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    I show you what a minimal surface is
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  • Action Lab Shorts
    Action Lab Shorts  3 months ago +1052

    I only had one minute to explain this. Watch the full length video here for a better description of a minimal surface! clip-share.net/video/_t-3lCZXlPM/video.html

    • keeganjd17
      keeganjd17 11 days ago

      ​@Goofy Strats jhkbb:v:%_jh09

    • 42paparia42
      42paparia42 16 days ago +1

      With all due respect, if you can't give a good explanation within a minute, DO NOT MAKE A ONE MINUTE VIDEO.

    • Michael von Reich
      Michael von Reich 3 months ago +1

      Minimal surfaces seem to be more Hyperbolic than Euclidean

    • Teal
      Teal 3 months ago +2

      @kruose Mean, median and mode concepts are easy to grasp and taught in high school, yes, but that’s like saying understanding 1+1 lets you understand integration. I don’t believe high school mathematics teaches you curvature or what “zero mean” means when used to describe curvature, unless you take some sort of advanced class. I understand that jargon can seem simple when you have the knowledge already, but this one is seriously not in the standard syllabus. I’d be wondering where you live if they teach you that in high school

    • Svejo Baron
      Svejo Baron 3 months ago +2

      @kruose Well I did understand it in my own language, but I had to realize that my maths technical english vocabulary isnt the greatest

  • Adnane Amara
    Adnane Amara 4 months ago +22656

    For the first time EVER, I don't understand your explanation at all 😢

    • Games For Noobs
      Games For Noobs 10 days ago

      the soap covers like the least area it has to to connect to the edges like "the path of least resistance"!! So if the shape of the soap matches the shape, than its like the edges were "filled in" with the SMALLEST surface area possible

    • Daylen
      Daylen 16 days ago

      It's just a terrible explanation lol

    • jaden dennys
      jaden dennys 17 days ago

      same here lol. first time

    • Mustakrakish
      Mustakrakish 17 days ago

      imagine bending a wire to match the ridges/edges of one of the eggs. you dip it in soap. the soap matches the form of the egg (the part missing from the wireframe) because that substance is essentially a minimal surface calculator

    • Kennan
      Kennan 21 day ago

      yeah this short doesn't include a demonstration, which is how most of us understand

  • Billy
    Billy 3 months ago +1558

    “It _should_ do said thing that I just explained”
    *doesn’t give a demo*

    • Y K
      Y K 16 days ago

      @Roundhouse no!

    • Roundhouse
      Roundhouse 22 days ago

      @AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA correct

    • AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 22 days ago +1

      ​@Roundhouse gay

    • PotatoClips
      PotatoClips 26 days ago

      Doesnt show in the full video either, but I think the reason is that the egg is is the 3D demo of minimal surface, which is the equivalent of a bubble form. Dipping the egg might look cool but might also cause confusion. Like if he 3D printed the cube's bubble so he could show it without having to be careful, it would be besides the point to then dip that in soap.

    • Daniel Yuan
      Daniel Yuan 29 days ago +2

      Because it's hard to pull off and the demonstration is hard to see. That's why he gave a demo on the cylinder and said to imagine the same thing on the egg.

  • BritishBoy
    BritishBoy 3 months ago +2446

    Am I the only one that got this?
    If I’m not mistaken he was explaining that a good way of testing if something is minimal surface is by bending a wire frame around them and dipping them in soap. If the bubble film creates the exact shape of the object that you wrapped the wire around, then it is minimal surface.
    The can was not minimal surface because the wireframe produced a bubble film that was bowed inwards (not cylindrical).
    The reason the egg is minimal surface is because no matter where you wrap the wire around on the egg’s weird swoops and curves and create a closed loop, you will always have the shape of the egg (or at least the section you wrapped wire around) if dipped in bubble juice. If the egg was just made out of a grid of squares then wrapping a wire around it wouldn’t give you the true shape of the egg.
    Maybe this helped? This is what I understood of it anyways 😅

    • peterman dealer
      peterman dealer 25 days ago

      No it didn’t help that much😢

    • Porsuk
      Porsuk 26 days ago

      @Fred You're super smart but you've time do jibber jabber about yourself over nothing ?

    • YourWorstNightmare
      YourWorstNightmare 26 days ago

      OHHHH, THANK YOU

    • Menace To Society
      Menace To Society 27 days ago

      I still don't understand :(

    • SOLO
      SOLO 28 days ago +1

      I got what he was trying to explain the first time I watched the video so I'm with you
      It's Surface tension which causes the minimal Surface area

  • Syahrul
    Syahrul 3 months ago +193

    For those who don't understand, just focus on the bubble part.
    It's like displacement but for 3D object, and bubbles which are created with soap film is know to shape itself around a loop with the fewest amount as possible, this help find the minimal amount of surface needed for an object.

    • RPG nerd
      RPG nerd 12 days ago

      I looked at this entire chain and all I gotta say is "What?"

    • Idiot Buster
      Idiot Buster 3 months ago +2

      @Dylan B the use of the word displacement.
      It took my a long time to realise OP meant geometric displacement and not material displacement.

    • Arch-Magos Dominus Flavinarius
      Arch-Magos Dominus Flavinarius 3 months ago +1

      The bubbles try to have minimal surface for stability, and efficiency. Therefore one can use bubbles to see the minimal surface of material within a loop. The can is not minimal surface, because instead of going inwards like the bubble, it goes straight. The egg is made to always have the same form as the bubble if you make a loop around any of the forms on the egg.

    • Dylan B
      Dylan B 3 months ago

      @Catto what don’t you get?

    • Catto
      Catto 3 months ago +8

      I dont get your explanation either..

  • 01 Abadiano, Charles Abadiano

    Return me back to the moment where i wasn't confused about any of this.

  • RDAalltheway
    RDAalltheway 4 months ago +2629

    This really needs a part 2.

  • Nate
    Nate 3 months ago +4

    Step 1: Take an object
    Step 2: Draw a closed shape on it(triangle, circle, bean, whatever)
    Step 3: Bend a wire frame to match the shape you’ve drawn.
    Step 4: Dip wire frame into soap
    Step 5: If the soap fits perfectly inside the wireframe. Bam. thats the minimal surface
    If the soap doesn’t fit the wire frame, then its not the minimal surface.
    Extra: No matter what shape you make out on the surface of the egg, if you dip your wireframe in soap it will fit inside the wireframe perfectly
    Hope this helps

    • Mohit Singh
      Mohit Singh 3 months ago

      The soap seemed to fit quite well inside the wire frame he made from the can though

    • Brinette Valorie
      Brinette Valorie 3 months ago

      Zamn, this was the best explanation. Thanks a ton! I kinda understood the video, but now.... the definition of a minimal space is clear to me.

  • Hello Hi
    Hello Hi 3 months ago

    Is this mathematically defined via surface integration? If so, do you have any resources to learn about those, because I haven't encountered surface integrals very directly in any of my classes thus far

  • Rex
    Rex 3 months ago +2

    For all my brothers/sisters confused about the explanation, I got you. Basically a soap film possesses surface tension and associated surface energy. So the film tries to contract as to minimise its surface area which in turn minimises its surface energy. That is why rain drops are completely spherical ( ignoring gravity and other forces ) because for a given volume sphere has minimum surface area : )

    • Brinette Valorie
      Brinette Valorie 3 months ago

      Oh, so that's why the curving of the soap film equals to minimal surface! TY!!!

  • YASH RAWAT
    YASH RAWAT 3 months ago +2

    Just the fact how surface tension and minimising energy just ties in with how soap solution is a natural " generator for these surfaces is amazing"

  • 2pounce
    2pounce 4 months ago +888

    I don't understand the wire frame part. What determines the length of the closed loop?

    • Jordan Watts
      Jordan Watts 3 months ago

      @Elijah Negron your explanation actually makes sense. His didn't

    • Fred
      Fred 3 months ago

      It doesnt matter

    • K Locke
      K Locke 3 months ago +1

      The loop is drawn over the round shape. Size is unimportant, because the results will be the same regardless.

    • Uku
      Uku 3 months ago

      Any closed loop I think.

    • Sapphireous
      Sapphireous 3 months ago

      Check out the description for the full video! :) It’s explained really well and there’s a bunch of great demonstrations in it.

  • KronicleMMA
    KronicleMMA 3 months ago +162

    Me after watching this 700 times: 🤔

  • Sovenate
    Sovenate 3 months ago +1

    So basically, since the can surface isn't the minimum surface, you see the bubble in the wire concave (i.e. fold into the wire). That being said, he if did the same thing to the egg anywhere on the surface, the bubble would become level with the wire itself, compared to being concaved with the can.

  • David Bond
    David Bond 3 months ago

    The surface area is less with the bubble because it curved in (around a corner), whereas the can is flat which makes it have more area.
    So all the points curving in on the egg is actually less than if it was going over the egg normally, for the different shapes added on the normal egg surface.
    That's what I could get from this.

  • Deep
    Deep  3 months ago

    The wire frame acts as a framework for the bubble. The bubble bends inwards and is not flat on the wire, this shows that the cylinder's surface is not optimal surface as it is not the most minimal surface area. Why soap water, it creates a film with high surface tension and hence gives the minimal surface area. Why that shape for the drawing, it's because he is taking a random part of the can. In case of batwing egg, every such area has minimal surface area. Hope this clears up some confusion.

  • Adrian Cam
    Adrian Cam 3 months ago

    A minimal surface seems to be that soap-film that forms with a closed loop. With his can example, a can can have a closed loop on it, but the shape of the can in that loop (cylindrical) does not match the shape of the soap-film (curved, minimal area).
    I'm guessing with the egg, if you were to form a loop anywhere and then dip that loop in soap, the pattern you'd see on the soap film would match the pattern on the eggs surface. Unlike the can, where the objects surface did not match the soap-film.

  • SemenTheSailor
    SemenTheSailor 3 months ago

    Ok I’m going to try and explain. Minimal surface are is the smallest amount of surface area to cover a shape. In 2D it’s pretty easy, you’d just colour in the area of the shape. But in 3D it gets weird. Imagine you have a circle on a piece of paper, now curl the paper so the circle is in a taco shape. Now we want to find the smallest surface area possible for our taco shape. If we just coloured in the circle that wouldn’t be the smallest amount of surface area as we have a whole new dimension to make shortcuts with. He essentially made a slightly deformed version of our taco shape with can. The cool part is that bubble solution will always find a shapes minimal surface area due to surface tension. So when he dips our taco shape into the bubble solution we see it makes a sort of curvy Pringle shape. That shape is was the minimal surface area of our taco.
    Those eggs were 3D printed representations of irregular shape’s minimal surface area.
    Also, it proves that Pringles are specifically designed to use as little ingredients possible to take up the most space.

  • Chirag Rastogi
    Chirag Rastogi 3 months ago

    It's quite interesting because the minimal surface area problem is precisely the type of problem a Quantum Computer can solve. That would help us with things like better shapes for structures or something as cool as the geometry of black holes!

  • Mat
    Mat 3 months ago

    It took me two watches to understand that. So it means within the defined shape, the bubble conforms and basically takes “shortcuts” to make its shape making its minimal surface form. The starting shape that was taken from the can is more of an inefficient way of making the shape and when you put a bubble on it, it conforms to the minimal surface area (if you could say) it can create with that shape that is defined.

  • Fuzunga
    Fuzunga 4 months ago +4491

    I have absolutely no idea what this is about.

    • Christoph Zeit
      Christoph Zeit 3 months ago

      It's completely useless bullshit

    • Cristhiam Soto
      Cristhiam Soto 3 months ago

      Same

    • Artie Baca
      Artie Baca 3 months ago +1

      @米空軍パイロット
      実用的です。多くの場合、これを適用すると、内部構造が常に最強であるとは限らないことがわかります。完璧な例は外骨格です。
      Ikutsu ka no ten de, koreha yori jitsuyō-tekidesu. Ōku no baai, kore o tekiyō suru to, naibu kōzō ga tsuneni saikyōdearu to wa kagiranai koto ga wakarimasu. Kanpekina rei wa soto kokkakudesu.

    • 米空軍パイロット
      米空軍パイロット 3 months ago +2

      @Artie Baca Yes. You can make something with the outline of a ball but having internal curves that act as better springs than just a solid ball.

    • Artie Baca
      Artie Baca 3 months ago +2

      Sick! so basically any shape can keep it's same relative structure without it actually having any surface area at all loosing it's overall mass, can be used in many practical ways to save on waiste in return 😱. think of this as a solid ball instead of an egg you can youse this method to make for Instance rubber bouncy balls into a "rubber bouncy ball" and take away it's structurel weight over all still keeping a ball but loosing most of it's cost because of access material 🤷

  • foreshadowing_panda
    foreshadowing_panda 3 months ago

    "In mathematics, a minimal surface is a surface that locally minimizes its area. This is equivalent to having zero mean curvature The term "minimal surface" is used because these surfaces originally arose as surfaces that minimized total surface area subject to some constraint. Physical models of area-minimizing minimal surfaces can be made by dipping a wire frame into a soap solution, forming a soap film, which is a minimal surface whose boundary is the wire frame. However, the term is used for more general surfaces that may self-intersect or do not have constraints. For a given constraint there may also exist several minimal surfaces with different areas (for example, see minimal surface of revolution): the standard definitions only relate to a local optimum, not a global optimum."------Wiki... and no, this wiki didnt help me either😅🤷‍♀️

  • Wrong Dimension
    Wrong Dimension 3 months ago

    Thanks ❤️ u just explain how to make things look minimal

  • JELLY Gaster
    JELLY Gaster 3 months ago

    It's about the missing space, by minimal surface he means that there is a space defined by a closed loop, therefore creating the minimal surface. If you look closely, you'll see that the egg actually has bean-like shapes that are as small as possible so the egg keeps standing.

  • Zepper Man
    Zepper Man 3 months ago

    Basically, say you have two points.
    A straight line between those points would be the minimal distance. Any deviation would be above minimal.
    If you have three points all on the same plane, a flat triangle with 3 straight lines would be minimal. Any curvature along the edges or z axis would be above minimal.
    In other words, any point along the minimal distance will have an equal sum distance between all 3 points that cannot go any shorter.
    The bubble defines where those points are.

  • Jader Alacevich
    Jader Alacevich 3 months ago

    If you put the frame in the soap, it will try to be as little stretched as possible, the soap occupies the smallest surface possible for the frame.
    In that egg it already has the minimal surface used

  • ak illa
    ak illa 3 months ago

    please do a demo PT 2 love your videos!

  • Mika Joel
    Mika Joel 11 days ago

    Oh, I get it!
    The rounded bulges the egg and can shape aren't a minimal surface because when a portion of that shape is tested with the soap film (a soap film covering the surface of the shape is known to be a minimal surface area), the shape doesn't resemble the same shape of the tested shape. The soap film doesn't bulge out as the can does.

  • Simon's Stuff
    Simon's Stuff 4 months ago +4949

    I was waiting for the „let me show you“ part, but i got disappointed.

    • 文子
      文子 3 months ago

      @ッAzubi_Meatball4349ッ þ is used in þe. hence “ye olde tavern”

    • ッAzubi_Meatball4349ッ
      ッAzubi_Meatball4349ッ 3 months ago

      @文子 I think that’s the incorrect use of the thorn
      Thorn = hard th, as in “thorn”
      ð

    • no
      no 3 months ago

      @文子 He still doesn't show it in the full video buddy

    • lucanisokay
      lucanisokay 3 months ago

      just watch the actual video he made

    • Mathijs Raeven
      Mathijs Raeven 3 months ago +1

      @文子 but he doesn't show it in the full video

  • Ninj S
    Ninj S 3 months ago

    That is so fascinating.. I almost feel like solving this would get me this close to being capable of solving singularity and come back to tick my watch, to not to watch this video the first time..!

  • Crystalline Punk
    Crystalline Punk 3 days ago

    I believe minimal surface is the minimal distance between two sides. So the minimal surface formed by the bubble is the closest point between the two and isn't actually the shape of the can. So the eggs are what minimum distance between certain points on the egg would look like.
    But I could be wrong.

  • Abhishek
    Abhishek 3 months ago

    Very well explained!!

  • Jacob Harrison
    Jacob Harrison 20 days ago

    I mean I get what he is saying, but when would you ever need this data? I'd love a video showing what minimal surface calculations are needed for in day to day life.

  • sinead
    sinead 3 months ago

    I think a second video with a more simplified explanation would be in order, maybe break each stage down into a step by step and use some metaphors. I love your videos because of how well you explain each theory and experiment but this one flopped for me.

  • Rudolph Thompson
    Rudolph Thompson 3 months ago

    WOW!
    what a great demonstration!

  • Aweave
    Aweave 3 months ago

    Watched it a couple times and came to this conclusion: If you draw a buch of silly goofy forms on an object (in this case an egg), build the 3D object with these formes out of wires and dip it in soap, you would get these results.

  • Superaws
    Superaws 3 months ago

    For people who don't completely understand, the soap will pull itself as tight as possible. The film will then be put in a state where it is taking the least amount of area, because any extra is pulled tight. It's the same principle as pulling a string taut, but in three dimensions

  • Dunamis Wihmee
    Dunamis Wihmee 4 months ago +146

    I watched this multiple times and I still don’t get it. We need a demo

  • Christopher Bourn
    Christopher Bourn 3 months ago

    The soap bubble uses physics to find the smallest possible surface area in a wire frame. If you were to select an area on that egg and model the loop with a wire frame, and dip it in that soap, it should make the same shape as the egg where you selected the area

  • Doorstep Mushroom
    Doorstep Mushroom 3 months ago

    For anyone who doesn’t understand,
    I believe the idea is that the bubble will naturally make the smallest surface area possible around the wire, and that using the wire around any part of the sphere will result in it having the least amount of surface area

  • Usman Saleem
    Usman Saleem 3 months ago

    The boundary is the key to understanding here. The minimal surface area is always with in a boundary with closed loop. It doesn't mean that the egg had minimal surface area, it is entirely wrong to call it that also.

  • Dmax drag0n
    Dmax drag0n 3 months ago

    Gonna need a part two on this one

  • hippowannabe
    hippowannabe 4 months ago +69

    I didn't understand this so I watched the full video from the description to clear things up. I do recommend watching the whole video, but I think the part that explains this the best is from 2:35 to 3:24.

    • Maarten Keij
      Maarten Keij 3 months ago +2

      Thanks man, your comment saved my brain from melting

  • Josiah Vick
    Josiah Vick 3 months ago

    You do a great job at explaining things in a way I understand but I think this one is just so far over my head I still don't get it

  • alPine Notallowedtonotputalastnamesohereyougo

    I think what he’s trying to say is that the surface area goes from being straight or curved like on the can. To them being concaved which lowers how much surface area there is. That’s just a hunch though since I’m not 100% sure

  • Venres
    Venres 3 months ago +1

    This reminds me a lot lot about the video of the principle of turning a sphere inside out.

  • Yusuf Demir
    Yusuf Demir 3 months ago +1

    But doesnt the surface area increases when bend angle increases? The shortest way to go from A to B is by going straight. So why is this different?

  • sina jebraili
    sina jebraili 4 months ago +4739

    I didn't understand any of this.

    • Basil Valentine
      Basil Valentine 3 months ago +1

      I understood it completely. I cannot explain it to you though, because I am lying and I did not understand any of it either.

    • Karl Niccolo Jao
      Karl Niccolo Jao 3 months ago +1

      Yeah

    • Artie Baca
      Artie Baca 3 months ago +1

      Sick! so basically any shape can keep it's same relative structure without it actually having any surface area at all loosing it's overall mass, can be used in many practical ways to save on waiste in return 😱. think of this as a solid ball instead of an egg you can youse this method to make for Instance rubber bouncy balls into a "rubber bouncy ball" and take away it's structurel weight over all still keeping a ball but loosing most of it's cost because of access material 🤷

    • TheDemonicDude
      TheDemonicDude 3 months ago +1

      @John Derat that makes sense I understood the mini surface part but couldn't understand where the egg came into it

    • CannonSoup
      CannonSoup 3 months ago

      nevermind, just said absolute nonsence

  • Delwyn
    Delwyn 3 months ago

    I think everyone is hung up on the shape of the egg and that's where the confusion lies. From my understanding, the minimal surface is just a way to test if a shape has a minimal surface or not (by wrapping a wire on it and dipping it in soap). The resulting shape that the soap bath would give you would be the minimal surface area that you could create based on the original shape.
    Now, the egg looks the way it does because the wire wrapped on it is randomly done (well, at least not uniformly) in enclosed loops which creates minimal surfaces for parts of the egg (as it would be difficult to do otherwise if you consider the shape of an egg).
    The "test" that Action Lab was mentioning is a test to see whether the enclosed loop sections of the wire would actually create minimal surfaces on the egg.

  • Phillip Greer
    Phillip Greer 3 months ago

    Ok, so the soap will fill in the shape in the way that requires the least surface area, and there for is the most efficient. So the ring with the can proved not to be the most efficient. But if you did this with the egg. The soap would perfectly match.

  • Huw Follant Year L6
    Huw Follant Year L6 3 months ago

    Ok so basically it's the least amount of surface area the bubble mixture takes up when spread over that area. The way it sits is not the same as the wire taken from the can drawing because the wire has a higher 2D surface area than the minimum the bubble mixture can form. The egg is minimal surface because if the wire was made into any shape on its surface, the bubble mixture would conform exactly to its twists and turns with a flat surface.

  • Ashutosh Singh
    Ashutosh Singh 3 months ago +1

    It's a very clever and very very easy way to understand minimal surface area.
    Bubbles or soap film or any liquid tries to attain minimum surface.
    You proved that for cylindrical shape of can the minimal surface is not same as there is some inward inclination of soap film. Now for egg when you would use same wire a similar minimum shape would be observed.
    Man you have my respects.
    For teaching someone maxima and minima using differential these clips can help them visualise the concepts

  • jack
    jack 3 months ago +33

    This is a really difficult concept to convey as someone who studies topology thank you so much for conveying these concepts so well

    • Splayharmony
      Splayharmony 29 days ago

      @Damian Christopher It's a complicated, hard to explain topic crammed into a minute's length. It is only the fault of the length of the video. He explains it well within that time.

    • Damian Christopher
      Damian Christopher 29 days ago

      @Splayharmony then whose fault is? is it on the majority of people who watched this to understand it and not on him to make it understandable to the majority of viewers? just look a the top four comments, three of them are people saying they don’t get it or asking for clarification.

    • Splayharmony
      Splayharmony 29 days ago

      @Damian Christopher through no fault of him

    • Damian Christopher
      Damian Christopher 3 months ago +1

      yeah, he didn’t convey them well, we got no idea what he’s talking about.

  • bebop palooka
    bebop palooka 3 months ago

    Some people have given good explanations in the comments, but I’m still confused as to how we’re defining “surface”. How does a concave ‘C’ shape have less surface area than one that takes the shape of the can? If the batwing egg was submerged in water, surely more of the surface would be touching water than a normal egg?

  • amphitrichous
    amphitrichous 3 months ago

    You're super smart and I love your videos, but this time it's too complex to teach.

  • Lee Berry
    Lee Berry 3 months ago

    You also defined the definition of the anticipated curiosity and then uttermost disappointment ,I demand you demonstrate the flipping egg bubble 😎

  • Adrian Yeager
    Adrian Yeager 3 months ago

    Great video! Now, can you explain it in layman‘s terms?

    • Daniel Yuan
      Daniel Yuan 29 days ago

      He did explain it in layman's terms. But not well.
      If he explained it different ways, you would expect a lot of complicated mathematical notations.

  • lovely luna ♡
    lovely luna ♡ 3 months ago

    Ok I don't get the egg part but with the can part, he's basically saying that the "minimal surface area" is represented by the shape of the bubble solution when you dip the wire in it. So, he wrapped the wire around the can to see what the minimal surface area SHOULD be for a can of that shape and size, but we can see how the bubble solution curves inwards on itself instead of being a straight line like the wall of the can is, so the can does not have the minimal surface area because it doesn't match the shape of the bubble solution. I have a hard time understanding how it connects to the egg, though... If you wrap the wire around the egg and dip it in bubble solution, it looks like the weird shape of that egg?? That's what it sounds like he's saying but that doesn't make any sense at all. I wish he'd demonstrated that last part 😂
    Edit: Watched again and I think I get it! You'd have to wrap the wire around the insides too, since the egg shape has a bunch of holes in it, it would be a really complicated way to wrap the wire around it but if you DID manage to get a wire loop in the shape of the egg, the full shape of the egg would end up being the exact shape of the bubble solution. You can see how parts of the egg curve inward on itself, kind of like a halfpipe rather than having straight smooth walls like the soda can, which we saw the bubble solution also did the halfpipe thing so it makes sense that the egg could match that shape.

  • Brinette Valorie
    Brinette Valorie 3 months ago

    By the way, is the "Batwing Egg" a natural or man-made thing? I'm assuming the latter so far. It looks pretty interesting.

    • Daniel Yuan
      Daniel Yuan 29 days ago

      The mathematical shape of the batwing egg is discovered. But I'm pretty sure this doesn't appear in nature.

  • L
    L 3 months ago

    On the wire he made around the can, the bubble film indents into where the can would be. whereas if he dipped the wire after wrapping the wire around the egg, the bubble film would match the egg’s surface

  • King Evx
    King Evx 3 months ago

    What he's trying to explain is that the cans curved cylindrical shape has more surface area than the same shape in a bubble because the bubble will naturally take the form of the least surface area, hence the curve in the bubble.

  • The Real Drake
    The Real Drake 4 months ago +339

    My brain got melted the first 5 seconds💀

    • Professor Coglefield
      Professor Coglefield 3 months ago +7

      And last 5 seconds… and the middle 5 seconds… and the whole video

  • RadioReaper89
    RadioReaper89 3 months ago

    Imagine a house, 3d printed using this design as it's base. My dream home

  • Pluntch Gunster
    Pluntch Gunster 3 months ago +1

    I can honestly say I’ve never been this confused from an explanation.
    What’s an egg?

  • PROkill5701C
    PROkill5701C 3 months ago

    If u take 2 rings and place them parallel to each other in a distance. Then wrap a cloth (non-elastic) around it, so that its shape is a cylinder (hollow)
    Then take a string and put around the cloth in the middle of the cylinder and tight it.
    Now when u tight it, the cylindrical shape will change. But the cloth should expand (or the distance between the rings should decrease) to change the shape.
    Then how it becomes a minimal surface ?

  • Noah Smith
    Noah Smith 3 months ago

    Y’all, it’s the same concept of how a ball rolling down an incline’s fastest path is not a straight line from point to point, but a curved slope from point to point

  • Kyle Royce & The World
    Kyle Royce & The World 3 months ago

    I got it, but I had to watch 3 times to fully understand. Nice! 😂 are there other batwing objects?

  • EchoGamer 16
    EchoGamer 16 3 months ago +9

    Seems to be some confusion so let’s see if I can simplify this.
    The closed loop drawn on the item is just the shape made out of the bent wire. Minimal surface area is the absolute least amount of space that the surface could occupy.
    The soap solution helps to check for minimal surface area because it will automatically create tension that eliminates ang excess surface.
    Because the can is a cylinder, and a rigid one, the shape of the can is not minimal surface area, as demonstrated by the comparatively warped shape of the soap.

  • Scott Bailey
    Scott Bailey 28 days ago +1

    My nan used to have a bunch of things similar to those in a bowl on her coffee table. I’m sure they were different but a nice memory

  • Firebird
    Firebird 3 months ago

    Yeah not the same as minimal surface area (which has to be qualified as per volume or per mass). The most minimum surface area for a 3d object (per enclosed volume) is always a sphere…

  • John Derat
    John Derat 4 months ago +5

    For those who don't understand, minimal surfaces are surfaces with the least amount of surface area. Soap will always try to make minimal surfaces. And these batwing eggs have minimal surfaces all over, meaning that if you take a wire and bend it to any shape on one of these eggs, the shape that the soap will make will match the batwing egg perfectly.

    • Splayharmony
      Splayharmony 3 months ago

      @bpdubb least area in the surface

    • bpdubb
      bpdubb 3 months ago

      I mean I get what minimum or minimal means. But your explanation is just more confusing.

    • bpdubb
      bpdubb 3 months ago +1

      “Minimal surface areas are surfaces with the least amount of surface area.”
      What in Gods name does that mean?

    • bpdubb
      bpdubb 3 months ago +2

      Annnnnnd still confused.

  • Nicholas Deitrich
    Nicholas Deitrich 3 months ago

    You are conflating actual surface area with minimum energy surfaces. These are both calc-3 subjects. Minimal surface energy does not equal minimum surface area. Hope this helps!

  • inkDfist
    inkDfist 3 months ago

    Your explanation was fine, I don't get why so many people complain, just watch it a few more times to understand it

  • 2nd_place
    2nd_place 3 months ago +2

    How does something have a minimal surface if it doesn’t take the shortest distance between two points? You’ll need more material to cover an arc between two points 1m apart on the ground vs. two points 1m apart on flat ground.

  • Kyuu Kirigaya
    Kyuu Kirigaya 3 months ago

    I love the part when he shows us him dipping that egg into the soluton

  • Fabian Sanchez
    Fabian Sanchez 3 months ago

    Here’s an explanation. Think of how on a 2d plane, the most efficient path from one point to another is a straight line, you know this the most efficient because the line it would produce would be shorter in length than one that had any curves. A minimal surface would take this principle into the 3D world we perceive, the shape formed on the can (which to remind you is meant to be imagined as filled in, like how he drew it on the can) is not minimal because each point on that line on the can he drew does not reach every other point on the can in the most efficient path, thusly it is not minimal. The reason the soap exposes minimal surface is because the surface tension pulls it into the most efficient form naturally.

    • Fabian Sanchez
      Fabian Sanchez 3 months ago

      @Cassie postmodernism??? 🤣🤣😭 yes I’m explaining minimal surface to deconstruct the social bedrock of my society, ur absolutely right.

  • Under Edits
    Under Edits 3 months ago

    So basically bubble solution covers the area of a perimeter more idealy than a cylinder, the batwing egg mimics the patterns of the bubble solution, this is my best guess and explanation.

  • Joseph Peters
    Joseph Peters 3 months ago

    So the wire frame is the object and the soap surface is the (material) (metal,soap) that’s required to get to the other side of the object aka the minimum amount of material to connect the sides of the object and the soap finds that small amount because of then tensile strength pulling on the soap

  • John Mobley
    John Mobley 3 months ago

    To me it was pretty obvious why it’s a minimum surface egg. Well I THOUGHT wrong. I thought There’s a lot more of the egg that would be there then if it were a normal leg but then but it has the least amount of surface area touching the surface. And I left confused.

  • Prashant Pratap Singh
    Prashant Pratap Singh 3 months ago +3

    I feel the converse was true.
    The soap film had more surface area than the can itself

  • Aenora
    Aenora 3 days ago +1

    I literally understood the concept the first time i watched this wth i dont get how some people are so confused

  • Cabbage Cat
    Cabbage Cat 3 months ago

    I was hoping for you to dip the egg in the water to see how large of surface area the bubble made, I get the explanation, just wanted to see the results

  • StitchTheFox
    StitchTheFox 3 months ago

    I understood the explanation. but I also already knew what a minimal surface was.

  • Radke32
    Radke32 3 months ago

    This video needs a part 2

  • B2
    B2 3 months ago

    This actually needs a full video

  • infiniLor
    infiniLor 3 months ago

    But wait... the area the wire provides is entirely dependent upon the placement of each mm of said wire, right?

  • Jack Dalliday
    Jack Dalliday 3 months ago

    I feel like I’m in calculus class watching this. Trying my hardest to understand, but not getting any of it 😂

  • Girl in the Striped Sweater 🏳️‍🌈

    I thought maybe the edible hit too hard but I'm relieved to see that I'm not the only one who is confusion 😂

  • Gary King
    Gary King 3 months ago +322

    I’ve left more confused than I came in

  • Hyper Cube
    Hyper Cube 3 months ago

    AFTER REWATCHING I THINK I UNDERSTAND
    When he draws the shape on the can clindar can fills the shape with a surface (inside the blue circle)
    When he bends the wire to match the shape he drew and dipped ir in the soap the soap took the shape of a minimum surface note that it was concave (curved inward). Not matching the Curved surface of the can which was convex (Curved outward)
    So on the egg if you draw a closed shape on it, inside that shape will be minimal surface. And if you folded a wire to match the shape you drew on the egg, dipped it in soap, the bubble in the wire would line up with the surface of the egg.
    I'm not sure if I got the explanation right but I think that's what the video is trying to convey.
    I'm not sure what exactly a minimal surface is in the context of math and calculating it though.

    • K Locke
      K Locke 3 months ago +1

      Handy in engineering applications. You may be able to determine the strongest shape for the least amount of material volume, saving material costs and weight.

  • ok then
    ok then 3 months ago +2

    “the test will be easy to understand”
    the test:

  • aku
    aku 3 months ago

    I wonder what kind of curvature it forms. My instincts say it follows a sinh type curvature, but I can't be sure.

  • Cody Busby
    Cody Busby 3 months ago

    Literally the best channel on Clip-Share

  • Ömer Efe Ulusoy
    Ömer Efe Ulusoy 4 months ago +8

    Waiting for ep 2 because I can’t imagine how it would look

  • HubbzZ
    HubbzZ 3 months ago

    Not sure what we’ve learned in this one but A for effort

  • annotatedkate
    annotatedkate 3 months ago

    Genuine lol
    I watched this twice and then dove into the comments.
    Sincerely, thank you for the heartiest laugh I've had in a while. Sometimes things just go wrong and that is ok! 😂

  • Rt Harmon
    Rt Harmon 3 months ago

    So what happens if you get the whole egg in the soap?
    will then be no bubbles on it anywhere?

  • Alan Sabu
    Alan Sabu Month ago

    The minimum area required while trying to minimalize a surface area in a way that it still fits the 'definition' (or shape, dimensions) of the original surface?

  • MindlessReader
    MindlessReader 3 months ago

    I understood it, your explanation wasn’t a problem, its just kind of an odd topic so it takes a moment to understand

  • Harsha Vardhan
    Harsha Vardhan 3 months ago

    Won't a circle (circular cross section) have the smallest surface area?
    Update: Never mind, got it