa. What i find really interesting is that these two countries with the most urban populations are also the wealthiest in Africa so that had a part in their economies. Nigeria has the highest GDP in Africa & Egypt has the 2nd.

  • Ferrosa
    Ferrosa 2 months ago +194

    9 minutes in and I'm thinking "damn, I just learned a lot about something I had no idea about and didn't think I'd even care about, but here I am, fascinated". You're an amazing teacher and I look forward to the rest of this, just wanted to express the feeling.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago

      Just so u know GERD is not a Dam

    • RiZenEpidemic
      RiZenEpidemic 2 months ago

      “Had no idea” you should, and I’m not going to applaud you for not caring about what’s going on in your world.

    • soundscape26
      soundscape26 2 months ago

      @RiZenEpidemic So you think we should be on par with absolutely everything that happens in the world? Not even you I'm sure.

      ZENJI GAMING 2 months ago

      ​@soundscape26 we should care less about Europe and west too. cuz their problem is world problem while whatever happens in other continent is just those continent problems

  • John Beach
    John Beach Month ago

    I hope someone's working on a more efficient and economical way to desalinate large quantities of seawater. California needs this right now. Many countries could prosper and grow.

  • worldsboss
    worldsboss 2 months ago +1

    Surely from the perspective of the Egyptian government, relying so heavily on a single water source is a problem even at the best of times. I know water desalination programs are expensive, but surely that’s an option with the huge coastline that the country possesses?

  • Johnjohn Rice
    Johnjohn Rice Month ago

    GO ETHIOPIA! We are with you, onward and upward! How can Egypt tell another country what to do in this own land.?!?

  • Negusse Habtemichael
    Negusse Habtemichael 2 months ago +1

    I hope the Ethiopians have learned from this destructive war and look forward in developing their nation to prevent poverty and not to be just a prey for their enemies.

  • Esuyawkal Ayenalem Bogale

    By the way half of the white nile water that goes to egypt is from in Ethiopia by the river we called Baro and the other called it akobo but the real amount of the nile water reached egypt averagely is around 87% is from Ethiopia and the other is from white nile from lake victoria

  • Moon Yousif Sulfab
    Moon Yousif Sulfab 2 months ago +81

    As a Sudanese American, I can attest to the factual and unbiased reporting of this documentary.
    Thank you for this authentic work of journalism!

    • Lamartine Zola
      Lamartine Zola 2 months ago

      That problem can be easily solved: invite all the smart people of this world, but dont include the West. Ethiopia/Egypt issue of the Nile river a long standing one, and The US plays with both countries, If Egypt wants to break relatioship with Israel the US goes to Ethiopia and say, "yes can can build", so Egypt has to go back onto the table with Israel.
      Does the Nile river belong to Egypt? no; Does it belong to Ethiopia? no. The beginning is in Ethiopia and DRC. We both use that river so what can we do?
      Why not Egypt build a nuclear energy plant in Ethiopia that will benefit Egypt and other countries in the region and Ethiopia can buy energy at very very low price. Or, we(smart people of thi world) can create a new canal from the Red Sea to Cairo. If China can can go to the Moon, he can also build a canal, so WE.

  • Zap Gun
    Zap Gun 2 months ago +1

    What hasn't been discussed here is the danger of spite. Relations are clearly tense between both nations at the moment, but a military action against the GERD, and a consequent war is a very dangerous proposition for everyone involved, or even vaguely adjacent. The sheer amount of damage both countries can inflict on one another, and their neighbours and the environment in the process, can honestly not be understated.
    In the case of Egypt, especially if they were to garner the cooperation of Sudan, their superiour military power could easily roll over the politically unstable country of Ethiopia; even if it came to an all-out guerrila conflict and the war ground to a halt, the unfair military situation would mean all the devastation would be exclusively taking place on foreign soil.
    Historically, soldiers on foreign soil, especially from a country dealing with its own serious socio-political issues, _especially_ if these soldiers are in a position of power, have been proven... 'forgetful' when it comes to Rules of Engagement and the Geneva Convention. Yer darn rootin' tootin' Yew Es of Ay has been doing an excellent job of crafting examples of that over the past five decades or so. But who can blame them, they're descended from the very colonials that still shape the boundaries of all African nations today, as they say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I digress. Point is, should things escalate into a war, Egypt's military would blow Ethiopia straight back to the stone age and ensure a future of decades - if not centuries - of more poverty and political strife in the country.
    The Ethiopian people, however, would see a Western colonial lackey coming back to put his boots in their face once again, just as they're on the cusp of achieving the impossible and uplifting themselves out of poverty. Egypt is not just standing in the way of their success, it is directly responsible for increased suffering. If that dam falls, the Ethiopians will feel they have nothing left to lose, and that is one _spicy_ situation to find yourself in if you are in control of 80% of the perceived culprit's fresh water. What they'd do, I can obviously not predict, but Egypt would essentially be insulting the cook before dinner is served.
    And then there is Sudan, caught in the middle of this. Should Egypt invade, it's Sudan that would have to contend with military assets tearing through their country and airspace. Should Ethiopia retaliate by sending something downriver? It'd be Sudan who suffers first and foremost. For them, doing whatever they can to ensure an amicable relationship between the militarily superiour Egypt and the strategically situated Ethiopia is not just a matter of international politics, it's a matter of life or death. Sadly, Sudan isn't exactly the most stable country either, and struggling with its own ethnic and economic strife leaves little room for worry about two neighbours duking it out on its lawn.
    The majority of these problems, by the way, come as a direct result of colonial and post-colonial meddling by the West. Both Ethiopia and Egypt were historically very technologically and culturally advanced countries, with robust systems of government and a large population base. There's a very good reason Egypt is a 'cradle of civilisation' and one of the biggest at that, having been continually inhabited for longer than humans have had the idea to stack rocks on top of one another. And while some of the world's oldest structures are in modern-day Egypt, some of the world's oldest human remains come directly from the Southeast African rift valleys, turning up fossils of millions of years old of our ancestors inhabiting the area. And that's not even mentioning the magnificent kingdom that was Ethiopia when Europeans returned to burn it down. Their poverty is the direct result of centuries of slavery and abuse by Western powers, but so is their ethnic divide.
    All over the continent, you'll find country borders drawn by white men half a world away; and all over the continent, you find incredibly diverse cultures clashing with one another because they were forced by these borders to live where they could not. By deciding to enforce the borders they drew, Western colonisers doomed an entire continent to centuries suffering and misery while washing their hands of the whole affair, stating that they are 'free' now to 'do what -we- they please' and that is somehow supposed to make up for centuries of oppression and abuse. To this day, it is still the single most horrible act of indifferent cruelty humanity has inflicted upon itself, aside from choosing to commit this oppression and abuse in the first place; and its aftershocks will continue to be felt until every border is redrawn by native hands (be it with pen or sword), or humanity's last flames burn out.
    TL;DR Stalin wasn't original, he just wasn't Western European before the 1920s. What he did to Russia, Europe did to Africa, and now we're here.

  • Marc Marco
    Marc Marco 2 months ago

    Egypt (among many other countries) is now paying the price of not addressing their demographic explosion in the previous decades.
    This is the "elephant in the room" of many environmental challenges around the world : natural ressources (energy, minerals, water, etc) are finite and yet entire countries and continent behaved as if it was not.
    The entire world should focus on a full-fledged effort to curb the global human population's increase.
    If it's not done in a controlled way, it WILL happen through famines, wars, pandemics etc.

  • Barkot A.
    Barkot A. Month ago +3

    24:19 The point about blowing a dam with a level of 74 km3 of water behind it is suicidal to both Sudan and Egypt. It's like a small sea but flooding like a tsunami. we all know that when the Nile overfloods it destroys everything until it reaches Mediterranean, now imagine a whole lake doing so. Blowing a dam so that a lake larger than lake tana would flow right above me is the stupidest solution! even worse than thirst!

  • Wildfire
    Wildfire 2 months ago +5

    The Sahara did not historically act as a barrier to commerce as you so phrase it. In fact, West and East Africa were home to sprawling trade networks the spanned from the Senegal all the way to India and the furthest reaches of the Islamic world.
    The Sahara is a barrier only to those who cannot or refuse to deal with it. Bedouins were and still are quite literally “built different”, and they took advantage of their unique position to facilitate that desert-defying commerce.

  • John Burns
    John Burns Month ago

    Has Egypt looked at filling the empty Qattara Depression, which is below sea level, forming a lake, and hydro electric plant? The water of the lake created will precipitate rainfall. It will also be a transport artery using boats.

  • Misikir Adane
    Misikir Adane 2 months ago +91

    Hey there, thanks for sharing your perspective as an Ethiopian on the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam and the current political tensions surrounding it. It's great to hear that Real Life Lore's reporting on this issue is accurate and informative.

    • Hikm Suna
      Hikm Suna 2 months ago

      GERD is not a Dam!

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    • Teafall Bliss
      Teafall Bliss 2 months ago +1

      🤣Ethiopia is “messy” and we are here for the tea 💕, the Afro heritage country who conquered anti-Africa troops from European Italy, in all choosable names, picking “renaissance” for the GERD hahaha yes! Ethiopia forever!

    • Ayele Gelaneh
      Ayele Gelaneh 2 months ago

      ​@Hikm Suna Then what is it?

  • Quincy Morris
    Quincy Morris 2 months ago

    Let’s hope they find a peaceful solution. Seems a more nuanced issue than you usually see in geopolitics

  • Sam Gerland
    Sam Gerland 2 months ago

    It would be completely stupid to leave the river be, and use a incremental decimal point of the desert for solar generation and energy storage :) It could literaly power ALL of the regions powers without any concerns for else.

  • Luck Rock
    Luck Rock Month ago +2

    This is why self sufficiency is key to global peace. Don't ask others to forfeit rights that are most geologically fundamental to it's citizens. That doesn't mean that commerce, trade can't financially compensate losses according to amicable agreements which self sufficiency generally and typically, commonly sustains

  • Saytam_r
    Saytam_r 2 months ago

    i know it would be hella expensive, but couldnt theoretically Egypt do the same that Israel is doing with turning the salt water into a drinkanble one (desalination)? but i guess they would need much MUCH more than Israel is currently desalinating