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Noah is correct you can say whatever you want 😂😂😂 bunch of domestic champions calling themselves Fantasy world championships 😂😂

You literally only have to win one race all year to become world champion in track. Just one. What does one win all season in the NBA get you?

Its just so easy.... if you have a national league, you are not world champion by winning it. Dosnt matter if this national league ist the biggest national league of the world. You are the world champion for beating every other nation in an international tournament.

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USA citizens are generally... Well, slow in head and full of their ignorant s+++! Nobody out there on social media could understand what "There's ain't no flags in NBA" means! The man is right. The World is fighting for their countries, flags, anthems, people! They're not there for $200.000.000 checks! If some of them play in NBA, it's just a well paid job! Nothing more! When their countries need them, they're in planes towards them! I hope I cleared it up for US citizens on social media. Maybe they won't be so dumb in future!

I don't care if you're the best team in the best league with the best player around the world, it still one Nation League, by one National Association. Barca with the best team win Champoins league, can still be loose to santos in WCC. so them best in the world not equal World Champions, it is common sense and basic education.stop emmbarrasing yourself by definition, let your president do embarrasing things like always, grow up USA. open your eyes and mind, the world are not USA.

Lyle is right , is like man city win the premier league and call himself world champions , it doesnt make sense

Everything here is DUMB PERIOD?

Whoever wins the NBA title, is probably the best "club" team in the world, but if you want to give yourself that title then the only way to do it, is to hold a competiton, involving the best teams from every league ..... Just as in football (soccer), the winners of the various continental titles, take part in the FIFA Club World Cup.

It’s just a title. NBA World Champions, WBC Heavyweight Champion of the world, UFC Heavyweight Champion of the World, WWE World Heavyweight Champion, WCW World Heavyweight Heavyweight, IWGP World Heavyweight Champion, NWA World Heavyweight Champion, if it involves a belt World Champion is gonna be in the name and that’s been since the beginning of Boxing and Wrestling, u can take it literally or not

EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. All the best team from all the best leagues, with all the best players in the world in a single competition. But the winners don't call themselves World Champions. Also, I'll make another argument. The whole claim about the NBA champions also being World Champions is that they're on paper the best team in the world. And they are, no-one denies that. But they didn't play against Euroleague champions Real Madrid, or the corresponding African, South American, Asian and Oceanian champions. Claiming the title of World Champions just because you're the best team on paper, isn't the same as actually playing and winning against those teams. Take the 2004 and 2006 US national teams for example. The 2004 team had Duncan, Iverson, a rookie LeBron and more talent, they were definitely the best team in the competition on paper. They lost to Argentina in the Semifinals. The 2006 team had LeBron, Anthony, Wade, CP3, Bosh, Howard, Joe Johnson, Elton Brand and others. Again, they were the best team on paper. The lost to Greece in the Semifinals. If we applied to those competitions the same logic that the people who say the NBA champions are World Champions, then Team USA shouldn't have played at all and automatically be given the gold medal because they were the best team on paper. But they played. And they lost. Because basketball isn't just about what's the best team on paper. If it was only about that, it would be a hell of a boring sport. And that's why you can't call yourself a World Champion if you don't play against the World.

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You what is dumb, that jealous Boi of NBA just lost. He came out dancimg, doing what we guess was a "I'm world champ", and lost..... I guess he world champion of L now, and good luck on the merchandise or deals. Pick one of other sprinters, let him humble himself

Listen I totally agree with Noah, he's competing against an international field,but the NBA nope they don't,maybe every so often,like every 4 yrs.😕

The NBA players must be very insecure, because being NBA champions seems not to be enough. They have to call themselves world champions to inflate their worth. Of course they are only fake "world champions". In reality they are champions of a national league. With the claim to world championship the NBA players are dissing all real world champions and I understand that a real world champion is irritated. Noah Lyles is a real world champion. The USA is not even the current world champion.

Nice concept but you got something wrong with your Football (Soccer) analogy. You see, apart from the top 5 leagues and their respective competitions, there is the champions league which is without doubt the biggest club competition. The champions league includes teams from not only the top 5 but several other smaller leagues (even reaching to Isreal). Yet the winners of that competition call themselves Champions of Europe. Not champions of the world.

But we're not talking about "consensus" best in the world, are we? We are talking about literally calling yourselves "World Champions". And for that, we have to follow basic textbook rules. It doesn't matter if other leagues are way behind the NBA right now, because there still exists a possibility in the future that the other leagues would catch up (idk, maybe in the next 1 year, 100 years?) That's like China claiming all the oceans around it as its territory regardless of international laws just because its neighbors are not powerful enough to stand against it yet.. Or Russia claiming Ukraine for itself. To put this in another perspective, there were times when the losing teams in NBA championships weren't even really the "2nd Place World Champions".. they were just fortunate to be in a weaker conference & reach the finals a bit easier.. Far superior teams toiled it in the grueling WC & we all know it.. lol.. so that kinda defeat the very essence of that title.

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Arguably, the ~500 best basketball players in the world play in the NBA in any given year. ~400 of these players are from the USA. FIBA World Cup features 10 of these 400 US players. In other words, FIBA excludes the vast majority of the best players in the world. Still, I think it's fine to call the FIBA champions "World Champions". I also think it's fine to call NBA champions "World Champions".

really everyone who starts to argue that the nfl is the best league by far really didnt get it from the start and should really get into what NATIONAL league means

Let's not make it complicated. NBA Champions = NBA Champions FIBA World Cup Champions = World Champions Olympic Basketball Champions = Olympic Champions There, easier, right?

Well this video looks stupid after the USA got eliminated from THE WORLD CUP 0 excuses

NBA is American. NOT "The world" And American football is played in America nobody's interested anywhere else

American exceptionalism is a big reason why many places in the world are fucked up. I don’t think it’s reasonable to just brush over it. Also, the champions league is by far the best football competition in the world. Europe has a monopoly on the best talents and they all showcase their skills in that competition. For sure the disparity between the CL and the other continental competitions are comparable to NBA and other basketball leagues around the world. The CL winners would never call themselves world champions.

Most of the best world footballer plays in European Champions League but no club ever won and claiming that their country won a world cup. Even the GOAT Messi back from retirement from Argentina NT more than once to finally win it last year. The most impactful player in modern football, Johan Cruyff, never claim he is a world champions because he isn't. Just to show how Americans view versus the rest of the world.

soccer o football is the best example..........

Sorry, your argument fails because America is simply not the world. That’s the main reality here. Furthermore, America calls its baseball champions world champs too. The so-called “World Series” is American bullshit. No one can be a real world champ without beating the rest of the world, no way to argue around that. By your argument, the winners of the Indian league in cricket is the best in the world. Your argument can only make sense to Americans. I think it was only American NBA players who disagreed with the obvious. You are also ignoring the fact that NBA players played on the teams that medaled ahead of America, which neutralizes your argument. At the very least, the NBA champs have to beat somebody outside the NBA to be “world champs” outside of America. And if the notion of world champs is only recognized in America then that also speaks for itself.

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disagree + L take (i’m 5 seconds in)

A local state, represented by a local team, playing against another local team... WORLD CHAMPIONS! 🤣

This debate is quite simply upsurd. The NBA Champions are not the World Champions. And anyone who believes that is delusional. 

 Context: I am a European and I don’t care about Basketball. This debate comes down to the difference between Clubs and Teams Representing Countries. 

 Yes the NBA might be the best Basketball League in the World. As is the UEFA Campions League in Football. Yet nobody would argue that because the best footballplayers play in the UCL the Team winning it wound be World Campions.

 A „National“ League can not grant a World Championship. END OF STORY Even the FIFA Club World Champions are not THE World Campions. Yes they are the best Club in the World yet they do not represent a Country.

 Why: A team playing in a League can arrange their players as it likes. In a World Championship a team can only consist of players from the same nationality. This difference alone should be enough to convince anyone that „A National League can not grant a World Championship“ Your argument about NBA teams wining against international teams and there by proving the WC is nonsense. These are Clubs not Teams representing Countries. I would even say that if the NBA winner where to play the World Champion and beat them they still wound not be World Campions.

 Personal opinion of how this came to be: That the Americans thought that they alone could give out a World Championship is not surprising. It fits into who they think they are in this world and how they think about the rest of us. It might even be the best to let them live in that believe and enjoy the Word Championships without them.

Some people seem to be confused when it comes to what is the best team in the world and what is a world champion. Can be the same, but doesn't have to be.

You are 100% correct that this debate is dumb. So Denver a state in America and a fan base that is only within the state is world champions. They competed against another state Miami, and the winner is supposed to be considered world champions. Are you kidding me?. I was what you did there about the soccer leagues in Europe but you left out that the top teams from those leagues compete in the European champions league and the winner don't call themselves world champions. Everyone knows that the European champions are the best in the world but they still compete against the champions from South America/Asia etc to be considered the world best league champions. You can't juat create a sports that is global and call a state or a club own by a family (Lakers) world champions.

Y'all need to see world map first before calling yourself a world champion. Delusional Americans are arrogance and ignorance.

Many NBA fans are so lost in their bubble that they do not know the difference between national leagues and world cups. 2022: Argentina -> World Champion/ Best football/soccer national team because of winning the world cup. Best Player: Messi Real Madrid -> best commercial club team in Spain, England, Europe + internationally, won all titles in real competitions ( Best Player: Benzema from France) 2023: Denver Nuggets -> best commercial club team in North America + proclaimed internationally by their own league (Best Player: Jokic from Serbia) Germany: World Champion/ Best basketball national team because of winning the world cup. Best Player: Schroeder.

3:21 That is one of the dumbest arguments i've ever listened to. Please yes, keep being complacent and because "the margin is so great" go-on and keep calling the NBA Champion Champion, World Champion please 😆 Do you know why Brazil has not won a Football World Cup in the past 21 years?🤣 Btw introduce real competition, in the form of a full relegation-system to any of the US team-sports, and just wait to see the results🤣🤣🤣 YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF TANKING ON YOUR FKN SPORTS!!! THAT'S = TO TURN BRIBERY INTO A FKN LEGAL WORD CALLED "LOBBYING"! NBA DOESN'T EVEN FOLLOW FKN FIBA RULES!🤣 what a fkn joke

Lyle is right, basketball world championship can only be happened during FIBA world cup or Olympics for that matter.

Still, champions league winners never call themselves world champions.

Champions League is the best competition in the world of football and they are "champions of Europe", nobody ever said "world champions" even that everybody will agree that the winner is the best club in the world... The real deal here is that NBA has different rules than the rest of the world. I could agree that winning the NBA makes you the best bastketball club in the world, but is still incorrect to get that banner imo, it´s arrogant... Anyway, you have a point.. who cares? i think that giving that much hate to Noah Lyles has gone too far, wasnt that big when Popovic said it..

The dominance of the UEFA Champions League in football is comparable with NBA. What's interesting to note is that, despite its prestige, the Champions League is not automatically deemed the 'World Champion.' Take, for instance, Manchester City's recent triumph in the Champions League-they rightfully hold the title of Champions League winner. However, it's important to emphasize that they are not recognized as World Champions until they secure victory in intercontinental matches. To earn the esteemed title of 'the best,' it's crucial that a competition includes participation from teams representing each continent. One could argue for a structure similar to football, where champions from every continent compete against each other. Only when the European Champions League victor emerges victorious in these intercontinental clashes can they rightfully claim the coveted title of World Champion. Until then, the label remains incomplete.

poor americans germany knocked you out

USA vs Germany (Sept. 8, 2023)

You are not a world Champion until you prove it.... Lyile did it

great vid big cheese

America just lost though

nba is full of USA states team fighting for the best state of united states/canada toronto. they cant call themselves world champ as nba champs lol

I disagree a bit with this video mainly because he doesn't mention about FIFA Club World Cup. It's an annual event participate by the champions of the champion leagues of every football association. Of course we know that Europe is a home to the best football players and no surprise also they are expected to win the FIFA Club World Cup. But there's also a few surprises where clubs from other continent won the cup like Sao Paulo beat Liverpool in 2006, and Corinthians beat Chelsea in 2012. And that's a prove why Europe has the best football league because they always won the cup. But there's no FIBA Club World Cup. So, if NBA says they are the best basketball league in the world, it is still consider a bit self proclaimed. Just to add, all those winners from the FIFA Club World Cup never claim themselves as world champion. Because by the world default (not American default), world champion is crowned through the international competitions. Not domestic. And I agree the debate is stupid. I mean, it's not even something we can question it. How dumb!!

OMG there has been many videos regarding this topic. Why did you have to make another one to spread stupidness? Do you like to look fool in front of the whole world? 1. Fact: NATIONAL Basketball Association 2. Fact: There is an actual World Championship ongoing right now, even USA participates 3. Fact: Doesn't matter that the best worldwide players play in the NBA, IT DOESNT MAKE IT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. Only americans fail to understand. 4. Fact: Havent you realized, only american born players replied to Noah? Doesnt it tell you something? There are dozens of players playing in the NBA from all over the world, and none said a single word. Doesnt it make you think? And when you finally think, dont you come to the realization that this "stupid patriotic america is number 1, we are the world" mentality has been programmed into your narrow minded american brain from a very young age? Or what else could be the reason that 7,7billion ppl understand the concept of WC, only 300million american fails to understand. :) 5. Fact: Just like Noah said, where are the flags? There aint no flags in the NBA. You sing your own anthem even tho probably 30% of the ppl in the arena are not even americans. There aint nobody represented but America. America number 1, hurrraay! :D 6. Fact: World Champions fight for their county. Your Champs fight for a private company in a National League. 7. Fact: Your comparison in the video was wrong. Ofc your american, i dont expect you to understand. But now, i will explain: As agreed football is superior in Europe compared anybody else. You should have not mentioned LaLiga or PremierLeague, you should have mentioned UEFA Champions League. Thats the league where the best clubs of the EU fight against each other. With the american mentality, i should call the Champions League winners the Wolrd Champs, as europe is the best in football, we have players from all around from the world, and literally the best clubs fight against each other. BUT I DONT CALL IT WORLD CHAMPS, NOBODY DOES. Why? Why? Why dont we call it World Champs? Whats the difference in the mentality between americans and europeans? Hmm? It comes down to what i mentioned before, you guys are programmed to think you are superior and to think you are the middle of the world (just like blacks are programmed to be a victim and pull the racist card in case of the smallest inconvenience). It also comes down to europeans being far more cultured and educated ... but lets not talk about that now. Capito????

Although Noah Lyles will get a lot of push back on his comment, I actually agree with him. I understand exactly what he is saying. The NBA Dream Team and other USA basketball teams that competed in the Olympics and won gold medals are justified in calling themselves world champions.

There is a Basketball WC and those nations and players should be called the World Champions and not the NBA.